Know-it-all Nadin wants to know: "How long until we take to the streets?"
The Revolution is a-brewin'. Or at least it should be. Heck, things are so bad--the tipping point should have been tipped and the Rubicon crossed long ago--the Revolution ought to be NOW! And Know-it-all Nadin, that is, DUmmie nadinbrzezinski, is getting impatient. So she lays down the challenge to her fellow DUmmies, here in this THREAD, "How long until we take to the streets?"
Of course, while excoriating others for not TAKING IT TO THE STREETS, Nadin herself will sit safely ensconced in her fallout shelter in San Diego, sipping triage milk and dispensing tidbits of wisdom and sage advice from her vast storehouse of knowledge.
But for the rest of you slackers. . . . "Why aren't you out there NOW, like those Egyptian guys a few months ago? Can't you spot a worldwide TREND when you see one?? No, of course you can't! You're not me, Know-it-all Nadin Brzezinski, the World's Foremost Authority. Oh, how I pity you people! Just be grateful you have ME, Nadin Brzezinski, to guide you through the often perplexing world of History, International Geopolitics, and Trendspotting. Oh and yes, be sure to thank me, or else I'll put you on my iggy list."
So let us now listen to the Wisdom of Nadin, as she descends from on high to spur the DUmmies on, in Bolshevik Red, while the commentary of your humble guest correspondent, Charles Henrickson, always amused when the DUmmies are revolting, is in the [brackets]:
How long until we take to the streets?
[If you start lecturing us, Nadin, I predict a large number of DUmmies will vacate their basements and run out into the streets to get away.)
Don't expect media to cover it either.
[OK, thanx for that tip, Nadin. I was half-expecting the media TO cover it when the Revolution begins. Now, though, let's see if your fellow DUmmies--your students, really, for you are the Master, and DUmmieland is your one big classroom--let's see if anyone takes up your challenge . . .]
It's hard to take to the streets when you have to drive to get there.
[Those gas prices, man--we may have to postpone the Revolution until the gas prices come down. Or maybe if we carpool. . . .]
Aren't Greece and France much more dense in their urban areas than the US?
[Oh, I think DUmmieland is MUCH more dense than Greece or France.]
How long until YOU take to the streets, nadin?
[Oooh, MineralMan! You're cruisin' for the iggy list!]
Like WI it will happen
[Now remind me, Nadin, what did that revolution in Wisconsin ACCOMPLISH exactly, other than a bunch of teachers getting fake sick notes from doctors so they could stand around and hold signs and feel good about themselves?]
Taking to the streets won't do good, they lived in walled off castles.
Who are "they"?
[Don't ask. It's nice just to have a "they" to revolt against in our pretend revolution.]
TPTB
["The Powers That Be." Or maybe, "Those People, They Bad!"]
And who are "TPTB"? Kinda vague, isn't it?
[OK, let's get more specific: The Man. The EEEvil Rich. The Corporatists Who Control Everything.]
If you prefer to believe that there are nameless, faceless people that control everything, that's your prerogative.
[It's our DUTY, as DUmmies!]
Google Grover Norquist, the Koch brothers, etc.
[You forgot Karl Rove and Dick Cheney.]
Them. No, that was ants. We? Crap...I think that was Anonymous. They must be the other. No...scary kid from hell. I'm not sure. But "they" sound pretty bad. We should probably do what we can to protect the village from them...er...they.
[I detect a note of sarcasm.]
DUers Postpone Taking To The Streets For Yet Another Year
[It's a reign delay.]
i don't know what you want people to take to the streets for. . . .
[What for?? Why, for EVERYTHING, of course! It's hot outside! I can barely afford a frappucino at Starbucks anymore! Radiation from Japan! Sky is falling! Seniors eating dog food! Dogs eating seniors! I mean, COME ON! Can't you SEE what is happening??]
I've never stopped taking it to the streets since 2003
[Is that you, Bobo the Hobo?]
People need to be willing to risk arrest and actually do something to shut the system down, not just march from point A to point B.
[Let's march from point A to point B . . . TO POINT C THIS TIME!]
Ummm... shut WHAT system down?
[The System! You know . . . The System!]
Capitalism, corporate America, the military industrial complex, Wall Street, call it what you want. Blockade the financial district. Blockade Faux news headquarters. Sit in at BP corporate offices.
[But that would require getting up from our keyboards.]
I guess you think the Egyptian people had no right to do what they did by rising up against their oppressors?
[Squawk like an Egyptian.]
Bush was not legitimately elected. He stole power. He launched an illegal war. He ordered the use of torture. He stripped Americans of their civil rights. How is he not a dictator?
If he was a dictator... how come there was an orderly transition of power after the election of 2008?
[OK, well, that was . . . that was an accident. But he was THINKING of being a dictator. And it FELT like he was a dictator, sorta, to us. So, I mean, it was really bad! And he smirked! And what about Cheney?]
it's silly to call him a dictator. Just plain silly.
