Friday, February 01, 2008

"Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP"

Imagine nominating someone for president when the opposition party has the goods on him in terms of being a backstabber willing to abandon his own political party? That is exactly the case with John McCain as you can see in this ARTICLE titled, "Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP." This article details how in March 2001, McCain's chief poltical strategist, John Weaver (now a Democrat), approached a Democrat ex-congressman about McCain quitting the Republican party. This was at the same time that the Democrats were making such appeals to Senators Jim Jeffords and Lincoln Chaffee. The ex-congressman, Tom Downey, said he was surprised when Weaver proposed a possible party switch by his boss. You can read the full details about it in The Hill article. So why are so few Republicans aware of McCain almost splitting from the GOP? Because both the Democrats and the MSM want to wait for the most convenient time to release this information...namely after his nomination. Meanwhile the DUmmies are now eager for the nomination of McCain due to the future exposure of this story in a big way as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD accurately titled, "Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP." So let us now watch the DUmmies anticipate the nomination of backstabber John McCain in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, hoping that Republicans wake up from their mental lethargy by next Tuesday, is in the [brackets]:

Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP

[You can bet they will be saying that really loud after a McCain nomination.]

Source: The Hill

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) was close to leaving the Republican Party in 2001, weeks before then-Sen. Jim Jeffords (Vt.) famously announced his decision to become an Independent, according to former Democratic lawmakers who say they were involved in the discussions.

In interviews with The Hill this month, former Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) and ex-Rep. Tom Downey (D-N.Y.) said there were nearly two months of talks with the maverick lawmaker following an approach by John Weaver, McCain’s chief political strategist.

Democrats had contacted Jeffords and then-Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.) in the early months of 2001 about switching parties, but in McCain’s case, they said, it was McCain’s top strategist who came to them.

At the end of their March 31, 2001 lunch at a Chinese restaurant in Bethesda, Md., Downey said Weaver asked why Democrats hadn’t asked McCain to switch parties.

Downey, a well-connected lobbyist, said he was stunned.

[And I'll be stunned if the Democrats don't use this information against McCain IF he is the nominee. Be sure to check out the entire article in The Hill because it goes into quite a bit of detail. And now for the DUmmie reaction...]

If true, this could kill his nomination

[From your lips to Republican ears. For once I hope that a DUmmie is right.]

Flip this around. If you heard that Clinton or Obama had been contemplating leaving the Dems would you vote for them? Hell no you wouldn't. This will get very interesting!

[There would be an UPROAR over something like this from Democrats. Hopefully Republican voters will get a clue as well.]

Oh yeah! Needs to be said, read, and SPREAD! Definitely a keeper!

[Psst! Be sure not to spread it until AFTER McCain is nominated. Why do you think so little publicity has been given to this until now?]

Yeah this should definitely be news...and could be damaging in the primaries

[It COULD be but only if enough Republicans find out about it by next Tuesday.]

But it really is a double-edged sword and ironically may help him in the general election - after all it goes with the whole maverick myth persona propagated by the media over the years.

[I don't think being exposed as a back-stabber is exactly helpful to a campaign.]

Push this story everywhere you can. The GOP doesn't like McCain, and he is working hard to win them over. This is a great opportunity to throw a monkey wrench into that effort.

[Are you sure you're not a LOUSY FREEPER TROLL?]

What are the consequences of pressing this story now?

[Keeping McCain from being nominated. I like those consequences.]

Remember in 2004, when he was talked about to be Kerry's VP.

[Kerry wouldn't have approached McCain if he didn't think Big Mac was willing to split the GOP.]

I just realized this article is from last March... clearly it didn't come out in the MSM.

[Don't worry. It will come out in a HUGE way in the MSM...after a McCain nomination.]


Anonymous Skully said...

"Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP"

If we'd only been so lucky.

6:06 PM  
Anonymous shambhala said...

He has. He just hasnt formally told anyone.

11:13 AM  
Anonymous Britt said...

RINO bastard. Honestly he can go fuck himself. Aghh, and it's impossible to get his supporters to switch. They really don't get it. He'll be a disaster as President. More McCain Feingold Incumbency Protection Act, a new Amnesty Bill, more power to the federal government, and higher taxes too. Anyone who votes against tax cuts can GTFO of the party. Honestly, there are some issues we let you slide on, like abortion or gay marriage, but Maverick McAmnesty can go and be the conservative Dem he is.

