KOmmies Promoting John Edwards For Veep
why the Edwards 'scandal' has resurfaced
[Hilarious conspiracy theories follow...]
No need for qualifiers here folks, I have been a pit bull for Edwards from the start of my blogging on KOS. But after reading this tripe on Huffpo, and hearing all the rumors of VP choices who are, at best,conservative democrats, and at worst a registered Republican, I no longer can stay silent. I owe my activism in almost every way to John Edwards - from my support of him in 1998, to my move to Colorado in 2000 to fight Tancredo (when Gore could have picked Edwards, but instead, went with Lieberman - what might have been?) to my work on Kerry-Edwards and this past year.
[Is that you, Rielle Hunter?]
Now, I have been working dutifully for someone whom I truly believe in, Barack Obama, since Edwards dropped out and am working daily 6 and 7 days a week for him. But I must defend someone who inspired me first, Senator John Edwards. Now ask yourself, Why do they attack a non-candidate? read on to find out the reason...
[Because we're jealous of his fluffy hair? Actually not. This KOmmie just posts some "facts" about how John Edwards is their best choice for veep.]
Indeed, with Obama pulling in 95% of the Black vote in the south, and Edwards adding the white working class Reagan democrats, we could bring back into the fold the south, whom Lyndon Johnson knew the Democrats would lose for a generation with the voting rights act. Well that generation has come today.
Obama-Edwards 2008
[Obama-Edwards 2008. Now there's a winning ticket! The rest of the KOmmies weigh in on John Edwards...]
For what it's worth, the MSM hasn't really picked the Edwards "scandal" up, so I'm not sure it will grow legs, even if he does become Obama's running mate.
[We're depending on the MSM to continue burying their heads in the sand like liberal ostriches.]
I wrote much the same thing the other day, the repubs fear Edwards and wish to take him off the ticket.
[No. No. I say put Edwards on the ticket. He's an even better choice for veep than Tom Eagleton.]
I'm glad someone finally has his back
[He sure had Rielle Hunter's back...and front.]
Is the general thinking "he wasn't even there -- the Enquirer is making stuff up" or "he was there, but there's a totally innocent explanation" that isn't worth giving b/c it dignifies the story.
[There is a totally innocent explanation of why Edwards was at a certain room in the Beverly Hilton hotel all night until the early AM and then had a Yakety Sax Benny Hill chase in the basement involving reporters which ended up as a tug of war on a bathroom door.]
I have a hard time believing he wasn't there at all. If he was somewhere else, they'd have leaked that by now, right?
[John Edwards was on a poverty tour of the Beverly Hilton in the early AM.]
To date, the NE has not produced any proof whatsoever that this occured. There is no way that a group of reporters did not manage to capture even a single photo but the NE has not published any photos or video.
[I am predicting a HUGE sale of National Enquirers chock full of photos in the very near future. I might even break tradition by buying a copy rather than just read it in the supermarket checkout line.]
Now, if he is asked to be vetted, that is another issue. But right now, he is a civilian who happened to visit some folk at a Beverly Hills Hotel.
[Folks like Rielle Hunter and Love Child.]
He was in Los Angeles that day. Edwards might have legitimate reasons for being at the hotel, or even visiting the chick in question...or perhaps she's a "nut or slut" or both who was obsessed with him...or her "friend" who drove her down from Santa Barbara and allegedly drove Edwards to meet her set the thing up to make a quick buck...or maybe, it's all a bunch of lies. It is a bit hypocritical to ignore this story when many here went batshit over the McCain/Iseman hoo-ha story a few months back.
[Yeah, prominent pols make a habit of visiting obsessed chicks. Come to think of it, why isn't Petra Verkaik similarly obsessed with ME?]
Which is something that has to be vetted by the Obama campaign. They have to find out, in ABSOLUTE PRIVILEGE, whether this is true or not. If it's true, it's a problem that would be distracting and would rule him out. But if it is not true, then I like this selection.
[Yeah I would love to hear the questions in that vetting process: So John, did you actually shtoop that flaky blonde? Oh, and how is your Love Child doing?]
the problem is the hiding in the bathroom. nobody cares about Edwards personal relationships, but when you are perceived to be hiding for no apparent reason, it does not smell right.
[Maybe he just didn't want photos taken of his hemorrhoids?]