[Silly, but accurate! Besides, he was BUSH, man! And we're still angry about it! So let's have a revolution to make up for it! Eight long years, man! The National Nightmare! Smirky the Chimp! AARRRRGGHH!!!!]
Resistance IS fun.
[Resistance is FUtile! But let's hear once more from Nadin . . .]
Again I am done with going on this. Won't happen (well it will but it won't be covered). So wvery one has to be documented. As to local actions seat inns don't result in arrest no more.
[Huh, wha?? "Seat inns"?]
Shut the system down, eh? . . . If you want to actually do something, go convince people to vote for the right people. That will bring change. But, you have to actually do it. You actually have to go talk to people and convince them.
[Good luck with that!]
A human barricade will work just fine. I've done it before. We shut down the financial district of SF the weekend the Iraq War broke out. It's quite easy to do.
[Human barricade, coming up!]
Last I heard, the financial district of San Francisco is still operating, so you did not actually shut it down, it seems. You may have temporarily blocked traffic on a street for a short time. Then, you went somewhere else and things resumed their normal state. So, I'd say that you shut down nothing.
[Picky, picky, picky. . . .]
Good on you. While some sit around a computer nannying and chastising those who get things done, you actually go out and take action when elections prove meaningless.
[Yeah, at least you go out and take a bunch of meaningless ACTIONS!]
Keep on pwning their asses. And let me know if I can help for, though I'm in a faraway land, I'll be there if you need me.
[I live on the Planet Gorgon, but I can beam myself down anytime you want!]
I was hoping for some... coherence.
[You came to the wrong place for that.]
What are you asking? Why is that such a hard question to answer?
And you're sitting there implying that I'm being evasive? LOL.
Hello? What is your question? Do I need to ask you again?
What is your question?
What is your question?
What is your question?
What is your question?
You having trouble reading that? Here let me put it in big, bold letters:
WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION?
[So what I hear you asking is, "What is your question?" Is that your question?]
Ted Robert Gurr, most famously, observed that frustration and aggression are interlinked, and most often revolutions occur after efforts at reform have failed and some improvement in conditions was realized. That is the "J-Curve" theory of revolutionary potential. . . . Also, as Skocpol and Goldstone point out, revolution doesn't just happen, it's a process that requires objective preconditions. Chalmers Johnson posited that revolution occurs only when several major subsystems of society have reached a point of "disequilibrium." The product of an actual revolution doesn't organize itself, as the Tillys observe, there has to be some sort of alternative structure created by the opposition that is capable of assuming power - that precondition is called "dual sovereignty."
[The surprising thing in this post was that the namedropper was NOT Know-it-all Nadin! It was some DUmmie named leveymg. But, speak of the devil, here comes Nadin . . .]
Well add Nash to that list. . . .
[Nadin can't let another know-it-all out-namedrop her!]
You know, the Social Revolution theorists don't count the American Rev as a true Social Rev. A split within and among elites, and a political separation accompanied by a war, but not a true reordering of society in any fundamental fashion. The Great Social Revolutions list generally includes the British Glorious Revolution of Civil War of 1688, the French (1789), Russian (1917) and Chinese (1949) revolutions and dozens of smaller national liberation struggles that followed. I don't see any persuasive evidence that we're headed for anything so drastic as a Social Revolution, Class War, or even a shooting war among polarized elites. The American Empire, however, is ripe for collapse like the French in 1940, the British in 1946, and the Soviet Union in 1991. Imperial collapse has a different mindset and dynamic.
[Nadin has met her match! Congratulations, DUmmie leveymg! DUmmies nadinbrzezinski and leveymg go back and forth now for a whole bunch of posts, trying to outdo one another with their impressive yet boring displays of knowledge. . . . We resume . . .]
Too many questions. You just have to TAKE TO THE STREETS! Never mind about the details. MAN THE BARRICADES! Allons enfants de la Patrie!!11! That sort of thing is what I think we're discussing here. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! STICK IT TO THE MAN!
[DUmmie MineralMan, who used to post on FR, must be a closet DUmmie FUnnies reader, since he knows how we satirize the DUmmie revolutionaries! Hee! Hee!]
When I get my bicycle back from the shop, I will be taking to the streets again. I'm stuck using the sidewalk for a few days. Is this about the Netflix price increase?
[More sarcasm. Come on, people! This is series! I mean, people are DYING!! Somewhere, I think. . . .]
Egypt, like any other revolution did not happen overnight. That one took about 30 years. The American REvolution took about a generation... I could go on.
[No, please, Nadin, don't. Please.]
I think it's delusional to believe the people are going to take to the streets. Of course this is the DU alternate universe where the reality of the regular universe does not count.
[The Reality-based Alternate Universe®.]
