"We have ONE year.. ONE election"
Remember all the propaganda we were fed about how Global Warming is a non-partisan issue? Well, it turns out it was all hogwash. No big surprise there. The Left is now enlisting Global Warming alarmism on a big scale to help get Barack Obama elected as you can see in this KOmmie THREAD titled, "Hansen on Global Warming: We have ONE year.. ONE election." Yes, me must elect Obama or it will be the END OF THE WORLD!!! It turns out that James Hansen has been making Global Warming alarmist WARNINGS for at least 20 years. In 1988 he predicted severe dought was coming to the midwest. Five years later, in 1993, the Midwest experienced extreme flooding. Also check out the current flooding in the Midwest to see just how accurate Hansen has been in his predictions. One might as well consult Jean Dixon in predicting climate change. However, the KOmmies turn to Hansen as some sort of prophet to help them elect their beloved Obama. So let us now watch the KOmmies play the Global Warming Alarmist card in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that the weatherman is lucky if he can predict the weather correctly just 3 days in advance, is in the [barackets]:
Hansen on Global Warming: We have ONE year.. ONE election
[Or your KOmmie brains will fry.]
In 2006, the great climate scientist James Hansen famously said
[Something as "accurate" as his prediction about Midwest drought?]
"I think we have a very brief window of opportunity to deal with climate change ... no longer than a decade, at the most."
[He needs that same script for use in 2016.]
Since then, things have gotten much, much worse. The Arctic ice is melting faster than expected. CO2 emissions are accelerating. Global warming is accelerating.
[Don't forget about that drought in the Midwest.]
Hansen no longer stands by his estimate that we have one decade to turn things around. He now thinks that was too optimistic. Today, James Hansen told congress that we have one year.
[Translation: Elect Barack Obama or we all DIE!!!]
We have one year. One election.
[Elect Obama. Elect Obama. ELECT OBAMA!!!]
And simply winning is not enough.. we will need radical changes in policy.
[TRANSLATION: We need Global Warming as an excuse to institute socialism.]
And if we lose...
[You will be joining the Heavens Gate cult aboard the Mother Ship. And now to the rest of the KOmmies...]
Most coverage has focussed on his statement that oil CEOs should be prosecuted. This is interesting, but I think misses the point of his testimony.
[Thanx for that confirmation that Hansen is indeed a leftwing loon.]
It's time to stop Climaticide and that means working for justice as well as having the right policies. Without justice there will be cynicism and cynicism plays into the hands of the denialists and the tactics of disinformation.
[LOL! "Climaticide." I definitely have to file that word away with "Freudenschade."]
The warming of the Arctic is beginning to look irreversible. There are positive feedbacks that are amplifying inputs. Sea ice melting is causing more warming and more warm Atlantic water flowing into the Arctic.
[Gee! Then how is it that we can still watch Ice Road Truckers who drive right over the frozen Arctic ocean?]
Republican ideology will block any meaningful. Climate related reform into the foreseeable future. We all might as well accept extinction because nothing will change in the USA in terms of politics. The only conceivable circumstance that might avoid extinction of humanity is if the oil economy suffers catastrophic and irreversible loss. Which, given Republican Rapturist ideology, is always possible via warmongering, most likely Iran. Even the complete melting of Greenland won't stop the greed and selfishness of Republicans.
[EVIL Republicans!!! It's all their fault! So much for that hype about Global Warming being a non-partisan issue.]
He seems to be mixing a bunch of stuff. One moment, it is "99% certain." The next he's saying there will be 2-meter sea level rise this century, which is certanly not in IPCC projections.
[Don't stop Hansen. He's on a roll.]
Considering that we will not take power for 7 more months - we have a little problem here.
[Which will pale in comparison to the HUGE mental problem you will have in 7 months if you do NOT take power.]
Hansen's superlative reputation makes his increasingly edgy statements deeply disturbing.
[Yeah. I found his statements about Midwest drought deeply disturbing.]
For a bunch of fear-based weenies, I don't understand why the deniers aren't more scared, really.
[I'm sooooo frightened about Hansen's incredibly accurate predictions about drought in the Midwest.]
When they try to argue that climate scientists are "bought off" by the environmental lobby. Like there's big, big money in environmentalism. These guys are geniuses.
[Al Gore seems to be making a pretty penny in selling Carbon Credit indulgences.]
