DUmmies Deeply Saddened By Saddam's Impending Execution

(Note: Our DUFU endorsed presidential candidate, Tom Vilsack, will be appearing in Ketchum, Idaho today at Hemingway Elementary School between 4 and 5:15. If you attend his speech, please encourage Gov. Vilsack to WEAR THE BEAR. You can also visit the Tom Vilsack campaign WEBSITE and encourage him to do the same there. If Vilsack follows our advice and Wears the Bear, his campaign is sure to take off.)

This isn't really a surprise to me but the DUmmies are deeply saddened by the impending execution of Saddam Hussein as you can see in both this THREAD titled, "TV plans tasteful coverage of Saddam execution," and this THREAD titled, "God I hope that Saddam finds a way to kill himself before they hang him." Contrast these feelings of humanitarianism towards a mass murderer to the recent DUmmie INVECTIVE hurled at the recently deceased Gerald Ford. Yes, the DUmmies engage in all sorts of furty and hate directed towards Republicans such as imprisoning George Bush as a war criminal and sending him to The Hague but for a real slime like Saddam, there is only sympathy in DUmmieland. So let us now watch the DUmmies shed leftwing tears for Saddam in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, already anticipating the DUmmie outbreak of grief when Castro kicks the bucket, is in the [brackets]:

TV plans tasteful coverage of Saddam execution

[Translation: You will have to watch the actual hanging on the Web.]

NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - Television networks face a killer of a conundrum with the impending execution of Saddam Hussein, whose hanging could be videotaped and perhaps aired on Iraqi TV....

[I'll be watching but I guess it won't be on the networks since I doubt they will show the actual hanging.]

ABC and CBS said they wouldn't air the full execution if the video became available....Phil Alongi, special-events executive producer at NBC News, said there are ways the network can approach the video or photographs that will get the point across without having to be graphic.

[God forbid that we actually see a mass murderer get his just reward.]

The operative word: taste.

[The operative word: censorship.]

"We have very, very strict guidelines with how to deal with that," said Bob Murphy, senior vp at ABC News. "If there were pictures made available of the execution, they would have to be viewed by senior management before we would put them on the air, and we would make a judgment of taste and propriety of what we would show."

[Yadda Yadda Yadda. Same dopey excuses for the networks no longer showing us images of the Twin Towers collapsing from the terrorist attack.]

CNN and Fox News Channel still were discussing what they would do if the footage were made available. It also wasn't clear what the newly launched network Al-Jazeera International would do. An e-mail and phone call to the channel's Qatar headquarters weren't returned Thursday. Despite popular assumptions to the contrary, Al-Jazeera's pan-Arab channel has never shown an execution.

[Is that the same CNN that has no problem with airing terrorist videos of snipers shooting American troops?]

While video of an execution would be unprecedented in U.S. television, the war in Iraq has led to a number of judgment calls on graphic video. The U.S. military released graphic photographs of Saddam's two sons who were killed in a U.S. raid on their Mosul hideout in July 2003.

"We edited down the pictures to show only what was appropriate, what we thought was appropriate," Murphy said. "We didn't show the pictures live (when the network received them), and we made sure that they showed enough of the bodies so that it was clearly them, but we didn't dwell on it."...

[CNN thought it was appropriate to show American soldiers being shot but somehow thinks it is in poor taste to show mass murderer Saddam being executed. And now to hear from the DUmmies in the PeaNUt Gallery.]

Sick f*cks ... I guess everyone has forgotten that the propriety of Capital punishment is ITSELF questionable ..... I am supposing they have moved beyond that question .... A BUNCH of sick f*cks ...

[How much do you want to bet that the total energy this same DUmmie has spent previously condemning the crimes of Saddam Hussein is somewhere between nil and none?]

My sentiments exactly. I hope one of his jailers gives him a pill before his execution. I will take great delight in robbing the sick souls who want to see this hanging. It's like these people are wearing white sheets and hoods and standing around a tree in MS or AL in the 40' and 50's.

[Thanx for that image of poor Saddam as the innocent victim of a lynching.]

It stuns me that Americans think that this is justice

[The same DUmmies who call for Bush to be sent to The Hague to be tried as a war criminal.]

Me too. They are slow coming to the truth. This is a W execution on a foreign being. W will answer.

[That sounds like a threat, DUmmie Erika. I repeat, DUmmie Erika.]

It's only justice if Bush is hanging next to him.

[Another threat from DUmmie 6000eliot. I repeat, DUmmie 6000eliot.]

Thank You. I was just too afraid to say it myself.

[Support for a threat from DUmmie 951-Riverside. I repeat, DUmmie 951-Riverside.]

Tasteful execution. Jesus. What have we become? I have been looking for the comparison figures on how many Iraqis Saddam killed, versus how many have died in Bush's illegal war.

[Much fewer in the latter unless you believe bogus numbers which you do.]

Personally, I think they should play it live on every channel. I love the smell of justice in the morning. But then, what do I know? I'm just a crazy wingnut. By the way, great moniker, you guys. It has a kind of dramatic flair....

[Caught this post from a LOUSY FREEPER TROLL before it could be deleted and now on to God I hope that Saddam finds a way to kill himself before they hang him. ]

God I hope that Saddam finds a way to kill himself before they hang him. steal their thunder I say.

[That's what the neo-nazis were hoping for Herman Goring when he beat the Nuremburg hangman with a bit of cyanide.]

I'd rather just hope that they don't hang him.

[You prefer that they tickle Saddam for his crimes?]

I think it must help them sleep at night to pretend the thousands of murders committed in their names were based on something tangible. Christians my ass, I hate the whole lying lot of those assholes.

[Note the total LACK of condemnation for Saddam's many murderous crimes.]

I'm not into this whole hanging thing.

[Unless the condemned is an EVIL Republican.]

I would rather see Saddam live to testify in Bush's war crimes trial. I imagine this is why Saddam received such a speedy trial, sentence, rejected appeal, and execution date set before congress changes hands.

[Oh, and don't forget to pardon Saddam for his cooperation in the Bush war crimes trial at The Hague.]

This hanging is nothing more than the entire civilized world getting medieval on Saddam's ass.

[They just don't understand the modern progressive ways of Saddam.]

I can hardly think about it....discuss it... I feel like our entire society has become the mob that would sell postcards of a lynching... I feel so damned nauseated. But yes, if it comes down to it, I wish Saddam would act to "steal their thunder" too.

[Saddam, We Hardly Knew Ye.]

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DUmmies Dance On Gerald Ford's Grave

According to the DUmmies, if you are a Republican you are automatically demonic. When I heard this morning that former President Gerald Ford had passed away, I figured the DUmmies would praise Ford as a way to slam Bush. Wrong. The DUmmie HATE of all things Republicans extends even to those of the most non-threatening sort such as Gerald Ford as you can see in this crazed THREAD titled, "Stop trying to tell me Gerald Ford was a good, decent man." So let us now watch the demonic DUmmies dance on Gerald Ford's grave in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, watching DUmmies acting like DUmmies, is in the [brackets]:

Stop trying to tell me Gerald Ford was a good, decent man.

[Stop trying to tell me DUmmies are sane.]