Take to the streets and do what exactly? Demonstrate? Sit-in? Civil disobedience? Riot? How many people might you expect to do this because as bad as things might seem here it is much better than the rest of the world. Basically people are too comfortable, too satisfied with the status quo. If 40% of the electorate don't even bother to vote in a presidential election, how many would ever take to the streets.
[OK, panel, for these two last posts, I'm going to flip all the cards and award today's Kewpie Doll to DUmmie elocs! Well played!]
Well then, sit at home and don't bother participating, Perfect example of what happens when people give up. and good bye.
[Welcome to Nadin's iggy list, elocs!]
I plan to walk my dog this evening - does that count?
[Take him to the streets, but just be sure to clean up after him.]
These days writing an angry blog is about all we're able to do...
[Walking the dog, writing a blog--it's the thought that counts.]
posted by PJ-Comix at 7:02 PM
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Take it to the streets, DUmmies... Trash day is Monday around here.
Oh, my . . . do they share only one brain cell? It is frightening that they people can vote. There ought to be an intelligence test before given the right to vote. I just hope that some of those people do not have a drivers license. Yikes!
"So wvery one has to be documented. As to local actions seat inns don't result in arrest no more."
(That's when the absinthe and shrooms kicked in.)
"TAKE IT TO THE STREETS"
Definitely a phrase that would cause on to DRINK UP! while playing the DUmmie drinking game.
My question is: take what? To which street? And what are we gonna do when we get there?
They better watch out. The streets around here are kinda busy with all those productive people going to WORK.
"You actually have to go talk to people and convince them."
And the usual "You're an evil Rethuglican c*** or p****, so shut up" won't convince anyone of anything other than you have no argument to make, that you jut parrot talking points that you have no knowlege about.
Usually these "Pushing for a revolution" threads are a bit more lively, and thus more amusing. I think even they themselves are starting to realize how pathetic they truly are.
You Prols can laugh at us all you want..The Revolution is near. The day is coming when we will rise up from the shackles of something and overthrow they that put them there. Not only do we have to take to the streets, but take to the Manhole covers and sewer grates as well!!!
I can feel the Revolution getting closer per minute. VIVA la RPM!!!
When we assume control we will force Faux Noise to lower their ratings to level of the vaunted MSNBC. It's criminal that Faux is rolling in all those excess viewers; while our networks go without. VIVA la RPM!!
When we assume control all Weed and Pizza will be confiscated by the New State, and withheld until comrades demonstrate fealty to the new state which will be henceforth known as the Peoples Republic of Moonbatia. VIVA la bomba...I mean VIVA la RPM!!
I am Che Goober, and I am worth more to you drunk then sober. VIVA la RPM!!!
Che G
"Congress consistently brings the Government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threatens the holders of government bonds and those who rely on Social Security and veterans benefits. Interest rates would skyrocket, instability would occur in financial markets, and the Federal deficit would soar. The United States has a special responsibility to itself and the world to meet its obligations. It means we have a well-earned reputation for reliability and credibility – two things that set us apart from much of the world."
Who said that, wingnutia? I'll leave it to you to find out.
W raised the debt ceiling 7 times. Where were you then, brave patriots? Reagan raised it 17 times. How many times has Obama raised it?
"That (defaulting) would be a financial disaster, not only for our country but for the worldwide economy. Remember, the American people on election day said, 'we want to cut spending and we want to create jobs.' And you can't create jobs if you default..." Beohner.
Any of you left with even a smidgen of brain tissue would have to know that I, troglaman, could deluge you again and again with people of your own persuasion who think defaulting is the equivalent of sticking a burning ember up your ass after drinking a fifth of 151.
And it's right before your eyes. You fuckers are the stupidest collection of living cells on the planet.
For those of you who think allowing us default is OK...
The deficit will immediately go up. Not because we've foolishly spent our money on roads and power lines. No. The interest on our debt will go up. Have you thought about what the interest on 13 trillion dollars is? Want it to go up?
YES YOU DO!!!!
Hopeless dipshits. Jesus. What's it fucking take?
The DSA members in Congress (which are mainly Troglaman Clones and Moonbats) are hell bent on destroying our economy and undermining our future, there is no longer any coherent argument that can be made to say otherwise.
I say the debt limit CANNOT be raised under any circumstances. This will not cause a default as The Obamassiah's lap dog media whores are howling. That would only happen if The One or his minion, the Secretary of the Treasury, refused to make the interest payments on the national debt. What it WILL do however is force hard choices about spending on programs. The Obamassiah has made it clear he's as stupid as Troglaman The Troll by implying he will stop payments to Social Security recepients, veterans pensions, the disabled and active duty military and has flat out said he'll slash national defense to pay for food stamp programs because that's what people want.
In the 2010 election, the public flat out demanded the spending spree STOP. The only way to do that is NOT RAISE THE DEBT CEILING. And in 2012 the public will need to take step two and toss The One and the remaining DSA fools out on their asses for creating all this havoc.