Also accept the fact that this century will see a human dieoff to the tune of about three billion excess deaths. The best we can do at this point is preserve accumulated knowledge and the values that go along with reducing rather than increasing violence over time. What we're headed for is a centuries-long dark age driven by the consequences of overshoot & collapse. There will be places that manage to preserve knowledge and an enlightened culture, but these will be relatively few and far between. You want to be in one of those places. Ideally a town with a small university, farming capabilities nearby, minimal risk of town-wrecking disasters such as tornados and earthquakes, and relative climate stability. Or sacrifice the "university" criterion and search based on the rest of those, looking for a healthy local economy with a mix of practical skills. Finding those places is difficult but that's what you need to do.
[I'm already picturing leftwing monks in small universities preserving our knowledge and culture on scrolls as, outside, rightwing yahoo redneck barbarians destroy civilization in their pickup trucks.]
If Obama loses the election say goodbye to Florida, NYC and any other coastal area.
[Bye-bye!]
I am sorting out what I think about Obama coming out today in support of corn ethanol. I was a little surprised, knowing that we have discussed here the disadvantages of using corn for fuel vs food.
[Just dump that contradiction down the Memory Hole.]
You might want to repeatedly view some Holocaust pics just for the exercise. To get you toughened up. Anybody under the age of 45 is going to see things before they die that will make them sorry they're not 75 today.
[Nobody is stopping you from entering the Mother Ship right now.]
I'm no skeptic. I'm a physicist trained in meteorology. I agree with much of what is written or quoted above but what Hansen has said and will say is mostly political rhetoric not scientific consensus.
[HERETIC!!!]
I've been beseeching my parents to stockpile food for the last year, but they're generally dismissive of my concerns. What are the rest of you doing?
[Stockpiling DiGiorno pizzas.]
Anybody Have a Ranch In Paraguay that they can sell me?
[No but I have a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you.]
I'm just glad I don't have any kids, so I won't have to look them in the eye when it finally hits home to people just how screwed we are and they start looking at those of my age and older and ask. "You knew! You saw this coming, and you did nothing! Why?"
[WHEW! Thank God you didn't reproduce!]
posted by PJ-Comix at 7:24 AM
37 Comments:
Yes, let's destroy this nation based on the nonsensicle ravings of a biased, lunatic "scientist".
Geeez.
"I'm just glad I don't have any kids"
Then we're in agreement.
"If Obama loses the election say goodbye to Florida, NYC and any other coastal area."
Still writing off Florida, eh?
"Considering that we will not take power for 7 more months - we have a little problem here."
That's FUnny, I thought that the Dem's have been in control of Congress since 2006? Are you telling me that it's the DEMOCRATS that's causing the problem? Whodathunkit?
"You want to be in one of those places. Ideally a town with a small university, farming capabilities nearby, minimal risk of town-wrecking disasters such as tornados and earthquakes, and relative climate stability."
Too bad those areas are all located in conservative counties. You know, were all those bitter white people cling to their guns and religion and are afraid of outsiders. It looks like you liberals are SCREWED!
Anybody hear laughter? I do.. It's P.T. Barnum, laughing at all these suckers who are buying into this 'Climaticide' hype.
Someone please tell me exactly WHAT the temp is 'supposed' to be?
The climate on this planet has changed so many times in just the past 10-20,000 years, going from warm and cold extremes.
As it has for quite literally millions of years. All BEFORE the advent of humans and the industrial age.
This isn't the first time in just recorded history that the artic sea ice has melted. Does anyone remember the Vikings and places like GREENland? It didn't get that name because of ice... LOL
Meanwhile, ANTarctic sea ice is now at record levels.
Meanwhile, the so called warming over the past few years has all but been wiped out by this past year not to mention the fact that the deep sea probes that have been deployed to measure ocean temps are all show ZERO increase in temp. In fact, there's a SLIGHT decrease.
What a BUNCH of maroons...
"Climaticide" what a wonderful neologism and it's capitalized too which make it an even more heinous crime. You don't want to be convicted of Climaticide.
Thank Gaia for legal and safe abortion, it keeps these loons from multiplying beyond the nation's mental institutions ability to house them.
We have ONE year...ONE election."
I've been hearing that shit since 1972, the eco-apocalypse is always one year and/or one election away.
OW!! I think I just got hit by a chunk of falling sky!!! Were Doomed!! Quick everbody open their refrigerators and cool the planet. Only breathe every 30 seconds to cut down on CO2. Farting and burping are verboten. Death to SUV owners and red meat eaters. Sing Kumbaya and think of puppies and unicorns or We're Doomed!!
PS: If the Artic is melting so bad how come "Ice Road Truckers" is still on TV?? Shouldn't it be "Ice Road Boaters" by now?? How come nobody blames the Sun for this?? I'm tired of getting blamed for what the Sun is doing.
"For a bunch of fear based weenies, I don't understand why the deniers aren't more scared, really."
