"Anger - A Rant"

Let's see. The Democrats now control the White House as well as the House and Senate by huge majorities. So what is the attitude of the DUmmies? ANGER at the Republicans for somehow messing things up for them. Sorry, but if their beloved Barack Obama can't move legislation with all those odds stacked in his favor that shows incredibly POOR political ability. For all his faults, Lyndon B. Johnson was a master at politics and would have NO trouble moving legislation through congress under these conditions. How do I know? Because he did. It was called the Great Society. However, after the big Democrat losses in the 1966 election, even LBJ couldn't move much more legislation and what do you think will happen after 2010 with Obama who has proved himself to be terrible at politics?

As a result we now have DUmmie Prophet 451 posting a primal scream THREAD, "Anger - A Rant." So let us now savor the exquisite humor of uncontrollable DUmmie anger in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting this is a just a small foretaste of what is to come when public option ObamaCare does NOT pass, is in the [barackets]:

Anger - A Rant (foul language warning)

[Warning not needed since we just assume that EVERY DUmmie thread has an automatic foul language warning.]

Dear Republicans,

F*ck you. No, I'm not joking. I'm sick of this bullshit.

[Oh, thank you for that clarification, DUmmie Prophet 451. We thought you might just be joking.]

I'm sick of the way you've corrupted the public discourse. The way you've made it acceptable to hurl any insult you like at public officials. The way you blame us for the current atmosphere of hatred by accusing us of starting it with hating Bush. Like Bush didn't come on the heels of eight years of your tireless efforts to destroy Clinton by any means necessary, like Bush didn't give us good reason to complain. A couple of posters on a website compared Bush to Hitler and you've used it as free license to compare Obama to Hitler 24/7 and I'm sick of your hypocrisy, where it's acceptable to say shit about Obama that you would have had an apopletic fit (and did) if anythign remotely similar had been said about your guys. Keith Olbermann calls Cheney a fascist when he was actually using fascist tactics and you think that gives you the freedom to call Obama a fascist, socialist, Marxist constantly for no reason at all. F*ck you and your bullshit false equivelancy.

[Oh, I see. It was perfectly okay for DUmmies to hurl insults at Bush but HOW DARE WE criticize the beloved Barack Obama! And only a COUPLE of DUmmies compared Bush to Hitler? Please! We've been chronicling that particular charge many times over here in the DUmmie FUnnies the past few years.]

I'm sick of the way you've made the populace stupid. Around a fifth of your populace thinks the sun orbits the earth, over half think evolution never happened. Your populace actually believe the media has a liberal bias. Not because it has, you have the most conservative media in the free world, but because you've shouted it so loud and so often that you've brainwashed the public into believing it, like the battered wife who parrots her husband's insults. You've got a whole segment of the populace shouting about socialism and fascism and none of them know what the f*cking words mean. You've convinced them that fascism is a left-wing thing. You've got them so turned around that some of them actually believe global warming isn't happening. F*ck you.

[And around 90% of the DUmmies think Uranus affects your destiny. Check out your own Astrology section. The DUFUs have since it provides such great mirth.]

I'm sick of the way you try to destroy the whole concept of government. You've tricked the people into believing that government can't do anything right, always being careful to exclude the army because you love your bullets and bombs but you've so destroyed the public's ability to reason that they don't even think of interstate highways, the space program, the national parks program, etc. Government is always great when it's doing what you tell it and inevitibly corrupt when it isn't. F*ck you.

[The way DUmmie Prophet 451 rants, you would have thought that the Republicans were in control of all three branches of the government.]

I'm sick of your dragging the centre ever further to the right. How many whackjob fringe ideas have you dragged into the mainstream? The aforementioned idea that tax cuts increase revenues, the Laffer Curve, the idea that Welfare harms the poor, the idea that there's rampant fraud in Welfare, the idea that whatever is good for corporations is good for the country. And you push these ideas through your corporate media and you do it so long and loud that they become part of the accepted political landscape and because it is easier to tell a lie than to debunk one, we never get away from this rancid shit. F*ck you.

[Fraud in government spending programs? GASP! Who could think such a thing?]

I'm sick of your casual criminality. Teddy Kennedy, a man who's boots you were not worthy to lick, was just buried and all I've heard from my rightist friends for days is Chappaquidick, Chappaquiddick, Chappaquidick. Your f*cking golden boy raped the Constitution, mainly because he wanted to; tortured random people (and waterboarding is torture, f*ck you too) essentially because he wanted to; spent like a drunken sailor, essentially because he wanted to; invaded a soverign nation, essentially for the loot and destroyed people's lives, essentially for the evilulz and you bastards are obsessed with a f*cking accident a Democrat had decades ago? You don't go on about Laura Bush killing some guy decades ago. F*ck you.

[Don't hurt your head too much while bashing it against the wall during this primal scream session.]

I'm sick of you praising pure evil. You're letting Dick Cheney be the standard-bearer for Republicanism. Dick Cheney, a man so nakedly evil that even his friends call him "Darth"; a man so callous that Lex Luthor would recoil in terror; a man who probably has dismembered hitchhikers in those man-sized safes and kills plants by his mere proximity. F*ck you.

[Stand by! The nurse will soon be arriving at your rubber room with an extra dose of lithium.]

I'm sick of your attempts to tilt the playing field permanently in your favour. Democrats filibustered a few of Bush's most hateful judicial picks and you pricks started screaming about doing away with the filibuster but now you're in the minority, you're filibustering absolutely everything you can and whining when you don't get the chance. You ignored everything the Democrats had to say when you had power and now that you don't, you scream that everyone must be bipartisan. You don't budge a f*cking inch on anything but you insist that everyone must compromise to meet you. That's your idea of politics: Don't move an inch, force the other guy to come to the right to meet you and call the result a "compromise". F*ck you.

[May I pour some garlic salt on that carpet you are chewing to make it a bit more palatable?]

I'm sick of your corporatism. You dress it up in false populism but anyone with half a brain can see that you're the brought and paid for subsidiary of big business. You keep pushing tax cuts as the answer for absolutely everything, you keep sabotaging every attempt to control the excesses of big business. You geuinely think the world would be a better place if it was a combination of Bill Gibson's dystopian vision of a corporate dominated world and Ayn Rand's bullshit Objectivism, yet another entry in mankind's endless attempts to find a moral justification for naked greed. You've taken the clinically insane spewings of a woman literally to the right of Hitler (pardon my Godwins) and the 1984-like vision of a dystopian author and convinced yourselves that would be a good place to live. Big business is the enemy of the people, always has been. The ideal for the corporate class is to have a small pool of people rich enough to buy their f*cking crap and a much larger pool of people so poor and with so few options that they can be used and abused at the corporation's whim. A corporation's objective is not to look after you, it is to make ever-larger profits by any means necessary. You bastards want to reinstate f*cking slavery to the corporate class and you've made the public so f*cking stupid that they actually swallow the bullshit you're serving up, they actually want to enslave themselves to the corporations that abuse them at every turn. They actually care more about the corporations right to make obscene profits than they care about their child's right to live on a habitable planet. F*ck you.

