"The so-called DU 'Chicken Littles' WERE correct in 2004."
"Investigate All 88!" "Ohio was stolen!" "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!" The Crying DUmmies had all kinds of excuses for John Kerry losing in 2004--Diebold, Swiftboating--lots of explanations EXCEPT that John Kerry was a lousy candidate who lost it all on his own. Fast forward to 2008. Is Barry pulling a Kerry? Is he snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory? A brave few on DU are voicing their concern about Opossum's plummeting poll numbers, but they are branded as either "concern trolls" or "Chicken Littles." And Kerry's defeat is explained away as Rovian trickery--which is just the DUmmies' way of steeling themselves for defeat if the Rethugs should end up stealing this one too.
So now we have the enjoyable spectacle of the Little Suzy Sunshines ("Barack is doing fine") DUmping on the Debbie Downers ("Barack is blowing it"). Witness this THREAD, "The so-called DU 'Chicken Littles' WERE correct in 2004." Let's watch, then, as the pessimistic optimists and the pessimistic pessimists go at it, in Bolshevik Red, while the commentary of your humble guest correspondent, Charles Henrickson--who, as a lifelong Cubs fan, feels some sympathy with the pessimistic pessimists--is in the [brackets]:
The so-called DU "Chicken Littles" WERE correct in 2004. . . .
[The sky DID fall!]
Many of us (myself included) watched in dismay as Kerry's campaign did everything wrong on the way to Election Day; we could feel a Kerry presidency slipping away.
[Now substitute "Barry" for "Kerry."]
But when we discussed all the mistakes, and possible solutions to them, there was an even more vocal contingent of DUers whose apparent mission (with orders from...??) was to respond on these forums like so:
"Kerry knows what he's doing, you don't."
"He's up in most of the polls, quit worrying."
"It's in the bag, I'm telling you. Kerry will win. There's nothing that needs to be done."
"Kerry has very talented people surrounding him; Bush is toast."
"Yawn. And the sky is falling."
[Lather. Rinse. Repeat.]
Voter suppression and Diebold are what did Kerry in.
["WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!" Start rolling out the excuses, DUmmies, you may need them again!]
Obviously, those two things hurt us, but after four years of Bush-the asshole, moran, war criminal, Kerry should have swept up votes like a Dyson. It should have been a freaking landslide in every state.
[Amazing, isn't it? But you guys have the knack of picking even worse candidates than we do!]
The 2004 election was stolen.
["Steal" yourself for another defeat!]
We need the whole Dem party to win this for us, but will they work it?
[Ask the Hillary Harridans, aka, the PUMAs.]
Because fear of terra worked, and that's what he was peddling.
[Maybe some of us Americans appreciate not having terror on our terra.]
Fear and Smear - what a combo!
[Kerry and Barry - what a DUmbo!]
Kerry was the un-Bush. . . .
[Barry is the un-Qualified.]
I think it's safe to say that the only hope for McCain is to scare the piss out of the electorate... make the "darkie" scary.
[OK, get the "Racism!" card out. Check. . . .]
if the majority is so deeply f*cked up that the prospect of an intelligent president who may not be 30+ years in office experienced. . . .
[Opossum doesn't even have 30+ WEEKS of attendance in office!]
just because the electorate feels more comfortable with a man who's so white that looking at him and his wife makes me think of snow-blindness. . . .
[Icicle white persons.]
Well, just imagine if he'd shown some spine and contested the results. . . .
[John Kerry is about the enter the Deconcession Chamber. . . .]
electronic machines are unreliable and too subject to tampering. I think it should be fairly easy to have the nation return to paper ballots - at least punch cards. . . .
[Is that you, Pat Buchanan?]
This VP stuff is making the kitties go wild. . . .
[Silky Phony for VP!]
Should we just give up: Democrats are destined to lose from now on?
[Yes. Just give up.]
Destined to lose until we fundamentally alter the playing field. And the first steps toward that are
1. Stop saying "we have better candidates, therefore we'll win"
2. Stop "playing chess" when the Repukes are playing dodgeball.
[Don't be such a Debbie Downer! Barack is doing just fine!]
Kerry won.
[WHEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! I KNEW IT!!!!!!!! PROCEED TO INAUGURA--]
Rove and his RNC and GOP officials . . . were able to steal another election.
[Oops!]
So, What Are You Going To Do About It?
[Cry. Whine. Grouse on the internets. The usual.]
voting for Obama is voting for change like we've never seen in our history. . . .
[May we continue to never see it.]
McCain . . . would be Bush on steroids - a permanent security state. The end of US democracy.
[Now McCain is WORSE than Bush?!? How can that be???]
A close friend of mine works with a guy who has been one of Terry McCauliff's (sp?) best friends since college. My friend's coworker is also a loyal Dem and during 2000 he was on the phone with Terry screaming "What the hell, man! Slam them on this "he says he invented the internet" crap! Have Gore talk about the environment, and not just this hand wavy " I will fight for you" nonsense! This campaign is f*cking pathetic"! and Terry would respond "I know, I know, but they won't let us". Who the hell are they??
["They" are Rove, Cheney, and PNAC.]
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[See? They even deleted that message!]
Shhhhh. You need to be very quiet about this sh*t in here or you will be labeled as a troll or a PUMA.
[LOUSY CONCERN TROLL!]
Chicken Littles are correct sometimes and we are out again seeing Obama's fall in fortunes. . . .
[Vertigo posthumous: Obama's campaign is dying so fast, it'll make your head spin!]
Some of these voters just plain ol' LIKE a fighter. . . . Maybe it's just a throwback to all the little ninnies on the playground who were first to gather around a dust-up and yell "FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!"
[GET TOUGH, CREAM PUFF!]
We HAVE to fight with EVERYTHING we've got, and yes, go dirty, hit as far below the belt as we can reach, do sh*tty things, say sh*tty things, and go nearly thermo-nuclear.
[Well, Obama is full of sh*t, so that should help.]
Fight? Obama, fight?
[Maybe he needs Jeremiah Wright to fight for him. He's good at that.]
Obama has Axelrod. They're already defeated the most well-funded, well-connected, well-known campaign in years. I think things are different this time.
[Of course, Clinton fatigue and Hillary's high negatives had nothing to do with that, right?]
Then why on earth is his campaign so lackluster? Especially when it was flawless in the primaries?
["Flawless" Obama beat Hillary by one-tenth of one percentage point of total votes cast in the primaries.]
Obama knows what he's doing.
[Baghdad Bob checks in.]
I call it lackluster when you blow a substantial lead and are now constantly on the defensive. What do you call it. . . ?
[FUn!]
Most people who complain don't do anything to help. Write some letters, make some calls.
[DUAC! DUAC!]
I commend Skinner for taking the necessary steps he was forced to take in order to deal with many of those "chicken littles of 2004".
[LOCK! BAN! DELETE!]
I don't miss any of the grenade throwers from this year's primary, either.
[Tombstoned PUMAs.]
obama's no kerry.
[He may be WORSE. He's John Kerry without the experience.]
he's a much stronger candidate than kerry AND the political/economic backdrop is MUCH better for now for democrats than it was 4 years ago.
[Thank you, Little Suzy Sunshine.]
Kerry's team made a lot of mistakes but Obama's team is not making mistakes.
[Obama's "team": Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, Michael Pfleger, Ludacris, John Edwards, Michelle Obama--no, no mistakes there!]
there are concern trolls here on DU who love to drag crap over from their right-wing masters and slap it up on our boards. Fie on them.
[A feisty fighter needs to fight fire with fie!]
I fully expect Obama to link mccaint with bushco.
[I fully expect us to link Obama with Rezko.]
I was a Chicken Little in 2004. . . . those representing Kerry couldn't come up with anything but the deer-in-the-headlights look.
[And now you've got Obambi.]
You remind me of how bad Democratic surrogates were. And so called liberal pundits. They were less than useless for Kerry.
[Useless pundidiots.]
Where do we apply for that job!
[Is that you, Will "the Shill" Pitt?]
this isn't 2004 and Obama is definitely not Kerry. but cock-a-doodle-doo all you want Chicken Little, what else do you have to do?
[Cock-a-DUdle-DU!!]
I'm not worried.
[What, me worry?]
It will be a sad day if Obama loses. . . .
