"Am I the only DUer who sees socialism as the only viable future?"
Most Democrats are really nothing but a bunch of socialists... Wait a minute, PJ, aren't you casting a vicious right-wing slur upon the Democrats? Actually, no. The fact is if you took a private poll of most delegates to next summer's Democrat National Convention, and ask them which system is preferrable, capitalism or socialism, the vast majority would either give you the chicken answer of neither or flat out admit that they think socialism is preferrable. In DUmmieland itself the same poll would show that at least 75% would prefer socialism and that might even be an underestimate. It is really no big secret about the DUmmie love affair with socialism. They flat out admit it as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD titled, "Am I the only DUer who sees socialism as the only viable future?" Actually that is a pretty silly question since the answer is so obvious. It is the equivalent of asking, "Am I the only frat brother who digs hot chicks and cold beer?" So let us now watch the DUmmies express their overwhelming love for socialism in Bolshevik/Socialist Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that the Evil Empire called itself the Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics, is in the [brackets]:
Am I the only DUer who sees socialism as the only viable future?
[Fear not, DUmmie. You are NOT alone.]
The battle I see in front of us is larger than the minor disputes between Keynesian and Austrian schools of thought. I'm sick of watching politicians and capitalists continually screwing over the little person. I'm sick of watching humans squabble over not getting the newest mp3 player while more than half the world population struggles for a living.
[The socialist solution is to lower our standard of living so some of the world's peasants can have access to those mp3 players.]
The Right-Wing has succeeded in purging the Left from mainstream politics, but like hope, socialism can never die. The desire to have a world free of masters where the economy operates on a heart rather than greed is a continuity over time. No matter how many laws are implemented, no matter how many unions are busted, no matter how many protesters are shot at, no matter how many media stations are bought off, no matter how many periods of intense propaganda consume our culture -- socialism will emerge victorious.
[Socialismo o Muerte!]
The socialism I talk of is the honest-to-goodness socialism geniuses like Eugene Debs and Martin Luther King Jr. fought for. Not social democracy. Not Stalinism. I'm talking of wiping out capitalism completely, and with it the state. I'm talking about voluntary associations of people based on democracy and self-autonomy. I'm talking about a world where the 30% of the work force currently holding jobs to protect capitalism are freed to do other, more productive things. I'm talking about automating industries that humans generally tend to shy away from. I'm talking about eliminating the plight of crime, corruption, prostitution, gambling, and sexism by making capital obsolete. I'm talking about allocating resources to the betterment of humanity instead of war and legal paperwork.
[The usual line from the socialists. Stalinism (or Maoism) was merely an aberration but we can really make socialism work...finally. Notice that oil rich Venezuela currently has the shelves of its food stores empty of food. All because of Hugo Chavez's "Bolivaran" socialism. Yes, DUmmie, someday maybe socialism can work...but only in an alternate dimension.]
These ideas are called pure utopian by many, but are they really? 200 years ago conservatives in Europe called the concept of liberalism "utopian." It continually failed to be implemented properly. Many monarchists claimed the masses were too ignorant to decide so much. We needed kings and queens and aristocrats.
[Who you want to replace with dictators and commissars.]
I say we don't need capitalists and representatives. We need only ourselves. People don't need to be forced to do anything. A culture of cooperation will always defeat a culture of backstabbing and competition.
[Representative democracy? Eh, who needs it? It can replaced with socialism in which the moral purity of the people can be depended on to prevent a Stalin or a Mao or a Li'l Kim or a Castro or a Chavez or a...]
I wonder if we're mature enough for true socialism ...as a race of beings. Human greed and hate always seems to creep in and undermine things.
[We are not WORTHY!!!]
Killing capitalism may sound impossible, but we ALL can kill our blind consumerism and guess what... The power of the purse.
[Not One Damn Dime Day.]
If we're to survive then a shift to socialist values will have to occur. I think there's the potential for this as people by nature are social animals and tend towards progressive ideals; they want what's best for themselves and their families, and divisive, regressive government schemes don't deliver. The obstacle to that is those who hold the power.
[A DUmmie proposes Bolshevik Revolution. Send out the flying Chekha squads!]