[As the shrink in the Gary Larson cartoon wrote in his notepad about the patient lying on the couch: "Just plain NUts!!!"]

F*ck you, you scumridden shitehawks, you make me sick. Just f*ck off and die.

[Please calm down just enough so we can make the proper straitjacket fittings. Okay, DUmmie Prophet 451 has just provided the bulk of the entertainment but there are still a few comedic tidbits left from the DUmmie peanut gallery...]

This is Rude Pundit-worthy and I don't say that to just anyone.

[The DUmmie version of high praise.]

I am weary of the hatred, and I have resolved to do what I can to starve that wolf.

[Posted the DUmmie without the sightest sense of self-irony.]

PROPHET, YOU ARE MY KIND OF MAN

[Good. That means you won't mind sharing the rubber room with him.]

Pure f*cking poetry. Every repuke on the planet should be forced to read this.

[We are and thanx for the comedic entertainment!]

Your rant speaks for many of us who yearn for the truth, and despise the lies.

[A group primal scream therapy session?]

Republican is a euphemism For bigoted, hateful, authoritarian, totalitarian, Ku Klux Klan, skinhead, treasonous, dumb ass, knuckle dragger, mendacious, prevaricating, corrupt, chicken hawk, short peckered...... And yes, anti American.

[Don't hold back. Tell us what you REALLY think about Republicans.]

Therapeutic! I registered just to say "Excellent rant!" and "thank you!" No time now, but plan to return later. I really like the DU site.

[Yeah, DUmmieland is like the Safe House for the mentally unstable.]

Pitt & DUmmies Suddenly Discover Religion as Devout "Kennedy Catholics"

(WARNING: Extreme hypocrisy alert! If what you read below revolts you, don't say you weren't warned in advance).

Did you know that there is a new religion out there? In addition to the Eastern Orthodox Catholics, Anglican Catholics, and Roman Catholics, there is now something called "Kennedy Catholics." At least according to the suddenly devout William Rivers Pitt in his DUmmie THREAD, "For any and all Kennedy Catholics on this page." Fasten your seatbelts because you will see the exact same folks who have no problem cursing out people who attend real (not Kennedy) Catholic churches suddenly become exceeding reverent, invoking beliefs that they do NOT have. Keep in mind that these are the same people who have no problem flashing their breasts and/or schlongs at churches on St. Patrick's Day or on Gay Day. And yet here they are and only because Ted Kennedy passes away, they suddenly "find" religion. The hypocrisy is absolutely stunning. So let us now watch Pied Piper Pitt and his fellow DUmmies reverently express precisely the beliefs they do NOT believe in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, who knows that the DUmmies will quickly revert to worshiping the goddess Gaia who resides in Uranus, is in the [brackets]:

For any and all Kennedy Catholics on this page

[Not to be confused at all with real Catholics such as Roman Catholics.]

Hail Mary, full of grace.
Our Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb,
Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
Now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

Bless you, Teddy, and thank you, sir

[So does that mean that Pied Piper Pitt really worships Jesus as the son of God and considers Mary to be the Mother of God? Of course not but that won't keep him from grandstanding in a most hypocritical manner. And now the rest of the DUmmies join the Pittster in his hypocrisy...]

I will be saying a rosary for Teddy and his family tonight.

*bows head*

[Which you WON'T be doing when you angrily bare your breasts and schlong in front of your local church.]

Bless those who live their lives thinking of and working for others. Ted was the epitome of such a person.

[Except when Mary Jo was trapped in that air pocket.]

Eternal rest grant unto him and let perpetual light shine upon him. May his soul,and the souls of all the faithful departed, rest in peace.

[So how much did you curse Jerry Falwell when he died?]

Orate pro eo. Ora pro nobis peccatoribus nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Orate.

[Et dixit Dominus ad Satan increpet Dominus in te Satan et increpet Dominus in te qui elegit Hierusalem numquid non iste torris est erutus de igne]

Pater noster, qui est en caelis. Sanctificatem Noem Tuum...

[Pitt's Latin is off off but he is rusty since he accepted the goddess Gaia as his lord and master.]

and I will raise him up on the last day

[Teddy? That will happen in 24 business hours.]

Requiem in pace. I will always be a Kennedy Catholic.

[As opposed to a REAL Catholic.]

Amen and thank you for helping me to find the way to describe my faith, I'm a Kennedy Catholic.

[This DUmmie has found the Truth, the Way, and the Blight.]

May the Lord bless you and keep you,

May the Lord make his face to shine upon you,
May the Lord look upon you with favor, and grant you peace,
in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
Amen.

[Prayed the DUmmie, RevCheesehead. And that really is his screen name.]

only days ago did i realize that i, and my family, are "kennedy catholics"- reading JFK: Unspeakable realized that it had nothing to do with "the church" -- it was a civic religion for them, and I inherited that. "world peace" and all that.
this is the first time i've seen the phrase used outside of my own musing.

[A touch of honesty from a DUmmie who admits that "kennedy catholics" have nothing to do with "the church" i.e. real catholics.]

Kennedy Catholics like us are the trojan horse for liberation theology.

["Us" meaning Bolshevik Catholics aka Kennedy Catholics.]

it took me a long time to realize that liberation theology wasn't sanctioned by The Church. what a let down!

[So drop the pretense about being a real Catholic and pray to the goddess Gaia as part of your Kennedy Catholic worship.]

I have no words for this. No words.

[Neither do most normal people whose jaws are dropping at the incredible level hypocrisy displayed here. So does this mean that Pitt will be married by a Roman Catholic priest this October at the wedding I shall be crashing or will he continue his plans to be wed by a Kennedy Catholic priestess of goddess Gaia?]

Holder Special CIA Prosecutor Inspires KOmmie Bloodlust

Gee! What coincidental timing. ObamaCare is on the ropes and the Leftwing loons are growing angry with Obama. What to do? What to do? Simple. Try to make the loons forget their disappointment about public option ObamaCare fading away as well as punish those Wascally Weepublicans by unleashing the Attorney General Hound Eric Holder on the EVIL Bush administration by investigating laughable torture allegations. Does anybody think Obama would have given the thumbs up to Holder if ObamaCare were sailing along thanx in part to cooperative Republicans? Of course not. This is an entirely POLITICAL investigation. And if you doubt it, just check out the bloodlust glee of the KOmmies in this THREAD, "Breaking: HOLDER to appoint Special Prosecutor!!!" Yeah, the liberal MSM types will publicly pretend that this investigation isn't political but the KOmmie posts here belie that pretension. So let us now watch the KOmmies dance for glee over the highly political investigation of the Bush CIA in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, watching yet another example of Chicago thuggery that is sure to backfire bigtime, in in the [barackets]:

Breaking: HOLDER to appoint Special Prosecutor!!!

