A FUnnie look at the loony residents of the Democratic Underground aka DUmmies in particular and the Leftwing Blogosphere in general.
Wednesday, March 02, 2011
DUmmies Surround and Threaten Wisconsin GOP Senator
Have you noticed how the Left always piously screeches for civility (meaning not the slightest bit of criticism from conservatives) UNTIL they don't get their way? Such is what is happening now in Wisconsin where you can see the mask ripped off the phony liberal sanctimoniousness and you see what they are REALLY like in this highly revealing VIDEO. A Republican Wisconsin state senator, Glenn Grothman, is surrounded by a mob of angry DUmmies who threaten him. Only the intervention of a Democrat state legislator at about the 2:50 mark who knew what a PR disaster for the Left this could turn into if physical harm came to the Senator prevented outright violence.
Of course, if this were a Democrat legislator threatened by Tea Party members, imagine the outcry in the media. Most likely they would convene some national townhall meeting to bemoan the violence of the Tea Partiers. As it is, you most likely won't see this video clip in the MSM which shows the TRUE face of where the liberals and the DUmmies are coming from...which is outright LUnacy.
P.S. Please read the interesting comments posted about this video at YouTube.
When the reports of Rep. Gordon "you're f'kng dead" Heinz I had to take a wander over to DU and see their reaction.
Typical liberal claptrap, he was set up for "speaking truth to power" over "blowing the door open" on Walker's illegal activities or some such nonsense.
Not a word about his death threat as of yesterday although I'm sure if they do discuss it they will have some excuse for it. Probably Dick Cheney grabbed the mic and made the comments so some other excuse.
"The people in that video act just like Troglaman the Guttersnipe does on this blog...Until they are politically destroyed, this country is in BIG trouble." jammin jerry
Have there been any arrests in Madison, jerry?
Last I looked, both firemen and policemen were supporting the protesters. That's a fact.
So this stuff about union thugs and violence and stuff is utter bullshit once again...
Despite that, us liberal troglodytes must be "politically destroyed" because we're violent fucking thugs out to destroy everything.
There are already states that have outlawed collective bargaining, you stupid shit. Why don't you look up how well they're doing financially. What you'll find is they're sucking fumes. It's been tried before. And it didn't work. It. Did. Not. Work. I dare you to prove me wrong.
Once again, you prove yourself a useful idiot.
You're unequipped to handle democracy, jer. That's your problem.
"Last I looked, both firemen and policemen were supporting the protesters. That's a fact." - Troglaman The Hate-Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe
So? What difference does that make? So there are fireman and policemen who are just as stupid, dishonest and selfish as the rest of the Moonbat protesters...what's your point, Guttersnipe? If you expect that Moonbat fireman and cops joining the protesters efforts to demand the right to keep legally stealing Wisconsin taxpayer dollars makes their effort to intimidate the public into continuing to allow the thefts more legitimate, sorry, Guttersnipe, but no dice.
"So this stuff about union thugs and violence and stuff is utter bullshit once again..." - TROGLAMAN - The Sick Perverted Clone of William Rivers Pitt
Which is your way of saying you didn't watch the video because you had your head slammed too far up your ass. Sorry to hear that and thanks for letting us all know.
"....us liberal troglodytes must be "politically destroyed" because we're violent fucking thugs out to destroy everything." - Troglaman, the Hate-Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe
Exactly right, Guttersnipe.
"There are already states that have outlawed collective bargaining, you stupid shit. Why don't you look up how well they're doing financially. What you'll find is they're sucking fumes. It's been tried before. And it didn't work. It. Did. Not. Work. I dare you to prove me wrong." - Troglaman the Guttersnipe.
I say that statement is pure bullshit...in other words, you're a liar, Guttersnipe. Prove otherwise.
"Once again, you prove yourself a useful idiot.
You're unequipped to handle democracy, jer. That's your problem." - Troglaman The Guttersnipe (as he repeatedly power-slams his head up his ass)
Bluster don't cut it, Guttersnipe. You're a moral coward. You're scared to death of reality, so you keep slamming your head up your ass. I can tell by the ever-increasing levels of desperation in your emissions of howling mad bullshit you are scared to death as reality is slowly crushing your fantasy world. The only person on this blog (besides the KayInMaine Clone) that's unequipped to handle anything is you, Guttersnipe. You can't handle truth or reality. And it's slowly eating you up alive.
