The Sky Is Falling!!!
Sounds like DUmmies, right? Correct but incredibly some conservatives are also sounding this way as observed on the FREE REPUBLIC. Even though the Democrats are now on the precipice of their own destruction we still hear gloom and doom from conservatives following the results of Saturday's primaries. Primarily because Fred Thompson came in a poor third in South Carolina where he was expected to do very well. However, I think things are looking better for Republicans and conservatives than ever in stark contrast to the intra party feuding of Democrats which is reaching the point of being irreparable. So here is how I see things shaping up. The GOOD news from South Carolina is that Huckabee the Huckster has most likely been knocked out of contention. So has Fred but if he campaigns this poorly in the primaries, would you really want him to lead the ticket in November? So now it boils to McCain vs Romney on the Republican side and I have little doubt that with his much superior organization and finances, Mitt will prevail thus making him the eventual Republican nominee. And, believe me, Romney is and will be a formidable candidate.
Meanwhile on the Democrat side, things look to get worse for them. Let's say Hillary is the nominee. Not only will that tear the Democrats apart but it means one, two, or possibly even THREE independent parties running to her left in the general election, drawing off votes from the Democrats. Think Bloomie, Ralph, and Dennis. Oh, and if Hillary is not nominated, you can bet that the Clintons will seek revenge by ensuring that whoever wins the Democrat nomination loses. They are playing for KEEPS. Should any of you doubt that whatever angst the Republicans are suffering at the moment does not come close to matching that of the Left as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD perfectly titled, "I'm very disappointed and pissed off tonight, so please forgive this, but..... What the hell are we? Stupid beyond belief?" So let us now watch the DUmmies grieve for THEIR political future in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, suggesting that all conservatives tune in to Limbaugh tomorrow to get a healthy dose of Rush Rays to set your minds at ease, is in the [brackets]
I'm very disappointed and pissed off tonight, so please forgive this, but..... What the hell are we? Stupid beyond belief?
[Yup!]
Jeezum H. Christmas. This country is rapidly going to hell in a handbasket, and what do we do? We are choosing to have another presidential race in which the choices are going to be Bad Vs Worse.
[I've been reading a lot of this same sentiment lately on the Free Republic. The big difference is their fears WON'T come to pass.]
Bad is eight more years of Wimpy and Corrupt kowtowing to the Corporate Elite by the Democratic Party.
Worse is eight more years of the GOP.
[Unfortunately for you, my little DUmmie, the "worse" outcome is the most likely one.-]
Why the hell don't we learn? Are we going to continue to be driven by the politics of nostalgia for a decade in which the Democrats presided over the Selling of America? Fer Gawds sake. Enron didn't start with Bush. Nor did the replacement of Civil Society by the Power of Capital. Nor did the polarization of the American economy, or the decimation of the middle class and the total crossing out of the poor.
I expect the Republicans to make awful choices. That's their job.
But Democrats are supposed to be the counterpoint to that. At a time when Corporate Power and Global Big Capital have their boots on our collective faces, one would think the so-called party of liberal and progressive values would stand up and fight back.
But instead, we are surrendering. Going for the V-Chip triangulating fellow travellers of the Corporate Elite. Ignoring any tinges of progressive populism.
[LEAVE HILLARY'S TRIANGULATION ALONE!!!]
Another Damn Issue-Free General Election in which Big Problems will be met with Small Answers.
[Since the Surge has worked, you have NO issues left.]
I will support the Democratic nominee, etc. etc. etc.....But it is so discouraging that at a time when the country ought to be ripe for real change, the Democratic Party seems to want to go Back to the Future and keep the "centrist" stranglehold intact.
It is so depressing.
Sorry I had to get this off my chest.
[Every Gloom and Doomer at the Free Republic should read this DUmmie thread to put things into proper perspective. And now to hear from the other depressed DUmmies...]
It's even worse... Choosing a centrist guarandamntees that someone else will get into the race ~ think Nader and Bloomberg. Another Republican victory.
[I'm thinking Nader and Bloomberg and another Republican victory and it's putting a big smile on my face.]
But in a contest between McCain/Romney/Rudy vs. Hillary with a Bloomberg in the race, it'd be better-than-even-money that the Democrats will have the oxegyn sucked out.
[That is a scenario that definitely does NOT suck.]
Bloomberg is an Independent. He used to be a Democrat and then changed to Republican so he could run for NYC mayor. And now he's an Independent and appears to be seriously considering a run, which would very much split the Democratic vote.
[That giant sucking sound you hear is Bloomie sucking the Democrat vote away.]
Edwards out, Obama soon to be? Just in time for "super Tues." w/ only "ONE candidate" Hillary Clinton will be announced the "winner" in the daze before super tues.
[Money talks and you-know-what walks.]