"I say the debt limit CANNOT be raised under any circumstances...there is no longer any coherent argument that can be made to say otherwise" jj
And if it is wrong now, it was wrong then. But you supported it then. It happened when you supported invading Iraq. It happened when you supported invading Afghanistan. It happened when you supported Bush tax cuts. It happened when you supported Medicare D. And you ran up the deficit around 7 trillion while raising the debt ceiling 7 times.
Did you have a problem then? No, jj, you didn't.
Fuck you. You either explain your come to Jesus moment and explain your mistakes...or make an argument that you've been right all along. It's one or the other.
You won't because you can't, dumbass. But I'd love for you to try. I truly would.
Fueled by hate and absolutely terrified of reality, TROGLAMAN - The Official Troll of the DUmmie FUnnies Blog Site and The Sick Perverted Clone of William Rivers Pitt - repeatedly power-slammed his head up his ass in a blind rage while howling like a mad dog
Geeze...missed your meds again, Troll? Reality forcing you to pound your head up your ass more than even you like, Guttersnipe? Hmmmmm??????
Let's see what little coherence I can get from this latest mad dog rant....
"And if it is wrong now, it was wrong then." - Troglaman, the vicious hate-mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe
And your point?
"But you supported it then." - Troglaman The Troll.
That's because we could pay it off then...but everything reaches its limit and so has the Federal Government's credit limit. Whether you accept that fact or not, Guttersnipe, is immaterial. The Obamassiah who you blindly support went on a spending spree to pay off his party's true constituents - the political hack class. And the whole time he flatly lied that it would spur the economy and save jobs. If there is any explaining to do around here, Guttersnipe, it's from you and your ilk to me and people on this blog who live in the real world.
"It happened when you supported invading Iraq. It happened when you supported invading Afghanistan. It happened when you supported Bush tax cuts. It happened when you supported Medicare D. And you ran up the deficit around 7 trillion while raising the debt ceiling 7 times." - TROGLAMAN - The Sick Perverted Clone of William Rivers Pitt
WOW...I had no idea I possessed such god-like super powers that I could personally run up a $7 trillion dollar debt and raise the debt ceiling by decree seven times. I'm sorry I missed that moment. But back to reality - you don't know what the hell I support or don't support you sorry Troll because reality forces you to slam your head up your ass rather than face up to it. Your moral cowardice makes your understanding of reality impossible. And just for the record I didn't back Medicare D or the bailouts before Bush left office. And I sure as hell didn't back The Obamassiah tripling down on such stupidity when he took power.
"Fuck you. You either explain your come to Jesus moment and explain your mistakes...or make an argument that you've been right all along. It's one or the other. - Troglaman the Arrogant Troll, power-slamming his head repeatedly up his ass in a blind rage.
Sorry, Troll, but you don't set the rules around here. The only mistake around here is you. And your sexual shortcomings are your own headaches, maybe if you quit power-slamming your head up your ass you'd be better off. But then again, as The Sick Perverted Clone of William Rivers Pitt, I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Evidently Troglaman The Guttersnipe wants the debt ceiling just automatically jacked up over and over and screw the consequences. Just what one would expect from a deliberately ignorant Troll who replaces coherent rational thought with meaningless bullshit due to a lack of intellectual depth and moral backbone.
The "I got mine so screw you" attitude of Guttersnipe and the rest of his ilk have pushed the country to the brink of disaster and the only answer he and his Moonbat ilk have is to drive it over the cliff. The only choice this country has is not rack up any more debt and reform the entitlement programs. And if the Troglman Clones don't like that, too damn bad. They are the minority and they can get screwed. Most of this is their fault and now they finally have to own up to it whether they like it or not.
"And if it is wrong now, it was wrong then." the mighty trog
"And your point?" jj
That is the point, you stupid shit. If it is wrong now, it was wrong then.
Why don't you make a reasonable argument for Bush raising the debt limit 7 times while he was in office? Because you can't, that's why. In fact, you supported it.
You didn't complain about the fact that the deficit was going through the roof while W was in office. Why? Because you have the brains of a fucking clam, that's why.
So just shut the fuck up, you stupid slug. Until you justify Reagan doing it 17 times and W doing it 7 times...and until you can give one reason why Obama shouldn't do it ONCE, then just shut you friggin pie hole. Want me to ask it again? Fine.
Why did Reagan raise the debt ceiling 17 times and why did W raise it 7 times? What was their justification?
jj won't respond to this. He can't. He'll just continue his "cramming his head up his ass" shit and call it good.
Step up, shithead. Why was it OK then and it's not OK now?
None of you CAN answer that. None of you WILL answer that. Your depth of knowledge has to do with whatever Rush or Sean said yesterday on the radio.
Fucking coconuts.
"Evidently Troglaman The Guttersnipe wants the debt ceiling just automatically jacked up over and over and screw the consequences." jj
No...you guys have been jerry-jacking the debt ceiling for fucking ever. Automatically. YOU CANNOT PROVE ME WRONG.