[Enjoy! Perhaps you won't notice the ObamaCare fade while you're celebrating.]

Just got text from WAPO: US Attorney general to appoint prosecutor to investigate allegations that CIA interrogators broke anti-torture laws.

[EEK! They tortured with A/C and extra helpings of orange glaze chicken with rice pilaf.]

This is a great day in America. I don't know much about Durham, but I know having a special prosecutor is what I've wanted since Jan. 20, 2009, and one of the reasons (besides healthcare) that I worked so hard on the campaign.

[Since ObamaCare seems to be a bust, one out of two ain't bad. However, when the backfire comes, you will end up with ZERO out of two.]

Lock 'em up, incl. Dick.

[Straight to The Hague. Do not pass Go.]

Especially Dick. He's the instigator here. He above all needs to be taken down.

[Cheney was in the CIA during the past 8 years? No matter. Prosecute now and sort it out later.]

Don't forget the Chimp. He signed off. Don't let him skate with "Who, me? I'm too stupid."

[Why not go for broke and prosecute Rush Limbaugh too?]

There must be investigation, there must be prosecution, and there ultimately must be life sentences without parole or pardon for 1) the people at the top who ordered torture, 2) those near the top who violated the Constitution on an almost daily basis to allow it to happen, and 3) those who crafted the legal opinions to let it happen.

While many others also arguably deserve life sentences, the absolute minimum is for the people in those three categories to spend the rest of their lives in prison. Anything less is unacceptable to the continued survival of the Constitution, the rule of law, and any semblance of morality or human dignity.

Names in those three categories include, but are not limited to: Cheney, Rove, Bush, Addington, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Yoo, Bybee.

[And don't forget Barney the Dog.]

Why not use the the Nuremberg trials as a guide....for trying our home-grown international law and constitutional criminals? I can see little difference between the Nazis and these bastards.

[Eichman turned up the A/C at the camps and force fed the prisoners large helpings of orange glaze chicken?]

Rummy, too and I'm betting a guy named Rove got involved, too. Not to mention a couple of Generals.

[Fortunately Karl Rove has already been indicted on May 12, 2006.]

I did state that they should all be in prision. Heck, the dog should probably go too for standing by his master til the end.

[I SWEAR I did NOT read this when I jokingly posted above about Barney the Dog being investigated.]

but what I have learned about Holder ... is that he's methodical and extremely prepared - he's been pushing back on a special prosecutor on torture until he had a clear strategy ...

[but what I have learned about Holder ... is that he's been pushing back against prosecuting the Black Panthers in Philly for threatening voters at the polls with clubs.]

We can lock up the interrogators. We can lock up the memo lawyers. We can lock up people like Rumseld and Rice. All that would be great. But in the end, it STILL won't send the message that the world needs to see. Unless we also lock of GEORGE W. BUSH AND DICK CHENEY, this is gonna be little more than a whitewash.

[Hey! Go for broke! LOCK UP ALL CONSERVATIVES!!!]

I think maybe the overall populace will need to see a huge accumulation of facts before they will begin to believe the degree of horrific-ness that the Cheney administration represented. This move opens to the door to those revelations to those who don't watch MSNBC.

[Yeah, it will open their eyes as to how political these investigations are.]

After the Fitzgerold fiasco I'm not sure it matters. I don't know that the criminal enterprise that was the Bush/Cheney administration can ever be cracked.

[MERRY FITZMAS!!!]

Now let's hope it actually leads to actual justice!

[Justice like the Marc Rich pardon to which Holder gave his thumbs up.]

Look, I want to see Bush and Cheney investigated as much as anyone, but the idea of us "pushing" the AG on any of this is incredibly offensive. It's not Holder's job to give a shit what you or I think. It's his job to enforce the law.

[Enforce the law? So where were the indictments of the Philly Black Panthers who threatened voters with clubs?]

These crimes must be prosecuted, no matter where they lead.

[Unless they lead to Black Panthers intimidating voters.]

Obama took on Holder specifically because he knew he would seek this info out and pursue it, maybe the exact day isn't the best timing but you can be sure that there was a general time frame for investigations to begin.

[The time frame began when Obama's popularity entered the free-fall stage.]

I don't want to see Cheney locked up. As a person who also has a pacemaker, I want to see the battery in Cheney's pacemaker removed. That's good enough for me.

[Feel the love!]

Does anyone think this is strange timing? It seems like there are so many Obama Administration irons in the fire right now, will this get the attention it really needs? Perhaps this is a way of getting the Grand Obstructionist Party to pay less attention to killing Health Care reform and to leave Cap 'N Trade alone.

[Yup! It certainly is strange timing. And it is ALL ABOUT POLITICS.]

All I want for christmas is Bush-Cheney in a cell

[MERRY FITZMAS!]

Would have LOVED Fitzgerald in that post.

If you will recall...Fitzgerald did NOT indict Rove.

[Oh yes he did. It happened on May 12, 2006. Just ask William Rivers Pitt.]

This only matters if they go after DoD higher ups and the Vice President. Locking up some CIA chumps will be a waste of time and effort and make us look like dicks.

[Have no fear. You already look that way.]

I have said it before, timing, by the time 2010 - 2012 roll around, Dick and Geroge will be getting their subpeonas.

[Drooled the KOmmie in anticipation.]

The Right will point to left-leaning sites like Kos and say "See it's a political witch hunt".

[Li'l Beaver's finger is already pointing straight at you.]

This is an instance where it would be better to celebrate in silence and let the process go where it may. Obama has desperately tried to distance himself from any Holder situation, to try and keep politics out of it.

[Too late. We have already noticed your gloat fest.]

They need to get the higher ups, especially Bush and Cheney, and they need also to go out and expose just how widespread this atrocious behavior was. I think that every time we win one thing, it makes it easier to win the next one. It's about time; let's go!

[Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Bush and Cheney must go...to The Hague.]

I had hope and faith that this would happen. I am so happy!

[And when you're finished with the massive urinations of happyness in your pants, you might notice that ObamaCare has been run off the road.]

War crimes were committed by George W. ("We don't torture!") Bush, Dick (dictator) Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, John (Torture isn't torture so it is legal.) Yoo, George ("Medal of Freedom") Tenet, Alberto ("I don't recall.") Gonzales, John (Jesus Christ is my savior.) Ashcroft, David Addington, et. al. Execute quickly!

[Bypass the trials! Go straight to the gallows!]

