Monday, July 02, 2007

"Poor judgment on dKos"

According to pandering presidential candidate, John Edwards, the global war on terror is just a bumper sticker slogan. In a pathetic attempt to ingratiate himself to the Looney Left that now runs the Democrats, Edwards needs to downplay the fact that terrorism is even much of a threat. We saw that same attitude recently on the Daily KOs in this KOmmie THREAD posted by Larry Johnson titled, "London Bomb--What a Crock of Crap!!" Larry's contention is that this whole terror threat is nothing but a "Crock of Crap!!" Here is what he said about the first bomb threat car in London that was discovered:

"You know what you call a vehicle with 50 gallons of gas? A Cadillac Escalade. The media meltdown over this incident is simply shameful."

So what do you call a vehicle that ALSO had propane tank and cannisters of nails, Larry. An excursion car? Too bad Larry's timing was way off since the VERY NEXT DAY after he posted his idiocy, a jeep Cherokee rammed the terminal at Glasgow airport in Scotland. It would be interesting to read Larry's take on this but he currently seems to be in hiding from embarrassment. However, don't think his fellow DUmmies have been slapped into reality by these incidents. Many still continue to buy into the Edwards/Johnson routine of discounting the terrorist threat. It is the fact that the KOmmies are looking like such utter FOOLS in this matter that has inspired this semi-sane post by London KOmmie justforkix,
Poor judgment on dKos, in which he takes his fellow KOmmies to task for disbelieving the facts of the terrorist threat in Britain. So let us now watch the KOmmies discount the very existence of any terrorist threat in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, wondering if John Edwards is still scrapping off his "bumper sticker slogan," is in the [brackets]:

Poor judgment on dKos

[A daily event.]

Long-term Kos reader and London resident here. I have to say that the Larry Johnson diary made my eyes pop when I first saw it on top of the RecList on Friday. There I am, sitting at my work desk, two floors above Oxford Street, with police cars screaming down the road throughout the day, and news of tube cancellations and evacuations coming through in the office email - and here is this diary on my monitor, saying it's all a crock of crap. It's true that American media has a tendency to blow everything way out of proportion. (I was a first-hand witness to that too in Denton, TX during and after 9-11 - our mosque happened to get firebombed.) But for Larry Johnson to be so dismissive when he is so ill-informed was a very poor reflection on this great website.

[I hate to break this to you, KOmmie justforkix, but Larry Johnson is an ACCURATE reflection of KOmmieland.]

I can only hope that this Larry Johnson won't jump the gun or trivialize reported incidents in future without having more facts in hand. It makes him, and this site by association, look foolish. When I heard about the Glasgow attempt, I was reminded of this post again. It's true that these terrorists seem to be a bunch of utter incompetents and belong on the set of a farce. But you only need to get lucky once. There are still too many crazies out there who are itching to kill innocents. And I say this as a Muslim myself. You see hardline Muslim youth every day on the streets of East London. As a Muslim from a moderate country (Bangladesh), I find nothing in their conversation or attitude that links my faith to theirs. If there were to be further successful attempts, and if the perpetrators do turn out to be disaffected Muslim youth from a working-class immigrant background, then very few people - least of all the Muslim community here - will be surprised. It's become that kind of world.

[Larry Johnson seems to be hiding out in embarrassment over the Glasgow terrorist incident since it gave complete lie to his dopey premise the very next day after he posted it. And now to hear from the rest of the KOmmies who are not the least bit embarrassed over looking like idiots...]

Larry is right.

[Posted the very first reply thus demonstrating KOmmie ignorance beautifully.]

While the plot itself was serious it could not have inflicted nearly the damage breathlessly reported by the media. Gasoline is only a high explosive under very narrow circumstances. Think about how your car works. The air/gas mixture has to be correct. Too much air, no compustion. Not enough air, same problem. In addition to provide maximum force it has to be compressed. Those conditions are very difficult to produce in a car, any car, even a couple of very well built Mercedes.