4:17 PM  
Anonymous Hud said...

Never have I seen such unwarranted anger and senseless claims coming from people that I consider political allies. I mean, for God's sakes, "Maverick McAmnesty?" And Ann Coulter claiming that should would campaign for Hillary over McCain? This is insanity. Does anyone here realize that the American Conservative Union gave McCain a lifetime rating of 82.3% as a senator? For comparison, Fred Thompson's rating is 86%. Yet I see my fellow Conservatives claiming that he'll be a disastrous president and that he's no better than Hillary. All because of what? Amnesty bills and campaign finance reform? You are all aware that Ronaldus Magnus signed an amnesty bill back in '86, right?

7:32 PM  
Anonymous Hud said...

...there are some issues we let you slide on, like abortion or gay marriage...

Excuse me? John McCain has one of the strongest pro-life records in the Senate and he supported the 2006 Arizona initiative to ban gay marriage. If you're going to criticize the man, at least be fair.

7:39 PM  
Anonymous Happy Fun Ball said...

Yes, Reagan signed that amnesty bill, and we all know what a disaster that was. We most certainly don't need another one of those.

8:30 PM  
Anonymous Oh please said...

Excuse me? John McCain has one of the strongest pro-life records in the Senate

Only, not really.

Short memory there. Have you heard of McCain-Feingold, by any chance?

9:35 PM  
Anonymous Hud said...

I'm quite aware of McCain's stance on embryonic stem cell research. But I chose my words poorly. When I said that, I was addressing britt's mention of abortion. And seeing as how NARAL Pro-Choice America gave McCain a 0% rating, I'd say that he does have an anti-abortion record.

Short memory there. Have you heard of McCain-Feingold, by any chance?

I'm also quite aware of McCain-Feingold, and in fact made an indirect reference to it in my first comment. I also think that trying to sink the man because of it is incredibly narrow-minded. Sure, it's fine to criticize him for it. It's fine to criticize him for a lot of things. There's his iffy record on gun control, the ESCR issue, amnesty bill, etc., which are all valid criticisms. But to oppose his candidacy with such fervor to the point of threatening to stay home on election day or even back Hillary over him is not the smartest move. Personally, I'd much rather have 4 years of McCain than 4 years of Hillary. If that makes me a "maverick" or a "RINO," then so be it.

That said, I'm still crossing my fingers for Romney.

11:23 PM  
Anonymous Ray said...

"RINO bastard. Honestly he can go fuck himself."

After reading this, I hope McCain wins the Republican nomination and the general election and becomes President, just to piss off all the "True Conservatives" (as if there is such a thing) who act more and more like the DUmmies we lampoon here.

Contrary to some people's beliefs, we could do a lot worse than McCain as President. I mean, we already had both Bush's and no one could call them "True Conservatives", can they? There's a lot worse choices out there. How about Ron Paul? Or, God forbid, Hillary? If it comes down between McCain and a democrat, I choose McCain.

4:34 AM  
Anonymous Britt said...

I was mentioning abortion in general, for example, oh, I don't know Rudy or someone like that who is pro-choice. Breaking from the party line is not something the GOP punishes as harshly as the Democrats. However, there are certain issues that you are not supposed to mess with. Tax cuts are one of those. If you want to be a Republican, you vote for tax cuts. Simple as that. He can piss off. Of course, I'm one of those morons who John McCain sneers at while he writes McCain-Feingold, McCain-Lieberman,McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Edwards-Kennedy, and of course flirts with being John Kerry's VP. The Gang of 14 is another thing I'm pissed off about. It' allows the Senate to shirk their constitutional duty of a vote on judicial nominees. On a more base political level, it kills any hope of getting Roe v. Wade overturned. Pro-life indeed. Gun Owners of America gives him an F- rating. His immigration record is of course terrible, and I don't believe for a second he's changed it. You know, my dad also told me that someone who is telling the truth doesn't need to assure you he is telling the truth. Put another way, Straight Talk Express on the side of a bus in ten foot letters does not assure me of his honesty.