DUmmies Hail Inspector Barack Clouseau™

Remember the bumbling Inspector Jacques Clouseau of Pink Panther fame? No matter what mistakes he made, such as falling over a sofa, he gravely claimed it was all part of his master plan in his investigation. Well, the DUmmies have the same attitude about Obama. They believe that his political fumbling is all part of some sort of ingenious master plan known only to him. Yes, the president has beome the Inspector Barack Clouseau™ for the DUmmies as you can see in this THREAD, "Barack Obama, You FOOLED ME, And I Apologize." Yes, the DUmmies are apologizing for thinking of Obama as he really is, a political incompetent, and are now trying to convince themselves that the president is really bumbling on purpose as part of some ingenious master plan unknown to the rest of us mortals. So let us now watch the DUmmies heap praise on Inspector Barack Clouseau™ in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, looking for some artistic type out there to provide an Inspector Barack Clouseau™ graphic, is in the [barackets]:

Barack Obama, You FOOLED ME, And I Apologize

[Barack, you magnificent bastard!!!]

Damn.

John Stewart was right.

You're a f*cking Jedi Knight ten steps ahead of everybody f*cking else.

[May the Farce be with you.]

You KNEW what was going to happen at those town hall meetings during the slow news month of August.

You KNEW the Republicans would start feeling confident that they could knock you out while they had you on the ropes.

You KNEW whacked out Birthers and Deathers and Teabaggers were going to project their ignorant assed bullshit on eveyrbody.

And I'll even bet you KNEW Charles "I Tweet Dumb Shit" Grassley would f*cking BRAG about how he wasn't negotiating in good faith.

["I know I fell off the sofa, Madame. There’s no need to tell me—everything I do is carefully planned, Madame." ]

Well, August is now more than half over.

You already have the chief REpublican negotiator for bipartisanship in health care reform saying he wasn't negotiating in good faith, AND THEN ADMITTING THERE WAS NO WAY HE'D VOTE FOR ANY BILL!

Your ducks are all in a row.

[DUAC! DUAC!]

You now have every right to say, "we negotiated in good faith with the Republicans to develop health care reform legislation. You now have the chief negotiator bragging about how he wasn't negotiating in good faith but was rather using some sort of stalling tactic to slow down the legislation and even admitting there is no bill we could come up with that he'd vote for. Health care reform is simply too important for this kind of gamesmanship, so the Democratic Caucus in the Congress now has no choice but to go it alone. We'll now develop the legislation that Democrats can vote for and pass that however we have to."

BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!

Masterful.

The Force is STRONG in you!

[Sayeth the Jedi kNUt.]

I'm sorry I ever doubted you.

[You are forgiven my son. Now go and spin some more...]

Yes, every single thing that HAS HAPPENED was part of HIS PLAN. Brilliant!

[Including falling over the Oval Office sofa. Brilliant!]

He's a chess player, always 10 moves ahead of his opponents

[Only 10 moves? Piker! Make that a full dozen moves ahead of his opponents.]

Oh, how I hope you're right.

[Don't worry. Tinker Bell will sprinkle pixie dust upon Inspector Barack Clouseau™ and then will be all right in the world.]

The rope-a-dope wins again--I hope. I truly believe Obama, in his heart of hearts, wants a Medicare-esque plan--and he knows just how to get it. Still, I'm crossing my fingers just in case.

[And don't forget to rub that rabbit's foot while you're at it.]

Hope Springs Eternal

[MERRY FITZMAS!!!]

I'm not making any judgments of any kind about Obama until we see the final product. Then it'll be easy to tell if he's championed our ideals or sold us out, because it will already have happened one way or another. Anything else at this point is akin to leaving the stadium in the 7th inning.

[It will all come together beautifully in just 24 business hours.]

He's got 'em HYPNOTIZED!!!

[Look deeeeply into my eyes. Your mind is as empty as a DUmmie.]

What's better is the grass roots gets to claim the victory

Because we've all been gaga for three months emailing, phoning, and snail mailing everybody and their brothers about this. So now we get to feel all warm and fuzzy about OUR victory and ahve even more of a sense of connection to the process, investing even more of ourselves in the future of Democratic politics. It's f*cking brilliance.

[I always suspected that Inspector Barack Clouseau™ ripping up the pool table felt with his cue stick at his press conferences was all part of his brilliant grand plan.]

Talk about rope-a-dope. This should be the standard forever more.

[Yes, dope-a-dope will be studied for many years to come.]

You've just raised my confidence level considerably. He knows what he's doing, and when to come out hitting hard. I think the time has come--and he knows it.

["Now to set the trap, catch the killer and prove to the world that Maria Gambrelli is innocent... of murder. We must accelerate out training program. You must learn to attack me whenever and wherever I least expect it. And you, you must give no quarter."]

Stay tuned folks, this man is no amateur.

["Facts, Hercule, facts! Nothing matters but the facts. Without them the science of criminal investigation is nothing more than a guessing game." ]

So you're saying Obama intentionally made himself look weak, intentionally made his administration seem disorganized, and intentionally pissed off the base while failing to court any conservatives?

[Absolutely. All is going according to the grand plan of Inspector Barack Clouseau™.]

I hope with all of my heart that you are right.

[Pray fervently to goddess Gaia.]

I'll withhold judgement until it's over. Been burned too many times

[So how much did Bev Harris burn you for and did you enjoy your Fitzmas festivities?]

If Obama pulls this off: I WILL CONCIEVE ANOTHER CHILD JUST TO NAME IT BARACK. Or Barackalina, as necessary.

[Posted the hopeful DUmmie from the barackish depths.]

DUmmies dropping Obama if he drops public option

"Pull the plug."

The DUmmies are SEETHING! SOMEBODY SHOOK UP THE ANTS! And it was none other than Mr. Hopey-Changey himself. Apparently, he's changing his mind on the "public option" and hoping his Marxist base won't mind too much. Well, think again, bunkie!

Here's the deal: As he sees his poll numbers tanking, Emperor Zero is waking up and smelling the tea leaves. America may not be quite ready for full-blown, government-run, socialized health care just yet. But the DUmmies are! And if Obama drops the public option, they may just drop him! That's been the buzz in our DUmmie Ant Farm this week, in multiple threads, such as this THREAD and this THREAD, both bearing the news story title, "White House appears ready to drop 'public option.'"

So get out your blood-pressure cuff and let's see if the DUmmies are ready to stroke out, in Bolshevik Red, while the calm commentary of your humble guest correspondent, Charles Henrickson--wondering if, since laughter is the best medicine, ObamaCare will FUnd the DUmmie FUnnies--is in the [Barackets]:

White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

[DUmmieland appears ready to drop 'nuclear option' on White House]

If this is the case, I wash my hands of the all the Dems that vote for a bill and sign it into law.

[DUmmies washing their hands is always a good thing.]