Go ahead and try. So why'd you do it?
You did do it, btw...raise the debt ceiling. You did it dozens of times. Do you have any idea why?
Of course you don't!!! Silly me for asking.
Power-slamming his head up his ass in a blind rage and terrified of the impending collision of his fantasy universe with reality, TROGLAMAN - The Official Troll of the DUmmie FUnnies Blog Site - spewed mental excrement everywhere while howling like a mad dog and producing nothing coherent...
Like I said, Guttersnipe, you - like your god, The Obamassiah - just want to keep jacking up the debt limit and screw the consequences while all the time screaming "I got mine, so screw you". I told you exactly what the problems are, Guttersnipe, and you responded the same way as always by power-slamming your head up your ass in a blind rage at reality.
You are one among many, Guttersnipe, who owe the country an explanation as to why you have supported the destruction of the private sector economy and the attempt to crush our society. You can't because you are intellectually vacant and morally corrupt and cowardly. Pounding your head up your over and over is a sick pathetic way to face reality, but since that's all you've got, Guttersnipe, just keep it up you coward.
"...you have supported the destruction of the private sector economy and the attempt to crush our society." jackin jerry
WTF?
Holy shit! I'm the fucking anti-christ. So let me give this a try..."I MIGHTILY SMITE THEE IN THE NAME OF SATAN, JACKIN JERRY!" (Let me know if you break out in warts or something, would you?).
But this is what jerry passes off as some sort of proof, some sort of explanation..."I told you exactly what the problems are, Guttersnipe..."
But I, troglaman, thinks it's a preview of next week's episode of "See? I Really AM Crazy!!"
Talking to you, jj, is like asking someone what they would like for dinner and having them reply "A couple tire irons and some slug-bait on the side".
What the hell do you say next?
Anyway, why don't any one of you step up and answer this - Will defaulting raise the deficit? Yes or no.
Will defaulting create jobs? Yes or no.
Will defaulting damage the economy? Yes or no.
But screw it. You'll STILL want to do it anyway. You'll find a way.
Astonishing.
Crazy Stinkin Jackin-Jerry Wagons is what you all are. No shit. Just accept it...a bunch of stinkin jackin-jerry wagons.
Hey...and this Norwegian guy. Wasn't he a visitor over at Geller's site?
I heard he thought Obama was a marxist. Sound familiar? Of course not!
He thought there were too many Muslims around. Sound familiar? Of course not! Who could possibly think...
He thought their immigration policies were fucked up because of too many undesirable immigrants. Sound familiar? Of course not!
And the delicious irony is that many of you could not tell the difference between a Muslim terrorist attack and the actions of one of your own.
Hmmm
Well sonofabitch....Troglatwit really is Will Pitt...
Fueled by hate and howling like a mad dog, TROGLAMAN - The Sick Perverted Clone of William Rivers Pitt - power-slammed his head repeatedly up his ass like a jackhammer spewing worthless mental excrement and being a world-class jackass:
::: sigh :::
Geeze...let's see if there anything coherent in these crazed rants.....
"Holy shit! I'm the fucking anti-christ." - Troglaman the Hate-Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe
Not quite, but damn close sad to say.
"But this is what (the person I can't hold a candle to intellectually) passes off as some sort of proof, some sort of explanation..."I told you exactly what the problems are, Guttersnipe..."
But I, troglaman, thinks it's a preview of next week's episode of "See? I Really AM Crazy!!""- Troglaman The Guttersnipe
Which underscores the fact that reality causes you to relentlessly slam your head up your ass because you are too intellectually shallow and morally corrupt to face.
As to rest of your rant, just typical meaningless howlings of a crazed Moonbat as it slams its head up its ass Guttersnipe, and not worth anyone's time or consideration.
"The Obamassiah has made it clear he's as stupid as Troglaman The Troll by implying he will stop payments to Social Security recepients, veterans pensions, the disabled and active duty military and has flat out said he'll slash national defense to pay for food stamp programs because that's what people want." stinkin jackin-jerry wagon
Wrong
Like I said, Guttersnipe, you - like your god, The Obamassiah - just want to keep jacking up the debt limit and screw the consequences while all the time screaming "I got mine, so screw you". stinkin jackin-jerry wagon
Wrong
"The only choice this country has is not rack up any more debt and reform the entitlement programs." stinkin jackin-jerry wagon
Wrong
"Which underscores the fact that reality causes you to relentlessly slam your head up your ass because you are too intellectually shallow and morally corrupt to face." stinkin jackin-jerry wagon
Break out in warts yet, jer? Or am I still only "this close" to being the anti-christ? I assure you I'll keep working on it. Hopefully, in the near future, you'll write a children's story called "Fungus Is My Friend" and it will be a big best seller. You'll thank me then, asshole.
So what was it you were saying about being intellectually shallow and morally corrupt?