Gerald R. Ford, the greatest enabler in American history, is being lionized tonight. I read post after post parroting all the right-wing talking points about him. Come on, you know them by heart; decent man, accidental president, ended our long national nightmare, lovable stumble bum. I'm calling bullshit.

Ford is the guy who pardoned the evil bastard Nixon (he also pardoned Tokyo Rose, for you Freeper lurkers.) Richard Fucking Milhous Nixon, for Christ's sake. The drunken, power-mad narcissist who claimed to have "a secret plan to end the Viet Nam War" and subsequently sent thousands of Americans to needless death and trauma. Does this sound familiar? How would you feel if George W. Bush were similarly pardoned by say, Chuck Hagel? It could happen.



[It could happen that DUmmie Steve_DeShazer might grow a brain but it probably won't happen.]

It's hard to see DUer's here praise Oatmeal Man as 'the last decent Republican President', 'an impeccable, honorable man', 'a simple and good man'. And on and on. Don't insult me and the other guys my age who were faced with being drafted into the military debacle of our generation by telling us that the guy who pardoned this criminal president, who escalated the war beyond all sense of proportion, "ended our long national nightmare".

[DUmmie Steve_DeShazer needs a history lesson. Vietnam peace accords signed early in 1973 BEFORE Ford became President and U.S. forces left in April 1975 early in the Ford Presidency. As to the draft, it was over by then.]

Hell, this nightmare continues today, far worse than my 1974 self could ever imagine. May I set the record straight?

[Perhaps you should set your head right first.]

First, Ford's pardon of Nixon did not 'heal the nation'. It halted any investigation of the crimes of Richard Nixon. Further, it established a precedent that was continued by George H. W. Bush, who pardoned the likes of Caspar Weinberger and described him as "true American patriot" and said clemency was granted both to spare him torment and cost of lengthy legal proceedings. Must be nice.

[And unlike the Clinton pardons at the end of his presidency, there was no remuneration in exchange.]

Second, Ford advanced the bloodthirsty careers of no less than Henry Kissinger, Richard Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld. These guys belong in a war crimes tribunal. Their boss was a good Republican? My ass.

[Dr. Buddy Rydell suggests you STOP what you are doing and sing "I Feel Pretty" as part of your Anger Management Program.]

Third, Ford gave the green light to Indonesia's illegal invasion of East Timor, resulting in up to 200,000 DEAD PEOPLE.

[He also gave the green light to numerous earthquakes. Continue...]

Fourth, the Project for a New American Century, and the resulting fall and decline of America's standing in the 21st century would never have happened without Ford's unholy deal with his evil f*cking boss (see #2.)

[P-NACing, Mr. Pinnell? P-NACing?]

I could go on, but the attention span of the Ford supporters here likely won't cover the thirty-plus years of hell and repetition of history that have resulted in PNAC, because in case you haven't noticed, ALL THESE PNAC'ers are the SAME F*CKING GUYS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATED AND PERMANENTLY DISCREDITED had Mr. Nice Guy Gerry not PARDONED Richard Milhous Nixon for all his crimes, which today remain uninvestigated.

[PNAC!!! SLOOOOOOWLY I TURNED... STEP BY STEP...]

The 'liberal media' will go all-out in the coming days rewriting history to make Gerald Ford out as the second coming of Jesus. As far as I'm concerned, Gerald Ford is the first coming of the ridiculous notion that America could dominate the world at gunpoint.

[Oh yeah. We all remember how Ford's Wehrmacht rolled over Saigon and Angola.]

Fu*ck that.

[Open wide for the powerful meds and let us now hear from your equally medicated fellow DUmmies...]

Amen to that. To find a Republican president who was a decent man you'd have to go back a lot further.

[Definitely before warmonger Eisenhower.]

Ford's role in covering up the crimes of that era gave those evil monsters more time. And what we see today is his legacy. The same players, the same goals, and the same results. May he rot in hell for his cowardice and complicity.

[Your mind has already rotted quite nicely right here.]

Bullshit indeed. And dangerous, destructive bullshit at that. The GOP-owned-and-operated corporate media talking heads and newspaper writers will be carrying on and on. It's ridiculous to add still MORE bullshit to their output.

[The biggest BS is your notion of a "GOP-owned-and-operated corporate media."]

It PISSES me off so much. To know that Tricky Dick, an evil bastard, got pardoned... damn, WTF?

[Somehow I have the feeling that this DUmmie will be deeply saddened by the execution of Saddam Hussein.]

F*ck the rivisionists! The guy was an EVIL MOTHERF*CKER who sent many innocent Americans to death for war profits. F*ck him and the bunch who rode in with him. 'm glad he is dead! I only wish he suffered more!

[This crazed DUmmie will definitely be mourning the death of Saddam Hussein. Bookmark the name of DUmmie tmfun so we can check back in a few weeks.]

I will not be mourning this man.Wonder what it costs we, the people, to bury one of these men?

[It already cost you all of your sanity.]

You make a good argument to support John Dean's reasons why those surrounding Bush should get impeached, so they can't grow up to be just like him. Let's purge them out now while we can.

[A DUmmie Chekhist urging on the Purge Trials.]

I remember all that shit goin' down, and I can hold a grudge for decades.

[Keep holding that grudge so as to maintain your current level of insanity.]

But Tokyo Rose was actually innocent. NPR did a long piece about it.

[Who will pardon all the current journalists supporting the terrorists?]

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DUmmie FUnnies Endorses Presidential Candidate

After deep discussions, the editorial board of the DUmmie FUnnies consisting of myself and LI'L BEAVER has decided to endorse a presidential candidate. The candidate was NOT selected because of our agreement with him on policy issues. In fact, there is little upon which we agree politically with this liberal candidate. Instead, our primary consideration was how the endorsement would HELP the DUmmie FUnnies. Therefore this automatically eliminated a host of candidates such as Hillary, Obama, Kerry, and Edwards. See, they already have sufficient support that any endorsement by the DUmmie FUnnies would be a mere drop in the bucket and we would get NO credit for their rise in the polls. Many have thought that the DUmmie FUnnies would endorse Dennis Kucinich. Wrong again. Kookcinich has a small but strong ultra-liberal base of support so an endorsement by the DUmmie FUnnies would be rejected plus given no credit for any rise in the popularity of the Evil Elf.

This leaves candidates of the bottom tier of the Democrats. Candidates whose ratings are so low that the DUmmie FUnnies could receive credit for any increase in their currently miniscule ratings. This would include candidates such as Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, and Bill Richardson. However, even these candidates are still too well known for the DUmmie FUnnies to really get credit for helping.

This leaves one standout candidate whose poll numbers are currently so low that he does not even qualify to be in the bottom tier of candidates. In fact he is doing so poorly in the polls that he is now beneath the bottom of the bottom tier of candidates. And this candidate, who is doing poorly enough to earn the DUmmie FUnnies endorsement is none other than...Tom Vilsack!