Obama is ready to toss any public option and go for local (ineffective) health co-ops. If this administration has anything to stand for, now is the time. Or has it already passed??!!?

[The chicken has flown the co-op.]

The Administration might be sending out trial balloons or they really are disorganized, or ??

[And these are the people you want to have running national health care???]

why can't Obama or Biden storm into the House and Senate and read them the riot act like LBJ did?

[Hardscrabble Joe could run down to the Home Depot and pick up a 2 x 4 as "persuasion."]

Was out for a bit but now I'm back, as my rising blood pressure will attest!

[Get in line! Blood-pressure screenings are backed up till February.]

This is so sad. Words just fail me right now.

[So let your hair down and go on and cry.]

Why can't they make Medicare the public option? Allow anyone to be part of Medicare. . . . Seems reasonable unless I'm missing something.

[How about like 16 trillion dollars to pay for the dang thing?]

This tells me MORE of how I will vote next time round than anything else out there. It's all about winning. Well let me clue you folks in Washington in about something--you will NOT win without the grass roots. You simply will not. So take your hollow victory that you are planning on and shove it up your f*cking @sses.

[The 'benburch option.']

Our turn to show up angry at town halls

[DUAC! DUAC!]

I agree, we've been too nice. It IS our turn to be heard!

[TO THE STREETS! TO THE BARRICADES! THE DUMMIES ARE REVOLTING!!!]

Therein lies the rub. we've ALL been gobsmacked.

[OK, cancel the revolt.]

Yup, sucks to be us now

["Now"??]

but I believed Obama - that he is a different kind of politician let down again ... naive .... never believe a politician again

[I BELIEEEEEEEEEEVEDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

Will this make Obama a lame duck president?

[Will this make the DUmmies do a lame DUAC?]

Well, he did say he was willing to be a one termer over health reform. If they dump the public option, then one term is more than he deserves.

[IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!]

I can't believe we were betrayed so easily and so early in his term.

[I BELIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

It will take a national strike. period.

[Not One D*mn Doctor Day!]

there were three calls for strikes in the years of bush. I participated in each one of them... and they failed because people would not, could not be bothered. So yes, I am done...

[Three strikes and you're out.]

well reality is that once we have a call for another one I will stupidly participate knowing full well that it is me and two other idiots who are truly committed to change. . . .

[The other two idiots called and said they can't make it.]

My wife and I have been "on strike" since 2004. In 2006 we Cashed Out all IRAs, sold all Stocks and bought property in The Woods.

["The Woods"--is that like a gated community or something?]

We don't buy anything NEW and grow a good percentage our our food.

[The 'cannabis option.']

I'm still a few years away from Medicare, but I will NOT buy "Health Insurance" from a For Profit Corporation even if mandated to do so. F*ck Them. My "Health Insurance" will remain a pistol in the mouth until then.

[Better dead than Med!]

Sanders in 2012!!

[Socialism you can believe in!!]

God bless Bernie Sanders!

[God bless Vladimir Lenin! . . . Well, except for the 'God' part. . . .]

Blame Harry Reid. . . . he has proved to be incompetent. We need to start a campaign to have him replaced.

[It's the Al Franken Decade!]

"I covered up Glen Beck's books at Costco today"

The DUmmies absolutely can't tolerate conservatives. They would dearly love to remove Rush Limbaugh from the air via the "Fairness Doctrine." It enrages them that Michelle Malkin's book, on the heels of Mark Levin's book, is now the top seller in the country. So no surprise they are now gloating about a stunt posted in this DUmmie THREAD, "I covered up Glen Beck's books at Costco today." So let us now watch the DUmmies hail this laughably pathetic attempt at censorship in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, thinking that a lot of Barnes & Noble clerks have the same silly idea, is in the [brackets]:

I covered up Glen Beck's books at Costco today.

[Congratulations! You just earned your DUmmie Webelo badge for censorship.]

I put other books on top so that people couldn't see them. Is that wrong? It didn't feel wrong.

[Too bad for you, the other books were written by Michelle Malkin and Mark Levin so you still are a loser. Now on to your fellow DUmmies...]

I did that last time I saw Coulter's lies on display Good job!

[A DUmmie admitting that he too is a loser.]

And they're still bestsellers. Think how many more would sell if we didn't do this.

[The mark of book success is when DUmmies desperately try to hide them.]

They are "best-sellers" because right-wing billionaires and organizations buy them in bulk to prop up the sales figures. The fact that they are "best-sellers" is an illusion.

[Karl Rove making the rounds of bookstores with sacks full of cash.]

The exact same amount of books would sell, dumbass. If some random shithead wants a Glenn Beck book, he will find it, no problem. Do you really think that a half-assed attempt at hiding a giant stack of a bestseller will stop anyone from finding them for more than a minute? Glenn Beck fans are nothing if not determined.

[An accurate description of the thread author.]

As an author whose books have been sold at Costco, I wish you hadn't done it. It's one thing to have political views, but it's another thing to disrupt commerce in a sneaky way. And, yes, I'm sure you don't think you were sneaky about it. But it's a childish thing to do, and it accomplishes nothing, contributes nothing...................

[One thing for certain. This wasn't posted by Pied Piper Pitt. Costco doesn't sell vanity press books.]

I do it everytime too - Target, Borders and Barnes & Noble this week... I always turn them upside down and face the cover to the wall. Then I place a larger book in front of them. I've been doing this for a few years now. It gives me much pleasure - a perverse little thrill!

[And caused you to drip gallons of excited drool.]

I've done that in Borders and in Barnes and Noble.

[The DUmmie version of one-up-manship.]

I just walk by a browser and say "You're not going to actually BUY that crap, are you?

[How many teeth do you have left?]

Please don't play "activist" by making more work for some underpaid wage slave. How many unemployed trust fund babies post on this website, anyway?

[We know of at least one from Bukowski's.]

How about putting notes inside the Beck books? Print up a bunch of little slips of paper that says, "You're an idiot." and place them in the middle of the book for the reader to discover halfway through the book. Or perhaps a positive message about liberals or a damning quote from the author? Be creative if you want to protest.

[Or, better yet, how about if I feature your stupid post and leave a note following it in the DUmmie FUnnies that says, "You're an idiot," DUmmie DUlover2909?]

A wad of liberal snot would work better. Something that they can easily understand.

[Posted the DUmmie sophisticate.]

is it against their policy to take a book into the restroom with you and take a dump on it? Yes, I know. It is not allowed, and it may be considered shoplifting to bring an item into the restroom, even if you had to just relieve yourself on it. There are no easy answers.

[How about if we take a dump on a DUmmie?]

