True Believer KOmmie Burned By ObamaCare
You know ObamaCare is in big trouble when even true believer KOmmies are getting burned by it as you can see in this THREAD, "Just my 2 cents-Health Care Market Place." This is what happens when a community organizer with no real world business experience awards the ObamaCare software contract not to the lowest bidder but to the highest bundler. It's the Chicago Way and the result is that CGI Federal has become the Solyndra of government software contracts. It just doesn't work and won't be working any time soon...if ever. So let us now watch KOmmie appledown lose his ObamaCare faith due to cruel online experience in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, who spotted an ObamaCare navigator at Walmart today earning $48 an hour for doing NOTHING since NO ONE was at her table, is in the [barackets]:
Just on the phone with an ACA representative about verifying my identity. This happened because my first signup was “lost” (no such login) and I had to signup again. The Representative was nice, courteous and very helpful.
[For $48 per hour they better be nice.]
I explained that I uploaded my ID a week ago and still cannot complete the process and that I had been trying to get thru the application process for 2 weeks now. I was placed on the line with Experian (yes the credit rating company) and the recording stated I needed a reference number-I explained that the system did not give me a reference number and wondered why the upload was not received by Experian? The Rep said the “system” went down-I asked if I could upload again and was told I could only mail my ID via US mail.
[The system went down? Gee, what a surprise.]
I also stated that I am very surprised that Experian is involved with this process. I then asked for and spoke to a supervisor-who was courteous and explained that Experian is behind on verifications and I will get an email when this process is complete-that I did not have to “mail” my ID.
[No need to snail mail your ID that they will steal.]
All in all a pretty frustrating experience and since I support the ACA I cannot believe they were not ready for this roll out and that they should have chosen software and verification vendors that could handle the volume.
[The main qualification for the software was how much the company was willing to donate to the Obama campaign.]
Just my 2 cents.
[Your 2 cents and another $500 million in overruns for a software system that will NEVER work. Now on to the other KOmmies...]
All Good Reasons to Have Adopted Preschool Technology and limit signups to small fractions of the alphabet or birthdays each week for a month or 2 so that an untried system could never be overloaded.
[There could be only 10 people per day logging in and that software Solyndra still won't work.]
Anyway, what about calling the number at the bottom of the initial healthcare.gov page and start your application over the phone?
[Sure. I've got nothing better to do with my life than to be placed on permanent hold.]
The problem is the Dems missed a huge opportunity by not making sure the site worked well from day one. We are going to take massive hits on this and if it is fixed very soon, like by the time the shutdown and debt limit arguing is off the done and the media and the asshole Republicans start to focus on the website problems it will be ok, if not watch out it is going to get ugly!
[The Solyndra website won't be fixed by this time next year so very very ugly.]
I have tried to log on for the past 5 days in Georgia to look something up (we have already purchased Insurance through the exchange) but can't get past the login page.
[Georgia? I know someone in your state who successfully "enrolled" in ObamaCare: Chad Henderson. Find out how he did it.]
apparently if the system is too busy, you will sometimes be told that your account doesn't exist even if it does. The key as I discovered last night is to access your account in the middle of the night eastern time. I was able to log in at 11:00 PM Arizona time which is 2:00 AM eastern. The verification went OK but some entries like SSN were difficult to enter properly and took a number of tries. If you have trouble at the first query on SSN, check to see if it's an optional entry and if it is, just don't bother with it. The process will ask you for it again later. Sometimes entries like a phone number expect -'s to be used sometimes not. It also hiccuped on my email addressJust try and see what works. Anyway, I got most of the way through the process but decided to log out and continue another day. I hope the system remembers me!
[The Solyndra system already forgot that you even exist.]
Yes, the ID verification is a nightmare. For me, this is the biggest bottleneck I've encountered. It screwed up and flunked me when I answered the various questions about my life. Then Experian had no record of my applying, no code number. I finally have a drivers license uploaded, but over a week later my verification is still pending. The chat people are worthless, the number one priority of phone help is to give you the bums rush so they can move on to give the next caller the bums rush too. I've been going to healthcare.gov everyday since Oct. 1. I'm no closer to accomplishing anything. One of my favorite authors is Kafka. This whole experience reminds me of him.
[Is Joseph Heller another favorite author of yours because this sounds like you are stuck in "Catch 22."]
On healthcare.gov, I was asked for which cat I bought veterinary insurance.
[ObamaCat. It's ObamaCare for cats.]