The last thing we need now is people crying about his "privacy". Not only did the guy choose to have a public persona, he promoted himself as a devoted husband with his marriage to Elizabeth being a big part of his appeal. The truth about his sincerity and devotion to her is very relevant.
[Please. Pretty please pick John Edwards for veep!]
What concerns me even more is whether it's true that he presented himself as a viable choice for the Democratic Party's nomination, knowing that he could lose the whole thing with one false move. I'm not saying the story is true. But I'm saying that the question that bothers me is not just whether he treated Elizabeth honorably (heck, they might have some kind of agreement, who knows?) but whether he treated us voters honorably. I hope the answer is yes, and that it will be cleared up soon.
[I still say John Edwards is a viable choice for veep. Pick him!!!]
With McCain, the MSM was all over that story until he held a press conference and addressed it. The MSM is pretty much ignoring this. Heard any of the primetime cable shows cover it?
[Nope. It's called Hypocrisy in Motion.]
Edwards would not be so dumb to have an affair, and even if he did, is it not mightily conspicuous to have this 'break' when Obama is having his best press cycle and people are looking for a weakness?
[It's a conspiracy, I tell ya!]
Edwards as no chance in hell of been. Picked as VP. The whole baby daddy thing whether true or not as ruined his chances for good. Edwards is done in politics.
[I'm already picturing Ms Hunter getting half of the Edwards NC palace for child support.]
We owe it to Elizabeth to stand strong for him.
[Elizabeth has his back...while holding a frying pan.]
At this point, I don't see how the "ignore it and wait for it to go away" strategy can work for Edwards. I think he has to address it directly. But I'm no expert. I'm wondering what other people here think.
[Let me consult our DUFU fans.]
He just should have walked out of the hotel like nothing is up, it was him hiding in the bathroom that put this story back out there.
[He was having a Yakety Sax Benny Hill moment.]
If they have photos, I imagine they're holding them until the next print issue of the NE comes out. The editor hinted that they had more material.
[BINGO!]
Edwards is my top choice for VP
[Mine too!]
With Obama's surge to the center, he really needs Edwards to bring Progressives home. He needs him to secure the working-class Populist vote, which Obama hasn't exactly set on fire. Our best ticket would have been Edwards/Obama, and the powers that be successfully derailed that. Now they are trying to keep the strongest ticket we still have left from coming about. Judging by everything I have seen, they will succeed at that too, leaving folks like me little to be inspired about once again.
[Don't be shy. Just go ahead and blame it on Karl Rove.]
45 Comments:
Oh yeah, the working class populists who just weren't quite turned on by Obama are just DYING to see John Edwards come in with him. Sure they are. Blue collar voters just ADORE millionaire personal injury lawyers with palatial estates that screw around on their cancer-patient wives, after all what says 'Selfless' and 'Loyal' like that, eh?
"Our best ticket would have been a Edwards/Obama, and the powers that be derailed that."
Conspiracy theories flow through Kos and the DU like a great river of molasses; entangling everyone, dragging everyone down. It's Rove, Rove and Cheney too, I tells ya!!
Just when I thought these folks couldn't POSSIBLY sink into the pit of lunacy any further.....
And I thought BDS, ALL the various Karl Rove conspiracies and 9/11 truthing was as low as they could go in self delusion..
Nope.
I BELIEEEEEEEEEEEVE!
Love Child we can believe in!
I love the yakety sax benny hill chase line. A great description that makes a very funny mental picture to go with the enquirer story.
Indeed, with Obama pulling in 95% of the Black vote in the south, and Edwards adding the white working class Reagan democrats, we could bring back into the fold the south, whom Lyndon Johnson knew the Democrats would lose for a generation with the voting rights act.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Yes, because as everyone knows, white working class southerners support socialist millionaire lawyers. That is common knowledge, duh!
Earth to Kos...
"Of course, the MSM still remains completely mum on the alleged John Edwards scandal." PJ
Do you mean the scandal bravely reported by the National Enquirer? Wasn't that the same issue that had the "NASA Moon Walker Alien Cover Up" story? I think it was.
