"The so-called DU 'Chicken Littles' WERE correct in 2004."
"Investigate All 88!" "Ohio was stolen!" "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!" The Crying DUmmies had all kinds of excuses for John Kerry losing in 2004--Diebold, Swiftboating--lots of explanations EXCEPT that John Kerry was a lousy candidate who lost it all on his own. Fast forward to 2008. Is Barry pulling a Kerry? Is he snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory? A brave few on DU are voicing their concern about Opossum's plummeting poll numbers, but they are branded as either "concern trolls" or "Chicken Littles." And Kerry's defeat is explained away as Rovian trickery--which is just the DUmmies' way of steeling themselves for defeat if the Rethugs should end up stealing this one too.
So now we have the enjoyable spectacle of the Little Suzy Sunshines ("Barack is doing fine") DUmping on the Debbie Downers ("Barack is blowing it"). Witness this THREAD, "The so-called DU 'Chicken Littles' WERE correct in 2004." Let's watch, then, as the pessimistic optimists and the pessimistic pessimists go at it, in Bolshevik Red, while the commentary of your humble guest correspondent, Charles Henrickson--who, as a lifelong Cubs fan, feels some sympathy with the pessimistic pessimists--is in the [brackets]:
The so-called DU "Chicken Littles" WERE correct in 2004. . . .
[The sky DID fall!]
Many of us (myself included) watched in dismay as Kerry's campaign did everything wrong on the way to Election Day; we could feel a Kerry presidency slipping away.
[Now substitute "Barry" for "Kerry."]
But when we discussed all the mistakes, and possible solutions to them, there was an even more vocal contingent of DUers whose apparent mission (with orders from...??) was to respond on these forums like so:
"Kerry knows what he's doing, you don't."
"He's up in most of the polls, quit worrying."
"It's in the bag, I'm telling you. Kerry will win. There's nothing that needs to be done."
"Kerry has very talented people surrounding him; Bush is toast."
"Yawn. And the sky is falling."
[Lather. Rinse. Repeat.]
Voter suppression and Diebold are what did Kerry in.
["WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!" Start rolling out the excuses, DUmmies, you may need them again!]
Obviously, those two things hurt us, but after four years of Bush-the asshole, moran, war criminal, Kerry should have swept up votes like a Dyson. It should have been a freaking landslide in every state.
[Amazing, isn't it? But you guys have the knack of picking even worse candidates than we do!]
The 2004 election was stolen.
["Steal" yourself for another defeat!]
We need the whole Dem party to win this for us, but will they work it?
[Ask the Hillary Harridans, aka, the PUMAs.]
Because fear of terra worked, and that's what he was peddling.
[Maybe some of us Americans appreciate not having terror on our terra.]
Fear and Smear - what a combo!
[Kerry and Barry - what a DUmbo!]
Kerry was the un-Bush. . . .
[Barry is the un-Qualified.]
I think it's safe to say that the only hope for McCain is to scare the piss out of the electorate... make the "darkie" scary.
[OK, get the "Racism!" card out. Check. . . .]
if the majority is so deeply f*cked up that the prospect of an intelligent president who may not be 30+ years in office experienced. . . .
[Opossum doesn't even have 30+ WEEKS of attendance in office!]
just because the electorate feels more comfortable with a man who's so white that looking at him and his wife makes me think of snow-blindness. . . .
[Icicle white persons.]
Well, just imagine if he'd shown some spine and contested the results. . . .
[John Kerry is about the enter the Deconcession Chamber. . . .]
electronic machines are unreliable and too subject to tampering. I think it should be fairly easy to have the nation return to paper ballots - at least punch cards. . . .
[Is that you, Pat Buchanan?]
This VP stuff is making the kitties go wild. . . .
[Silky Phony for VP!]
Should we just give up: Democrats are destined to lose from now on?
[Yes. Just give up.]
Destined to lose until we fundamentally alter the playing field. And the first steps toward that are
1. Stop saying "we have better candidates, therefore we'll win"
2. Stop "playing chess" when the Repukes are playing dodgeball.
[Don't be such a Debbie Downer! Barack is doing just fine!]
[WHEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! I KNEW IT!!!!!!!! PROCEED TO INAUGURA--]
Rove and his RNC and GOP officials . . . were able to steal another election.
So, What Are You Going To Do About It?
[Cry. Whine. Grouse on the internets. The usual.]
voting for Obama is voting for change like we've never seen in our history. . . .
[May we continue to never see it.]
McCain . . . would be Bush on steroids - a permanent security state. The end of US democracy.
[Now McCain is WORSE than Bush?!? How can that be???]
A close friend of mine works with a guy who has been one of Terry McCauliff's (sp?) best friends since college. My friend's coworker is also a loyal Dem and during 2000 he was on the phone with Terry screaming "What the hell, man! Slam them on this "he says he invented the internet" crap! Have Gore talk about the environment, and not just this hand wavy " I will fight for you" nonsense! This campaign is f*cking pathetic"! and Terry would respond "I know, I know, but they won't let us". Who the hell are they??
["They" are Rove, Cheney, and PNAC.]
