KOmmies Hail Linda Douglass...But Admit Obama Wants Single Payer
The White House Combats The Rightwing Crap
[HOORAY for Linda Douglass for fighting back against the vicious rightwing lies that Obama supports single payer! And HOORAY for Barack Obama for supporting single payer which we all favor!]
The republicans are now identified with pure emotion.
You can't stop it. It's not about love of country, or genuine disagreements in policy. It all about the negative part of the human spirit - fear, hatred, envy, greed, selfishness. There's always a component of humanity that embraces these things, and that's why we will never have a peaceful world.
[You can't stop it. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead. ]
I don't like the White House statement. I don't want just health insurance reform - I want health CARE reform. I don't like it when the WH plays with words like this statement, asking for our help.
[Psst! Not to worry. Barack is really our side. Pretending to be outraged over charges that he secretly supports single payer is just something we have to do for public consumption. Get it?]
I have yet to hear CNN call the townhall antics orchestrated.
[Good news! Since you have posted this, CNN has hopped aboard your loonie bandwagon.]
There's just way too much BS out there and something needs to be done about it.. Everything from 120 million people losing their insurance to pulling the plug on old people it needs to dealt with right away...
[You mean like the BS that Obama never said that he supported single payer which all you KOmmies support?]
Put the liars back on their heels. Responding tit for tat is not enough, then we are defensive. Put them on their heels and send out positive frames. They will just keep spewing the lies.
[Should we put Obama back on his heels? After all, he is the one in the videos claiming to support single payer.]
take the gloves off. call them what they are-liars and fearmongers who read whatever shit comes off the fax machine in the morning...
[Yeah, how dare they quote Obama accurately and show videos of him saying he supports single payer. This is an OUTRAGE!!!]
It would be nice if it had happened before the goon squads started shutting down the town hall meetings.
[The Thought Police were on recess but now they are back in action.]
They just spew garbage, garbage, garbage, and trust that the Democrats won't have time to combat all of it. I'm glad the White House isn't ducking it, though. They need to go toe-to-toe with these bastards and slug it out.
[Yeah! How dare they tell people what Obama said. Such dirty tactics!]
So glad they're doing this, and from what I hear it's just the beginning. Bravo, White House.
[Bravo, White House, for exposing how the evil rightwing stoops to quoting Obama accurately.]
it looks like we're picking up steam. Dems and Obama and grassroots are out there making the case. Knocking on doors, making calls, holding rallies and town halls.
[Yeah, go out there and make the case that Obama didn't say what he said.-]
the internet is only what you make of it. On balance, for every progressive accomplishment enabled by online organizing, some cheap right-wing attack is also better enabled.
[Posting videos of Obama saying he supported single payer (which you all favor) is a CHEAP RIGHT-WING ATTACK!!!
. . . there was a diary on the Rec List yesterday saying that defending and debunking = losing. So instead of debunking the disinformers and putting the truth out there, maybe we should just call them poopyheads.
[I think you've already initiated that plan.]
The reactionary forces in this country are powerful, but WE are more powerful IF WE ARE UNIFIED AND TOGETHER. Stay together, debunk them, fight back, and stay with your strength!
[How do you debunk videos showing Obama favoring single payer which you support? Weird.]
I saw the Drudge clip. Unfortunately, this video from Linda Douglass does not adequately answer the Drudge video. I wish she would have shown the broader context of the Drudge clips that she says were "taken out of context". Showing clips of President Obama in 2009 does not really counter the argument.
[You are just on the edge of having a brief moment of mental clarity. Close but not quite.]
I agree, the rebuttal was weak. the main thing about the Drudge Video is that they just blatantly lie.
[Of course. Obama didn't say what he said. He lied!]
Checked Drudge this morning and there is a new video that is uncut. It shows Obama saying he wants single payer but they need to get the White House, House of Representatives and The Senate first. If this is the real goal, I wish they would put this forward on its merit. If single payer is not the goal, they need to do a better job explaining why their system will not lead to single payer.
[Oops! You are getting way too close to the truth for comfort. The government-run health care plan that dares not speak its name...for now.]
Sorry, but this "taking action" is going to amount to a big fat nothing. It's a PR move at best. I wouldn't waste my time, quite frankly, unless there were some assurances that something would be DONE about the people behind the healthcare disinformation.
[Send them to The Hague for having the audacity to post videos showing Obama saying exactly what he said.]
The Comments on YouTube...for this video are beyond ignorant on the other side of this argument. It's really amazing.
[Damn those YouTubers for having common sense! How can they not buy the Linda Douglass argument that Obama didn't say what he said?]
This is a warning to anyone who claims to be a "conscientious objector" to health-care reform. You have been duly notified that we are watching you. If you think that being at a public forum excuses you from being civil, think again. We have you on video. Go to YouTube. Look at the videos there. If your face shows up in any of them, we can, and will, make sure that your place of work knows about it. If you apply for work anywhere in the country, and if someone recognizes you, you might be turned down for a job. It is that simple. Look -- we know that you aren't joking around. And neither are we.
[The KOmmie Thought Police have spoken! If you are guilty of a Thought Crime, we will hunt you down and send you directly to Room 101 for "re-eduation."]
I can't believe this crap the right is saying about Obama!
[But do you believe what Obama is saying about Obama? And now to the KOmmie references to the dirty little not-so-secret single payer which they support and are happy that Obama supports...but not in public.]
Thanks Matt Fudge for putting single-payer back into some discussion!
[Thanks Matt even though we have to publicly maintain the fiction that Obama does not support the same single payer that we support.]
Single Payer and WPA 2.0...NOW!!!
[Shhhh! Just don't include Obama in it although he is in it.]
The problem is that these words were spoken... Seems to me that the combo video of Obama/Frank does show that the real intent --be it future or otherwise-- of the public option is to usher in single payer. If they can't be honest about it (the administration), then stuff like this is going to continue to surface, casting clouds over the process. At that point, it doesn't matter whether one thinks single payer is a good idea or not. Trust is lost, and that really hurts the cause.
[GASP!!! You have dared to speak the truth and that is HERESY!!!]