World's Worst TV Interview

WARNING: Watching this VIDEO may cause you to pull an Elvis on your computer monitor. It features deranged Lawrence O'Donnell interviewing Peter Schiff who wrote a book that accurately predicted the 2008 economic collapse. Actually "interviewing" really isn't an accurate description. I'll let the person who posted this "interview" to YouTube, caindabomb, describe what happened:

Lets say youre a talk-show host and you get the one guy who precisely predicted the financial collapse a year before it happened. You want to talk to him about the health-care reform debate and the financial implications of the current legislation. Note also that the guest has been openly considering a run against an incumbent Senator. As an interviewer, what strategy would you choose?

A. Ask him to detail in depth how he predicted the financial collapse and to provide parallels to what he sees in the health-care debate

B. Acknowledge his success in predicted the 2008 collapse, but focus instead on the financial implications of health-care reform as a separate topic

C. Research the topic thoroughly and debate him point-for-point on substantive matters within the bill

D. Talk over him, dont allow him to answer anything completely, offer juvenile demands to force the guest to give complicated answers in 30 seconds, and berate him when he attempts to explain why thats the entire problem with the health-care debate

Most interviewers will choose either A, B, or C, and all three are legitimate ways to interview an expert guest. If you want D, you usually have to tune in to MS-NBC, where Lawrence ODonnell filled in for Ed Schultz on The Ed Show and channeled his inner Wally George. ODonnell interviewed Peter Schiff, the man who tried to warn everyone that the housing bubble would burst and create a catastrophe, only in the sense that Schiff was allowed to remain on camera during an almost-uninterrupted diatribe by ODonnell.

Why did ODonnell act like a middle-school bully instead of a news interviewer? Apart from the fact that ODonnell is a middle-school bully on air, Schiff wants to run against Chris Dodd for his Senate seat, and Schiff opposes ObamaCare. Instead of allowing Schiff to actually explain why, ODonnell simply shouts over him and issues ridiculous time demands, and does just about everything short of sticking his fingers in his ears and yelling NA-NA-NA-I-CANT-HEAR-YOU when Schiff tries to explain his positions.

You know, if MS-NBC was an actual news organization, someone there would be embarrassed.

DUmmies Demoralized Over Obamacare

The townhall protests are working...and working beautifully. It looks like the Obamites are going to have to gut most of their beloved Obamacare to nothing but a meaningless feel-good bill in order to allow it to pass. This increasingly likely scenario is what is now demoralizing the DUmmies as you can see in this THREAD, "I've decided we should let the Republicans kill off the damn thing." Yes, the vox populi has spoken despite the Obamaton smears of them as professional Brooks Brothers Astroturf protesters. Anybody with half a brain know this is not true and the politicians are scared of what would happen if they force out a "public option" health care plan. The townhall protesters have the liberals on the run but they should not let up until Obamacare is killed or ends up completely meaningless as our Chinese bankers want it to be. So let us now watch the deeply demoralized DUmmies in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, who now thinks Obamacare will end up as nothing more than a feel-good resolution, is in the [barackets]:

I've decided we should let the Republicans kill off the damn thing

[Close your eyes, lean back, and allow the wascally Weepublican to apply the chloroform rag to your nose.]

It isn't going to solve anything. They have already watered it down so bad the only one's to win is - sure enough - the insurance companies, Hospital corps and big Pharm. I am convinced it MAY make things worse.

[May we now fit you out with a Brooks Brothers suit so you can join our protests?]

Kucinich, our biggest advocate on public options, stopped just short of calling this a pile of shit. What this has morphed into bears no resemblance at all to how it was sold to us. It seems to me we are about to end up with the "Patriot Act" of medical care. Huge money thrown around that doesn't solve one damn thing. Kill it.

[Okey dokey. Will do. And now on to the other DUmmies...]

how about we fight for single-payer instead.

[That is what Obama told us he was REALLY for...but don't tell Linda Douglass.]

Anything less then single payer is a waste of time and effort

[In case anybody hasn't heard, single payer really means government run health care.]

I agree that a crap bill should not be passed.

[How about Crap & Trade?]

I'm all for baby steps in the right direction. I just don't see it here. I expected some compromise but I have yet to see what this thing actually solves and it looks to me like it creates a few problems.

["Baby Steps" by Dr. Leo Marvin. $29.95.]

no public option IS nothing

[You are therefore somewhere between nil and none.]

If anybody should have a mandate, it should be Obama, and not the uninsured. Didn't he have a plan that we essentially supported? And isn't that plan much different than what's on the table?

[Plan? What Plan? I don't need no stinkin' Plans!]

if it's going to FORCE me to buy "health" insurance, I too want it to die

[Your Brooks Brothers suit is in the mail.]

Sure, let's hand the teabaggers victory and enourage them even more. Great idea

[Yup! It sure is a great idea.]

Obama & Co. have let the debate be redefined from health care reform to health insurance reform, and as a result, will get neither. Brilliant strategy on the part of the nominal Democrats running the party (into the ground).

[And here I thought The One was infallible.]

Obama should give the Republicans what they want, and start over.

[Yes, start over right after the 2010 elections. Hee! Hee!]

Could you help me understand the legislation? You see, I haven't been able to track down a copy of the bill that was hammered out between the House and Senate conference committee, so I really don't have any idea of what the final legislation might contain.

[You mean read a bill before it is voted on? What a bizarre concept.]

Kill it and try again after 2010. What they've got now is worse than nothing.

[Yes, after 2010. Hee! Hee!]

No bill better than bad bill.

[Monica isn't so sure. She would prefer bad bill to no bill.]

is everyone finally starting to get it? we were NEVER.GOING.TO.GET.WHAT.WE.WANTED

[GIVE.UP.NOW!]

I hope Obama is making alternate plans starting in 2012. cause he sure ain't going to be re-elected on the basis of this mess.
He has needed to be like LBJ, pressuring legislators to pass what he wants, the way Johnson did for Medicare. Instead, he's letting that traitor Rahm Emanuel cause him to fail.

[I read "Master of the Senate" by Robert Caro and LBJ was the MASTER at getting bills passed. Yes, I know LBJ and Obama is NO LBJ. Not with just a little over a hundred days worth of Senate experience.]

Health care doesn't have to be completely reformed in one shot. I would like to do as much as possible right now but there's no reason we can't get another shot at this in a few years.

[In the Year 2525, if Man is still alive.]

KOmmies Hail Linda Douglass...But Admit Obama Wants Single Payer

This has to be perhaps the most bizarre KOmmie THREAD I have ever DUFUed, "The White House Combats The Rightwing Crap." Yes, the KOmmies are jublilant that the White House is fighting back against the EVIL disinformation supposedly spread by the videos posted by the Drudge Report. After high fiving each other over the VIDEO response by Linda Douglass, they then let the dirty little not-so-secret out of the bag---That Barack Obama is really in favor of single payer just as the linked videos proved with his own words and that they support Obama because he favors single payer. Bizarre. First we shall look at the KOmmies cheering on Linda Douglass for fighting back against the "malicious smear" that Obama supports single payer followed by the KOmmie comments cheering on Obama for favoring single payer. Can we say schizo? So let us now enter the bizarro world of KOmmieland in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, wondering how the DUFU resident troll troglaman will explain this away, is in the [barackets]:

The White House Combats The Rightwing Crap

[HOORAY for Linda Douglass for fighting back against the vicious rightwing lies that Obama supports single payer! And HOORAY for Barack Obama for supporting single payer which we all favor!]