Who's fear based, you imbecile. Goddam, there's not enough Kool-Aid in the world to quench the thirst of these moonbats. I've seen more sense in a headless chicken or Maxine Waters.
THE END IS NIGH!!!
Hoo, excuse me. I got caught up in all of the secular Rapture talk.
Who the henweigh are these people? Granted I live in a 'red state' but even in Austin I don't run into these types of people.
If I could find them, the doomsday 'sandwich board' business would be the way to go. I'd clean up. I mean, these people have money to buy computers then they have money to buy my "Doomsyday Message Board Kit" only $39.95. I could even say it's recycleable as a hook.
None of you are going to steal my idea are you?
The Left is now enlisting Global Warming alarmism on a big scale to help get Barack Obama elected as you can see in this KOmmie THREAD titled, "Hansen on Global Warming: We have ONE year.. ONE election." Yes, me must elect Obama or it will be the END OF THE WORLD!!! PJ
And this is to get Obama elected. Well, isn't McCain ringing the climate change alarm bell too? Or am I just dreaming you dumbshits.
"On Monday, John McCain delivered a big speech, one that outlined his position on and plan to deal with global warming.'
"Whether we call it "climate change" or "global warming," in the end we're all left with the same set of facts. The facts of global warming demand our urgent attention, especially in Washington. Good stewardship, prudence and simple common sense demand that we to act meet the challenge, and act quickly..." J Sidney McCain
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/05/12/mccain_warming/
McCain must be trying to get Obama elected too!!! Run for your lives!!!
There are those among us (that'd be you bunch of lemmings) that view global warming and climate change as a 'mindset'. A belief. Same thing with evolution. You think it's a 'following' of some sinister kind. A science siren. 2 plus 2 equals the devil's work. I, troglaman, wonder what sort of mind could come up with such an idea. I think we all know the answer to that question
Um anon, McCain also supports drilling offshore.
Ooops file under: Blowback, Unintended Consequences.
Biofuels drag 30 million into poverty.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7472532.stm
Biofuels like The Wooden One Al Gore cast the tie breaking vote for gov't mandates to use corn for fuel.
FYI (even as one of your fellow dummies pointed out) it's never a good idea to burn your food supply for fuel.
Hey Trogs.. No one is suprised a liberal like John McCain beleives in Man Made Global warming. But just because both idiots running for president think were warming the globe, dosen't make it consensus. The mindset you reference is quite false. Most of us believe the Earf is warming, but that its a 'natural' cycle that has more to do with the Sun and natural factors, then SUV's and greedy Capitalists. Greenland was called Greenland because it was once warm enough to farm on, now its too cold. So if the Earth was much warmer in the past, and we thrived, how is this warming cycle any different??
We don't think the sky is falling, and the world will end if Obama dosen't get elected. According to the posts of some of your fellow moonbats, they apparently do. Following the predictions of a guy whose less accurate then tabloid Psychic is just asking to be ridiculed. If some one sends me a chunk of fallen sky, I'll reconsider the moonbat junk science on the issue.
"...Greenland was called Greenland because it was once warm enough to farm on..."
I thought the vikings named it greenland to fool the dumbshits who wanted to spoil their paradise in iceland.
It's truly amazing how nihilistic "progressives" are and always have been. They hate Man and Life and would like nothing better than for all people to commit suicide. They seem to hate Man, because survival requires acknowledging the supremacy of the mind and reason and they're too damn lazy and brainwashed to develop their minds.
They firmly believe that mere existence entitles them to survival with no effort on their part required. ("I didn't ask to be born! Somebody forced Life on me, so it's up to Somebody to keep me alive, damnit!")
Well, they need to get the message: There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.
It is absolutely hilarious that the KOmmie is the one calling US fear based weenies, when that entire thread was all about spreading fear and paranoia of what they see as the coming secular apocalypse. Project much?
Plus, as many of you here have pointed out, reports of the Arctic ice levels plummeting have been exaggerated.
btw, on a related topic, remember how Leonardo DiCraprio tried to follow on Al Gore's success by making his own preachy global warming documentary "The 11th Hour," that bombed miserably in the box office? Well, I was in a Borders recently (Keep in mind that Borders, like most bookstores that also sell DVDs, sells its DVDs for much higher prices than say Target or Circuit City), and they were selling the '11th Hour' DVD for just about $4.99! And it was a fairly recent film!
Well, I guess they can't give them away.
I am far more disturbed by the self-lubricating histrionics displayed on this, and many other topics.
Dammit, not everything calls for weeping, wailing, gnashing of teeth and rending of garments! Ya pack of drama queens, tone it down to less than hysterical pack mentality, and someone might listen!