Without any competition, I think we'd lose a lot of innovation. How to reward innovation while maintaining fairness for all is the problem. But, judging from all the political tests I have taken, I am basically a socialist.
[Despite all the evidence I've seen, I stubbornly remain a socialist.]
A national economy must be built up on socialist ideas. You can't "patch it in" and expect it to work - as we have seen by the rape of unions, as we have seen by the meltdown of regulations, as we have seen by the dissolution of workers' rights, fair trade, and livable wages. All these ideas were stapled onto a nigh-immobile system that ran directly counter to these ideas, that of the rapacious robber barons. In order to have socialism in America, the system has to crash and burn and be rebuilt. Beyond the great Depression and the New Deal. It calls for an entire restructuring of how things work in this country.
[One of my favorite South Park episodes was when all the hippies converged together and denounced the EVIL corporations without knowing what they hell they were talking about.]
I hate to be a fly in the ointment, but we're facing extinction. Anthrogenic climate change is utterly irreversible and within a couple of hundred years, the political structures of the planet will be unrecognizable.
[Haven't you gotten the word yet? Since Algore is definitely not running in 2008, that whole Global Warming shtick has now been ditched.]
Capitalism drives competition which benefits all society when it means creating jobs and opportunities as opposed to a state-sponsored system that will either only produce what's needed or overproduce just to maintain jobs. Automate all you want, but at the head-end there's still gonna be a human plugging in the data...that creates status as well.
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
As someone who was part of a communal farm from 1969-89, my experience is that appealing to the group's needs almost always took back seat to what individuals wanted for themselves (out of their own labor and out of the group enterprise.) Today, I prefer private ownership and responsibility for my own farm (I'm the only one remaining here from the original communal band) but with outlets and involvement for supporting and nurturing the larger community which I am very much a part of. Enlightened community interest, involvement and support beats socialism, hands down.
[It took 20 wasted years of Hippie living on a commune to FINALLY get this guy's mind right.]
If the 1960's communes were so great, how come we don't still see them in existence today? I wasn't an adult back then but I've read. Seems the communes work well as long as everyone is doing their fair share and cooperating. But as soon as someone starts shirking, or taking more than they should, or is simply a bad apple in the community, things start to break down and we need a societal structure to intervene. It is natural to want to work hard, and to share, but it's hard to voluntarily share when you think you're working harder than everyone else and that you're being taken advantage of.
[Isn't there at least ONE Hippie Commune left in existence? It would make a great tourist attraction. But be sure to drive through with your windows up so as to avoid the smell.]
Marx's theory of human nature occupies an important place in his critique of capitalism, his conception of communism, and his 'materialist conception of history'. Marx, however, does not refer to "human nature" as such, but to Gattungswesen, which is generally translated as 'species-being' or 'species-essence'. What Marx meant by this is that humans are capable of making or shaping their own nature to some or other extent. According to a note from the young Marx in the Manuscripts of 1844, the term is derived from Ludwig Feuerbach’s philosophy, in which it refers both to the nature of each human and of humanity as a whole. However, in the sixth Thesis on Feuerbach (1845), Marx criticizes the traditional conception of "human nature" as "species" which incarnates itself in each individual, on behalf of a conception of human nature as formed by the totality of "social relations". Thus, the whole of human nature is not understood, as in classical idealist philosophy, as permanent and universal: the species-being is always determinated in a specific social and historical formation, while some aspects being of course biological.
[And now you know why I fell asleep trying to read Das Kapital once when I was sent to the library for detention in high school.]
I am fairly old and have seen enough to know that many are lazy and clueless. Many of these people could care less about pulling their own weight now and surely would not under a different system.To many have an entitlement mentality and will keep it under socialism. If you think I am wrong you are a Blindpig. We will always have lowlifes that don't pull their own weight, they hurt themselves and hurt those who really do need help.
[We shall sing the "Internationale" at your tombstoning ceremony.]
Who was the socialist candidate for prez in the last election. I bet you can't name the person.
[Mama T's Half-Goy Toy. ...And now a special bonus video below of DUmmie types getting all excited about attending a Socialism 2007 conference.]