"Not a word about his death threat as of yesterday although I'm sure if they do discuss it they will have some excuse for it." tami
We'll all be breathlessly awaiting your update on the "death threat", tami. Why? Because you'll either be proven an idiot or a prophet. I'm betting on idiot. We'll see. You fuckers have the amazing ability to be wrong exponentially more often than every other person on the planet so I'm guessing I, the mighty trog, will end up looking good.
And I'm all about looking good (thanks to my inner homo).
"...there are fireman and policemen who are just as stupid, dishonest and selfish as the rest of the Moonbat protesters." jerome
Really?
I'm going to make an effort convey your message directly, jj. What's that thing called? Tweet? Twiddle? I'm sure the fireman and policemen in Madison will thank you for your support.
"There are already states that have outlawed collective bargaining..." Troggy, if you ever remove your head from your ass, the planet will be covered with a blanket of excrement 20 feet deep. No state has "outlawed collective bargaining." There are states that have enacted right-to-work statutes which prohibit forced unionization. That is not the same as outlawing collective bargaining. So, guttersnipe, either link or slink. Show us one of Obama's 57 states that have outlawed collective bargaining. You can't, can you? Because it hasn't happened.
"There are already states that have outlawed collective bargaining..." Troggy, if you ever remove your head from your ass, the planet will be covered with a blanket of excrement 20 feet deep. No state has "outlawed collective bargaining." There are states that have enacted right-to-work statutes which prohibit forced unionization. That is not the same as outlawing collective bargaining. So, guttersnipe, either link or slink. Show us one of Obama's 57 states that have outlawed collective bargaining. You can't, can you? Because it hasn't happened.
No state has "outlawed collective bargaining." troglanon
5 states do not have collective bargaining for educators and have deemed it illegal...Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia. And not only are their budgets in the red, but there's growing evidence their SAT's are tanking as well.
So once again, you fucking idiot, you're wrong.
Have any of you ever noticed, even though I point it out weekly, that you shitheads just make shit up at the drop of a hat? It's what I like most about you.
troglanon sounded pretty good for a second or two (and I-are-troglaman thinks he may have a few more cards up his sleeve). But at least for now, the mighty troglanon remains a mighty dumbshit.
Me make claims with nothing to prove it. That means me am brilliant. Me am brilliant so me not have to prove anything because I are smart. Because I are smart you am stupid.
I are fucking idiot just like Troglaman. Because I are brilliant you am stupid and cannot see me am fucking idiot just like Troglaman.
Me make stuff up because you am stupid because I are brilliant so you can never be gooder than I.
Me clone of Troglaman. Since me am mighty dumbshit Troglaman be mighty dumbshit because I are Troglaman.
5 states do not have collective bargaining for educators and have deemed it illegal...Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia. And not only are their budgets in the red, but there's growing evidence their SAT's are tanking as well. - trogladyte
So, they should institute the systems that Ohio and Wisconsin have and REALLY fuck their citizenry eh?
Evidently KayInMaine is tired of screwing around with Alan Grayson and is back with Troglaman. Her insane rant and Moonbat logic path are a perfect match to any that Guttersnipe has posted.
"So, they (the states that have outlawed collective bargaining) should institute the systems that Ohio and Wisconsin have and REALLY fuck their citizenry eh?" troglanon
So what happened to "No state has outlawed collective bargaining", troglanon? You were wrong, that's what happened, dipshit. Now you're compelled to move on to another idiotic argument - the current systems operating in Wisconsin and Ohio are fucking their citizenry.
Prove it. At least offer something other than your stupid pussy-assed opinion.
I'm guaranteeing you can't. What you'll do is call me names and/or move on to some OTHER super lame or super scary scenario that does nothing other than prove YOU to be a lame-assed super pussy.
You fuckers bring guns to demonstrations and threaten to use them. And you're all freaking out because of some (already debunked) story about a Fox reporter getting touched by a demonstrator in Madison. It's bullshit.
By the way...
How would you feel about the libs expressing their 2nd amendment rights by bringing their firearms to Madison? Think you could get behind that? Anything other than a 'yes' makes you a hypocrite.
Seems to work for you! How would you feel if we did it? Think you'd be all about the lib's constitutional rights to bear arms while occupying the Wisconsin's State Capital?
No...what you'd be doing is screeching and wailing and pissing your little girl pants. It's fine to holster-up and bring assault rifles to an Obama rally in Arizona but touching a Fox News jack-off in Wisconsin is WAAAAY out of bounds...
