"We are f*cked"
The DUmmies have given up all hope...and change as you can see by the very title of their THREAD, "We are f*cked." All because of the tax cut compromise proposed by Obama yesterday. What is really interesting about Obama's willingness to extend the Bush tax cuts is that is an admission by his administration that those tax cuts were effective in the first place and are important for the economy. When those tax cuts were first proposed nearly 10 years ago, the Democrats scoffed at them as being insignificant in helping the middle class. However, Obama is now admitting that they are so important for the middle class that he is now willing to extend them for the RIIIIIIIICCCCHHHHHHH. All this has sent the Democrats and the DUmmies into a state of deep funk. So let us now watch the DUmmies agonize over the Obama tax cuts cave in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that this will now become a BIG issue for the 2012 election, is in the [barackets]:
We are f*cked.
[If you say so.]
We are all supply siders now. We have set a precedent that cannot be undone.
[Good news. ObamaCare CAN be undone simply by withholding funding in Congress.]
We support taxcuts to get our economy going over whatever other processes available.
[Processes like forced collectivization.]
We support unlimited war and indefensible defense budgets.
[Like the unlimited war on poverty going on for over 40 years?]
We support massive deficits if it helps the wealthy.
[So that was the reason for ObamaCare.]
We support cuts in social programs if it helps the wealthy.
[Cut midnight basketball programs to help maintain the trust fund of William Rivers Pitt.]
Do not deceive yourself. There is no one looking out for you.
[John Kerry has your back.]
We are screwed.
[Ben Burch will do the honors and now on to the other DUmmies...]
it's depressing, so much for hope
[...And change. That's down the tubes too.]
Or change.
[I swear I didn't read that when I wrote my previous comment but, yeah, change is gone too. Thrown under the bus with hope.]
This is what happens when the Wall Street money people own both Parties.
[Timothy Geithner has your back.]
I am so incredibly sad.
[Boo hoo! You want a hankie?]
We are chaining ourselves to anvils and jumping overboard because we have decided everyone is entitled to their own version of reality and we can't agree that a temperature graph going up means the temperature is going up.
[In the DUmmie reality up is not the opposite of down but is three miles east of Philadelphia.]
NO no no no...I do have hope! and you won't take it away from me. how bad it was during the depression...then we got the New Deal! I will not give in to hopelessness....
[Don't give up hope. In 2013 President Christie will have a new deal.]
we can reverse it if we refuse to lie down and take it.
[No need to lie down. Just bend over and take it.]
Totally deflated. and angry
[You want Mr. Rogers to sing you a happy song?]
this is nonsense the whole thing
[t's a beautiful day in this neighborhood,
A beautiful day for a neighbor,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?]
I think what happened on December 12, 2000 was the death sentence for America. What happened the following year on September 11 was just the funeral pyre to commemorate it. How the hell do you recover from eight fascist years of the Bush/Cheney Imperial pResidency?!
[It's a neighborly day in this beautywood,
A neighborly day for a beauty,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?]
My gut told me in 1980 and again in 2000 that we were missing major jump points. There may not be another in time.
[I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you,
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.]
F*ck it. Guess I'll get high and listen to Pink Floyd while I still have food and electricity.
[So let's make the most of this beautiful day,
Since we're together, we might as well say,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?]
Exactly, this is a country run by and for millionaires and billionaires. We, the rest of the country get constantly thrown under the curb. Shit, I'm suprised these assholes haven't tried to bring back 1790's era politics where their class was the only one allowed to vote. It's pretty clear we don't matter.
[Won't you please,
Won't you please,
Please won't you be my neighbor?]
posted by PJ-Comix at 9:22 AM
34 Comments:
I am glad that they have realized they do not matter to the heads of their own party, too. Plus, I am unaware of any time in history where they have mattered to intelligent people.
"We are chaining ourselves to anvils and jumping overboard because we have decided everyone is entitled to their own version of reality..."
Yes, that's exactly what you did.
I am amazed at how fast Republicans are to support a bad deal between Obama and the RINO's that will drive up the deficit.
You do realize that if it fails we can get a better deal next time?
If we can raise taxes retroactively, we can lower them that way too. Without running up the deficit to do it.
Meanwhile the DUmmies and leftists reaction are pure comedy gold.
"We are chaining ourselves to anvils and jumping overboard...
Do you have any video? Because I'd really like to make some popcorn and watch that.
SO NOTHING ABOUT THE *SPIT* MOSSAD TRAINING SHARKS TO ATTACK BROWN PEOPLE IN EGYPT WHILE IGNORING THE *SPIT* PASTY WHITE RULING CLASS?!
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?ID=198286&R=R1
"Guess I'll get high and listen to Pink Floyd while I still have food and electricity>"
When self-pity goes over the cliff.
Thankfully you can't commit suicide jumping out of basement windows.