We thought we'd just window shop, but for some reason there isn't a way to just look without signing in. I realize that's not the same as signing up, but I still don't really want to tell anybody I might be out there looking. Who wants to know? The NSA? The IRS? Credit bureaus? Other insurance companies who want to advertise to me too?
[The DNC? Nigerian emailers?]
My application says "Status: in progress". I wonder how long it will be before I can shop.
[The day after next year.]
We should just have a national ID card that gets issued to all citizens for use with exactly this kind of thing. Then there would be no problem whatsoever.
[But NOT for voting. No, no. We musn't do that.]
posted by PJ-Comix at 7:52 PM
33 Comments:
"We should have a national ID card that gets issued to all citizens."
Never happen DUmmie, a national ID card might help prevent Democrat voting fraud.
And what about the Dems illegal alien friends?
It's obvious that even when they are getting screwed eight ways from Sunday, the Moonbat community (just like Troglaman) refuse to accept or comprehend their god [EXPLETIVE DELETED] them. It's amazing that people that titanically stupid can still function on any level.
When people are paid to do nothing (ObamaCare navigators)they will do nothing. No competition - why bother.
This subject is gonna get a lot of coverage in the next year. Stay on top of it. ;)
Feeling triumphant, my friends? Think you started the country thinking about Obamacare and how evil and despotic it really is? You planted a seed, perhaps?
Yes you do. You think you did the right thing.
What's amazing about your incredible ability to deny your staggering ineptitude is...your incredible ability to deny your staggering ineptitude.
You stupid fuckers can't do anything right. You're always wrong. About everything. You're all the anti-Midas. Everything you touch turns to shit.
You idiots cost us billions upon billions upon billions. Fiscal conservatives my ass.
Know what? Keep it up. Keep shoving your idiocy down people's throats. Keep costing them money.
Above all else, keep your leaders, your elected representatives, held to your moronic standards. Sing it from the highest mountain.
If you chimps had a brain, you'd be out in the back yard playing with it...rolling it around in the sand-box.
"Think you started the country thinking about Obamacare and how evil and despotic it really is? " -troglaman
None of us did that. The hideous train wreck of the website did that. Or as you say. It "planted a seed". When the rest of it collapses we'll be able to say I told you so. But don't worry, that won't matter because it'll make us all equally miserable. Enjoy paying more for less coverage on your insurance plan.
"You idiots cost us billions upon billions upon billions."
17 trillion dollars in debt. No budget from the Senate in over 4 years. As much as you want to deny it, Republicans didn't do that.
Project like the wind troglaman. It won't do you any good.
According to Ezra Klein of the Washington Post, 185,000 people have been able to sign up for Obamacare.
Wired Magazine points out that over 200,000 people have signed up to live on Mars.
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-09/12/over-200000-apply-to-live-on-mars
Why the difference?
Because the possibility of living on Mars in much more feasible than signing up for Obamacare.
Sure Troglaman called Obamacare evil and despotic but how right is he? Well Reuters reports that it's costing triple the estimated amount at $292 million dollars (for ten year old technology)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/17/us-usa-healthcare-technology-insight-idUSBRE99G05Q20131017
And we're paying for it! Wheeeeee! But wait there's more. Now we (taxpayers) are paying bonuses and overtime to fix it, past crunch time. Not to mention we'll also be paing SpryMedia for copyright violations in the software.
A third of a billion dollars for a website that doesn't even work. But if you don't use it you'll get fined.
"None of us did that." troglanon.
The web-site was launched the same day you jackasses closed the government.
Actually, one has nothing to do with the other. There's no doubt whoever wrote the code for the government exchange website fucked up. State websites were much better. Kentucky for example. People want this. Pre-existing conditions will not deny you coverage.
People want that. Get it?
No you don't. You'd rather people were denied because of pre-existing conditions. You'd rather insurance companies set the standards for who they treat and who they don't.
What you fuckers don't understand is that you lost the election. Obamacare was part of that argument. You lost.
And the Seahawks are kicking ass.
"State websites were much better. Kentucky for example" -troglaman
Much better? The enrollment for the entire country is less than two thirds the population of Lexington Kentucky. One city!
Talk about defining success downward.
"People want that. Get it?"
People were also denied coverage without pre-existing conditions. People with pre-existing conditions were more often charged 50%-75% more in monthly premiums than those accepted without them. That's pricey, no doubt about it.
Now, with Obamacare people with and without pre-existing conditions have had their monthly premiums raised 100%-300%. My family is one of them. And now it's been criminalized to refuse to pay the jacked up prices. Yay liberalism!