[So you would have no problem standing next to that Mercedes that was also loaded with propane tanks and nail cannisters?]

The Glasgow attack was very Hollywood, which made it look more like an unfortunate comedy moment than a serious threat.

[I'm sure you would have had a great bellylaugh if you had been standing between that Jeep Cherokee and the airport terminal.]

As for disruption in London - disruption in London happens all the time, whether there's a threat or not. London has one of the creakiest and most overcrowded public transport networks in the developed world. Decades of 'Why should we spend money on the peasants?' have seen to that. There was disruption before Friday, and there will be more disruption after it. Turrurists are almost a minor inconvenience compared to other mundane annoyances on that network.

[In the Alternate Universe of KOmmieland, terrorism ranks down there with inconvenient traffic jams.]

Johnson's diary was held up for ridicule on Little Green Shitballs. We don't need that.

[Would you feel better if Johnson's diary were held up for ridicule in the DUmmie FUnnies?]

Larry Johnson was dead-on correct.

[Is that you, John Edwards?]

There was compressed gas in the form of propane tanks with nails packed around them.

[Relax! Larry Johnson says not to worry and John Edwards says this whole threat is just a bumper sticker fiction.]

But propane tanks don't explode circumferentially ... which is what would be required to propel nails wrapped around them like shrapnel.

[Maintains a KOmmie physicist.]

You throw the cigarette into the liquid gasoline, and the gas vapors are so dense that there is simply no oxygen to burn. Not only does the gasoline not ignite, the cigarette is extinguished due to lack of oxygen to sustain its own fire.

[I wonder how many KOmmies will self-destruct by attempting this science experiment?]

A vehicle was blown up at the Glasgow airport. If that isn't an attempted bombing, then what was it?

[According to Larry Johnson, it was a mere nuisance to ranked down there with inconvenient traffic jams.]

Larry is not right. What he did in his diary is an example of the worst of blog journalism - the ability to snap judge without having all the facts. His diary was NOT something anyone at this site should aspire to. His diary was the equivalent the MSM desire to fill air space even if one has nothing to say. His diary was about Larry Johnson, the self-styled and self-promoting terrorism expert, making a grand statement. And because he has a recognizable name people here gave his diary a kneejerk recommendation.

[Larry Johnson sounds like the Pied Piper Pitt of KOmmieland.]

please, Larry, if nothing else looks like the guy with the worst timing in the world. Kind of like when he wrote an op ed telling us terrorism is not a serious threat prior to 9-11.

[Did Larry also tell the Titanic captain not to worry about the iceberg threat?]

What I really want to know is whether the new rash of bombings is linked to acts arranged by the CIA in Italy in the 1970s - the Strategia della Tensione - while Michael Ledeen was stationed in Italy and George H.W. Bush was director of the CIA. It would be just like the Bushistas to blackmail the new prime minister with a rash of bombings that only "cooperation on intelligence" can address. I want to know from the interviews going on now with those arrested whether there were informant/instigators in their groups just like there have been in every "terrorist" plot busted in America in the past few years.

[A London/Glasgow bombing "Truther" speaks up.]

We have a new left-leaning prime minister who is distancing himself from the Bush Adminisration and his predecessor, Tony Blair. All of a sudden there is a rash of bombings. Sounds too familiar to be coincidence in my book.

[If this is KOmmieland, this wackiness sounds VERY familiar.]

Call me a conspiracy theorist. As you have pointed out, these war criminals are capable of anything.

[How about if we call you a V For Vendetta fanatic?]

Johnson was also on MSNBC's Keith Olbermann, saying the same thing.

[Johhnson serves up the kind of Kool-Aide that Olbermann loves to drink.]

I understand that lives could have been lost today, and that is no laughing matter. But I also think that the American MSM used this to their advantage-to sell the Global War on Terror

[You mean that silly bumper sticker slogan that John Edwards discounts.]