You're full of shit, troglanon. A penguin could see it. So fuck you AND your mother.
"We'll all be breathlessly awaiting your update on the "death threat", TAMI. Why? Because you'll either be proven an idiot or a prophet. I'm betting on idiot." the mighty trog
Update tami? Anything else to about the "death threat"...No?
Guess that proves you an idiot. I, troglaman, win.
I'd love it if liberals brought guns to demonstrations. The number of self-inflicted gunshot wounds would soar as the hapless dumbasses exercise their right to bear arms.
Troglaman complains: "What you'll do is call me names."
But troglaman calls us: "...dipshit...pussy-assed...lame assed super pussy...you fuckers...piss in your little girl pants...fuck you AND your mother."
Pot meets kettle as troglaman proves his inability to talk coherently and without resort to ad hominen attack. In that respect he's very much like his thuggish brothers in Madison.
Once again the left has been taken in by an Astroturf campaign designed to show how SAT/ACTS scores in states that allow Collective Bargaining increases student test scores. It seem the originator of the data comes from a Facebook posting and when looked at in detail the data is questionable at best, and downright garbage at best.
Unfortunately for Troggleman and other leftists who jumped on the SAT connection, even the left has had to admit the data used is bogus.
On Feb. 20, 2011, Angus Johnston, an adjunct assistant professor at the City University of New York, published a comprehensive analysis of this question on his blog. He published links to a chart that appears to have been the inspiration for the tweets and Facebook postings. It offers a state-by-state analysis of scores on the SAT and the ACT, the two leading college-admissions tests, assembled by University of Missouri law professor Douglas O. Linder.
Johnston is critical of Linder’s methodology for a variety of reasons, which he explains in more detail at http://studentactivism.net/2011/02/20/sat-act-unions/ but without even taking those concerns into account, we find the statistics unreliable. They were published in 1999, meaning that the statistics themselves are likely more than a dozen years old -- far too old to be presumed valid in 2011.
Though the Economist did note that drawing the conclusion that students did better as a direct result of the inclusion of collective bargaining rights for their teachers was tenuous, it suggested that arguing that doing away with those rights would lift student performance was rather absurd.
"... this doesn't show that collective bargaining makes school systems better. But it makes it pretty hard to argue the converse," the Economist wrote.
The problem with the stats? As PolitiFact discovered, the data came from 1999, not 2010. Moreover, a variety of factors account for test score results.
While the most recent data on SAT/ACT scores shows outcomes not altogether out of line with the 1999 figures -- with South Carolina scoring 49th on the 2010 SAT and 46th on the 2009 ACT, while Wisconsin ranked third and 13th, respectively -- the point remains that judgment is better withheld on what the scores say in regard to collective bargaining. Here's how PolitiFact put it: A review using current data finds that Wisconsin does perform better on test scores than the non-union states, but not as dramatically as suggested in the Facebook post. And there is at best limited evidence that unionization played a causal role in shaping differences in test scores.
And yes, even the AJC looked at these statistics and called them hogwash. More at the link of course.
Now Troggie, I know this will be a lot of reading for you and other leftists and may require the use of a dictionary and removing of heads from rear-ends to get through it, but for once in your life, stop being fooled by those with an agenda who will use unrelated statistics to prove their point.
"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" Often attributed to Mark Twain and others http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics
troglaman said... "So, they (the states that have outlawed collective bargaining) should institute the systems that Ohio and Wisconsin have and REALLY fuck their citizenry eh?" troglanon
So what happened to "No state has outlawed collective bargaining", troglanon? You were wrong, that's what happened, dipshit.
Troglaman agains proves what a stupid tool he is. His original claim was that some states had outlawed collective bargaining, without any qualifications. When called on this BS, his 'brilliant' rebuttal was that 5 states had outlawed collective bargaining for some public sector employees, not everyone, or even anywhere near a majority of workers, as original post claimed.
"Troglaman complains: "What you'll do is call me names." kat
Dear God! I, the mighty trog, am NOT complaining. I enjoy your name-calling mostly because that's when you're mostly funny AND I can call you names back! I can defile you as much as you defile me...win-win don't you think?
5 states do not have collective bargaining for educators and have deemed it illegal...Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia. And not only are their budgets in the red, but there's growing evidence their SAT's are tanking as well.