["IF he LOSES"??! How DARE you even IMAGINE that!!]
I'm not sufficiently doom-struck today, and I'm feeling slightly out of place here. Maybe if I go change into black clothes, put on some Emo and pull the shades it'll get me into the appropriate mood.
[DUmmie Doomies.]
What exactly do you accomplish with all your concerns? . . . What is your action plan other than engaging in flame wars on the internet?
[Writing a LTTE. DUAC! DUAC!]
Obama is doing just fine. . . .
[Keep repeating that: Obama is doing just fine, Obama is doing just fine, Obama is doing just fine. . . .]
Word.
[Worried.]
Kerry had the appeal of cardboard. . . .
[Barry has the appeal of FRESH cardboard. Cardboard we can believe in!]
My gut is better about this time. . . .
[Barry puts the "BO" in "BOWELS"!]
Don't forget election day. Thread after thread, I saw the word "Landslide!" I can't begin to tell you how much it gave me the heebie-jeebies.
[But, but, Kerry was leading in some exit polls, wasn't he?]
Ah yes. And those of us who were not carrying on like Little Suzy Sunshine . . . needed to shut up, sit down, and learn from the superior intellects.
[Don't be a Debbie Downer! Be Little Suzy Sunshine!]
excessive defeatism must not be encouraged.
[Just normal defeatism.]
I remain fairly optimistic about our prospects.
[Famous last words.]
Don't forget: "They don't poll people with cell phones, so they're missing the youth vote!"
[Yeah, you can take that youth vote to the bank!]
It will be great if they turn out, but they might also be too busy putting enormous grommets in their earlobes to make it to the polls.
[That fad is so last month!]
God help he who questions the anointed one du jour.
[The anointed one DU jour.]
now it's a repeat of 2004....a super lackluster campaign and a sure Dem victory being squandered. of course, then as now, the response of any du-er to any criticism of the campaign is either vicious attack, or magical thinking optimism.
[Zero pessimus.]
I recall Will Pitt posting that the polls clearly said Kerry would win and I agreed with him.
[That was your first mistake. I recall Will Pitt posting that Karl Rove was indicted.]
posted by PJ-Comix at 9:36 AM
32 Comments:
Well!
At least they are sounding like they are in familiar territory... This terrain is so like the Kerry debacle, it's uncanny!
For all his money-grubbing, Obama is just not hanging on very well. His message has yet to materialize, "hope and change", is widely seen as a meaningless platitude, and, the more we see of ol' Jugears, the more we dislike, distrust and dismiss him.
It's probably a good thing that the DUmmies are getting their angst cranked up early. No one is going to buy that "stolen election" stuff, and without a victory, I think we may be seeing a sick part of American politics drop into a valley of death for a couple of decades.
At least until they can pick better candidates, anyway.
I'm afraid I'm not cool enough to know what a "concern troll" is. Is it someone who posts "what ifs" to raise the worry level in a comments section?
Wow, the level of mental illness over there is just incredible.
It's like they're all suffering from a sort of PTSS...based on imagined trauma.
"... It's like they're all suffering from a sort of PTSS... "
... which will soon turn into PEST! LOL!
"Obviously, those two things hurt us, but after four years of Bush-the asshole, moran"
You see this all the time. One of these losers calling Bush a "moron" and spelling it wrong.
I love the smell of leftist desperation in the morning! Smells like...leftist desperation!
Kayinsane:
Don’t let the polls in America fool you by them saying those over 65 are more apt to vote for McCain because of their age and his. This is not true and I know why….because I live in reality! :lol:
The right wing polls at Rasmussen and ABC are just a reflection of what the republicans want to hear…not
what REAL AMERICANS are thinking.
THE MILITARY IS BACKING BARACK OBAMA 6 to 1 RIGHT NOW! What does that tell ya? Oh that’s right! The polls are wrong again! Spit. Don’t listen to the right wing polls!
For John McCain and the right wing of this country to steal the November 2008 election USING DIEBOLD, they have to start today in making it appear as if the race is close between Barack and McCain. A close race is easier to steal, is it not? Yep. If real polls were being conducted and the numbers were in favor of Barack Obama 60-40% or 70-30% right now, it would look a little funny if Johnny pulled an “upset” in the middle of the night while American were sleeping!
everyone is pissed off. Trust me.. these polls are way off. I think Obama will probably win by 10-12 points after the debates show McCain as the senile old Bushite that he is.