The republicans are now identified with pure emotion.
You can't stop it. It's not about love of country, or genuine disagreements in policy. It all about the negative part of the human spirit - fear, hatred, envy, greed, selfishness. There's always a component of humanity that embraces these things, and that's why we will never have a peaceful world.

[You can't stop it. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead. ]

I don't like the White House statement. I don't want just health insurance reform - I want health CARE reform. I don't like it when the WH plays with words like this statement, asking for our help.

[Psst! Not to worry. Barack is really our side. Pretending to be outraged over charges that he secretly supports single payer is just something we have to do for public consumption. Get it?]

I have yet to hear CNN call the townhall antics orchestrated.

[Good news! Since you have posted this, CNN has hopped aboard your loonie bandwagon.]

There's just way too much BS out there and something needs to be done about it.. Everything from 120 million people losing their insurance to pulling the plug on old people it needs to dealt with right away...

[You mean like the BS that Obama never said that he supported single payer which all you KOmmies support?]

Put the liars back on their heels. Responding tit for tat is not enough, then we are defensive. Put them on their heels and send out positive frames. They will just keep spewing the lies.

[Should we put Obama back on his heels? After all, he is the one in the videos claiming to support single payer.]

take the gloves off. call them what they are-liars and fearmongers who read whatever shit comes off the fax machine in the morning...

[Yeah, how dare they quote Obama accurately and show videos of him saying he supports single payer. This is an OUTRAGE!!!]

It would be nice if it had happened before the goon squads started shutting down the town hall meetings.

[The Thought Police were on recess but now they are back in action.]

They just spew garbage, garbage, garbage, and trust that the Democrats won't have time to combat all of it. I'm glad the White House isn't ducking it, though. They need to go toe-to-toe with these bastards and slug it out.

[Yeah! How dare they tell people what Obama said. Such dirty tactics!]

So glad they're doing this, and from what I hear it's just the beginning. Bravo, White House.

[Bravo, White House, for exposing how the evil rightwing stoops to quoting Obama accurately.]

it looks like we're picking up steam. Dems and Obama and grassroots are out there making the case. Knocking on doors, making calls, holding rallies and town halls.

[Yeah, go out there and make the case that Obama didn't say what he said.-]

the internet is only what you make of it. On balance, for every progressive accomplishment enabled by online organizing, some cheap right-wing attack is also better enabled.

[Posting videos of Obama saying he supported single payer (which you all favor) is a CHEAP RIGHT-WING ATTACK!!!

. . . there was a diary on the Rec List yesterday saying that defending and debunking = losing. So instead of debunking the disinformers and putting the truth out there, maybe we should just call them poopyheads.

[I think you've already initiated that plan.]

The reactionary forces in this country are powerful, but WE are more powerful IF WE ARE UNIFIED AND TOGETHER. Stay together, debunk them, fight back, and stay with your strength!

[How do you debunk videos showing Obama favoring single payer which you support? Weird.]

I saw the Drudge clip. Unfortunately, this video from Linda Douglass does not adequately answer the Drudge video. I wish she would have shown the broader context of the Drudge clips that she says were "taken out of context". Showing clips of President Obama in 2009 does not really counter the argument.

[You are just on the edge of having a brief moment of mental clarity. Close but not quite.]

I agree, the rebuttal was weak. the main thing about the Drudge Video is that they just blatantly lie.

[Of course. Obama didn't say what he said. He lied!]

Checked Drudge this morning and there is a new video that is uncut. It shows Obama saying he wants single payer but they need to get the White House, House of Representatives and The Senate first. If this is the real goal, I wish they would put this forward on its merit. If single payer is not the goal, they need to do a better job explaining why their system will not lead to single payer.

[Oops! You are getting way too close to the truth for comfort. The government-run health care plan that dares not speak its name...for now.]

Sorry, but this "taking action" is going to amount to a big fat nothing. It's a PR move at best. I wouldn't waste my time, quite frankly, unless there were some assurances that something would be DONE about the people behind the healthcare disinformation.

[Send them to The Hague for having the audacity to post videos showing Obama saying exactly what he said.]

The Comments on YouTube...for this video are beyond ignorant on the other side of this argument. It's really amazing.

[Damn those YouTubers for having common sense! How can they not buy the Linda Douglass argument that Obama didn't say what he said?]

This is a warning to anyone who claims to be a "conscientious objector" to health-care reform. You have been duly notified that we are watching you. If you think that being at a public forum excuses you from being civil, think again. We have you on video. Go to YouTube. Look at the videos there. If your face shows up in any of them, we can, and will, make sure that your place of work knows about it. If you apply for work anywhere in the country, and if someone recognizes you, you might be turned down for a job. It is that simple. Look -- we know that you aren't joking around. And neither are we.

[The KOmmie Thought Police have spoken! If you are guilty of a Thought Crime, we will hunt you down and send you directly to Room 101 for "re-eduation."]

I can't believe this crap the right is saying about Obama!

[But do you believe what Obama is saying about Obama? And now to the KOmmie references to the dirty little not-so-secret single payer which they support and are happy that Obama supports...but not in public.]

Thanks Matt Fudge for putting single-payer back into some discussion!

[Thanks Matt even though we have to publicly maintain the fiction that Obama does not support the same single payer that we support.]

Single Payer and WPA 2.0...NOW!!!

[Shhhh! Just don't include Obama in it although he is in it.]

The problem is that these words were spoken... Seems to me that the combo video of Obama/Frank does show that the real intent --be it future or otherwise-- of the public option is to usher in single payer. If they can't be honest about it (the administration), then stuff like this is going to continue to surface, casting clouds over the process. At that point, it doesn't matter whether one thinks single payer is a good idea or not. Trust is lost, and that really hurts the cause.

[GASP!!! You have dared to speak the truth and that is HERESY!!!]