Not only does the DUmmie FUnnies endorse (for Democrat nomination only) Tom Vilsack but we have a plan on how he can drastically increase his poll numbers. This plan came to me whenever I thought about Governor Vilsack. And the very few times I did think about him I always conjured up the image of him wearing the Pooh Bear on his head. I admit that at first I MOCKED Governor Vilsack for daring to wear that Pooh Bear in public. However, the more I thought about it, the more I admired him for having the GUTS and confidence in himself to wear it. And this led me to the KEY to how Tom Vilsack can rise in the polls---Wear the Pooh Bear (and other furry critters) whenever he makes a speech in public. Yes, a lot of folks will laugh at him at first as I did but guess what? He will get a lot of ATTENTION as a result. The first result of wearing furry critters when making speeches is that those speeches will be uploaded and WATCHED on YouTube. As it stands now, folks just won't watch Vilsack make his speeches in any great numbers. However, wear the bear and Vilsack would become an instant HIT on YouTube.

Yes, yes. I know that Vilsack and would be initially reluctant to subject himself to possible ridicule. Well, let me introduce everybody to another candidate who took a chance at being ridiculed. He was a fairly unknown state legislator who wanted to become a United States Senator from a large state. He came up with the idea of walking around the periphery of the state to raise public awareness of himself. At first his walking "stunt" was written off by the pundits as just a silly gimmick. However, a funny thing happened. The more this candidate did his walking tour campaign, the more press coverage he received. And the more press he recieved the more folks wanted to meet him on his walking tour of the state. Eventually, his name became so familiar to the state's voters due to his walking "stunt" that he was elected as U.S. Senator. His name, if you haven't guessed yet, was Walkin' Lawton Chiles.

I am therefore proposing that Governor Vilsack consider using the Pooh Bear that he has already worn and use it again and again (along with other furry critter dolls) in his campaign. Speak about war, economy, immigration, health, and a whole host of other issues and few will pay attention. However speak on the same issues wearing a furry critter on your head, Governor Vilsack, and MANY will watch. I guarantee it.

Prior to making this endorsement I sort of test marketed the name of Vilsack by asking about 3 dozen people if they had ever heard that name. With one exception none of them had heard of Vilsack. And the one exception was a woman who claimed that she had a jar of pickles by that name in her refrigerator.

Tom Vilsack, your primary opponents aren't Hillary or Obama or Edwards or Kerry or a whole host of other candidates. Your REAL opponents are the myriad of products being pitched constantly to enter the attention span of the average person. Those are your real opponents that daily assault people via ads and commercials. Kentucky Fried Chicken, Apocalypto, Playstation 3, Caribbean Cruises, Verizon phone plans, K-Mart, FAO Schwarz, Nike, Delta Sky Miles, and, yes, Vlasic Pickles. The only way you can break through this competition to claim a piece of the limited attention span of the voters is to do something drastic. And this something is what I have suggested---WEAR THE BEAR!

Now since the DUmmie FUnnies is known as an "vicious rightwing blog" why should you, a Democrat candidate, take advice from me? Simple. The better you do in the polls from using our suggestion, the better it is for the DUmmie FUnnies since we gave you the idea. I see this as an ideal win/win situation. The better you do in the polls, the better the DUmmie FUnnies does.

Just so you know I am not a complete crackpot, I do have a history of giving some very successful advice to one of the biggest companies in the world. PayPal. It happened in January 2000. Amazingly, PayPal at that time was merely oriented towards using its service primarily as a way to pay for restaurant bills via PDA devices in which a customer with a Palm Pilot would "beam" the payment to the Palm Pilot of the restaurant via PayPal. Very few people were using PayPal at that time because of this proposed limited use. Since I had a few items for sale on eBay, I did a search and discovered that only about a dozen auctions at that time were using PayPal. I thought this service would be perfect for buying and selling on eBay so I e-mailed PayPal with my idea. Shortly afterwards, I called up PayPal and pitched my idea about using PayPal auction banners to JACK SELBY who was then their Director of Marketing. After listening to my overenthusiastic pitch about the use of PayPal auction banners for eBay, Mr. Selby politely thanked me. I thought it was just a polite brushoff and so much for another one of my "crazy" ideas. However, I just couldn't let go so several days later I again called Jack Selby and told him that even though I might have come across as a nutcase, I still thought my idea had merit. At that point, Mr. Selby stopped me and told me he loved the idea and that PayPal had already instituted it. I couldn't believe it but it was true. PayPal used an idea proposed by YOURS TRULY and within a few months grew to such an extent as a result that it went from being used just on about a dozen eBay auctions to several hundred thousand auctions. So even though my idea about wearing the bear might seem crazy now, there is a method to my madness as you can see from the PayPal example.

I am therefore now urging that my DUmmie FUnnies readers visit your the Tom Vilsack campaign WEBSITE and express their support for the "Wear The Bear" plan. I will also be publishing in future editions of the DUmmie FUnnies, all the campaign appearances of Tom Vilsack so the DUmmie FUnnies fans can show up and give you their polite approval and encouragement to "WEAR THE BEAR!"

I understand, governor, your initial reaction of reluctance to accept this idea but when your poll numbers remain stagnant, you might want to reconsider. Wear The Bear and you will become an instant HIT on YouTube and your campaign will benefit. Don't worry about people laughing at you. When your poll numbers rise precipitously, people will be laughing WITH you.

This is my Christmas gift to you, Governor Vilsack. Even though I don't support your political views, I have presented you with what I believe will be an excellent method to move UP in the polls. And now, this special Presidential Campaign endorsement of the DUmmie FUnnies will finish up in its traditional manner. I will channel a leftwing skeptic who will question, in Bolshevik Red, the motivations of your humble correspondent whose response can be seen in the [brackets]:

Admit it. You only want Tom Vilsack to wear a Pooh Bear in public so he will look foolish.

[Vilsack has ALREADY worn that Pooh Bear in public. The only castigation he got for that was from me in a DUmmie FUnnies EDITION. The strange thing is, that despite my initial scorn, that image has been seared, seared into my mind whenever I think about Vilsack. I believe this is the way for Vilsack's named to be seared into a lot of other minds.]

You just want to turn Vilsack into a laughingstock in order to ruin his campaign.

[Your critique might have some validity if Vilsack were currently riding high in the polls. As it is, Vilsack has no where to go but up. People will laugh WITH Tom Vilsack when it turns out that wearing the bear works.]

You don't even agree with him politically so why should we believe anything you propose?

[I said I support him for the Democrat nomination. Since someone has to win that nomination, it might as well be someone who wins it as a result of advice from the DUmmie FUnnies. Good for Vilsack, good for us. Win/Win.]

You are just proposing a cheap publicity stunt.

[A "cheap publicity stunt" is what got Lawton Chiles elected a U.S. Senator from Florida in 1971. Oh, and Governor Vilsack can also wear mascot critters from the areas he is campaigning in. A Panther when in North Carolina or a Dolphin in South Florida. It wouldn't surprise me if kids drag their parents to his speeches just to watch the candidate wear an animal hat.]

Wouldn't YOU feel foolish if Tom Vilsack actually did win the nomination as the result of your suggestion?

[Actually I would feel GREAT. The DUmmie FUnnies would receive enormous acclaim for showing a fairly unknown candidate the method to win the Democrat nomination. As I stated before, someone is going to win that nomination and it might as well be someone that the DUmmie FUnnies gains the credit for. Win/Win.]