We are kidding ourselves. WE don't have a country anymore. THEY have a slave labor force. Hold on, 'cuz the ride is going to get real bumpy soon. Our financial status is on life-support.
[Did you know that Hillary used to sit on the board of directors of the Wal-Mart detention centers?]
I'm feeling bitter tonight, so I'll hopefully feel differently tomorrow. But if voters are so dumb and complacent thay they choose McPolitics over substance, then we probably deserve to continue to be led down the primrose path.
[Almost exactly what I've been reading on the Free Republic. Big diffence is many conservatives will feel better tomorrow when they get their dose of Rush Rays to set their minds right on what is REALLY happening in the political world.]
If I thought Sen. Clinton could easily win the general election, I would not have a problem with her getting nominated. She's not my first or second choice, and after that, who cares anyway, as long as it's a Democrat that will definitely beat the republican challenger. I'll vote for her, but I really don't have much faith that she can win the general election, and I truly fear that Democrats are going to snatch defeat from the jaws of certain victory by nominating the wrong candidate once again. Imagine how demoralizing it will be for us to watch John McCain get sworn in as President in Jan. of '09.
[I have an even more depressing thought for you: it's going to be Mitt Romney who will be sworn in as President in Jan. of '09.]
Edwards will say whatever it takes to get himself elected.
If tomorrow, a vast majority of the US population would favor bombing The Netherlands, Edwards would be the one shouting loudest he would push the button! He was a centrist DLC war hawk, and now suddenly he's a progressive anti-war populist? Suuuure....
[A DUmmie casts doubt upon the Breck Girl.]
My gut feeling is that Edwards found out about a conspiracy afoot while he was a Senator. He is abreacting quite publicly to what he found out - like "whoa guys, I never signed up for this!" He is campaigning in a parallel way as was Bob Graham in 2004 - Bob Graham who knew about the 9-11 conspiracy and almost spilled the beans, in fact ran for President on a campaign of potentially spilling the beans. Edwards knows what * and Cheney are REALLY up to and is campaigning his heart out because... he plans to spill the beans.
[So Edwards is a secret 9-11 Truther?]
When I became a mental health counseling intern, and, subsequently, a social worker, I awakened to the Corporatocracy. I really hoped for better this time. I, however, also hoped for better in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006.
[Mental health counseling intern---HEAL thyself!]
This is a culmination. The problems are so big. And, it isn't just us. The way the rest of the world is imitating our folly shows that humans are humans are humans....no matter where you go.
[Chicken Little declaiming on the falling sky.]
you've neatly expressed why NEITHER major party is likely to earn my vote...in November. I'm tired of squandering my vote on the lessor evil.
[We need more DUmmies like you.]
I'm afraid we may have to face the fact that the thieves have locked everything in place for the great heist, and they have been working on it for generations. When the last Great Depression was manufactured and thrust upon the common folk there were still clear skies, water, and food growing in many yards. There was a way for most people to scratch some food together. This next one will be a horror. It will not be pretty.
[Hey, I can survive the next depression as long as I have my Winn-Dixie discount card.]
posted by PJ-Comix at 7:25 PM
25 Comments:
pj,
do you have a link for the specific thread in which the posters on the Free Republic are predicting doom and gloom?
Wow! One of the commenters actually admits to being a Social Worker. These are the absolute dumbest folks with college degrees in the whole frickin' world. Bar none. They must suck IQ points directly out of your head in order to give you a degree in Social Work.
OTOH, it's kinda funny to see the DUmmies get slapped upside the head with a Reality Cluebat (TM).
"Even though the Democrats are now on the precipice of their own destruction we still hear gloom and doom from conservatives following the results of Saturday's primaries." PJ
You're 'opinion' is that the Dems "are now on the precipice of their own destruction." And then you actually "hear gloom and doom from conservatives following the results of Saturday's primaries." Seems to me one part opinion vs. one part reality.
Does anyone doubt the Dems are going to win next time around? That said, when PJ claims the Dems are on the precipice of destruction, doesn't he sound like he's pretty much full of it? Just asking.
Your victory is not inevitable. Clinton is a hated figure by half the country. Good luck with that, seriously.
"Does anyone doubt the Dems are going to win next time around?"
Yes, I doubt that.
"That said, when PJ claims the Dems are on the precipice of destruction, doesn't he sound like he's pretty much full of it?"
No, as his continuous postings of DUmmie screeds proves (not to mention all the Obama vs. Hill articles from the MSM).
"Just asking."
Keep asking, you just may learn something.
Ah, PJ, that little bit of 9/11 Troofiness thrown in there was the cherry on top of the sundae! Fine work!
And Trog, if one half is fact and one half opinion, I suspect that come November you'll find that you had it wrong as to which was which.
It would seem that the Democrat effort to populate the White House is splitting pretty evenly, and in interesting ways. But the consequences are so different!