Ladies and Gentleman...I, troglaman, in a blinding burst of satanic brilliance, have all ready devised a test that should measure these very failings!!! And it was previewed here, on this very site. You, you privileged bastards, have been recently asked these very questions -
Will defaulting raise the deficit? Yes or no.
Will defaulting create jobs? Yes or no.
Will defaulting damage the economy? Yes or no.
Since we all know the answers, the whole kit-and-kaboodle comes down to who wants it and who doesn't. There's your "Morality and Corruption" test, stinkin jackin-jerry wagon.
I don't. You do.
Judges?
Troglaman The Hate-Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe power-slammed his head up his ass and emitted the following worthless mental excrement:
""The Obamassiah has made it clear he's as stupid as Troglaman The Troll by implying he will stop payments to Social Security recepients, veterans pensions, the disabled and active duty military and has flat out said he'll slash national defense to pay for food stamp programs because that's what people want." - Jerome (who compared to me, the mightly pathetic Troglaman is more brilliant than Albert Einstein).
Wrong"
Really? So you believe your god, The Obamassiah, is a GENIUS for pulling that stunt, eh Guttersnipe? Well, thanks for letting us know.
Troglaman The Hate-Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe power-slammed his head up his ass and emitted the following worthless mental excrement:
"Like I said, Guttersnipe, you - like your god, The Obamassiah - just want to keep jacking up the debt limit and screw the consequences while all the time screaming "I got mine, so screw you".
Wrong
Prove it. Since you have done what I've said you've done, you can't you pathetic liar.
Troglaman The Hate-Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe power-slammed his head up his ass and emitted the following worthless mental excrement:
"The only choice this country has is not rack up any more debt and reform the entitlement programs."
Wrong
You may be right on that one, Guttersnipe. They could decide to just keep jacking up the debt limit and eventually we wind up like Greece in which case the economy disintegrates, society crumbles and everything you keep howling will happen if we don't just keep automatically jacking up the debt limit happens anyway with no way to fix it. In other words, the government could choose to commit economic suicide.
Troglaman The Hate-Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe power-slammed his head up his ass in a blind rage while howling like a mad dog out of fear of reality...
Pathetic...but not unexpected from Troglaman The Troll.
Let's theoretically apply jj's economic strategy to real life...
jj: Can I speak to the loans manager please?
Bank of America: I'm the loans manager, Mr. Stinkwagon. How can I help you?
jj: You know that loan I have with you?...you can shove it up your everlovin' hate-filled ass.
BofA: What? Your home loan, Mr. Stinkwagon?
jj: Don't tell me you can't find the money. I'm not going to fall for that. You HAVE the money.
BofA: Calm down, Mr. Stinkwagon. Now, you do realize that if you don't pay, you could loose...
jj: Please! Your little stunts don't impress me. And quit threatening old people, it's despicable.
BofA:.......
jj: Clearly, you have supported the destruction of the private sector economy and the attempt to crush our society." Click.
Now that I look at this way, it might fucking work! Home loans. Car loans. Whatever. Let's all give it a whirl and meet tomorrow night to measure our successes.
Remember - Its all about delivery.
I'm truly curious if most you agree with jj's view. Kat? Elrond? Adam? Not that it would surprise me if you do.
"I supported it...because we could pay it off then..."
Then this...
"But you supported it then." - Troglaman The Troll.
That's because we could pay it off then" Mr. Stinkwagon
That's why you supported it? Because we could pay it off...we could afford it? Fuck the venture, just make sure we can pay for it.
The bill's due, Mr. Stinkwagon. You, brave patriot, just don't want to pay it.
For some reason you thought unpaid wars, tax reductions, billion dollar oil subsidies...shit like that...was, oh I don't know...free maybe?
I hate to tell you, but we're paying it off as we speak. So why are you complaining? You said we could afford it. What did you imagine paying it off would feel like?
Welcome to your world, Mr. Stinkwagon. Like it?
Fueled by hate and terrified of reality, TROGLAMAN - The Official Troll of the DUmmie FUnnies Blog Site - angrily and viciously power-slammed his head repeatedly up his ass while howling like a mad dog and emitting the following piles of worthless mental excrement:
"The bill's due....You, brave patriot, just don't want to pay it." - Troglaman The Guttersnipe, lying like a rug
The only people who don't want to pay it is you and your ilk, Guttersnipe. That's why you're howling for the debt limit increase, you don't want to pay the bills, you want to leave it for someone down the road to pay. Sorry, Guttersnipe, but the bill is due and it's time to pay up. You and you ilk are frightened because you now must account for your actions.
"I hate to tell you, but we're paying it off as we speak. So why are you complaining? You said we could afford it. What did you imagine paying it off would feel like?" - Troglaman The Guttersnipe, continuing to lie
You're a liar AND insane, Guttersnipe. Since when does spending a $100 billion a month more than you take in constitute paying off our bills? Maybe in your twisted perverted universe it does but in the real world where everyone else lives, that's crazy and it MUST stop whether you and your ilk like it or not.