Yeah, he'd be great on the war. But that's winding down, and I am electing someone who can do the whole thing well. Because we have a lot of issues on the radar screen right now. Immigration, the economy, and of course the huge deficit and entitlement boondoggle hanging over our heads like the sword of Damocles. McCain, by his own admission, his weak on economic issues, which I think are going to be very important in the next four years.

"He [Michael Graham] also mentioned my abridgement of First Amendment rights, i.e. talking about campaign finance reform....I know that money corrupts....I would rather have a clean government than one where quote First Amendment rights are being respected, that has become corrupt. If I had my choice, I'd rather have the clean government."-John McCain

Fuck off John McCain. I'll say it now, before you're President and you finish your assault on the First Amendment. You better not do that, because when you take away the First, you leave me only with Second.

Extremist position? Oh yes, most certainly, but I would like to remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.

The only reason I might vote for him is if Hillary is the nominee. I might vote for Obama before I vote for McCain. At least with him I know what I'll get. With McCain I get more illegal immigrants, less free speech, expansion of government power, and whatever else the Maverick can cook up with Ted Kennedy.

Besides, you really think he can win? The fawning media coverage will go away the instant it comes down to him and a Dem. You'll have weekly temper tantrums all over the news, you'll have his record questioned, all his hypocrisy with big money in campaigns spilled out a couple weeks before the election, coupled with a media blitz on behalf of the Dem, extolling every virtue and hiding every weakness. The Clinton machine will be out in full force for Hillary, or accusations of racism will fly thick and fast from the Obama camp. Change will be the meme, and John McCain is in no way, shape, or form the candidate of change. He is an old man, a Washington insider to the core.

The only reason he is where he is today is because of Democrats and "independents" voting for him. You do know he loses among actual conservatives in every primary? You think the Dems who voted for John in NH are going to vote for him in the general? When they have an actual Dem to vote for?

If McCain is nominated he will get double teamed by his moderate maverick supporters and the media. He might try to crawl to the base of the GOP on his hands and knees to appease them, and that might work. He's gonna need to nearly beg for my forgiveness on guns, immigration, free speech, taxes, and general attitude towards conservatives before I consider giving him my money or my time.

I might vote against the Democrat, but I will not be voting for John McCain. Honestly, we deserve better. After eight years of Bush and his compassionate conservatism, after eight years of bigger government, amnesty acts, the Patriot Act, and of course the total inability of Dubya to stand up and defend conservatism and actually be a leader for the Republican Party I think it is time we went back to our principles, to what is important to us.

I'm going to say this right now: conservative principles are the ones this country was founded on. This is the last bastion of real freedom, in the sense of the Enlightenment. There are no thoughtcrime tribunals for the Mark Steyn's of the world here. We have no CCTV cameras on every corner. We have the right to bear arms, the right to our property, the right to keep the money we earn.

Let's be real here: this country survived Jimmy Carter, it survived Bill Clinton. It will survive Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. I worry more then anything about the the conservative movment becoming merely a lite version of the Left. Diet Democrat is not the soda I want to drink. I want Conservatism Classic, The Real Thing. John McCain is not the real thing.

"conservative," but not "a conservative."

That's what Buckley said about McCain. He's absolutely right. McCain agrees with some conservative positions, but he has no philosophy, he does not have the roots of conservative thought, the core principles. I'm talking about things like federalism, limited government, and most importantly, respect for the Constitution. He just doesn't have these things. He has this Clintonian attitude of thinking that he is above the law because he is the Maverick, the media darling.

So yeah, that was a little long and rambling, but I really don't feel like editing it. Tonight will be a preview of the election for me. As a lifelong Redskins fan, I really should not pull for the Giants, but I absolutely despise the New England Patriots with every fiber of my being. Cheating, lousy no good SOBs.

5:44 PM  
Anonymous Basilisk said...

Let's be real here: this country survived Jimmy Carter, it survived Bill Clinton. It will survive Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. I worry more then anything about the the conservative movment becoming merely a lite version of the Left. Diet Democrat is not the soda I want to drink. I want Conservatism Classic, The Real Thing. John McCain is not the real thing.

Here, have a slice of WORD pie.

That summed up my position in a nutshell.

4:45 PM  

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