"Do not deceive yourself, there is no one looking out for you."
Big Brother has sold out and even Mom and Dad have abandoned the helpless DUmmies.
"We are fucked."
Sadly, getting fucked is one thing that eludes most DUmmies.
"Guess I'll get high and listen to Pink Floyd while I still have food and electricity"
Hey, a DUmmie popped in from 1978. Times don't really change much, do they? Ah, don't worry ya fuckin' retard....we'll fix that for ya in '12 like we did in '80.
The hysterical DUmmies are ignoring the recent elections, the Democrats were badly beaten in federal and state elections---Obama's(and his DUmmie supporters) politics have been decisively rejected. Obama has to deal with that reality, the DUmmies don't--they'll continue to live in la-la land
So what's the Democrat Left going to do? Will the lame duck Congress kill the deal so everyone's taxes will go up on January 1, 2011?
Something's gotta give, I think it will be the Dem left; either way, look for more internal strife in Donkeyland. Watch for Keith Olbermann's head exploding in rage.
Such drama queens.
Elrond - don't be surprised if the DSA manages to screw things up and insure that there will be a massive tax hike on Jan. 1
"If we can raise taxes retroactively, we can lower them that way too. Without running up the deficit to do it." UCC
You couldn't explain this statement if the life of your children, grandma and grandpa and your dog, depended on it.
Any of you ready to tell me how any of this is going to reduce the deficit? You can't. Because it's going to raise the deficit around 700 billion two years from now.
And yet even today, the RepubliDUms blocked a bill giving 17 billion to Social Security benefactors. A big whopping $250 each.
Hmmmm...$700 billion goes to the top 1 or 2 percent and we just can't afford $17 billion going to our parents and grand parents.
Better be careful of what you wish for, you stupid asshats.
" how bad it was during the depression...then we got the New Deal!"
And the Depression dragged on for, what, 10, 12, 14 more years?
troglaman's posts seem to be getting smaller. Not to mention he only posted one monologue this time. I also noticed it's not nearly as loony-toon vitriolic as usual.
Hey troglaman, everything ok at home there Champ? Maybe you're not getting enough sleep, or too much as the case may be.
Ouch, half a dozen Dem policies fell on their face today. Gitmo will remain open, DADT is is pretty much toast. Incredible because Dems have the majority and they still can't get anything done.
The new candidates won't even take office for a couple more weeks. Geesh, DUmmies, I'd suggest you just stay in bed.
trogalturd is embarrased by being revealed, once again, for the total illiterate that he is.
It must be a barren and sad little world they inhabit. To be so eager to condem everyone else for insufficient purity of thought. Bet the constant dreariness of the grey color of the concrete in mom's cellar must really drain a persons soul after the first decade or so.
And oh... is troggy usually this much an insufferable clown?
The kind of guy who's own family avoids him even on Christmas in fear he'd rant and scream at his 90 year old grandma because she once said FDR wasn't that great.
"And the Depression dragged on for, what, 10, 12, 14 more years?" literery laz
You're so fucking stupid, laz. I keep hoping for one, small, redeeming, tiny little word...and it never comes.
Explain this brilliant comment...written entirely by your little brain...and your little fingers (bravely trying to respond to the weak little insecticidal impulses from your itty-bitty insecticidal brain).
At least you're trying, sort of.
Just how long-lasting was the Great Depression ("10, 12, 14 more years?")? You can look it up you know, dumbshit.
And who was in charge just prior?
And what was it you said about FDR having nothing to do with getting us out of it?
This should be good. I'm going to transform you from a insect into a turnip, laz (that's a step down, in case you were wondering).
Troglaman, it is pretty well accepted,by pretty much anyone that can count, that FDR prolonged the depression by years.
Mark said...
And oh... is troggy usually this much an insufferable clown?
Worse, actually.
"And what was it you said about FDR having nothing to do with getting us out of it?"
FDR had nothing to do with getiin America out of the Great Depression.
His policies made the Great Depression deeper and to last longer than it had to.
"English, muthafukka. DO. YOU. SPEAK. IT."
"FDR had nothing to do with getiin America out of the Great Depression." literery laz
So his nearly 16 year presidency during and after the great depression had nothing to do with the fact that we got out of it...even though we did get out of it during Roosevelt's tenure. FDR must've done something right, you stupid douche-nozzle.
laz figures he can just say shit like this and make it true. He doesn't have a fucking clue. He just heard it from someone like Pills or Hannity or whomever and that AUTOMATICALLY makes it true.
Douche-nozzle. Without question.
troggy,
Many economists agree that FDR did not end the Depression. Certainly unemploymeent remained high through
1940. 1933 unemployment rate 23.2%,
1935 21.3%, 1936 15.3%, 1937 15%,
1937 15.1%, 1938 17.4%, 1940 14.6%.