"Yes, because as everyone knows, white working class southerners support socialist millionaire lawyers. That is common knowledge, duh!" anon the terrible
Let's see. Does McCain belong to the millionaire's club? Did the V.A. just pay for J Sidney's skin biopsy? Yes and yes. Socialist millionaire indeed. So scary. But then you, anon the terrible, shout it from the mountain top, you dumbass, and draw the attention of "white working class Southerners" who hate millionaire socialists! WTF? Who's side are you on, Mister?
Tman, I think McCain deserves to have his biopsy paid for by the VA. I think he paid for that right many times over. Why do you begrudge a veteran his rights?
The Obamassiah should pick Edwards as his running mate. After all, one empty suit having an partner who is equally an empty suit is only logical (which is saying something where Socialist Democrats are concerned).
Susie...that is typical of anti-American guttersnipes like Troglaman to make statements like that.
As a retired USAF veteran, I can assure everyone here that if Troglaman and the rest of his guttersnipe clones win the upcoming election and have control of both the Congress and the Presidency, everyone in America will soon find out how the VA Health Care System works because that's what you'll have with the one payer system the Socialist Democrats will impose on us. You will have long waits for service just like the Canadians are dealing with because the costs will skyrocket, forcing rationing for care. Add to that the fact the the shortage of doctors in this country will increase under a federal bureaucracy running the health care system, and you have a disaster worse than anything since the Great Depression.
Hay, DUmmies, if Edwards is a logical choice for VP because of his ability of "adding the white working class Reagan democrats" as some DUmmies claim, then why do they need him to "bring Progressives home" because of Obama's "surge to the center?"
These DUmmies can't even make up their minds about Edwards' political stance (is he a centrist who attracts "Reagan democrats" or a "progressive" who attracts the extreme left? Inquiring minds want to know), how are they every going to agree with Obama's choice for VP?
"Wasn't that the same issue that had the "NASA Moon Walker Alien Cover Up" story? I think it was."
Is this story being ignored by CBS who ran the "fake but accurate" Bush TANG Memo story? I think it is!
Is this story also being ignored by NBC who ran the rigged "exploding gas tank" story? I think it is!
Is this story also being ignored by ABC who ran Hillary's false "snipers in Bosnia" story? I think it is!
Now that Obama is pushing for a 'Surge' into Afghanistan (and possibly action in Pakistan), can I presume that Troglaman and his ilk will volunteer for military service, or is he/she a chickenhawk?
"Tman, I think McCain deserves to have his biopsy paid for by the VA. I think he paid for that right many times over. Why do you begrudge a veteran his rights?" susieQ
I don't. I'm not the one bitching about socialized medicine (like the V.A.). You are, dumbass. I think he deserves it despite the fact he's a millionaire. The fact that he takes advantage of it makes him, by definition, a socialist millionaire. That's all. I admit it's a rather lengthy, roundabout way of telling 'anon the terrible' to STFU but I'm trying to be nice.
"Now that Obama is pushing for a 'Surge' into Afghanistan (and possibly action in Pakistan), can I presume that Troglaman and his ilk will volunteer for military service, or is he/she a chickenhawk?" dave
Aren't you a clever boy. But you're a little late to the party on this one, dave. Old meme. If you jackasses would've enlisted all your kids, parents, cousins, in-laws, etc., we wouldn't be in this shit. Who's war is this? Hint...yours. The fact that someone else has to shovel out your outhouse doesn't mean it isn't your exquisitely, dumbass shit.
"...Troglaman and the rest of his guttersnipe clones..." jerome
jerome said "guttersnipe" again. This has to stop.
My, my, tman, you sure do have your panties in a wad. Why don't you say what you really mean?
I wouldn't call it "socialist millionaire". I would call it being a veteran and getting his due. My goodness, he sure did pay the price.
Hey Susie, guess I'm a Socialist Millionaire too...only thing is my bank doesn't operate on Troglaman's thinking patterns, so I guess I won't be writing any huge checks.
By the way, Troglaman - if you don't like seeing the word "guttersnipe" then stop being a guttersnipe.
"I'm not the one bitching about socialized medicine (like the V.A.)"
T-man, did you leave your intelligence with your Internet service provider after logging in?
The VA is hardly "socialized medicine" as you believe simply because VA medical care is RESTRICTED to only those who have served. That excludes about 90 percent of the population in America. Don't believe me? Try getting health care through the VA yourself and see what happens. Did they turn you down? That doesn't surprise me at all as you are ineligible.