Yeah, who wouldn't want that.
"You lost." -troglaman
I see you're using the "I won so shut up" argument. Always a winner.
Here's an exit question.
Which one of these is easier to do? Make website or run a healthcare system for 313+ million people?
Because we already know how badly the government does one of them.
We won the house dipshit
"We won." troglaman
Obama once said the same thing as a way of telling the opposition to shut up and fall in line. Now troglaman is using the same argument: "We won, you lost, STFU."
Didn't work then, won't work now.
Now that the partial government shut down is over, we can all watch as Obamacare crashes and burns.
"People want it, get it?"
A hell of a lot of people (perhaps a majority) don't want it but then they should shut up; after all "we won".
KY has 4.3mil people, That's 0.0023%.
Success!
"This is what happens when a community organizer with no real world business experience awards the ObamaCare software contract not to the lowest bidder but to the highest bundler. It's the Chicago Way." PJInc
I just told stinkwagon that the trouble with you idiots is you discuss the speaker rather than what the speaker is saying.
If you are saying that Obama (the community organizer) literally signed a contract with a software company, and that it's the "Chicago Way", I'd like you to explain yourself. Why? Because you sound like a fucking lunatic, that's why. I seriously have no idea of what your talking about.
Is it the "Chicago Way" for government to hire a fucked-up software company?
Is it the "Chicago Way" for business to hire a fucked-up software company? Because THAT'S never happened before. Never ever. Only community organizers make that mistake.
Idiots.
"Now, with Obamacare people with and without pre-existing conditions have had their monthly premiums raised 100%-300%. My family is one of them." troglanon
I'd be very interested in hearing the particulars, troglanon. Truly.
Just search "insurance rates under Obamacare" there are many articles with statistics. CBS.com, Reuters, and US News & World Report to name a few, have numbers and some have charts. However you have to do actual math to show the % increase. For example one chart shows a premium for $654. Per month for a plan that was $191. Per month before Obamacare. Which, is actually more than 300% increase. It also raises the deductible from $4,500. to $5,000. So, sorry if I low-balled my numbers regarding premiums there.
But look on the bright side, sure your premiums soar but the deductible only went up a little over 13%. So, there's that.
"... you lost the election. Obamacare was part of that argument. You lost." Troglaman
Maybe it was part of the election, but we don't recall Obama campaigning on Obamacare waivers for corporations, increasing the cost of healthcare instead of lowering it, exempting Congress and their staffs from complying . . .
The next shoe is the waiver for labor unions. Wait for if . . . wait for it . . .
This "troglaman" seems more bitter and surly than a Northwest Airlines flight attendant! It must be tough to look in the mirror each day being that angry.
I'm glad I'm not him.
"Just search "insurance rates under Obamacare" there are many articles with statistics." troglanon
You said "...my family is one of them."...who are going to be screwed by Obamacare.
I, troglaman, think it would be instructive if you could relate your experience. What state do you live in? How much are you currently paying? How much more are you being required to pay? What's your yearly income?
If you told me those rather generic facts, I'm pretty sure I could determine if you're lying or not...or make you work for your lie. Either way, I'll feel good about it.
Would this be too painful an exercise for you, troglanon?
Yeah Anon 2:29, why aren't you giving out personal information to a belligerent, egotistical, internet blowhard like Troglaman?
What could possibly go wrong?
Congratulations! You've achieved a creepiness level on par with "internet predator". If that wasn't what you were going for then your delivery needs work.
I've told no lie and given no reason for you to believe otherwise.
Is that too painful a concept for you, troglaman?
Troglafuck must think Consumer Reports is racist - they've come out and told their readers to avoid the ObamaCare web site "for at least another month" (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/361750/consumer-reports-stay-away-healthcaregov-alec-torres).
Or as Troglafuck says, "This is fucking wonderful, just what people want and a huge fucking success."
His comment was shudder inducing. Based on that alone, my theory is that troggy is either a kids birthday party clown or an ice cream truck driver.
Both truly creepy professions.
Troglaman - The Sick Perverted Clone of William Rivers Pitt - said....
"If you are saying that Obama (the community organizer) literally signed a contract with a software company, and that it's the "Chicago Way", I'd like you to explain yourself. Why? Because you sound like a fucking lunatic, that's why. I seriously have no idea of what your talking about.
Is it the "Chicago Way" for government to hire a fucked-up software company?