Uncle Fester Lurks Says:
August 21, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Wow…is anyone else buying this bullshit! The state department said the missile system that is being sold to Poland is for their protection against possible Iranian and North Korean missile strikes… Huh…WTF???Nothing like the Bush regime starting up the cold war again. Evil f**king bastards. Lets just turn the whole world against us.
to steal the election they would have to keep the poll numbers close…that is just common sense. It’s also obvious that the corporate controlled MSM want McCain to win or they would actually be covering his negatives as much as they cover Obama’s so with that said, sure they are in on it and manipulating poll numbers to keep things close for the elections to be stolen.
all wars are started by republicans and it doesn’t matter if there’s a Democratic president either. Republicans are either out front or behind the scenes scheming something evil. Never fails. Starting up the Cold War is porno to the reich wingers!
You are so right about the “white hairs” of this country! They’ve lived through WWII and they remember Adolph Hitler and the mess and anguish he wrought on the Jews and the people in his country & around him. We’ve had the same kind of ideology running our nation the past 8 years (just worse) and the elderly know this!
Oh the schadenfreude!
all wars are started by republcans and it doesn't matter if there's a Democratic president either...They've lived through WWII and they remember Adolph Hitler...We've had the same kind of ideology running our nation the past 8 years (just worse) and the elderly know this!
"Uncle Fester" is a dolt who knows nothing of 20th century history or politics. You can't argue with stupidity like his. The only response is mocking laughter or a polo mallet upside his head.
Really, kayinmaine's blog has to be conservative satire. The Democrats I know aren't this dumb and obnoxious.
Well, excepting t-man.
How many times can I keep saying "wow"? Forget it. I'll just wait for the Denver convention. It's gonna be unbelievable.
"Cardboard we can believe in!" :)
You can't argue with stupidity like his. The only response is mocking laughter or a polo mallet upside his head.
ROFL! I picture a flattened mallet ala the 3 Stooges when Curly would get slammed with a sledge hammer completely flattening the solid dense steel.
The blush is coming off the rose.
Someone said it's like infatuation...the beginning is intoxicating, but it doesn't always last.
There is a point when infatuation must give way to deeper understanding and mature love or simply fade away.
I think Obie's fresh and, dare I say, black face combined to make him the irresistible new thing to all those love-hungry Moonbats.
But all he is doing now is repeating the same old pickup lines...there doesn't seem to be any "there" there. And his New-Kid-In-Town attraction is starting to wear a little thin.
He's too shallow/hollow to be so over-exposed. I don't think his starry-eyed handlers understand their commodity.
It's getting close to hang-over time, and the headache is just starting to kick in.
It'll be interesting to see how the disillusioned media treat him once they've had their way with him and he ceases to be thrilling and "new".
"So now we have the enjoyable spectacle of the Little Suzy Sunshines ("Barack is doing fine") DUmping on the Debbie Downers ("Barack is blowing it")." PJ
So...what other viewpoints are there? Yes. Of course. Apathetic Andy ("Who gives a fuck").
The blush is coming off the rose...Someone said it's like infatuation...the beginning is intoxicating, but it doesn't always last...There is a point when infatuation must give way to deeper understanding and mature love or simply fade away...I think Obie's fresh and, dare I say, black face combined to make him the irresistible new thing to all those love-hungry Moonbats...But all he is doing now is repeating the same old pickup lines..." gunslinger
What the hell is going on here?
First manbearpig appeals to my inner homo and now you? Have I blindly stumbled into a...you know...thing? (story of my life)
This gives your 'gunslinger' handle a whole new meaning, for Christ's sake. I can never think of you in the same way again, gunslinger. And in a strange and wonderful way, you've wounded me and thrilled me in the same breath. God bless you.
TMan this place just wouldnt be the same without you.
Screw you and lefties in general anyway.
Hugs and deep deep kisses. *tingle*
Anon 1:50 said...
the more we see of ol' Jugears, the more we dislike, distrust and dismiss him.
