Thursday, June 28, 2007

"WSJ: Opposing immigration bill could sink GOP"

I wanted to do a DUFU about the Shamnesty Immigation bill now in the Senate. Unfortunately there has been almost NO discussion about this issue in the Leftwing Blogosphere...until now. As you can see in this Daily KOs KOmmie THREAD titled, "WSJ: Opposing immigration bill could sink GOP," this debate is only interesting to the Left because they are desperately hoping that it will sink the Republicans. That is the the sum total of the Left's interest in this bill. The fact that it would take jobs away from American citizens and eventually cost us trillions of dollars in benefits to the illegals who will be legalized is of no concern to them. Only that they think it hurts Republicans. In fact this KOmmie thread was posted by head KOmmie KOs himself. So let us now watch the KOmmie rejoicing over the perceived harm to the GOP (not the country) in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, thinking that KOmmie KOs would enjoy interviewing Senator Lindsey Gramnesty in a very private session on this topic, is in the [brackets]:

WSJ: Opposing immigration bill could sink GOP

[Opposing Shamnesty will HELP the Republicans because it means profoundly IGNORANT RINOS like crybaby Senator George Voinovich will be purged from office.]

Yes, the Wall Street Journal is the mouthpiece for the Corporate Cons, who have a clear interest in the current immigration bill making its torturous way through Congress. But regardless of their motivations, this editorial today nails the GOP's immigration dilemma.

Republicans are being torn asunder between their nativist base, and shifting demographics that could spell doom to any hope of future Republican majorities.

["Nativist base." That is how KOmmie KOs describes U.S. citizens concerned about losing jobs to the flood of illegals that will be legalized by the Shamnesty bill.]

Looking at this in stark political terms (ignoring the very real problems of our undocumented underclass), Democrats have little interest in seeing this legislation pass. It's a flawed bill that could be dramatically improved on by stronger Democratic majorities in Congress and a Democratic president in two years. And it's failure now, at the hands of xenophobic Republicans, would solidify Democratic hold over perhaps the largest swing constituency in the country.

[As I type this, the Shamnesty Bill now looks like it will be killed by the cloture vote in a few hours, despite the best efforts of Senator Gramnesty and complete MORONS like Crybaby Voinovich.]

Republicans would be not be just a regional southern party, but also a lily white one. Latinos aren't afraid to vote Republican, and exit polls showed that new Latino immigrants were more likely to vote Republican than second- or third-generation Latinos. Rove saw those numbers and wants more of the same. But once you attack our culture, it becomes a cultural imperative to vote for those who embrace us rather than demonize. California is exhibit A in this phenomenon.

[Let's see. KOmmie KOs admits the bill stinks but that Republicans will be somehow harmed by opposing this travesty.]

Karl Rove gets this, and the WSJ has come out with all guns blazing. The danger to the GOP's long-term prospects is stark.

[Desperately hopes KOmmie KOs. Of course he is not the slightest bit concerned about the danger to the USA's long-term prospects.]

By now, the damage may already be done. Even if this bill somehow becomes law, Latinos will spend the next year and a half hearing the GOP presidential wannabees one-up themselves on brown-bashing, and that will speak louder than any brownie points Bush might earn for fighting to the death for this bill.

[And if the bill is KILLED, the voters will fondly remember those of both parties who put the cloture stake through it.]

But it really is amazing how an issue that seemed destined to hit the Democrats hard just a couple of years ago has suddenly turned into a divisive "make or break" issue for the Republican Party.

[I have to admit that George Bush & Co. got suckered bigtime by the Democrats on this one. For the KOmmies, this whole immigration debate boils down on how best to HARM the GOP. And now to hear from KOs' fellow KOmmies...]

Sweet. Just sweet.

[Sweet. Putting the whole country at risk just to harm the GOP. Just sweet.]

...still not believing this whole "wedge issue is dividing Republicans" stuff until I see it in action. Base GOP voters are notoriously hard to pry off the jocks of the superstars when it really matters.