Bullshit. I actually live in Virginia, I know what my own state's laws are. It's a right-to-work state. Now if you're so stupid that you don't know what the difference is between right-to-work and outlawing something, well, I can't help you. Ignorance can be helped, but willful and deliberate stupidity can't be.
"Bullshit. I actually live in Virginia, I know what my own state's laws are."
Do you? Apparently not, lunkhead.
"2006 Virginia Code § 40.1-57.2 - Prohibition against collective bargaining: No state, county, municipal, or like governmental officer, agent or governing body is vested with or possesses any authority to recognize any labor union or other employee association as a bargaining agent of any public officers or employees, or to collectively bargain or enter into any collective bargaining contract with any such union or association or its agents with respect to any matter relating to them or their employment or service."
Has that law been changed, troglanon? Or are you just making shit up? Again.
"2006 Virginia Code § 40.1-57.2 - Prohibition against collective bargaining: No state, county, municipal, or like governmental officer, agent or governing body is vested with or possesses any authority to recognize any labor union or other employee association as a bargaining agent of any public officers or employees, or to collectively bargain or enter into any collective bargaining contract with any such union or association or its agents with respect to any matter relating to them or their employment or service."
That ought to be the law in every state in the Union. Once again, Guttersnipe, you've posted something that makes sense completely by accident.
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That was just shameful behavior. Democracy is not about being a bully until you get your way.
Also really offensive was
Rep. Gordon Hintz threatening Rep. Michelle Litjen on the floor Monday and telling her, "you're effin dead!"
Rep. Gordon Hintz is a real charmer who was recently cited at a massage parlor that was being targeted in a prostitution sting.
Meh.
Liberals being liberals.
The only trait of a liberal more defining than their immaturity is their hypocrisy.
To be a liberal is to live a life of projection. Every single thing they claim to hate and oppose is EXACTLY what they are.
Some of your liberal commenters here prove that point eloquently.
When the reports of Rep. Gordon "you're f'kng dead" Heinz I had to take a wander over to DU and see their reaction.
Typical liberal claptrap, he was set up for "speaking truth to power" over "blowing the door open" on Walker's illegal activities or some such nonsense.
Not a word about his death threat as of yesterday although I'm sure if they do discuss it they will have some excuse for it. Probably Dick Cheney grabbed the mic and made the comments so some other excuse.
The people in that video act just like Troglaman the Guttersnipe does on this blog.
Like I've said many times...the DSA is made of Moonbats and Troglaman Clones. Until they are politically destroyed, this country is in BIG trouble.
"The people in that video act just like Troglaman the Guttersnipe does on this blog...Until they are politically destroyed, this country is in BIG trouble." jammin jerry
Have there been any arrests in Madison, jerry?
Last I looked, both firemen and policemen were supporting the protesters. That's a fact.
So this stuff about union thugs and violence and stuff is utter bullshit once again...
Despite that, us liberal troglodytes must be "politically destroyed" because we're violent fucking thugs out to destroy everything.
There are already states that have outlawed collective bargaining, you stupid shit. Why don't you look up how well they're doing financially. What you'll find is they're sucking fumes. It's been tried before. And it didn't work. It. Did. Not. Work. I dare you to prove me wrong.
Once again, you prove yourself a useful idiot.
You're unequipped to handle democracy, jer. That's your problem.
"Last I looked, both firemen and policemen were supporting the protesters. That's a fact." - Troglaman The Hate-Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe
So? What difference does that make? So there are fireman and policemen who are just as stupid, dishonest and selfish as the rest of the Moonbat protesters...what's your point, Guttersnipe? If you expect that Moonbat fireman and cops joining the protesters efforts to demand the right to keep legally stealing Wisconsin taxpayer dollars makes their effort to intimidate the public into continuing to allow the thefts more legitimate, sorry, Guttersnipe, but no dice.
"So this stuff about union thugs and violence and stuff is utter bullshit once again..." - TROGLAMAN - The Sick Perverted Clone of William Rivers Pitt
Which is your way of saying you didn't watch the video because you had your head slammed too far up your ass. Sorry to hear that and thanks for letting us all know.
"....us liberal troglodytes must be "politically destroyed" because we're violent fucking thugs out to destroy everything." - Troglaman, the Hate-Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe
Exactly right, Guttersnipe.
"There are already states that have outlawed collective bargaining, you stupid shit. Why don't you look up how well they're doing financially. What you'll find is they're sucking fumes. It's been tried before. And it didn't work. It. Did. Not. Work. I dare you to prove me wrong." - Troglaman the Guttersnipe.