So you will support Tom Vilsack in the general election?

[Absolutely not. The support of the DUmmie FUnnies only runs up to the nomination. At that point, I would oppose Vilsack on political grounds although I would hope we would remain friends.]

And what if by some miracle Vilsack wins the nomination and the election as a result of your Animal Hat suggestion?

[Any Republican who loses to Tom Vilsack deserves to lose. Yeah, I would feel lousy about inadvertently making a Democrat president but the upside would be the DUmmie FUnnies (along with Vilsack) will come to the attention of the general public.]

Ha! Ha! So the joke would be on you if Tom Vilsack is elected president.

[I'll take that chance. And more reason for Vilsack to take the chance on wearing the Pooh Bear. Don't wear it and he is fated to remain just another in long line of obscure candidates. Wear it and Vilsack will instantly jump to the forefront of attention. And he shouldn't worry about being laughed at. He who laughs last, laughs best.]

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When Steve Becomes Stephanie

Imagine you are at your place of employment and one day your co-worker, Steve, arrives dressed up as a woman called Stephanie. The normal reaction would be one of shock and embarrassment. In fact, if you didn't react this way, there would be something wrong with you. Well, a DUmmie did react this way and now feels she has to apologize to the world for her NORMAL reaction in this THREAD titled, "My most profound apologies to gay, transexual, transgender DUers." So let us now watch the DUmmies wrestle over their crossdressing feelings in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, still chuckling over how Richard Dawkins fell for Mr. Garrison in South Park, is in the [brackets]:

My most profound apologies to gay, transexual, transgender DUers

[For having a NORMAL reaction when a co-worker shows up at work with a changed sex.]

First off, forgive me if I use all the wrong words here. This is all new to me.

[You are forgiven DUmmie Rosemary2205. Continue with your comedy act...]

Today my workmate Steve came in dressed as a woman. I would like to report that except for a little 5:00 shadow he is a stunningly beautiful woman. But of course, it's a shock at first. What does one say, or do. Do I just ignore and call him Steve? We are "sortof" friends and tell each other a bit of personal information but this was totally unexpected. My prior expectation was that he is openly gay.

[What a shock. Before you thought he was merely gay. Now you find out he is a different sex. Continue...]

Appearantly our boss knew about this ahead. The boss came by and referred to Steve as Stephanie. My brain was about to explode. An hour ago Steve sit's with me in the cafeteria and tells me he's part male part female. He has female genitalia and a uterus. Well I don't want to get too graphic here...... the pain and agony he shared with me were astounding.

[So was this due to a sex change operation? You aren't being very helpful here.]

But here's the deal. I've always been on the fence about whether homosexuality, or transsexual, or bisexual or any of those "unnormal" things is chosen or genetic. Quite frankly it doesn't matter to me. Consenting adults don't need MY approval that's for darn sure. IMHO even if they chose it then who the heck cares. And quite frankly I've given the anti-gay people a wave off as being unbalanced nuts.

[While Steve/Stephanie is a balanced nut.]

But the standard line in the anti-gay community is "they chose it so they can unchoose it". Well, how in sam hell does someone choose IN THE WOMB? How can you tell a person like this that "God made a mistake" -- NO ONE IS A "MISTAKE". For the first time in my life I am seeing the phenomenal pain that we are inflicting on people with all the "defense of marriage" business. It's NOT harmless. People are committing suicide even because of the message our society is giving them.

[Maybe Steve/Stephanie should be a keynote speaker at the 2008 Democrat Convention.]

No one should go through life feeling they are nothing but a carnival side show. Everyone, EVERYONE deserves to have a sense of acceptance and love, no matter what "deformity" they are born with.

[The Elephant Man/Woman.]

I want to apologize. I did already to Steve. But also to the world at large. For my failure to stand up to these bullies. These disgusting bullies in America who are tearing apart people's lives with their anti-gay agenda. I will never ever wave them off as harmless assholes again.

[It's STEPHANIE you insensitive lout! And now to hear from the rest of your fellow DUmmies...]

That's a nice post. I agree with the other poster that you don't have to apologize, though. Continuing to be a an office friend to Stephanie, and using the name and identity that she requests that you use, is a wonderful way to put your beliefs into practice.

[Except that Rosemary2205 needs to apologive for calling Stephanie Steve. That was really insensitive.]

You are right. I need to refer to "her" as Stephanie even away from "her". I hope eventually in my head it's not "she" and "her" but just plain she and her. That might take some time though.

[Thank you for that insight, "Rosemary2205."]

God is love. It is probably hard for him also when those ignorant people rant "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve"

[Or Adam and Stephanie.]

No apology needed. I would have thought he would have prepared y'all other than to just come in dressed as Stephanie all of a sudden, but what do I know.

[A phone call would have been helpful. Kind of insensitive for Steve not to call up his co-workers and let them know in advance that he will be showing up as Stephanie.]

I am a gay man, who first "came out" 15 years ago. I knew I "preferred men" long before this time, but basically remained celibate until the age of 28. I remember the first time I went to a gay bar, I parked 1/2 mile away, walked there, and had to wait 5 minutes for the streets to clear before I dashed in. Absolute paranoia. When I got in, one of the first folks I spoke to was Kenny, who everyone referred to as Julie. He was quite effeminate. My initial reaction to Julie was discomfort, I had a problem with the "It's so GORGEOUS" and other gay mannerisms. As time went on, I got to know Julie much better as a person, he was one of the warmest and most decent people I ever met. We all work at overcoming our pre-conceived notions and baser instincts.

[I thought everyone referred to Kenny as Keisha but what do I know.]

It sounds by your post like this person is intersex...

[Is that beyond metrosex?]

What is also not mentioned a lot is women get to cross dress all the time and no one says anything. Women wear jeans and cowboy boots but God forbid a man wears a dress. I remember some friend joking with me about how I throw a ball like a boy and how I can punch, (I've had a few fights but that is behind me) like a man. It made me feel good. To switch that around would be an insult to many men.

[It's a woman's world.]

I found out about this marvelous support organization for
intersexuals ... (during my work with PFLAG)...

[We'll PFLAG your intersexual comment for future reference.]

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"So my new book is now available at Amazon"---Pitt

What a day it has been for William Rivers Pitt. First he wins FIRST PLACE in the DUmmie Of The Year AWARD and then he announces the publication of his book (co-authored with Cindy Sheehan, not the child molester this time) as you can see in his THREAD titled, "So my new book is now available at Amazon." The problem for Pitt (in addition to the fact that his book has almost no sales) is that it is also being FReeped on Amazon as you can see in this related DUmmie THREAD titled, "Help William Pitt's rating on Amazon!" So let us now watch the DUmmie Of The Year boast about his non-selling book in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, congratulating the Most Inept Press Secretary In The History Of All The Known Universes on his big win today, is in the [brackets]:

So my new book is now available at Amazon

[And being FReeped at Amazon.]

Forgive the cheeser self-promotion, but I'm thinking this will serve as a great gift for any GOP/fundy/uninformed relative you have to see come Christmas.

[It will make for a great paperweight.]

