"Shut down Glenn Beck's program"
Shut down Glenn Beck. No other right-wing or left-wing talk show host approaches Beck in terms of his verbal violence and thinly veiled calls for armed revolt. Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity propagate ideas that harm working people and damage the long-term viability of the US, but they're standard right-wing political media personalities. Glenn Beck is something else. Glenn Beck speaks in a deranged tone, verbally assaulting his guests with vitriol that would make Roland Freisler proud (see his interviews with Keith Ellison and Richard Blumenthal), and openly advocates sedition against the United States.
["Openly advocates sedition against the United States?" Something openly advocated in almost every other DUmmie thread during all the years of the EVIL Bush Regime.]
I might be tempted to consider Glenn Beck as just some entertaining shock jock with a political bent if it weren't that there are people out there who have lost their jobs, who collect rifles, and who are seething with aggression. In the early 1990s, the Rwandan genocide was encouraged, with great success, by Hutu radio hosts who advocated wiping out the Tutsi "cockroaches." Don't let it happen here.
[Were those Hutu radio hosts playing the song, "Tut-tut Tutsi, Goodbye?" Sorry but the idea of a tearful touchy feely Glenn Beck being the instigator of a genocide is making me laugh so much that I might cry almost as much as Glenn Beck talking on and on and on about being a good father. And now to the other DUmmies...]
If you don't believe in free speech for those whom you despise you don't believe in free speech.
[Hmmm... You post that and you have only 604 total posts. I can only reach one conclusion: LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
Free speech does not cover incitement to violence. You may argue that Beck disclaims, saying basically that he supports a revolt through the ballot box. I think that that's too easy. His tone and choice of words suggest otherwise. The man is a serpent and a threat to the democratic idea that those we elect are our leaders for the entire duration of their term unless they resign or are removed by Congress.
[That's more like it. Definitely an AUTHENTIC close-minded DUmmie.]
And I really don't like the guy as an entertainer or a commentator.
[Beck definitely needs some tear duct surgery to prevent flooding.]
hate speech is not free speech. it is illegal to incite violence.
[Just define whatever conservatives say as "hate speech" so DUmmies can take a DUmp on the first amendment.]
I share your revulsion for Beck, but the law deliberately makes it very difficult to abridge someone's freedom of speech. Proving incitement is extremely difficult. Consider, if you will, that many comments about Bush and Cheney here on DU in recent years could also be construed as some sort of incitation, depending on what standard you apply.
[Careful. You're edging your way towards a Tombstoning.]
never once did I read anyone suggesting that we take guns and kill them. Glenn who acknowleges he is not a journalist, uses our public airways to make not so veiled threats.
[Oh please! Just check the DUmmie FUnnies archives for plenty of DUmmie threads about liquidating conservatives.]
Look, I'm not asking you to like the guy or his bullshit speeches. I'm saying that the way we feel about him doesn't necessarily pass the legal threshold required for his statements to be criminal.
[What address should we deliver your Tombstone pizza to?]
Beck is screaming "fire" in a crowded theater. He has NO protection of free speech rights to do such a thing. The other day, I heard him suggest that US forces execute prisoners in the field, rather than having to release Guantanamo detainees that need to be released because of lack of evidence to prosecute them. Such an action would be a blatant violation of the rules of war and the rule of law. Beck advocated murder, plain and simple. The man is deranged.
[Being deranged is a prerequisite to becoming a DUmmie.]
Beck promotes sedition. That's not free speech, that's the violent overthrowing of our government. It's illegal.
[If its illegal then we need to jail all real DUmmies. Just check the DUmmie thread archives of the Bush years.]
A democracy has nothing to fear of demagogues. As long as it stands on a trong consensus that is. But we shouldn't start shutting people up. Only if they cross that criminal line - which they are close to, I agree.
[Posted the "DUmmie" with 63 posts. TOMBSTONE!!!]
What democracy? In the U.S.? you are kidding right? Plutocracy maybe. Corporate fascist state definitely but democracy...nope.
[Now that's what an AUTHENTIC DUmmie is supposed to sound like. Unless he is an incredibly clever LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
Could you imagine Bill Moyers behaving like Glenn Beck. Nope, because Bill is sane.
[A sane hatchet man for LBJ.]
He has the right to say it, but not necessarily the right to use public airwaves for it. Even if he did, News Corp. should cancel his show for the sake social responsibility.
["Social responsibility?" Is that the new name for censorship?]
And go buy David Neiwert's new book on hate radio and the fomentation of violent extremism, appropriately titled "The Eliminationists", at your local book store
[The new buzzword of the left for demonizing conservative talk show hosts: "Eliminationists." Mark that down. You will see that word used a lot more frequently in the future.]
Mark Levine is pretty awful too
[Is he also an "Eliminationist?"]
90% of talk radio is nuts like him. There's no balance and it's not the ratings. The propaganda media will replace liberal shows with better ratings for these wingnuts too often.
[Sorry, it is precisely the ratings. Just ask Jim Hightower or Mario Cuomo about ratings.]