I say that statement is pure bullshit...in other words, you're a liar, Guttersnipe. Prove otherwise.
"Once again, you prove yourself a useful idiot.
You're unequipped to handle democracy, jer. That's your problem." - Troglaman The Guttersnipe (as he repeatedly power-slams his head up his ass)
Bluster don't cut it, Guttersnipe. You're a moral coward. You're scared to death of reality, so you keep slamming your head up your ass. I can tell by the ever-increasing levels of desperation in your emissions of howling mad bullshit you are scared to death as reality is slowly crushing your fantasy world. The only person on this blog (besides the KayInMaine Clone) that's unequipped to handle anything is you, Guttersnipe. You can't handle truth or reality. And it's slowly eating you up alive.
"Not a word about his death threat as of yesterday although I'm sure if they do discuss it they will have some excuse for it." tami
We'll all be breathlessly awaiting your update on the "death threat", tami. Why? Because you'll either be proven an idiot or a prophet. I'm betting on idiot. We'll see. You fuckers have the amazing ability to be wrong exponentially more often than every other person on the planet so I'm guessing I, the mighty trog, will end up looking good.
And I'm all about looking good (thanks to my inner homo).
"...there are fireman and policemen who are just as stupid, dishonest and selfish as the rest of the Moonbat protesters." jerome
Really?
I'm going to make an effort convey your message directly, jj. What's that thing called? Tweet? Twiddle? I'm sure the fireman and policemen in Madison will thank you for your support.
Dumbass.
"There are already states that have outlawed collective bargaining..."
Troggy, if you ever remove your head from your ass, the planet will be covered with a blanket of excrement 20 feet deep.
No state has "outlawed collective bargaining." There are states that have enacted right-to-work statutes which prohibit forced unionization. That is not the same as outlawing collective bargaining.
So, guttersnipe, either link or slink. Show us one of Obama's 57 states that have outlawed collective bargaining. You can't, can you? Because it hasn't happened.
"There are already states that have outlawed collective bargaining..."
Troggy, if you ever remove your head from your ass, the planet will be covered with a blanket of excrement 20 feet deep.
No state has "outlawed collective bargaining." There are states that have enacted right-to-work statutes which prohibit forced unionization. That is not the same as outlawing collective bargaining.
So, guttersnipe, either link or slink. Show us one of Obama's 57 states that have outlawed collective bargaining. You can't, can you? Because it hasn't happened.
Sorry for the double post, people.
I are Troglaman. Me am brilliant.
Collective bargaining is against the law in states that are screwed. Me say so, so it are true.
Me say so, it are true. You say no means you am dumbass because me am brilliant.
Me no back anything me say because me am brilliant, you am stupid.
I are Troglaman. Me am brilliant.
I are Troglaman. Me am brilliant.
No state has "outlawed collective bargaining." troglanon
5 states do not have collective bargaining for educators and have deemed it illegal...Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia. And not only are their budgets in the red, but there's growing evidence their SAT's are tanking as well.
So once again, you fucking idiot, you're wrong.
Have any of you ever noticed, even though I point it out weekly, that you shitheads just make shit up at the drop of a hat? It's what I like most about you.
troglanon sounded pretty good for a second or two (and I-are-troglaman thinks he may have a few more cards up his sleeve). But at least for now, the mighty troglanon remains a mighty dumbshit.
I are Troglaman. Me am brilliant.
Me make claims with nothing to prove it. That means me am brilliant. Me am brilliant so me not have to prove anything because I are smart. Because I are smart you am stupid.
I are fucking idiot just like Troglaman. Because I are brilliant you am stupid and cannot see me am fucking idiot just like Troglaman.
Me make stuff up because you am stupid because I are brilliant so you can never be gooder than I.
Me clone of Troglaman. Since me am mighty dumbshit Troglaman be mighty dumbshit because I are Troglaman.
I are Troglaman. Me am brilliant.
I are Troglaman. Me am brilliant.
Amazing...trogladyte is so stupid that when his clone agrees with him he calls him a liar and then cusses him out.
5 states do not have collective bargaining for educators and have deemed it illegal...Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia. And not only are their budgets in the red, but there's growing evidence their SAT's are tanking as well. - trogladyte
So, they should institute the systems that Ohio and Wisconsin have and REALLY fuck their citizenry eh?