Aha! Proof positive that all cons are racist and the entire election is about race!
"Hugs and deep deep kisses. *tingle*" sham
No dry humping.
Does KayInMaine have Tourette's? What is up with all the spitting? She should start handing out towels with her free showers.
Come to think of it, that's not a bad idea. I always feel in need of a scalding shower after reading her ignorant rants.
As for the DUmmies spelling moron as "moran", it's a deliberate mistake. They are referencing a picture put out a few years ago of supposed Conservatives holding signs...mostly misspelled. It's, like, you know, ironic. Or something like that.
"Because fear of terra worked, and that's what he was peddling."
Fear of terra? Terraphobia? Who's afraid of the Big Bad Earth?
"No dry humping."
Trog, keep your mother out of this!
"Kerry was the un-Bush. . . ."
Interesting, I always regarded Kerry as Bush Lite.
"voting for Obama is voting for change like we've never seen in our history. . . ."
I think England would disagree.
"Aha! Proof positive that all cons are racist and the entire election is about race!" -truthy progressive
Hey everybody, truthy progressive is a mind reader. Watch what you think or he'll arrest you for doubleplusungood thoughts.
We must all thank our brother truthy progressive from the Ministry of "Proof Positive" for his unyielding diligence to save us from our racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic selves.
I think it's safe to say that the only hope for McCain is to scare the piss out of the electorate... make the "darkie" scary
Yes. Because it is common knowledge that all us "darkies" vote Democrat. Asshole.
"Yes. Because it is common knowledge that all us "darkies" vote Democrat. Asshole." sham
You're a black conservative? Jesus Mary and Joseph. And you're hangin with PJ? For the love of all that's Holy, please don't tell me you're a homo. Because I find myself strangely...nevermind.
Anyway. Who thinks you "darkies" (your word) vote Democrat? Not me. I don't give a crap who you vote for. You're darkassedness doesn't mean shit to me. What matters more is if you belong to the University of the Eternally Stupid. Then I care.
Tman, are you saying that you and Shambhala would be classmates (at the University of Eternally Stupid)? I hear that you're class president.
"Who thinks you "darkies" (your word) vote Democrat?"
That would be the entire democratic party, including Obama. You don't get out much, do you?
Trog youre one strange - and amusing - mother fucker.
I'm a "brownie" more than a "darkie" actually.
Thank you, sham.
And, though intriguing, your color doesn't really matter as much to me as it matters to "you don't get out much" ray who clearly sees Obama's nomination as a matter of race. It matters to him. Not me and I hope, not you.
And you are clearly a dumbass at times. Now go to bed.
"I know the thought of marrying some dude really gets you off, but I'm a woman. And I wouldn't have a shit-eater like you either way." manbearpig
This is from a few threads down. But, Jesus. Did any of you think manbearpig was a friggin WOMAN? And she keeps referring to me as a "shit-eater" which upsets me because I have never knowingly eaten shit ever...unless, God help me, manbearpig knows something I don't.
"Tman, are you saying that you and Shambhala would be classmates (at the University of Eternally Stupid)? I hear that you're class president." susie
Hear that, sham? Welcome to the University of the Eternally Stupid.
Quit twisting my words, tman. You said Shambhala belonged there. I just commented that I heard you attended and were the class president.
"... And she keeps referring to me as a "shit-eater" which upsets me because I have never knowingly eaten shit ever...unless, ..." - t-man
... unless you've ever eaten a box of cereal, sausages, many other factory-prepared foods (especially chicken). Rat, chicken and bug shit in all those... impossible to get it all out.
"Rat, chicken and bug shit in all those... impossible to get it all out." mr galt
He (or she...I can't tell anymore) is right. But it's not impossible. It's easy. Bacteria is easy.
But God forbid we attempt to regulate safety standards for meat you moronic jerkassed graduates of the University of the Eternally Stupid. In fact, let's just stop regulating everything. Anyone want to talk about the deregulation of the food industry? I'm ready.
You're like a broken record, tman. You run anything into the ground. University of the Eternally Stupid? You've used that cliche, ad anauseum. Can't you come up with something else to entertain us with, cause you're getting Eternally Boring.
ad nauseum, sorry
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