[See? They even deleted that message!]
Shhhhh. You need to be very quiet about this sh*t in here or you will be labeled as a troll or a PUMA.
[LOUSY CONCERN TROLL!]
Chicken Littles are correct sometimes and we are out again seeing Obama's fall in fortunes. . . .
[Vertigo posthumous: Obama's campaign is dying so fast, it'll make your head spin!]
Some of these voters just plain ol' LIKE a fighter. . . . Maybe it's just a throwback to all the little ninnies on the playground who were first to gather around a dust-up and yell "FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!"
[GET TOUGH, CREAM PUFF!]
We HAVE to fight with EVERYTHING we've got, and yes, go dirty, hit as far below the belt as we can reach, do sh*tty things, say sh*tty things, and go nearly thermo-nuclear.
[Well, Obama is full of sh*t, so that should help.]
Fight? Obama, fight?
[Maybe he needs Jeremiah Wright to fight for him. He's good at that.]
Obama has Axelrod. They're already defeated the most well-funded, well-connected, well-known campaign in years. I think things are different this time.
[Of course, Clinton fatigue and Hillary's high negatives had nothing to do with that, right?]
Then why on earth is his campaign so lackluster? Especially when it was flawless in the primaries?
["Flawless" Obama beat Hillary by one-tenth of one percentage point of total votes cast in the primaries.]
Obama knows what he's doing.
[Baghdad Bob checks in.]
I call it lackluster when you blow a substantial lead and are now constantly on the defensive. What do you call it. . . ?
Most people who complain don't do anything to help. Write some letters, make some calls.
I commend Skinner for taking the necessary steps he was forced to take in order to deal with many of those "chicken littles of 2004".
[LOCK! BAN! DELETE!]
I don't miss any of the grenade throwers from this year's primary, either.
obama's no kerry.
[He may be WORSE. He's John Kerry without the experience.]
he's a much stronger candidate than kerry AND the political/economic backdrop is MUCH better for now for democrats than it was 4 years ago.
[Thank you, Little Suzy Sunshine.]
Kerry's team made a lot of mistakes but Obama's team is not making mistakes.
[Obama's "team": Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, Michael Pfleger, Ludacris, John Edwards, Michelle Obama--no, no mistakes there!]
there are concern trolls here on DU who love to drag crap over from their right-wing masters and slap it up on our boards. Fie on them.
[A feisty fighter needs to fight fire with fie!]
I fully expect Obama to link mccaint with bushco.
[I fully expect us to link Obama with Rezko.]
I was a Chicken Little in 2004. . . . those representing Kerry couldn't come up with anything but the deer-in-the-headlights look.
[And now you've got Obambi.]
You remind me of how bad Democratic surrogates were. And so called liberal pundits. They were less than useless for Kerry.
Where do we apply for that job!
[Is that you, Will "the Shill" Pitt?]
this isn't 2004 and Obama is definitely not Kerry. but cock-a-doodle-doo all you want Chicken Little, what else do you have to do?
I'm not worried.
[What, me worry?]
It will be a sad day if Obama loses. . . .
["IF he LOSES"??! How DARE you even IMAGINE that!!]
I'm not sufficiently doom-struck today, and I'm feeling slightly out of place here. Maybe if I go change into black clothes, put on some Emo and pull the shades it'll get me into the appropriate mood.
What exactly do you accomplish with all your concerns? . . . What is your action plan other than engaging in flame wars on the internet?
[Writing a LTTE. DUAC! DUAC!]
Obama is doing just fine. . . .
[Keep repeating that: Obama is doing just fine, Obama is doing just fine, Obama is doing just fine. . . .]
Kerry had the appeal of cardboard. . . .
[Barry has the appeal of FRESH cardboard. Cardboard we can believe in!]
My gut is better about this time. . . .
[Barry puts the "BO" in "BOWELS"!]
Don't forget election day. Thread after thread, I saw the word "Landslide!" I can't begin to tell you how much it gave me the heebie-jeebies.
[But, but, Kerry was leading in some exit polls, wasn't he?]
Ah yes. And those of us who were not carrying on like Little Suzy Sunshine . . . needed to shut up, sit down, and learn from the superior intellects.
[Don't be a Debbie Downer! Be Little Suzy Sunshine!]
excessive defeatism must not be encouraged.
[Just normal defeatism.]
I remain fairly optimistic about our prospects.
[Famous last words.]
Don't forget: "They don't poll people with cell phones, so they're missing the youth vote!"
[Yeah, you can take that youth vote to the bank!]
It will be great if they turn out, but they might also be too busy putting enormous grommets in their earlobes to make it to the polls.
[That fad is so last month!]
God help he who questions the anointed one du jour.
[The anointed one DU jour.]
now it's a repeat of 2004....a super lackluster campaign and a sure Dem victory being squandered. of course, then as now, the response of any du-er to any criticism of the campaign is either vicious attack, or magical thinking optimism.
I recall Will Pitt posting that the polls clearly said Kerry would win and I agreed with him.
[That was your first mistake. I recall Will Pitt posting that Karl Rove was indicted.]