You really are a dumbshit.
Who committed genocide? Hitler.
Who if given the chance would commit a massive genocide on his own people to strong arm his opposition on behalf of the wealthy corporations? Walker.
Who owned concentration camps and gas chambers? Hitler.
Who, if he had a concentration camp and a gas chamber at his disposal, would use them on all brown people? Walker.*SPIT*
http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2011/03/04/wha-we-cant-use-any-reference-to-hitler-when-talking-about-scott-walkers-tactics-against-the-middle-classunions/
Hey, trog-mun.
Can you name any state that has a budget surplus?
Evidently KayInMaine is tired of screwing around with Alan Grayson and is back with Troglaman. Her insane rant and Moonbat logic path are a perfect match to any that Guttersnipe has posted.
"So, they (the states that have outlawed collective bargaining) should institute the systems that Ohio and Wisconsin have and REALLY fuck their citizenry eh?" troglanon
So what happened to "No state has outlawed collective bargaining", troglanon? You were wrong, that's what happened, dipshit. Now you're compelled to move on to another idiotic argument - the current systems operating in Wisconsin and Ohio are fucking their citizenry.
Prove it. At least offer something other than your stupid pussy-assed opinion.
I'm guaranteeing you can't. What you'll do is call me names and/or move on to some OTHER super lame or super scary scenario that does nothing other than prove YOU to be a lame-assed super pussy.
You fuckers bring guns to demonstrations and threaten to use them. And you're all freaking out because of some (already debunked) story about a Fox reporter getting touched by a demonstrator in Madison. It's bullshit.
By the way...
How would you feel about the libs expressing their 2nd amendment rights by bringing their firearms to Madison? Think you could get behind that? Anything other than a 'yes' makes you a hypocrite.
Seems to work for you! How would you feel if we did it? Think you'd be all about the lib's constitutional rights to bear arms while occupying the Wisconsin's State Capital?
No...what you'd be doing is screeching and wailing and pissing your little girl pants. It's fine to holster-up and bring assault rifles to an Obama rally in Arizona but touching a Fox News jack-off in Wisconsin is WAAAAY out of bounds...
You're full of shit, troglanon. A penguin could see it. So fuck you AND your mother.
"We'll all be breathlessly awaiting your update on the "death threat", TAMI. Why? Because you'll either be proven an idiot or a prophet. I'm betting on idiot." the mighty trog
Update tami? Anything else to about the "death threat"...No?
Guess that proves you an idiot. I, troglaman, win.
troglaman,
I'd love it if liberals brought guns to demonstrations. The number of self-inflicted gunshot wounds would soar as the hapless dumbasses exercise their right to bear arms.
Time for you to lock and load.
P.S.
Unarmed Tea Party volunteers arrived in Madison today to help clean up the mess left by the dirty, maggot infested hippies and their thuggish allies.
Hey troggy, make yourself useful, pick up a broom, you can still wear a pistol.
Troglaman complains: "What you'll do is call me names."
But troglaman calls us: "...dipshit...pussy-assed...lame assed super pussy...you fuckers...piss in your little girl pants...fuck you AND your mother."
Pot meets kettle as troglaman proves his inability to talk coherently and without resort to ad hominen attack. In that respect he's very much like his thuggish brothers in Madison.
Prove me wrong, asshole.
This should set trogladyte brain into vapor lock...
http://educationnext.org/are-wisconsin-schools-better-than-those-in-texas/
Sit on that and spin trog, you dipshit.
Once again the left has been taken in by an Astroturf campaign designed to show how SAT/ACTS scores in states that allow Collective Bargaining increases student test scores. It seem the originator of the data comes from a Facebook posting and when looked at in detail the data is questionable at best, and downright garbage at best.
Unfortunately for Troggleman and other leftists who jumped on the SAT connection, even the left has had to admit the data used is bogus.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/feb/23/state-democratic-party-wisconsin/labor-union-supporters-say-wisconsin-test-scores-v/
On Feb. 20, 2011, Angus Johnston, an adjunct assistant professor at the City University of New York, published a comprehensive analysis of this question on his blog. He published links to a chart that appears to have been the inspiration for the tweets and Facebook postings. It offers a state-by-state analysis of scores on the SAT and the ACT, the two leading college-admissions tests, assembled by University of Missouri law professor Douglas O. Linder.