The unemployement rate did no fall to pre-Depression levels until 1943when 10 million men were out of the work force and in the military.
I could go on, want to discuss it or are you a douche nozzle?
BTW, FDR's Presidency lasted 12 years and 3 months, not 16 years.
"The unemployement rate did no fall to pre-Depression levels until 1943when 10 million men were out of the work force and in the military." elrond
What precluded this especially disastrous era? What caused it?
What you don't address is the fact that we DID come out of it and FDR was the president at the time. That fact is indisputable. We came out of the depression and FDR was president at the time. The decisions he rendered made a difference. Indisputable.
Therefore you're a reindeer dumbass. Probably the one Palin tried to shoot the other night.
troglaman, your brain is awesome.
By your own standard, Hitler saved us from the Depression. So, Hitler should get all the credit, instead of his buddy, FDR.
Troggy,
Sorry, but saying FDR ended the Depression doesn't make it a reality.
Unemployment never fell below 12% during the 30s; bad policies (NRA, AAA), high taxes, high tariffs and anti-business rhetoric stalled recovery. In fact, in 1937-38 the American economy experienced a new depression within the Great Depression, by May 1938 the unemployment rate was up to 20%.
Mass unemployment disappeared during WWII due to the drafting of 12 million people into the military. Industrial production did increase during the war years but it did not improve economic conditions in the country since all the new activity was directed at war production, not consumer desired goods and services.
The American economy did not recover from the effects of the Depression until 1948,three years after FDR's death. The Stock Market did not attain pre-crash levels until 1953, eight years after FDR's death.
BTW, Hoover's policies were as misguided as FDR's.
"troglaman, your brain is awesome. By your own standard, Hitler saved us from the Depression." paul
No. This is what YOU think I said even though I didn't. That makes YOUR brain awesome...dumbshit awesome.
troglaman, I did not figure that you understood what you said.
You said that FDR was president at the time that we came out of the depression and that "The decisions he rendered made a difference. Indisputable." By your very same standard, you believe that Hitler got us out of the depression. That is YOUR standard of causation. Of course, you are a moron that doesn't understand causation.
Again, I did not think that you understood what YOU said.
"The American economy did not recover from the effects of the Depression until 1948,three years after FDR's death. The Stock Market did not attain pre-crash levels until 1953, eight years after FDR's death. BTW, Hoover's policies were as misguided as FDR's." elrond
So since things stabilized 3 years after FDR's death, that means he had nothing to do with the recovery. Sure. And Hoover was misguided?
I don't understand what you're trying to say, elrond. You admit things stabilized 3 years after FDR's death (wasn't that Truman's administration?) and that Hoover was misguided. Are we arguing about something?
I think not.
"Are we arguing about something?"
Yes, we're arguing as to whether FDR "cured" the Great Depression. You say "Yes" while I say "Hell, no!"
The Depression did eventually end, but FDR's polices did not end it, they prolonged it. What failed in the 1930s were governments, in their eagerness to to direct activity to achieve political ends.
"The Depression did eventually end, but FDR's polices did not end it..."
Then tell me how he prolonged it. Really. Lay it out.
How should have FDR handled things differently, elrond? Because you clearly think he fucked up. And you think you're smarter than FDR. I, troglaman, don't think you are. Maybe you could convince me.
Troggy,
As requested, a brief summary of FDR's follies:
1) The NRA imposed industrial cartels over virtually every sector of the American economy.
2) At the same time, the AAA controlled the price and production of American farming.
3) The monetary system was thrown into confusion and instability with the abandonment of the gold standard.
4) Taxes were raised.As a result many individuals and businesses simply reduced or halted production, especially as the New Deal wore on.
5)Budget deficits increased.
6) Giant public works projects were directly undertaken by the fedral government, increasing deficits while not helping unemployment.
7) FDR enacted a minimum wage law, strengthened union power and compulsory collective bargaining. It was good for the unions but bad for non-union workers: high paying jobs for the few and unemployment of everyone else. Remember, unemployment never dipped below 12%during the 30s. In 1938 (in the fifth year of the New Deal) it reached 20%.
8) FDR went on an anti-business crusade in 1936-7 that further weakened business confidence in the politcal and economic future.
These programs generated uncertainty in the private sector and addded to economic stagnation. Many businesses would not hire because they were not certain that risks to their property were few and managable.
Hello? Troggy? Any comment? Thought not.
"Hello? Troggy? Any comment? Thought not." elrond
Well...since these measures brought us out of the depression, I was sort of hoping you could convince why they didn't.
We did come out of it, elrond. You can't deny history. Maybe it would better serve you to understand why that happened.
Actually the burden of proof is on you. You're using post hoc logic. The Depression eventually ended, therefore the New DEal ended it. The facts, however, don't bear you out. Yes, the Depression eventually ended but its demise was delayed by New Deal policies that delayed its end while exacerbating its effects.
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