[The biggest effect this will have on the GOP is to make it easier to get rid of the RINOS...and that's a GOOD thing!]

This Senate bill sucks for both the illegal immigrants and the American people. This is a bad bill. I think as many Hispanics may oppose it (especially when more know what's in it, maybe after it passes) as Republicans. It will be for different reasons, but the compromise for this bill did not make it better. It made it a completely untenable piece of work.

[And this KOmmie WINS a Kewpie Doll for having a brief moment of mental clarity!]

What a complicated issue. But it's always good to see Republicans on the losing side of something, which seems to be happening much more frequently these days.

[The bottom line on how the Left views the Shamnesty Bill.]

But didn't Bush pretty much kill any chance of the bill passing when he said it offered amnesty?

[Sometimes misspeaking has POSITIVE benefits. Or was this just a Freudian slip on Bush's part? Either way, I like that it HARMED the Shamnesty Bill.]

It's nice to see one of these dopey malapropisms actually hurt him.

[And the Shamnesty Bill.]

The Dems have our own nativist base. Once we get the power to make clean powerful immigration reform I predict it's gonna get damn ugly in some parts of the mid and southwest.

[The voice of La Raza speaks up...and reveals their future plans.]

It's better from the Dem perspective for there to be shared political responsibility on the "amensty" issue and for this issue to be dealt with this year.

[Translation: "It's better if we sucker the Republicans now on supporting Shamnesty."]

There are places in the country, especially along the border, where it can bite us. If I were Reid or Pelosi, I would not get too far out front without a lot of Republican coverage.

[We need to sucker enough Republican stooges to provide political cover for us.]

I thought Pelosi wanted 75 Repubs to commit to vote for the bill before she would bring it to the floor. It sounded like a good idea when I first heard it, and it sounds even better now.

[Nancy Pelosi wants 75 Republican suckers to provide political cover for the Democrats.]

I have numerous issues with this bill, but the prospect of pitting the GOP against the nation's fastest growing population is almost too good to pass up. It seems as if the Dem leadership keeps resurrecting this thing to bury the GOP. No way the Dems could actually support some of the utter crapola in the bill.

[Thanx for your HONESTY. You realize this Shamnesty Bill is crapola but since it would end up hurting Republicans, you think its great. I only wish MORONS like Crybaby Voinovich could read your post but, of course, he is so DUmb that it wouldn't even register with him.]

the real question here is WHY is the democratic party supporting amnesty?

[Because if they get enough SUCKER Republicans to also support it, they think it will harm the GOP.]

Amnesty is essentially what the US does now, which is deport people with no fines, jail time, etc. This bill is worse because it provides a significant benefit for very little cost to people who have broken the law in many different ways. It's simply absurd.


The thousand year Reich is collapsing. Pass me another Corona with lime.


So I hope and would pray, if I did pray, that after the bill does its job of splitting the Republicans, it dies a quiet death.

[Thanx for providing yet more confirmation that the REAL purpose of this Shamnesty Bill is to harm Republicans.]

I'd much prefer to do this now with Bush as political cover and also pushing Republicans to vote for the bill. I believe we should fight for the best we can get and improve the bil in later years.

[Yet more KOmmie KOnfirmation that they need Sucker Republicans to harm themselves.]

If there was even a half-assed enforcement of existing laws, many illegals would leave on their own. Many haven't been here that long, and if their access to jobs, free benefits, etc was stopped, and there was NO propsect of amnesty, what would be a reason to stay?


Am Hispanic (Puerto Rico) and I (and my family) are against amnesty.... It has nothing to do with hate or bias against latinos. ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO!!!! We are full up...this will be a free pass to every one who is coming over the wall this minute and thinking about entering the country illegally in the future.

[Sorry. I've already used up my Kewpie Doll quota on this thread.]

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Anonymous ray said...

"No way the Dems could actually support some of the utter crapola in the bill."

Wrong, the Democrats are even more hungry for Latino votes than the Republicans. The Republicans support this because they are simply naive. The Democrats support this because they are vindictive AND naive, a dangerous combination.