So, if about 90 percent of society, like yourself, is excluded from access to your supposed "socialized" medical care through the VA, how that hell can it be considered socialized?
VA medical care is not "socialized" medical care, it is merely government subsidized. There is a difference. And do you know what? The Vets deserve it.
"The fact that he takes advantage of it makes him, by definition, a socialist millionaire."
McCain is a socialist millionaire? Only in your world. The real world doesn't work that way.
T-man, you really have no clue as to how the VA medical care system operates. Eligibility for free health care through VA is determined through the use of a Means Test and you are required by law to list all assets and income EVERY YEAR to the VA. They do this because any medical care that is not COMBAT RELATED is charged to those who can afford it. COMBAT RELATED health care is provided at the cost of the government, as it should be.
If McCain is treated through the VA medical system for injury or illness that is not COMBAT RELATED, and he has the means to pay for that medical care (being a millionaire means that he does), then he has to pay for it, it's not free. So, how can anyone be considered a "socialist millionaire" when he, like just about everyone else, has to pay for his or her non-combat related medical care even if that medical care is provided through the VA medical system?
"If you jackasses would've enlisted all your kids, parents, cousins, in-laws, etc."
Dude, what country do you live in? This is America. How the hell can I or anyone else possibly enlist my kids, parents, cousins, in-laws, etc. into military service? I don't own those people and I can't force them into military service, or any other service for that matter. That's called indentured servitude (also known as slavery) and it's illegal! The only ones who can possibly enlist "all your kids, parents, cousins, in-laws, etc.," are those same kids, parents, cousins, in-laws, etc. that you speak of as we have an all-volunteer military.
ray,
You beat me to it. T-man has never let pesky, inconvenient facts get in the way of an incoherent rant.
FUCK YOU!!!!! MY BARACKS A LIGHTWORKER!!!!!!!
I wish kayinsane would crawl back under her rock. Her postings are about as exciting as watching paint dry.
heck, they might have some kind of agreement, who knows?
I'm sure it would go over well with the public that Edwards has an "agreement" with his dying wife that he can fool around with other women and have children by them.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
"By the way, Troglaman - if you don't like seeing the word "guttersnipe" then stop being a guttersnipe." jerome
I'll stop being a guttersnipe when you stop being a lickspittle.
"I would call it being a veteran and getting his due. My goodness, he sure did pay the price." susieQ
Are you the Church Lady?
The VA is socialized medicine. McCain's a millionaire. He deserves the treatment. What are we arguing about for the love of Mike? The term 'socialized medicine'? Instead of "a veteran getting his due," you could call it "God's Fairy Pony Round-up" for all I care and it's still socialized medicine. Face it, the VA is made up of a bunch of communists and McCain's one of 'em.
"I'm sure it would go over well with the public that Edwards has an "agreement" with his dying wife that he can fool around with other women and have children by them. Yeah, that's the ticket." publius
That reminds me. Didn't J Sidney visit his wife in the hospital or something? She'd been in a car accident and he wanted a...umm...divorce? Given publius' logic, the crippled Mrs. McCain must've given her permission for him to father more children.
That's not the ticket to some future event. That's a ticket to a reenactment.
No, tman, I'm not the Church Lady. Dana Carvey was the Church Lady.
"The VA is socialized medicine. "
I see your delusions continue. Why don't you try getting some mental health care at the VA? If it's "socialized" as you say, you shouldn't have any problem getting free care, right? If not, then stop lying to yourself and to others as to how the VA medical system operates.
How about it? You willing to try?
"Mrs. McCain must've given her permission for him to father more children."
That's some pretty twisted logic as McCain didn't ask his wife if he could have children with another woman while still bing married to her. But don't let reality get in the way of your stupidity.
"That's some pretty twisted logic"-Ray
Ray, Susie, Elrond, Jerome, et al.,
troglaman chose long ago that logic is not his strong suit. Using fallacious logic however, the man is on fire! He and I have gone back and forth on this subject.
"Do you mean the scandal bravely reported by the National Enquirer?"
-troglaman
This is an example of him using the Appeal to Popularity. He is saying that "Everyone thinks the Enquirer is silly so it is silly". Whether or not it's true, it's still a logical fallacy and weakens his argument.