While many, (like us), will end up "holding their nose, and voting for the Party Candidate", because he/she IS the candidate, the far deeper and more passionate divisions on the Left are more likely to see independent votes and stay-at-homes.
Die-hard Edwards supporters are particularly bitter, and cannot seem to face the reality that he is going nowhere.
Where will the split African-American vote go? Will men stay home if it's Hillary? Will Hispanics stay home if it's Obama?
On our side, while it is sad (to me) that Fred has not 'caught fire', I will still stand with him as long as he is willing to go on.
If he does bow out, I will not "take my marbles and go home", but will wholeheartedly go with my second choice, and hope that that choice is supported by a majority of my fellow Republicans.
I think we will win in November. I also think that the country in general is going to take a VERY hard look at the Democrat-run disaster that is Congress, and again, perhaps with much nose-holding, make some new choices.
It will be interesting, for sure!
"Does anyone doubt the Dems are going to win next time around?"
I doubt it, just like I doubted the "inevitability" of a Gore or Kerry presidency.
As far as the next presidential election and possible outcomes for the Democrats: Obama would have a far greater chance of winning on the Democrat ticket than Hillary even though he wouldn't actually win the general election. He doesn't have enough experience as an administrator and people know it. Running on a platform of "change" isn't going to help if you have zero experience in actually designing and implementing policies in an administration, especially one as large and complex as the Office of the President of the United States.
Not that it matters much though, as Her Highness will never allow Obama to be the Democratic nominee. She'll fight tooth and nail to get that nomination as she feels it belongs to her and her alone and she will use every dirty trick available to her to discredit and vilify him, both publicly and privately, in order to win that nomination. Her actions, with the help of her supporters, will split the Democrats far more effectively than any "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" could ever hope to accomplish.
Pan Troglodyte == chimpanzee
Hmm -- that would make troglaman (t-man, trog et.al) "Chimpy's" brother?
Wait a minute!
Yesterday they were gloating, Today theyre crying.
Shit, these people are truly mentally sick. Bipolar, I think.
Dr. Sanity would diagnose better.
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The poor DUmmies, they're never happy. Even the prospect of a Democrat victory in November fills them with dread. Hillary is now part of the vast right-wing conspiracy while Obama and Edwards are Rovian patsies. The fix is in, the sheeple will elect another corporate stooge who will complete the enslavement of the middle and working classes and send the poor to extermination camps.
Where, oh where, is a Fidel Castro or Hugo Chavez to save this distracted country?
Where have you gone Dennis Kucinich the DUmmies turn their lonely eyes to you. Boohoohoo.
THEY have a slave labor force.
Funny, but I don't remember supporting things like keeping minorities uneducated from attending inner city schools and on welfare so they'd keep voting for anyone waving the class warfare banner.
Edwards will say whatever it takes to get himself elected.
I'm thinking that earned a kewpie doll.
When I became a mental health counseling intern, and, subsequently, a social worker, I awakened to the Corporatocracy.
I always thought I was joking when I talked about libtards being the lunatics running the asylum. Apparently I wasn't.
But for the Dems to pull themselves out of the death spiral they've gotten themselves into, a number of things have to happen:
1) Obama will have to be the Democratic candidate. Just about every liberal (even some libtards) I've talked to agree that Edwards and Hillary are both un-electable. Agree with his politics or not, (I certainly don't) Obama comes across as an actual human being and has the charisma and pure likeability that Edwards and especially Hillary lack.
In the event of Hillary candidacy, expect a reversal of 1992, with a lot of progressives staying home rather than holding their noses and voting.
2) McCain has to be on the Republican ticket. Most conservatives can't tell the difference between him and the Democratic candidates. Their reasoning is that if they have to choose between liberals, it may as well be a Democrat so that they get the blame when things go to crap from disastrous liberal policies.
The only way a Democrat is going to draw in enough votes is if some conservatives vote for him/her, and the only way that's going to happen is for the Republican candidate to be a Democrat in Republican clothing. Since Huckabee looks to be out, (Praise God!) that leaves McCain.
Unfortunately for the Dems, I don't see the planets falling into proper astrological alignment and all the necessary pieces falling into place.
Let me clarify, wingnuts. If you say it, it's opinion. On the other hand, if I say it, it's fact. Dumbasses.
KayinMaine are you hijacking Trogalmans gig?
"Let me clarify, wingnuts. If you say it, it's opinion. On the other hand, if I say it, it's fact. Dumbasses." Son of Troglaman
Goddamn. This is like a horror movie. You're not going to jump out of the screen and try to suck my eyeballs out or anything are you?
This is a political blog. Substance should have some value, right? When PJ says Dems "are now on the precipice of their own destruction", he makes a bold statement. However, every indication, at this point, points to just the opposite. Am I missing something or is it just PJ's opinion that the Dems are ready to implode? You decide.