Not to change the subject but I'm wondering if these car bombs appeared in London (one of the world's greatest cities IMHO) at the encouragement of American intelligence agencies.

[Your tinfoil hat is fitting a bit too tightly.]

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Blogger Son Of The Godfather said...

These people are dangerous.

Sometimes, I scan DUmmie FUnnies so I can get the leftard perspective without actually wading into the swamp. Most of the time, I chuckle a little and shake my head. This post, however, simply made me want to back-hand the crap out of these wastes of skin.

"Useful idiots" is too much of a simplification... They are insane.

9:53 AM  
Anonymous ray said...

"Gasoline is only a high explosive under very narrow circumstances."

Yea, add heat and BOOM! Anyone who thinks that gas is not an explosive needs to get their head out of their ass. Ever see what happens at a refinery when a gasoline holding tank catches fire? It EXPLODES!

The line about there not being enough O2 is a crock, go ahead and drop a lit cigarette into a full gas can and see what happens. You'll soon be visiting the local burn ward. You can put a cigarette out in diesel oil, but not gasoline.

"But propane tanks don't explode circumferentially ... which is what would be required to propel nails wrapped around them like shrapnel.

The KOmmie is right in saying that this wouldn't be a very good shrapnel weapon, but set off explosives next to a propane tank and it creates a Fuel-Air Explosive [FAE], also known as thermalbaric, which one of the most powerful explosives available.

10:03 AM  
Anonymous ray said...

For any lingering DUmmis and KOmmies who still believe that gas is not a powerful explosive, I would suggest you read the following:

" Ardmore, Oklahoma
Gasoline Explosion
September 1915



ARDMORE, Okla., Sept. 28 – The death list in the gasoline explosion here was raised to fifty when the bodies of four unidentified negroes were found in the wreckage of a building on Main street about noon.


It developed today that there was but one workman employed in repairing the tank car in the Santa Fe railroad yards, when a spark from his hammer ignited the gasoline and resulted in an explosion as terrific as an equal quantity of dynamite. The workman was Ira Woods, employed by a refinery company. Bits of his body were found many yards from the scene of the explosion."

10:16 AM  
Anonymous ray said...

There's something I found interesting:

It's 1/4 gallon of gasoline exploding in slow motion. Now, magnify that by 200 and you'll begin to understand what 50 gallons of gas exploding would look like.

10:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PJ I am very happy to let you go into DUmmieLand also. However, the stupidity of these people is so breathtaking that I feel my IQ dropping as I read their comments.

I keep thinking you must decontaminate a bit like the scientists in "The Andromeda Strain" after each visit to the DUmmies.

11:24 AM  
Anonymous true patriot said...

"What I really want to know is whether the new rash of bombings is linked to acts arranged by the CIA in Italy in the 1970s - the Strategia della Tensione - while Michael Ledeen was stationed in Italy and George H.W. Bush was director of the CIA. It would be just like the Bushistas to blackmail the new prime minister with a rash of bombings that only "cooperation on intelligence" can address"

It's amazing how every one of us in the reality based community are so much smarter than your fascist CIA! We ask the tough questions - and you get very nervous!


12:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TP please post BEFORE hittin' the sauce.

4:49 PM  
Anonymous ray said...

"What I really want to know is whether the new rash of bombings is linked to acts arranged by the CIA in Italy in the 1970s"

Sure TP, the terrorists waited 30 years because they needed to plan their attacks, right?

6:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Strictly speaking, the internal combustion engine (which we use to drive our cars with) cannot succeed without a supply of gasoline. The principle of said engine also calls for repeated contained explosions of said gas to make the engine work.

8:42 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

I wonder how much work it is to shove your head that far up your anal cavity and keep there. How about it, TP, can you tell us?

And if the CIA is so good at making this happen, why is it so easy for you to figure out? Or why haven't they just 'disappeared' Larry Johnson et al? (Probably because they can't even move due to the hysterical laughter.)

11:39 PM  

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