KOmmies Worried About Health Care Townhall Protests

EEEK! The peasants are revolting! Specifically they are revolting at the Obamacare protests at townhall meetings held by Congress folks now that they are in recess as you can see in this KOmmie THREAD, "I don't like how this is going down, period." Yeah, they don't like how this is going down because of the MASSIVE protests at those townhall meetings. I love watching the videos of people showing up at what were previously tame and lightly attended townhall meetings and loudly protesting Obamacare. Usually the folks protesting know a lot more about Obamacare than the flustered legislators. So let us know watch the KOmmies sweat bullets over the possibility that the townhall protests might derail their beloved Obamacare in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, looking forward to watching the daily townhall protests, is in the [barackets]:

The Obama White House needs to get out of the bubble and get real here. We all know that the lobbyists and insurance companies are ARMED TO THE NINES to defeat any health care reform, UNLESS THEY WRITE IT. Since they can not WRITE IT, they will destroy it. Simple as that. Why is this dangerous? These folks are ON TELEVISION, getting eyeballs, and making traction. Worried yet? Sure, it may be just a few, but a few can rollerball into many. The Democrats have not sold the health care reform argument because there is no f*cking bill by them. Are we shooting the bullets into our feet yet?

[The peasants are revolting. They stink on ice!]

Get busy. Get to these meetings of these congress critters and let them know WE ARE THERE.

[Pull yourselves away from your pizzas. Leave your basements. DUAC! DUAC!
And now to the rest of the worried KOmmies...]

We need to use our smarts to our advantage by manipulating them into speaking on camera and then exposing them via local media, youtube, facebook, political blogosphere, and the "traditional" media!!

[Yeah, like the KOmmies are so "smart" that they can do any manipulating.]

But it strikes me when I watch these protesters, as in videos in diary, that there is no opposition present. No countervailing wind. You need to have a very distinct counter message on the spot. Not only for the TV audience (they have to see that others care to show up and shout about the pro health reform message - or the impression is left that no one is contesting these wingers...) but also to bolster the pols who are being attacked for being pro reform.

[You would have a hard time tearing yourselves from your pizzas.]

Most Americans don't necessarily want to ally themselves with crazy people screaming and chasing down representatives of Congress. There's already reports that some people in the crowds are wearing things like Nazi swastikas. If Obama and the Democrats are able to portray these people as their opponents, it may end up hurting the Republicans by association.

[Nancy Pelosi already picked up on your phony swastika charge. No, not completely prophetic here. Just going back and posting one of your loony remarks I should have included in the first place. I guess I should have known that Pelosi would be equally as loony as you for using it.]

What's going on that cops aren't maintaining order at these town halls?

[ACHTUNG! The Order Police have determined that you must not challenge members of congress at townhall meetings!]

Where are the union people?
Where are the people who've been hassled by their insurance companies?
Where are the people who don't have insurance?
Where are the people who've had to pay more and more each year for their coverage?
Where are the business owners who are being strangled by insurance costs?
Where are the business owners who would like to see their employees have insurance?
Where are our "mobs?"

[Where? Where? WHERE? You want to know where your mobs are? Just call ACORN.]

Where are the police? These people are disturbing the peace and inciting a riot, in my opinion.

[Diversity of thought MUST be stomped out!]

What I want to see is our people out there outnumbering the naysayers. Make your presence known. Blogging needs to be translated into action!

[DUAC! DUAC!]

We need to be at every town hall this summer demanding a public option or it will not happen.

[Oh, go ahead and say what you REALLY want namely single payer aka government controlled health care.]

also, some of these conservatives are astroturfers who are actually in the pocket of big pHarma and insurance companies--not actual concerned citizens speaking their own minds.

[Can you supply the name of even ONE "astroturfer?"]

Nazis notoriously trucked in thugs to inflate their numbers at "demonstrations".

[So those crowds were trucked in by Nazis? And your non-existent proof is...?]

It's pretty uncommon for leftish protestors to shut a speaker down.

[LOL! Mind telling that to Ann Coulter or David Horowitz? The first time that Rush Limbaugh was on national TV, he was substituting for Pat Sajak. "Leftish" protestors forced the audience to be evacuated. I remember that incident well.]

Be interesting to know if any of them are being paid for this craziness.

[How about none? But we do know the ACORN counterprotestors ARE being paid...and with taxpayer money.]

My guess is yes. There are lobbyists in those wolf packs. They are on a clock.

[Sure. They commute directly from K Street to those townhall meetings.]

I'd love an opportunity to be paid a few bucks to skip work and show up at town hall meetings to angrily demand a public plan.

[Just join ACORN.]

There are lobbyists in these packs. They are posing as citizens. They pay the homeless to stand in line for them. You do not think they are above paying some poor soul to hold a sign and chant the crazy?

[Name ONE. If you can, you win a dozen free pizzas.]

There needs to be a very well-marketed graph or animation or guide about how the new health care plan would really work, it needs to be loud, so that people can say, "no that's not true, look at the (whatever)". And that's not very easy to do right now, given that there isn't a clear health care plan yet.

[There already is such a GRAPH.]

It's time for democrats to show up in bigger numbers at these townhalls. Teamsters/SIEU/Change to win/NNM/OFA/DFA-are you listening?

[Paging ACORN!]

I've been mostly thinking positively about the odds for a semi-decent bill, but these videos evaporate any hope, I'm afraid. This is going to be a pandemic of bullshit by the middle of the month . . .

[Sniff! The death of hope...and change.]

Come on, People! Get to a local town hall and counter these fools!

[Meanwhile you munch on your pizza in the basement while urging others to go DUAC! DUAC!]

Let's deal with this truth - the American public is too stupid to absorb complex realities that will unfold over decades, and far too willing to be frightened into making a serious mistake to achieve short-term comfort...

[So why don't you move to a smart nation like North Korea?]

They were trucked in for the event, as noted above. Typical thuggish intimidation tactics.

[Yeah, they were trucked in by Karl Rove.]

Don't want to be a downer, but we've already lost this one. By the time Congress gets back to it in September, our only hope will be to prevent further damage. Health Care reform will be a hot topic again in 2025.

[Or the year 2525...if Man is still alive.]

ll the talk on this thread about what Democrats should do, but they wont. I've said it before and I will say it again, things don't change unless people are marching in the street. we had 8 years to march and didn't, the Republicans are already marching.

[DUAC! DUAC!]

You have to give the other side some credit. They are showing up at these town halls and making their voices heard. Our side? Hardly a peep.

[DUAC! DUAC!]

Okay, do I have this right? Conservatives are all unemployed and thus able to attend and disrupt a town hall meeting, but Democrats/progressives are all employed and can't attend? Is that right? Is that why progressives are, once again, here, writing about those disruptive conservatives instead of being out there, standing eyeball to eyeball and yelling at them as loud as they yell? If the conservatives can find out where these town halls are, why can't progressives and show up as en mass as the cons?

[DUAC! DUAC!]

I'm ready and willing to go to war against these radical fascist racist fucks. I mean real war, not rhetorical. I. HATE. THEM. HATE THEM.

[Screamed the KOmmie at the big screen during the middle of Hate Week festivities.]

We need loud voices, catchy phrases, and a branded, clear message. We need an army of people to fight for this.

[DUAC! DUAC!]