"Let's see. Does McCain belong to the millionaire's club? Did the V.A. just pay for J Sidney's skin biopsy?"-troglaman
Here he is using the Fallacy of Irrelevant Appeals. He's trying to convince you with information that might be persuasive but is irrelevant to the matter at hand. The line he uses is easily confused with a Red Herring but in this case it's not meant to distract from the argument.
"If you jackasses would've enlisted all your kids, parents, cousins, in-laws, etc., we wouldn't be in this shit. Who's war is this? Hint...yours."-troglaman
Apart from the explicatives, which weaken any argument, troglaman here is using an Appeal to Force. He is saying if you don't accept my argument (if you can call it that) then you are an *explicative*. kayinmaine uses this logical fallacy often.
Whew! I've been out of town for a while but it's good to see that our trolls are still active.
"No, tman, I'm not the Church Lady. Dana Carvey was the Church Lady." susieQ.
No shit! Are you telling me it wasn't YOU? I could've sworn...too freaky. Let's move on and pretend we didn't even have this little discussion...
"He (troglaman) is saying if you don't accept my argument (if you can call it that) then you are an *explicative*. kayinmaine uses this logical fallacy often" anon the dumbass sage
Not true, my friend. Instead of making a make believe argument, why not make a real one? Until then, you're a dumbass. Please make note that I called you a dumbass before you made the argument which dismisses me from the stupid "logical fallacy" thing...which I totally get *wink*.
"I see your delusions continue. Why don't you try getting some mental health care at the VA? If it's "socialized" as you say, you shouldn't have any problem getting free care, right? If not, then stop lying to yourself and to others as to how the VA medical system operates." ray
You're right, ray. No snark. ray's right.
The VA is socialist because the people pay for it. I'm not saying it's adequate. It isn't. But health care is free for Congress, the Senate and the Administration. And who gets the better treatment? The Soldiers or the Senate? You know the answer. And that's been done on your watch.
"Instead of making a make believe argument, why not make a real one? Until then, you're a dumbass" -troglaman
Repeating a logical fallacy doesn't help you when you've already weakened your argument. And as for your baiting me, I'm not arguing with you, I'm simply showing how you're not really arguing either. Not in a logical sense anyway.
"the stupid "logical fallacy" thing...which I totally get *wink*"-troglaman
I doubt this because of the way you phrased the statement. I however have faith that you may someday "totally get" the concept if you apply yourself. If you are in college then I suggest taking Sociology of Law or a class that centers on Rhetorical Analysis.
If you're not in college (pre or post) then try reading a little about the subjects. People could then argue with you in a real sense of the term and you'd look less silly.
Here ta help ya.
TMan, I just didn't want to play along with your simplistic games. If you want to talk adult, I'm ready.
"I'm not arguing with you, I'm simply showing how you're not really arguing either." anon the wise
Thank you. It's an honor. Really. How silly of me. Do you know the Dalai Lama?
"TMan, I just didn't want to play along with your simplistic games. If you want to talk adult, I'm ready." susieQ
Good. Then the next time I post something, instead of responding with "Tmans's got his panties in a wad", you could actually say something substantial. Or not. I'll respond either way. Be yourself, or don't. You have nothing to lose.
"If you're not in college (pre or post) then try reading a little about the subjects. People could then argue with you in a real sense of the term and you'd look less silly." anon the educated
College? You want me brainwashed by these godless liberals running these so called colleges and universities? How dare you!
Actually, I have a post graduate degree. So STFU. Rhetorical Analysis. You learned good.
"Actually, I have a post graduate degree"
A lot of good it did you.
Troglaman you are a delight!
You and your "post graduate degree" just keep on nonsensically popping off at us to your hearts content. You're like an old crank who lives in an apartment but keeps telling us to "Get off my lawn!"
Tman, I'm always true to myself. I'm very honest; but I have a very happy nature; and if this rubs you the wrong way, I'm sorry for you. Studies have shown that conservatives are overall a happier lot than liberals. I guess that's why sometimes you seem so bitter. I'm glad you answer me, as I like to hear the other side (as long as it's presented tastefully).
"You and your "post graduate degree" just keep on nonsensically popping off at us to your hearts content." anon
To tell you the truth I don't care about the degree other than I spent 6 years in the collegiate "demonic wonderland". It made a difference. Still does.
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