Is it the "Chicago Way" for business to hire a fucked-up software company? Because THAT'S never happened before. Never ever. Only community organizers make that mistake."
That's not what he said Guttersnipe, you stupid idiot. He said the contract went not to the highest bidder but to the person who got him the most campaign money, Guttersnipe, you stupid idiot.
And this link - http://pjmedia.com/blog/sticker-shock-obamacare-increases-premiums-in-42-states/ - should tell even a drug and alcohol fried mind like yours, Guttersnipe, you stupid idiot, about the fact that young people are getting financially raped by ObamaCare, something I know will make a sick idiot like you happy.
"He said the contract went not to the highest bidder but to the person who got him the most campaign money, Guttersnipe, you stupid idiot." stinkwagon
Did he? That's even better. Do either of you dimwits have any evidence that the software company contributed to Obama's campaign?
If you don't, then you're just making shit up.
Obviously a difficult concept.
Maybe a visit to one of the godless Obama re-education/forced abortion/homo-loving/Planned Parenthood concentration camps could help you out.
Just a suggestion. They're really good. The cranial implant doesn't hurt at all.
"I've told no lie and given no reason for you to believe otherwise." strident troglanon
Did I say you lied or that I didn't believe you?
No, you hyper-sensitive drama queen. I didn't.
You said your family was negatively affected by Obamacare. I asked you for details. You replied, "I've told no lie and given no reason for you to believe otherwise."
Seems to me that if you were screwed over by Obamacare...if you had concrete evidence of what it's doing to YOU, you'd want to tell us all about it.
But you won't.
Judge for yourselves, wormbrains.
Why is it so hard to believe that I am among the multitudes that have to pay 2x or more (for less coverage) than what I was paying before. It's not like it's an isolated incident. Unless your default position is to deny everything anyone else writes here then it's pretty lazy of you but, your choice.
Your interest in my personal life is bizarre.
Silly person.
The Troglaman is incapable of comprehending or dealing with reality because of extremely shallow intellect and a total lack of appropriate educational training. It has an automatic response that is emotional and vile to any real event that does not correspond to a private fantasy that it has evolved for itself. The Troglaman will therefore only respond to the real world with hate, rage and insane rants because of its intellectual and moral shortcomings. This particular discussion proves that as the Troglaman was given information on how the destruction of the health care system is affecting society and it completely ignored the information and simply unleashed rage and hate the only things it has to deal with reality it cannot handle.
"Why is it so hard to believe that I am among the multitudes that have to pay 2x or more (for less coverage) than what I was paying before." affronted troglanon
Because you can't prove it, that's why. Why should I believe you? Prove that "multitudes have to pay 2x or more". Prove you've been personally damaged by Obamacare. You can't and you won't.
And you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT say something like "I make around 40 a year...I live in Indiana...my premiums on my family of three are around twelve hundred a month." Why? Because it reveals too much and you might be satisfying my weird hunger to know about you.
What a fucking crock. Jesus. I've revealed those very facts about myself at least a dozen times on this very website. And if anyone should be afraid of the 'weird hunger' factor, it should be me, troglaman.
Doesn't pass the smell test, troglanon. Give it up. You don't have shit.
"If you like your plan you can keep your plan"-President Obama
"Totally believable"-troglaman
"I am among the multitudes that have to pay 2x or more (for less coverage) than what I was paying before."-Anonymous 2:13
"you're just making shit up"-troglaman
This kind of thing is why we around here question your judgement.
"I've revealed those very facts about myself at least a dozen times on this very website"-troglaman
I however have a developed sense of privacy, personal responsibility, and simple common sense. This of course, is one example wherein we differ.
"I don't give a shit if you believe me or not, stinkwagon. It matters not."-troglaman
Remove the invective and this is where we share some common ground.
Anon 12:54pm, you must be the stupidest freak that ever lived. You're so full of BS. I dare you to prove "troglaman" has ever even commented on this blog. You can't because you're full of it!
All the rest of you are worthless pieces of dogcrap too if you think you've ever even seen a comment by troglaman. You haven't because there's never been one. Not. Even. One.
You'll never be as smart or as miserable as me because I'm smart and you're a rethugliKKKan. That's why people hate you idiots and you'll never win an election again. Because SHUT UP!
Dumb bastards.
I'm smart.
Kirsten Powers of The Daily Beast was on TV tonight saying that her insurance policy was canceled and now she's paying $140 a month more in premiums than she was before. But I don't believe her because she didn't tell me how old she is or where she lives.
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