Johnston is critical of Linder’s methodology for a variety of reasons, which he explains in more detail at http://studentactivism.net/2011/02/20/sat-act-unions/ but without even taking those concerns into account, we find the statistics unreliable. They were published in 1999, meaning that the statistics themselves are likely more than a dozen years old -- far too old to be presumed valid in 2011.
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/24/collective-bargaining-do-sat-scores-prove-states-need-it/
Though the Economist did note that drawing the conclusion that students did better as a direct result of the inclusion of collective bargaining rights for their teachers was tenuous, it suggested that arguing that doing away with those rights would lift student performance was rather absurd.
"... this doesn't show that collective bargaining makes school systems better. But it makes it pretty hard to argue the converse," the Economist wrote.
The problem with the stats? As PolitiFact discovered, the data came from 1999, not 2010. Moreover, a variety of factors account for test score results.
While the most recent data on SAT/ACT scores shows outcomes not altogether out of line with the 1999 figures -- with South Carolina scoring 49th on the 2010 SAT and 46th on the 2009 ACT, while Wisconsin ranked third and 13th, respectively -- the point remains that judgment is better withheld on what the scores say in regard to collective bargaining. Here's how PolitiFact put it: A review using current data finds that Wisconsin does perform better on test scores than the non-union states, but not as dramatically as suggested in the Facebook post. And there is at best limited evidence that unionization played a causal role in shaping differences in test scores.
http://blogs.ajc.com/kyle-wingfield/2011/03/03/do-unionized-teachers-really-produce-better-results/?cxntfid=blogs_kyle_wingfield
And yes, even the AJC looked at these statistics and called them hogwash. More at the link of course.
Now Troggie, I know this will be a lot of reading for you and other leftists and may require the use of a dictionary and removing of heads from rear-ends to get through it, but for once in your life, stop being fooled by those with an agenda who will use unrelated statistics to prove their point.
"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" Often attributed to Mark Twain and others http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics
troglaman said...
"So, they (the states that have outlawed collective bargaining) should institute the systems that Ohio and Wisconsin have and REALLY fuck their citizenry eh?" troglanon
So what happened to "No state has outlawed collective bargaining", troglanon? You were wrong, that's what happened, dipshit.
Troglaman agains proves what a stupid tool he is. His original claim was that some states had outlawed collective bargaining, without any qualifications. When called on this BS, his 'brilliant' rebuttal was that 5 states had outlawed collective bargaining for some public sector employees, not everyone, or even anywhere near a majority of workers, as original post claimed.
Troggie - failthink meets failwrite.
"Troglaman complains: "What you'll do is call me names." kat
Dear God! I, the mighty trog, am NOT complaining. I enjoy your name-calling mostly because that's when you're mostly funny AND I can call you names back! I can defile you as much as you defile me...win-win don't you think?
Any updates about the death threat, tami? I don't think you addressed this question during your lengthy diatribe.
Remember: No death threats = dumbshit = tami.
"don't you think?"-troglaman
Someone has to. You're clearly not doing your part.
5 states do not have collective bargaining for educators and have deemed it illegal...Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia. And not only are their budgets in the red, but there's growing evidence their SAT's are tanking as well.
Bullshit. I actually live in Virginia, I know what my own state's laws are. It's a right-to-work state. Now if you're so stupid that you don't know what the difference is between right-to-work and outlawing something, well, I can't help you. Ignorance can be helped, but willful and deliberate stupidity can't be.
"Bullshit. I actually live in Virginia, I know what my own state's laws are."
Do you? Apparently not, lunkhead.
"2006 Virginia Code § 40.1-57.2 - Prohibition against collective bargaining: No state, county, municipal, or like governmental officer, agent or governing body is vested with or possesses any authority to recognize any labor union or other employee association as a bargaining agent of any public officers or employees, or to collectively bargain or enter into any collective bargaining contract with any such union or association or its agents with respect to any matter relating to them or their employment or service."
Has that law been changed, troglanon? Or are you just making shit up? Again.
"2006 Virginia Code § 40.1-57.2 - Prohibition against collective bargaining: No state, county, municipal, or like governmental officer, agent or governing body is vested with or possesses any authority to recognize any labor union or other employee association as a bargaining agent of any public officers or employees, or to collectively bargain or enter into any collective bargaining contract with any such union or association or its agents with respect to any matter relating to them or their employment or service."
That ought to be the law in every state in the Union. Once again, Guttersnipe, you've posted something that makes sense completely by accident.
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