House of Ill Repute: Reflections on War, Lies, and America's Ravaged Reputation

[Speaking of Ravaged Reputation, how is that Karl Rove indictment scoop of yours going, Will?]

Book Description

The presidency of George W. Bush promised to restore integrity to the White House, but instead it has been plagued by scandal. With his strong voice and biting humor, William Rivers Pitt guides readers through a jaw-dropping series of presidential blunders. In this collection of articles that first appeared on truthout.org, he dissects the entire war on Iraq, including the relentless push toward war, the missing weapons of mass destruction, the Halliburton contracting scandals, sectarian violence, and the possibility of a regional conflagration. Others pieces tackle the outing of Valerie Plame, the NSA’s warrantless wiretaps, the Abramoff scandal, Lewis Libby’s indictment, and the incompetent response to Hurricane Katrina. Several essays focus on Cindy Sheehan and other citizen activists. For anyone who suspects the Bush administration of playing fast and loose with the facts, William Rivers Pitt provides a welcome voice of truth, untainted by corporate ownership.

[Lewis Libby's indictment? What about Karl Rove's indictment last May 12?]

LINK

Thanks WIll and Congratulations on your book. Hope it sells well.

[It's expected to sell into the double digits by New Years Day.]

Holding out for my autographed copy.

[Pitt will also autograph your copy of Karl Rove's indictment papers.]

That depends William, is it hard cover or soft cover?

[Vanity publishing is always cheaper when you do it soft.]

Soft

[Thanx for the prompt answer, Will.]

Will there be autographed copies available anywhere?

[When Will Pitt autographs a book, its value on eBay drops to less than zero.]

People have seen what you've signed in other books and are promptly confused.

[Wow! Even Pitt's signature is confusing. It matches the rest of his overlong writing.]

Is it available in a real book store? I hate paying shipping costs for books.

[Only the Bukowski's Restroom Bookstore will be carrying it.]

After Christmas, I think. Some places may have it in already, but haven't put it out yet. You can ask at your store, but I'm not sure.

[But I'm sure, Will. Forget about seeing it in any REAL bookstore.]

What a wonderful gift for only $10.17! I'll process the order later today.

[Wait a couple of weeks and you can have it for 99 cents.]

No nasty RW reviews yet

[Have patience. Hee! Hee!]

There's a review now. Called us moonbats. How could he have read it ?

[At least he didn't call you DUmmies.]

Both freeper reviews have been scrubbed

[Don't worry. More will pop up.]

Well, I have to assume that Seattle is on the menu for the book tour at some point.

[When will you be in Ft. Lauderdale, Pitt, for your gigantic book tour?]

Just ordered it! Now come down to Florida and autograph it!

[Come on down, Pitt, so you can autograph my copy of Karl Rove's indictment.]

Taking a truthout sabbatical and writing another book.

[Taking a sabbatical from Jason Leopold and the fashion photographer?]

Barnes and Noble has it on their site, but are listing it as by Cindy Sheehan. Weird.

[BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Pied Piper Pitt can't even get credit for his own book. However, now we know why Pitt was shmoozing Cindy in the Texas ditch. And now on to Help William Pitt's rating on Amazon!]

Help William Pitt's rating on Amazon!

[He's being FReeeeeeeeped!!!]

A freeper idiot has already posted the following on Amazon:

Nothing but a Moonbat hit piece. All you need to know is this guy is a regular over on the Democrat Underground... moonbat central!

[aka DUmmie central.]

It freaks out an author or publisher to be slammed like that.

[It might even drive Pitt to drink.]

There's a new Freeper review up

This guy wouldn't know the TRUTH if it was OUT behind him. Sorry I can't bear to read any more leftist drivel from this biased and extremely fictional writer. The writer is trying to distort truth and history all in one fantasy book. I'm giving this trash a thumb's down.

[At least Pitt was able to determine the exact moment the Third American Empire was born at the 1980 Winter Olympic Games.]

Thanks guys. I actually hope they keep the Freep reviews. Pretty much the best advertisement for the book. The Freep reviews for the Iraq book were the highest of comedy, especially after a couple of years passed and the WMD never materialized. They wound up getting deleted, sadly.

[Did Karl Rove's indictment ever materialize, Will?]

Is ANYone else tired of the word "Moonbat"?
Can they at least be creative in their burns, as highly incapable as they are of it? They use that same word over and over and over and over again. PLEASE, slappy. ENOUGH with the "moonbat", "Lib", "Defeatocrats", "DUmmies"; PLEASE leave the funny to us, because you schmucks are so bad at it.

[Hmmm.... "DUmmies" quickly followed by "funny." I think this DUmmie is sending us a secret code signal.]

There's another freepie review up...

Pitt's mephitic prose and principled stand against the powers of ratiocination make this book impossible to put down. Even if you're in an alcohol-induced stupor, or just slow-witted, you'll finish in 24 business hours or less.

[LOL! That review is my fave!]

And another! We get rid of a negative review, and two other
ugly ones replace it!

I am surprised that William Rivers Pitt sobered up long enough to write a book.Perhaps he was able to stay booze free for 24 business hours and managed to get his book written in that time. Mr. Pitt is also a member in good standing at the internets biggest open sewer, Democratic Underground (not as good as he was before the Rove thing.even MOONBATS don't forget some things) Waste your money if you want.....

[Another HILARIOUS review! Pitt can't escape from the Indictment That Dare Not Speak Its Name.]

Theres a shitload of freeper reviews now calling William Pitt a "drunkard" and a "moonbat"

[At least the descriptions of Pitt are accurate.]

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DUmmies Still Praying For Fitzmas

MERRY FITZMAS!!! That's right. Fitzmas may be just around the corner. At least that's what many DUmmies believe. Despite having been burned many times waiting for the arrival of Fitzmas, many DUmmies still believe Fitzmas could be coming soon as you can see in this THREAD titled, "PREDICTION: Cheney Will Perjure himself during testimony." How about this for a more accurate title, "PREDICTION: DUmmies Will Continue To Await The Arrival Of The Great Pumpkin." So let us now watch the DUmmies once again await the arrival of their long delayed Fitzmas in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, wondering if that was the Great Pumpkin or the Tooth Fairy that he just spotted, is in the [brackets]:

PREDICTION: Cheney Will Perjure himself during testimony

[PREDICTION: The Great Pumpkin Arrives At Midnight.]

And Fitzgerald is ready for it. Rove and Scooter have cut deals to take down Cheney. When he does, he'll be forced to resign and then he'll be indicted.

[The impeachment wish scenario. Cheney won't even have to be impeached since he will split first.]

Hmm ... interesting possibility. And investigations would hopefully get RatBastard to crack ...

[And if that doesn't work, they can waterboard him.]

If his lips move, he's lying. That's a proven fact.

[An accurate appraisal of Bill Clinton.]

YES! Oh please please please let this be true!

[Oh please please please give us our long delayed Fitzmas.]

Rove and Cheney have cut deals with Fitzgerald? Gut? Clues?

[Fantasy?]

Rove was going to be indicted. Truthout was not the only one who thought this. Why wasn't he? Because he cut a deal. Scooter, if he has half a brain, would not rely on Cheney's testimony for his defense. But it is the DEFENSE that is calling Cheney, not the Prosecution. The only way they would do this is to set Cheney up for a fall. All Clues and Guts, no facts, just supposition.