It is doubly troubling because there are enough loose screws out there who might actually bring others to harm, blowing up power plants or otherwise causing mayhem in the name of "saving the planet". Egging them on is a colossal mistake.
Speaking of Progressives (he ineptly segued), why do those who call themselves progressive want us to return to the stone age, or even to the time when humans didn't exist?
That's not progressive. That's regressive.
"We don't think the sky is falling, and the world will end if Obama doesn't get elected." skully
Your candidate does according to PJ's logic. Simple as that.
"It is absolutely hilarious that the KOmmie is the one calling US fear based weenies, when that entire thread was all about spreading fear and paranoia of what they see as the coming secular apocalypse. Project much?" anon the terrible
The coming "secular apocalypse"? Yes, great framing. God has nothing to do with it. Gore does. Project much, anon?
Dammit, not everything calls for weeping, wailing, gnashing of teeth and rending of garments! Ya pack of drama queens
This is doubly amusing because thats exactly what I call my moonbat MALE cousins.
"The coming "secular apocalypse"? Yes, great framing. God has nothing to do with it. Gore does. Project much, anon?"
I was making fun of them, and how they all feel the end of the world is coming, I used the term 'Secular apocalypse' because the term 'Apocalypse' by itself tends to be strongly associated with the Bible, and the majority of the KOmmies are scared of anything remotely Christian in nature, so they'd try to frame what they'd see as the end of the world in secular terms.
"There are those among us (that'd be you bunch of lemmings) that view global warming and climate change as a 'mindset'."
And there are those among us (you know, us lemmings) that believe that "global warming" and "climate change" is a natural phenomena that has existed since the earth was formed and there's nothing we petty humans can do to sop it or even moderate it in the slightest.
No amount of wailing, no amount of blustering, and no amount of wishful thinking is going to stop a natural process that has existed for billions of year and that has seen the rise and fall of countless species throughout history.
Humans are not gods no matter how much we like to think otherwise and we have absolutely no control over the cosmos. That includes Barrack Obama. So why are so many people pinning their hopes that yet another false god like Obama is going to save them from the natural processes of life on earth? That's a foolish and nonsensical belief, is it not? Yet millions of people believe that Obama, and the other liberals, are going to save us from nature if only we believe.
So, you tell me, who are the TRUE lemmings? Those that reject the prospect that we can be "saved" by Obama (or anyone else for that matter) or those that truly believe that Obama is our only hope for the future of mankind?
The DUmmies, who are always mocking the gullibility and hysteria of the fundies, find themselves babbling end of the world claptrap like any Buncombe County Bible thumper. The only difference being they'll be done in by "Climaticide" rather than the Rapture. It's the Church of Algore vs the Church of Pat Robertson.
The sad thing is that Captain Whacky has swallowed the global warming kool aid along with No Middle Name and, no matter which charlatan gets elected, Americans will pay the price with higher taxes, fewer jobs and limited choices.
"...Humans are not gods no matter how much we like to think otherwise and we have absolutely no control over the cosmos..." - ray
Not gods, but certainly capable of controlling Nature.
"He who would control Nature must first obey her." - Francis Bacon
In other words, Man alone is capable of figuring out "the rules" and exploiting them to his advantage. All the technology around you is proof of that fact.
"I've been beseeching my parents to stockpile food ..."
Still living in Mom's basement, eh? Why don't *you* stockpile food? No job? Or flippping burgers part-time? Is this not a perfect example of Dummie thought? "Wah!! I'm scared!! Somebody do something to save me!"
Also, that idiot that wants to move to someplace with "farming capabilities nearby" -- How much, exactly, do you know about subsistence farming? Do you know how to preserve both crops and seeds? Can you slaughter and butcher an animal? If not (and I'm guessing you don't), what, precisely, do you bring to the situation that would make someone who does know these things (like me) want to provide food for you? Also, you'd better be armed, know how to use those arms, and be very willing to do so. No one who can't help protect the community in a very real way would be allowed to stay. Your degree in 'Peace Studies' or 'Feminist Studies' or 'Cultural Studies' is not gonna cut it.
I'm guessing that should push come to shove you'll lay your sorry ass down and die.
"...term 'Apocalypse' by itself tends to be strongly associated with the Bible, and the majority of the KOmmies are scared of anything remotely Christian in nature" anon
WTF? That's the point, dumbass. Do you actually think you're fooling anyone? Do you think that pulling out the term "Apocalypse" will send KOmmies running because it's "Christian in nature"?
The bigger question is why you don't know you're insane. But then, how could you?
I hope I haven't upset you.
"Not gods, but certainly capable of controlling Nature." john galt
Wait just one damn minute here.