"Latinos aren't afraid to vote Republican, and exit polls showed that new Latino immigrants were more likely to vote Republican than second- or third-generation Latinos."

Illegal immigrants, on the other hand, vote overwhelmingly for the democrats, as does ineligible criminals, minors, and dead people. You can pretty much guarantee that if they are ineligible, they will vote democrat!

9:09 AM  
Blogger Capitalist Infidel said...

Thank God it didn't pass!

2:24 PM  
Anonymous eric said...

I would go to the doctor and make sure you were not poisoned by viewing the Daily Kos site. :)

The real immigration problem in this country is red states being overrun by blue staters. Nevada and Arizona are under siege from liberal AARP carpetbaggers, and we need to seal the Florida border so that New York liberals do not get past South Carolina.

Anyway, I would consider it an honor and a privilege if you would add my blog "The Tygrrrr Express" to your list of linked sites if you feel the quality is high. If this is request is redundant, my bad in advance.

I came across your blog through the Rottweiler's website, since I enjoy his writing.

Happy summer.


11:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Latinos aren't afraid to vote Republican, and exit polls showed that new Latino immigrants were more likely to vote Republican than second- or third-generation Latinos.

Unfortunately correct. Those of us who saw what a 3rd-world shithole is, will NEVER vote for socialism in this country. Those born here get a sense of entitlement from all around us.

But once you attack our culture, it becomes a cultural imperative to vote for those who embrace us rather than demonize.

What an idiot. Since when is detesting illegal immigration an attack on "our culture"? Besides, there is NO "our culture". I'm not - nor do I WANT to be - a Mexican, or a Puerto Rican, or a Salvadorean, or a Chilean. Its like saying a Brit has the same "culture" as an Italian. Hell, theyre both White and European, right?

12:59 PM  
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1:08 PM  
Anonymous true patriot said...

Uhhhh, wheres the news about the fake bombs planted by Chimpy and Rove in London? So this, ahem, bomb just happens to be discovered the same day Chimpy and Rove announce they will illegally refuse to provide all the Gonzales papers (which WILL sink them and create PRESIDENT Pelosi). Now this conveniently will dominate the news all weekend. What a marvelous coincidence!

Us Reality Based know the REAL reality!

4:48 PM  
Blogger The Gunslinger said...

I guess I'm just too stupid to understand the DK Machiavellian subtleties...but it seems to me that Republican citizens (not "R" politicians) won this round. We stopped a bad bill, and damaged the unfit in our midst; who, with luck, will be displaced in their next primaries.

This will help unite and forgive the term, purify the GOP.

The overwhelming citizen negative response to this abortion may give Conservative politicians a little more confidence and backbone.

That can't do anything but help Republicans.

If Latinos will vote Democrat because Republicans denied amnesty, the only only reasonable response it to continue to limit the number of Latinos qualified to vote...which means continuing to deny amnesty to 20+ million illegals.

Repbulicans "win" by continuing to do what we just did...forbidding the sell out of our country to foreign nationals.

8:00 PM  
Blogger Son Of The Godfather said...

True Patriot,

We of the Illuminati are very, very good at covering our tracks.


9:31 AM  
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3:32 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

With 75% of the country against this bill I have some difficulty seeing how it hurts Republicans who oppose it more than Democrats who support it. Somehow we should cut and run from Iraq because "the public's against it" but we should not think that the public being against this bill will help those who oppose it.

Sounds like Kos is becoming almost as disconnected from reality as true patriot.

6:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heh, tp lies as usual.

Dang, that marcos guy just looks like someone needing a byach-slap. What a weeeeiiiney. Here's yer chance tp, strut right up there and slap the turd. Take over the kos network. You can do it. Show him you're woman enough for the job.


1:31 AM  
Anonymous write me an essay said...

Surely the bill would have increased enforcement of the United States-Mexico border, including increasing the number of border patrol agents by 20,000 and adding another 370 miles (600 km) of fencing, among others.

6:50 AM  

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