[Just fantasy.]

oh jeez. not more "fitzmas" nonsense . . .

[Killjoy! Fitzmas fantasies are FUn to watch!]

It's a perfect setup for the defense to call him and not the prosecution. If the prosecution was calling him, Cheney would be defensive. Cheney won't be prepared for a betrayal from the defense.

[And you won't be prepared for another ruined Fitzmas.]

Those that gave up on Fitz will see for themselves that, this guy is no push over, and the dirt we all knew was there....is there.Cheney will be gone by the end of January! Why do you think McCain has been sucking ass so hard here lately ? He really believes the Senate will confirm him...and they just may.

[And won't Kerry be inaugurated as president on Jan. 20?]

Cheney would resign, then Bush would resign or be impeached.

[All by the end of January.]

What's the old saying? Don't count your chickens before their hatched?

[aka Freudenschade.]

Dick Cheney will "have a fatal heart attack" and hang out with Ken Lay in the South Pacific before he lets himself get indicted.

[They will be joining Judge Crater in the South Pacific.]

We're gionna wash that man right out of our hair.

[I think that is one South Pacific song not yet parodied by a certain St. Louis songmeister.]

Seriously, to see Cheney publicly exposed under oath would be orgasmic.

[Is that you, ben burch?]

And if he doesn't perjure himself on the Plame affair he will do so in the Nigerian bribery scandal.Or on the Hal/KBR Iraq fiasco.or on a multitude of issues. One way or another he IS GOING DOWN baby!!

[Speaking of the Nigerian bribery scandal, you are just ten dollars away from receiving a half million dollars from my uncle, Charles B. Obobwanago, who had to flee Nigeria because of that scandal. Please send us your bank account information so we may deposit that amount in your account.]

The chances of him actually committing perjury are very slight indeed, and the chances of him being convicted of it are negligable.

[Your Kewpie Doll is in the mail.]

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"MSNBC's Olbermann Seeks Big Raise"

The DUmmies are not shy about attacking the rich EXCEPT when one of their own strives to become wealthy beyond what he deserves. Such is the case with Keith Olbermann who is now demanding a fourfold salary increase. As a strong liberal, Keith does not realize that there is a correlation between ratings and revenue. And since the ratings for MSNBC are pathetically low, then revenue must also be in the dumps. However, despite that economic reality, Olbermann is demanding that his salary be increased from a million bucks per year to FOUR million. The problem is that his show does not draw the numbers that would justify such a grotesque salary increase. Keith should consider himself lucky that he is even making a million dollars per year from the troubled MSNBC and keep a candle lit while praying that he does not get fired for earning his current inflated salary. Of course, MSNBC is NOT going to fork over anywhere near four million big ones to Olbermann. For one thing, he is just not worth it. On top of that, to pay Olbermann a big increase would mean that Chris Matthews would demand a similar increase which is something MSNBC wants to avoid. You can find the evasions of economic broadcasting facts on this DUmmie THREAD titled, "MSNBC's Olbermann Seeks Big Raise." So let us now watch the DUmmies demand that rich liberal Keith Olbermann become even richer in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that a lot of websites get a lot more readers daily than MSNBC gets viewers, is in the [brackets]:

MSNBC's Olbermann Seeks Big Raise

[Keith Olbermann desperately wants to become a rich fatcat despite ratings that don't justify it.]

Olbermann and MSNBC are knocking heads over a new contract. The controversial host of Countdown With Keith Olbermann is said to be seeking "north of $4 million" a year, according to an industry source, to re-up on his pact that comes due in April. That would represent roughly a four-fold increase over his current deal, believed to be in the $1 million-per-year range.

[I would love to be in that room when the MSNBC execs tell Keith that he is just not worth it.]

Olbermann is looking for such a big pay raise because Countdown has been on fire, playing a big part in the current audience uptick at the network. In the key 25-54 demo, its ratings are up 25% year-to-date and an astounding 75% so far in the fourth quarter.

[Increasing your ratings a bit from pathetically low is no great task. Most of that increase was due to interest in the mid-term elections which does not exist now.]

But MSNBC brass may have their hands tied on how much they can pony up for Olbermann. MSNBC parent NBC Universal has mandated $750 million worth of budget cuts across all divisions, and this is hardly a politic time to hand out a gargantuan raise. Meanwhile, CNN may have interest. (snip)

[Great timing on Olbermann's part. Big budget cuts and Keith chooses now to make a demand for a grotesque salary increase not supported by economic facts.]

He deserves the raise. I think the request for $4 million is just something Keith's agent is putting out there as a starting point to negotiate. I'm sure he won't get that much, but he'll probably get a raise.

[Yeah, they'll give Keith a raise of 10 bucks per year.]

Wow, Olbie on CNN could be huge for his career. Moreover I could see the other big two picking him up as well. MSNBC is ok, but it sure is'nt Prime Time in the business news. If CNN does pick him up I hope they keep to the same format that has made him successful. Not to mention his crack team.

[Keith would bomb at CNN as well since that network is also suffering lousy ratings.]

Not a good sign. Usually, such moves mean one of three things:

1. The person seeking the enormous salary is sick of their job and only a huge salary will keep them in place.
2. The person seeking the raise is suffering from massive ego inflation.
3. The market would support such a salary -- it's a fair request or he's been offered another job.

[The the winner is...NUMBER TWO!!!]


I don't see Olbermann getting $4,000,000 anywhere else, so I don't think option 3 is the ticket. Although, anything is possible -- look at Limbaugh's salary!

[Limbaugh OWNS his show. He salary is entirely net revenue generated from his HUGE ratings. Keith would have to take a salary CUT based on that formula.]

Since the source appears to be MSNBC it may indicate that General Electric wants to get rid of Olbermann and replace him with a rightwinger.

[Which means a neutered MSNBC Republican like Joe Scarborough or Tucker Carlson.]

Wasn't There a Rumor, 'bout a Month Ago. That his show was going to be bumped over to CNBC?

[That's like going from bad to worse.]

One would hope that if Keith is truly a champion for progressive ideals, he may have a problem making 100x what his camera men or researchers or assistant to the junior writers are making. And that he'll either donate money to worthy causes or forego some of his obscene pay to the working families of those who create much of the content for his show.

[Keith would keep most of his obscene pay. Liberals are exempt from those attacks on greedy rich folks.]

people on the left better have money to do battle with the
parasites on the right.

[Great justification for Keith's inflated salary demands. I can just picture Keith sipping on a thousand dollar bottle of cognac at an exclusive NY restaurant proclaiming he is in the middle of doing battle with the parasites on the right.]

They are shedding $750 million costs (which means people), and Olberman is going going to get a 300% raise! $3 million dollars. That could cost 100+ low-end workers their jobs at MSNBC. Does Olberman not see this, or not care?

[Both.]

Couric making 13 mill. NBC supposedly offered her 20 to stay but she took a 13 mill offer from CBS to do anchoring which is what she was making at NBC ever since 2001.

[DUmbest media move ever.]

They better give it to him too!