"Welcome to your world....Like it?" - Troglaman, the vicious hate-mongering Anti-American guttersnipe
Actually, it's your world that you and your ilk have tried to ram down everyone's else's throats. That's why you're scared shitless, Guttersnipe - you're about to have that world brought crashing down around your ears within the next 18 months and you are scared to death, which why you keep power-slamming your head up your ass ever more viciously and your comments are more and more divorced from reality. Justice is coming, Guttersnipe, you can't deal with and you know you can't run from it. The bill is due, Guttersnipe and you know you won't like having to pay it and yet you scared shitless because you know you'll have to pay.
troggy,
I try not to get involved in bar room fights, I just stand in a corner and protect the beer.
Anon 4:17PM is me, I hit the wrong button.
Looks like Troglafuck is in rare form lately.
Not that it's a good thing, just he's more of a useless jackass than usual.
"The only people who don't want to pay it is you and your ilk, Guttersnipe. That's why you're howling for the debt limit increase, you don't want to pay the bills, you want to leave it for someone down the road to pay." Mr. Stinkwagon
And while W was putting 7 trillion on the credit card you were ponying up by sending donations to the US Treasury? While W was decreasing revenue, you and your buddies would toss the IRS a few bucks now and then. You're so full of shit.
So make the case you haven't left it to your grandchildren, fuckhead. Make it. I, troglaman, will speak for them.
You haven't paid for shit.
In fact, you're still screaming for bigger breaks. You brave patriots want to pay even less.
You haven't been right once during this thread, Mr. Stinkwagon, sir. Not once. You can't point to one factual statement, other than the fact that I OCCASIONALLY like to pound my head up my ass.
Other than that...can you point to something you said that was remotely true? One thing?
You remain a bombastic dumbass. A turtle. A self-destructive insect. You don't know shit. Why?
A default would raise the deficit.
A default would damage the economy.
A default would damage job creation.
That happens the exact moment we default. But that's what you want.
Interest goes up on every loan you may have, including credit cards, car loans, home loans, business loans... It'll take a month or two but that's going to happen if we default. No doubt about it. But that's what you want.
I can back-up every single one of these assertions, Mr. Stinkwagon. And at every turn, you can't. So surprising!
You've already kicked the debt-can down the road, fuckhead...it happened when W raised the debt ceiling 7 times. Get that? We put off the payment. The money he borrowed is now due. And even though you absolutely supported spending the money, you fooled us all by having no intention to pay it.
That fact has everything to do with you...and nothing to do with me.
You're fucking my grand kids over. Yours too. You just can't see it...because you're a dumbshit. It's probably not your fault.
"A default would raise the deficit."
"A default would would damage the economy."
"A default would damage job creation."
We have all three conditions already, could a default do any more damage?
"you've already kicked the debt-can down the road."
Indeed, and now it's being kicked down the road until after the 2012 elections. Obama has just been handed a $2.4 trillion increase in the debt ceiling (in addition to the $4 trillion he's aready incurred). So soon we'll owe $16.4 trillion to China and Japan. We're all going to be paying more taxes, even you, there's not enough rich people to squeeze. Enjoy your shit sandwich.
TROGLAMAN - The Official Hate-Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe of the DUmmie FUnnies Blog Site - frantically power-slammed his head repeatedly up his ass like a jackhammer out of hate and fear and emitted pile upon pile of worthless mental excrement...
You are the only clueless bombastic dumbass on this site, Guttersnipe. You and your ilk are the ones most responsible for this mess, Guttersnipe and no matter how often you power-slam your head up your ass, how much worthless mental excrement you emit, how loudly you scream your lies, you can't escape the ultimate responsibility you and your fellow Moonbats and guttersnipes have for this mess, Guttersnipe. You and your ilk bear the biggest responsibility for all this. And that, along with the fact your fantasy world is slowly being crushed around you, has you scared shitless and like every moral coward, you act like the 8-year-old playground bully to try to cover up your fear. Sorry, Guttersnipe, but that ain't gonna cut it.
The only group kicking the can down the road again are the jackasses you blindly support since you're a flaming jackass, Guttersnipe. That so called "deal" from July 31 does exactly what you keep howling about - kick the can down the road. And it was created by the cretins you back and adore.
You can't handle all these facts Guttersnipe, you're too stupid and cowardly to do so. You still power-slam your head up your ass rather than deal with the real world and think it makes you smart and makes things right. It doesn't. If you want to know who is screwing over your grandkids (if you have any, which I doubt) look in the mirror, you'll find him if you have the guts to look - which I doubt.
So keep power-slamming your head repeatedly up your ass, Guttersnipe, in the end it's all you've got and it will never be enough. I'm more than willing to keep sticking reality in your face no matter how many times you power-slam your head up your ass, coward. It seems everyone is in some twisted way getting a laugh out of your stupidity, so keep on keeping on Guttersnipe. These days we can all use a laugh even a sad one like we get from your blantant ignorance, lies and stupidity, Guttersnipe.