This is a pretty broad friggin statement. Are we in control of earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, volcanoes, meteors and comets?
Yes, says Mr Galt. Because we're "...certainly capable of controlling nature." Right.
"I'm guessing that should push come to shove you'll lay your sorry ass down and die." dave
No, dave. We, the troglapeople, can become suicidal bombers too. Tell us what to do. You have a compound? We'd love to come and visit. At least to wash our skins get a hot meal. That'd mean a lot. Then a few of us can go blow themselves up.
"...Are we in control of earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, volcanoes, meteors and comets?..."
Not yet.
People couldn't imagine us manipulating atoms and electrons as recently as 50 years ago. 150 years ago people were saying: "If God intended Man to fly he would have given him wings."
Note that I carefully and correctly used the words "capable of."
No, dave. We, the troglapeople, can become suicidal bombers too. Tell us what to do. You have a compound? We'd love to come and visit. At least to wash our skins get a hot meal. That'd mean a lot. Then a few of us can go blow themselves up.
No doubt dickweed.
And you would very quickly find out what the meaning of "screaming in pain" really means.
Come on. PLEEEASE start "La Revolucion". Pretty pretty please.
"Come on. PLEEEASE start "La Revolucion". Pretty pretty please." sham
Whatever happened to "Allahu Akbar"? You DO have a compound, don't you sham? And armed to the teeth to boot, I'll bet. Idaho? Colorado? Texas? Utah? Do you have an opinion regarding the virtues of having multiple wives? I'll bet you do, you rascal.
"Screaming in pain". Soooo scary. And clearly psychotic. Keep it up.
"...Are we in control of earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, volcanoes, meteors and comets?..." the brilliant and bubbly troglaman
"Not yet." john galt
Well then. I guess saying "(We're) Not gods, but certainly capable of controlling Nature," isn't true yet. Maybe you could clarify things by explaining the difference between Nature and the Gods?
"People couldn't imagine us manipulating atoms and electrons as recently as 50 years ago. 150 years ago people were saying: "If God intended Man to fly he would have given him wings." john galt
I'm glad you brought this up. I, troglaman, have often been assailed on this site for promoting science and pointing out the absurdity blind religious God stuff.
So why aren't you getting a whole apeload of shit, Mr. galt?
Trogtwat, you are one obnoxious asshole. Everything you have said thus far is hysterical and unsubstantiated bullshit, and I don't even need to go out of my way to prove it. Anyone with half a brain can see how stupid everything you say is.
So keep making your worthless, shit eating party look stupid. I can't wait to read your hysterical bullshit once your anointed Messiah loses miserably in November, and he WILL lose miserably because nobody in the US wants to live in a socialist hellhole.
Oh, and I still notice you don't use your actual name, trogtwat. Are you so retarded that you can't even click on the 'Name/URL' radio button and type your stupid name? You need to remove yourself from the gene pool STAT.
My guess is that Trogtwat's bomb-making skills are on par with Bill Ayers buddies'. I'll worry about him coming to my compound (well, there's a sort of half-assed barb wire fence around the barn on the family are, if that counts) just as soon as he proves he can fight his way through the pizza boxes that stand between him and the stairs up to Mom's kitchen.
As we used to say, I'll bet his shoes smell funny.
"Trogtwat, you are one obnoxious asshole. Everything you have said thus far is hysterical and unsubstantiated bullshit." manbearpig
Just one hysterical, unsubstantiated thing, my Neanderthal friend. Just one. Show me. And thanks for the Name/URL update. It didn't work for a while.
Yes Dave, my shoes smell funny. What of it?
"...Maybe you could clarify things by explaining the difference between Nature and the Gods?..."
God(s) is/are the mystical, mythical, imaginary being(s) invented by witch doctors to help them gain and maintain control of people.
Nature is the generic name for Reality. It is the nature of Nature that science discovers. :)
You're still not getting any crap, Mr. Galt. This hurts me. Maybe you could help me with my delivery.
t-man
Read Ayn Rand's non-fiction. Here's a special deal on some of her stuff.
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"Read Ayn Rand's non-fiction." Mr. Galt
Already have. Situational ethics anyone?
I would think Rand's position would be a hard sell to conservatives who believe in an unwavering moral core. Do I have this right?
How do you get situational ethics out of Rand's writing? Her rejection of altruism does not mean a rejection of ethics or require adapting ethics to changing situations.
Her morality is based on reason, purpose, and self-esteem versus the self-loathing, self-destruction and parasitism on others resulting from altruism.
Go back and read "Philosophy: Who Needs It?," t-man. I think you need it.
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