[A DUmmie makes a threat on behalf of Olbermann's inflated salary demand.]

I'm still not convinced that he's really "speaking his mind". Some of his speeches seemed like ratings grabs to me. But, that is just my opinion. I hope I'm wrong because I really enjoyed watching him in the runup to the election.
But if you have a big contract negotiation coming up and there's an election and you sense you can make ratings by pandering to the ticked off and motivated side.....you might do some things to get said ratings.

[The key word here is "pandering."]

ALL HaiL Keith O~~ I love, love, LOVEEEEEEE Keith. He, along with Stewart, Colbert, Wes Clark, Mike Malloy, Max Cleland, (to name a few) ARE MY HEROES!!! Give them the reins in their appropriate venues and let them HEAL the NATION!! It's so broken, lame, dirty and sad that it will take a whole TEAM of specialists to repair it!! I am POSITIVE they deserve what EVER money is available and I'm sure they will ALL give their share in charities or donations. For they speak for ME and I am a giving soul that cares about this country (has served) and lived long enough to spot the real thing when it's in front of me! Not that any of them couldn't FALL short on an occasion as they are all HUmans! I'd forgive them a moments greed, vanity, what ever. I'm also SOOOO proud of the DEMOCRATS and us BLOGGERS!! WE deserve an accolade or two as well! CHEERS~

[Some input from the mindless groupie contingent whose sarcasm makes me suspect she is really a LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]

If I couldn't give him all four mill, I'd find a way to sweeten everything else.

[Give him free donuts.]

One thing they have to do is start getting better advertisers for his show and Tweety's. Not everyone watching MSNBC is 68 years old in need of knee replacements and Medicare prescription plans. It's their own fault if they are not getting top dollar for ads for his audience, which is far younger than most cable news audiences.

[A DUmmie gives a slight nod to economic reality. The advertisers aren't there because the ratings aren't there.]

I say give it too him

[The shove out the MSNBC door?]

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"Am I to discount everything TruthOut has ever written because of one incident?"

So they made just one tiny mistake (that they never apologized for). DUmmie trumad now wants to know in this THREAD, "Am I to discount everything TruthOut has ever written because of one incident?" He is referring, of course, to the Non-indictment that Dares Not Speak It's Name, namely the Non-indictment of Karl Rove last May 12 despite TruthOut staking its reputation on that "fact." Also putting themselves on the line were the Truthout publisher and fashion photographer, Marc Ash, star reporter Jason Leopold (pictured above) who appears in this thread to face the music, and Truthout editor, William Rivers Pitt, who is conspicuous, as ever, by his absence whenever the subject of the Rove non-indictment comes up. So let us now watch the DUmmies question the credibility of TruthOut in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that Jason Leopold and Pied Piper Pitt both share the same fishbelly white pallid skin tone, is in the [brackets]:

Am I to discount everything TruthOut has ever written because of one incident?

[Just ONE incident?]

I don't know.... I've read TruthOut almost since it's inception. I've always found it a great source of political information and it seems to me that they've had a flawless reputation as a go-to accurate source.

[As flawless and go-to accurate as Dan Rather.]

BUT then came the Rove indictment story. I honestly can't tell you what was told to the Editors of TruthOut or to Jason Leopold and I can betcha a majority of those who offer up negative posts about TruthOut have no idea as well. Did they flat out make it up? I doubt it. Does Will Pitt come across as a liar? I don't think so and why would he lie?

[Will Pitt doesn't come across as anything lately because he is always hiding under a Bukowski's table whenever the subject of the Karl Rove non-indictment comes up.]

Did they handle the aftermath of the botched story as well as they should have? Me-thinks not really. If they would have come out with one explanation and said they stick by their sources, I think things would have blown over much quicker. Instead, they made it bigger with some comments that I'm sure they regret. Hey--- they're an on-line pub with not much experience with a major-size backlash like this.

[Hey! They were just "ahead of the news cycle." When the news cycle finally catches up to them, Karl Rove WILL have been indicted last May 12.]

So here's the thing--- If I were to write a pro and con list about TruthOut, it looks like the Pros out- number the cons 10 to 1. Or am I missing something?

[Reality. And now on to the other DUmmie comments...]

That sounds right, to me. And I still doubt that we know the full story on the Rove indictment and/or Leopold's reporting of it.

[The full story of what really happened will be revealed in just 24 business hours.]

I agree with that.... methinks there is more to it then we know. However, I do think Leopold should out that source......

[Come on Jason. Lay off the Lithium treatment just long enough to out Sonny Crockett as your source.]

Leopold and TruthOut are not the first to ever be burned by a source.

[And TruthOut wasn't the first rag to be burned by Jason Leopold, a self-confessed liar, drug addict, and crook.]

True, they may have gotten a bit ahead of themselves.

[The correct term is they "got ahead of the news cycle."]

Leopold said that if his source was wrong he would out that source. The source was wrong. Leopold did not out him. As far as I'm concerned Leopold is just a showboater who likes attention and until he outs the source I can never take him seriously as a journalist.

[Will Pitt still has unquestioning faith in Leopold.]

I just don't understand why TO didn't give a solid, sincere "We f*cked up, we were conned by a guy who is a serial liar" mea culpa. Instead, they stuck by a guy with a history of 'horseshittery' and never adequately explained or atoned for their cock-up. Indeed, last I remember, they were in a hole and they kept digging. That suggests an absence of judgment, IMHO...so I've no choice, really, but to look askance at anything they say that isn't also reported, independently, by another source. They lost my trust with that fiasco, and not because they got conned--that happens to good people every day--but because they treated their readers like idiots, never explained, and seemed to blame the readers for not 'believing'....like seven year olds and Santa, really. I might think about that stance for, I dunno, 24 'business hours' and come up with a more charitable approach, but right now I think they treated their readers disrespectfully and relied on more good will than they in fact possessed.

[It will take a lot more than 24 business hours for Google News to ever use TruthOut again as a source. Thanks to the wonderful reporting team of Leopold & Lib (Pitt), Google REMOVED TruthOut from Google News.]

They did their due diligence. AND if you think they didn't then I am to surmise that you think Pitt and Ash are liars. I ain't going there because I trust that they are not.

[That's okay. You have permission to go there.]

If that is true, they should out the lying source. Something stinks, there. It doesn't make sense to cover for a liar. It just doesn't. And that moving 24 business hour goalpost just sounded like pure, made-up, horseshit to me. "The dog ate my homework" would have been more believable. Now that is just my opinion, I realize that others may not feel that way. It doesn't pass my smell test, to me it looked like they got caught in a mess and yeah, if they didn't try to lie their way out of it, they suspended judgment and passed on a cockamamie story, or they made stuff up as they went along, and I don't believe that they were being honest with their readers. Again, just my opinion, and just my impression. Others' mileage will likely vary.

[The dog ate my homework 24 business hours ago.]

IMO this was a set-up like Dan Rather. The fascisti have found the Achilles heel of citizen journalism and they are working it for all its worth.

[The fascisti worked diligently for 24 business hours to take down that amazing reportorial team of Leopold & Lib.]