Guttersnipe and his ilk doesn't understand that there will be no default unless his personal god, The Obamassiah, orders one. He's been shown that fact, and he reacted as always - he power-slammed his head up his ass while howling like a mad dog.
Guttersnipe refuses to accept that raising the debt limit will insure a downgrade in the national credit rating (unless Moody's and S&P are not the non-partisan groups they have been claiming to be, and I suspect they may not be as non-partisan as one might believe). Everything Guttersnipe is screaming raising the debt limit will stop is going to happen if the debt limit is raised and he'll do what he always does - power-slam his head up his like a jackhammer and lie like a rug.
Bush's increases in the national debt were notorious and opposed by senator Obama. Yet president Obama has presided over record back-to-back increases in the same national debt.
"You're fucking my grandchildren over. Yours too."
How right you are troggy, the United States sinks $4 billion deeper in debt every day and my grandchildren's share is more than $30,000 each.
Increasing the debt ceiling by $2.4trillion gets Obama through reelection with much attention called to his starring role in this fiasco. Major economic disruption is already under way, look at the unemployment rate, the millions on public assistance and the devalued dollar(bought any gas lately?). Most of it due to Obama's insane spending spree.
P.S. Per the Congressional Budget Office, a baby born this years owes $30,000 as its share of the federal debt.
By 2020 its share will grow to $50,000.
By 2023 its share will be $58.971.
By 2028 its share will be $80,650.
Our debt has grown from $4 trillion in 2000 to $9 trillion in 2008 to $14.5 trillion in FY 2011.
Obama has accomplihed in 30 months what it took eight years for Bush to achieve.
I don't think our grandchildren will think of us fondly.
From my 2:05 PM
accomplihed = accomplished
I are Troglaman. Me am brilliant.
Me want debt ceiling doubled. I are worried about default so me think we need to spend money now. Me want to double national debt cause it be W's fault.
I are genius who worships Obama. Obama screw old people, evil rich, military, veterans, and cripples and me think that are brilliant like I.
Me am brilliant since me know we never broke since government print money as much need to make me happy.
I are genius since me know you take all money from rich and budget will always work.
Me lie when me talk of grandchild since I no give a fuck since me be dead by time they pay debt bill.
I are Troglaman. Me am brilliant.
I are Troglaman. Me am brilliant.
"I try not to get involved in bar room fights, I just stand in a corner and protect the beer." kat
And so you should. It's the noblest of tasks and takes much courage. And no matter how this turns out, kat...no matter how bloodied and bruised I become...I will find solace in the knowledge that you are protecting the one and only thing that unites us all. The Holy Grail, if you will.
If I don't emerge from this titanic clash of wills kat, remember this: Led Zeppelin and beer is even better. So be brave and get as much Led Zeppelin shit as you can possibly get.
I, troglaman, know I can count on you. Thank you, kat. And God Bless You.
"We have all three conditions already, could a default do any more damage?" kat
Yes. It will make every single one of those conditions even worse. There's no doubt about it. That's not a liberal viewpoint, that's a fact.
Why would anyone choose that? Why?
Because you're all dumshit dingleberries. That's why.
Troggy,
No one has chosen debt default as I could have told you. Congress and the spendaholic in the White House have cobbled a "compromise" that ensures another $7 TRILLION (probably more) in federal debt in the next 10 years.
Let's do some math: $14.2 Trilllion (current debt)+ $2.4 Trillion (new debt ceiling)+ $7 Trillion (additional debt in the next 10 years) = $23.6 Trillion by 2021. This debt will never be paid off, it can only be serviced. Everyone's taxes will soar just to pay the interest on this insane debt. Doesn't make any difference what your income is, you're going to pay more taxes, lots more.
And America's credit rating will fall in any event.
You're fucked, I'm fucked, our children are fucked. Our grandchildren's future has been taken from them.
""We have all three conditions already, could a default do any more damage?" kat
Yes. It will make every single one of those conditions even worse. There's no doubt about it. That's not a liberal viewpoint, that's a fact.
Why would anyone choose that? Why?
Because you're all dumshit dingleberries. That's why." - Troglaman The Guttersnipe, power-slamming his head repeatedly up his ass in a blind rage.
You're the only dumbshit around here, Guttersnipe, because your personal god, The Obamassiah, and his minions have succeeded in making almost certain that if Moody's and S&P are independent operators they WILL downgrade the US credit rating. Thanks to the people you and others supported, Guttersnipe, you're going to get exactly what you've been howling about can't happen if the credit limit was raised.
To paraphrase Elrond, you're fucked, Guttersnipe, and you and your ilk just fucked over everyone else in the country. Congratulations you flaming jackass.
Led Zeppelin and beer is even better.
Led Zeppelin and Bell's Two Hearted Ale is best.
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