TruthOut had no incident in my eyes. I believe and trust Will Pitt ... and find Jason to of reported his Rove story with a sincere heart.....no malice intent. What happened after the story broke, as in no Rove indictment does not mean his story and data was false.

[I BEEEEEEEELLLEEEEEEEVE!!!]

Dan Rather. Judith Miller and the NYT. More seasoned jouralists than Leopold have been screwed over by Bushco.

[So making out Jason Leopold to be a liar, drug addict, and a crook was a piece of cake.]

Point out one instance where I "demanded" you believe anything. You call yourself a liberal. You are no better than the liars on the right you claims to abhor. I certainly never demanded anyone believe anything. No one did.

[That was Jason Leopold himself posting from the asylum. You're right, Jason. No one believed anything you wrote except for the DUmmies.]

You were not posting here at the time your article came out. Instead, another Truthout employee demanded that we take the article on faith.

[That was William Rivers Pitt posting his famous articles of faith tracts on the DUmmie Door.]

I, and many others, were roundly criticized for being skeptical of your article from a number of people here on DU. Anyone who was skeptical of your article was called a "cretin" and a "f*ckshit of low mental weight."

[That was Pied Piper Pitt posting under the influence of too many Bukowski's refreshments.]

If your article was true, why is Rove free today?

[Because intrepid boy reporter, Jason Leopold, got too far ahead of the news cycle?]

Prove one instance where the NYT outs their sources. I dare you

[Leopold issues a Truth or Dare.]

I don't regret helping Pitt get his publishing contract, but I wasn't prepared for the disinformation campaign he waged here to protect Bev Harris. So yes, he's perfectly capable of lying.

[Pied Piper Pitt is just $10 away from getting his publishing contract.]

Everybody makes a mistake now and then. Nobody should think of it as a big deal.

[Said the captain of the Titanic.]

Jason has some serious incidents in his recent journalism past (regardless if they're right, wrong, or even if those publications were actively trashing Jason), and it was Ash's duty to be extra careful with Leopold. Truthout's lost reputation can be put squarely on Mark Ash's shoulders. Period.

[Incidents like flat out lying in his stories. No big deal.]

Sure, everyone makes mistakes, but that's what retractions are for, and Truthout never fully retracted the Rove stories. Can they be trusted as a news source? Google doesn't think so. Google had included Truthout as a news source in their news site until the Rove indictment stories. Then they abruptly pulled Truthout, and they've never added them back.

[Perhaps they will in 24 business hours.]

Getting the story wrong AND insulting people for not believing said story? Not the way to build trust in your organization.

[Pitt's excuse was that he was not only an incompetent press secretary but an incompetent editor as well.]

Leopold made the story up, hoping it would turn out to be true and then he'd look like they'd have scooped the MSM.

[And this DUmmie WINS a Kewpie Doll for having a brief moment of mental clarity!]

Don't forget that Leopold had a book to sell...
If it had turned out Rove was indicted (which a lot of people believed would happen) then Leopold would have really benefitted financially.

[Notes From The Asylum: The Jason Leopold Story.]

Did YOU speak to Leopold's source? Don't forget when this whole thing was coming down, first there were a dozen sources, then eight or six, down to three or two, then one? I can't exactly remember, but the number of sources was all over the map and changed several times from Will Pitt's first posting of Leopold's article on the DU. Exactly which of the non-existent sources did Ash talk to? All of em? Or was it just one? Or NONE? Who can tell?

[Check the Bukowski's barroom floor and pose those questions to Will Pitt when he finally awakes from the nightly coma.]

Sure, they could have sources. Then again, they might not have sources. Or their source might be a pink elephant in a tutu. Prove to me that's not true.

[That pink elephant in a tutu is just Will Pitt's version of his personal Harvey.]

I really think Leopold could get his career back if he were to out his source and really tell us what happened.

[Unfortunately, his source is sealed on the fourth floor of Paxton Boggs.]

Truthout was far from the only news source that believed Rove was about to be indicted. David Shuster reported much the same thing on MSNBC. Many other people were confident that Mr. Fitzgerald was moving towards indictment in early May. I count myself as being among them.

[Thanx for reminding us that David Shuster was an idiot too.]

Don't forget, the Rove indictment came on the heels of Truthout being questioned about a Leopold article where he said Rove or Rove's lawyer had received a target letter, also of which was never substantiated. THEN after the Rove indictment fiasco occurred, they held fast to the story, even when it got to unbelievable ends...I kept waiting for Truthout to do the obvious thing they should have done: issued a statement that they were retracting the story until they had information that could substantiate it.

[On the up side it did cause Pied Piper Pitt to post his Endless "Penitence" At DUmmie Canossa whose very length qualifed for the Guiness Book of Records.]

Before the Rove has been indicted story was printed, Leopold wrote a story that Rove and/or his attorney received a target letter. When Leopold was facing severe questioning about the truthfulness/facts of that story, he suddenly came out with the indictment story. It appeared he published that one to divert the bad attention from the target letter story being bogus, figuring Rove would be indicted any day (which appeared was going to be the case), then when he wasn't, then even worse spin began...

[TruthOut's fashion photographer thought it passed the smell test plus the most Incompetent Press Secretary in the History of All the Known Universes thought the Leopold story was entirely credible as well.]

I have no personal beef with you, Jason. I have an aversion to bad journalism and media spin. It has nothing to do with you, and I had no intention of bringing any of your prior history up until you made it a big issue. I even complimented you on your book and writing ability. You gotta stop being paranoid. Columbia Journalism Review points out how you seem to think everyone is always out to get you - that everyone is after you.

[To request that Jason Leopold stop being paranoid is like asking a normal person to stop breathing.]

It isn't the event. It was the coverup. The obvious lies by Leopold were masked by total, utter bullshit by Marc Ash. I lost all faith, but not when they were caught with believing bad sources - that happens. It was the aftermath that bothered me. The slow, painful way in which they tried to linger on the original story despite the obvious (to everyone else?) nonsense that it was based on. They didn't own up to their mistakes for a painfully long time.

[Thus toppling the reputation of that giant of journalism---TruthOutTheDoor.]

Will Pitt's drunken rant on here really lowered TruthOut in my eyes, too.

[Which drunken rant? Will Pitt rants drunkenly almost every time he crawls home from Bukowski's which means its hard to keep track of them all.]

Patrick Fitzgerald's office has yet to confirm or deny
all we have is the word of Karl Rove's attorney who has been known to lie to protect his clients.

[That's right, Jason. Why should we believe Rove's attorney or the small detail that Karl Rove is still walking around free? Instead we should place our faith in your credibility that Rove was indicted last May 12.]

So again, all you have is the word of Rove's attorney. nothing else. no documents. Nothing. Just the word of his attorney. So we are sticking to our story and we have said so many times already, but some people just can't seem to accept that.

[Proclaimed Jason Leopold between electro-shocks.]

I am sticking to the story. that is my point. Debate the shit out of it here. But I am sticking to it.

[The sun rises in the west. that is my point. Debate the shit out of it here. But I am sticking to it.]

Did I ever once say or claim or opine that people were out to get me? You put that in quotes. No. I never did. So your interpretation is way off base. At what point do you accept that this is the way it is.

[Stated Jason Leopold from the Rubber Room.]

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