On the other hand, PJ quotes conservatives spouting gloom and doom which might indicate that conservatives really and truly are spouting gloom and doom.
So, son. You can now take issue with me or just post another lame parody. Your choice. (If you have the power to reach out and mutilate me, I take it all back. Every word).
"KayinMaine are you hijacking Trogalmans gig?" anon
Oops. Lame alert.
Troggy wrote:
When PJ says Dems "are now on the precipice of their own destruction", he makes a bold statement. However, every indication, at this point, points to just the opposite.
There's that myopia again! lol. Troggy, if you think every indication points to the "opposite" of DUmmie implosion, I am immediately changing my drink of choice to whatever you're having.
Am I missing something or is it just PJ's opinion that the Dems are ready to implode? You decide.
We have, you are missing something.
On the other hand, PJ quotes conservatives spouting gloom and doom which might indicate that conservatives really and truly are spouting gloom and doom.
Gloom and doom?... No. That's pretty much your side of the aisle (ala Harry Reid's "the surge won't work! We've lost!). Some of us do, indeed lament the loss of our candidates as they drop from the race (Hey, for now, Fred's still in, so I have a bit of hope), but I feel neither gloomy or doomed unless/until one of your socialists takes the White house.
So, son. You can now take issue with me or just post another lame parody.
Oh thank you, Lord Troggy, for graciously allowing me to "take issue" with you, a misguided leftard.
Your choice.
Again, my eternal gratitude for allowing me the "choice" of responding to your inane comments. Probably about as effective as explaining things to a bowl of pudding.
(If you have the power to reach out and mutilate me, I take it all back. Every word).
If I had that power, it would be tempting, but I would not use it. Your own posts do more for my interests than cyber-throttling you would.
I must say, I am a bit worried about Ron Paul running as an Independent and taking some of the Republican vote with him.
Fred is dead! Long live Fred!
Fred was dead before he started running -- too bad he wasted all that money on being a zombie.
I wish I were more jazzed about a candidate. Romney is probably going to be my candidate....more or less by default.
Wow, that was exciting...sigh.
There you go again, son of godfather, fighting a battle of wits with an unarmed person. You get your Earth logic out of here!
This is a political blog.
Actually, this is what's called a humour blog. I know I know, lefties have been humour-impaired since Will Rogers passed on, but well, perhaps one day this 'humour' thing will catch on and liberals will start being funny on purpose instead of unintentionally so.
"Troggy, if you think every indication points to the "opposite" of DUmmie implosion, I am immediately changing my drink of choice to whatever you're having." Son of Godfather.
Thank you, Son.
May I respectfully, humbly and with a great deal of sober humiliation, ask if you have anything solid about the Dem's implosion? Because I can't find anything. If you could offer me anything in the factual realm, I'd sincerely appreciate it.
Everything I read says two thirds the country thinks Bush is a cabbage. Around two thirds want out of Iraq. They think the economy is tanking...I've said all this before. It's not the Dems imploding, it's the RepubliDUms. Show me one, just one, indicator that the Dems are imploding. One...then tell me what you're drinking. Peace gesture.
"Actually, this is what's called a humour blog." basilisk
Humour.
"Did you know that Hillary used to sit on the board of directors of the Wal-Mart detention centers?" PJ
HA HA. Nothing political there.
"That giant sucking sound you hear is Bloomie sucking the Democrat vote away." PJ
Snort/Chortle. Bloomie. Right. So scary (that actually is pretty funny). Politics, Schmalitics. Heh.
"I'm thinking Nader and Bloomberg and another Republican victory and it's putting a big smile on my face." PJ
Ha Ha Ha. Me too. Because it's so damn non-political and yet so sublimely funny.
You're right, basilisk. Nothing political here. No sir.
May I respectfully, humbly and with a great deal of sober humiliation, ask if you have anything solid about the Dem's implosion? Because I can't find anything. If you could offer me anything in the factual realm, I'd sincerely appreciate it.
Seriously, troglamango... SERIOUSLY? Years and years of continuous and sustained Dem failure now topped with the in-fighting between your two top candidates (while they offer NOTHING other than attacks on one another)? You ask for "factuals" of simple realities. Read ANY paper, libtard-centric or otherwise.
It's as if I stated the sky is blue, but you choose not to believe and ask for proof. If you can't see it now, nothing is going to open your eyes to reality.
"Seriously, troglamango... SERIOUSLY? Years and years of continuous and sustained Dem failure now topped with the in-fighting between your two top candidates?" son of the godfather
Well, you never really answered the question. Infighting? So what. It's election time. You act like the RepubliDUms are above all that when in fact they're eating their young.
So. You didn't answer me. Show me one indicator that illustrates the Dems are imploding. One. Are their key issues tanking? Nope. Is their support evaporating? Nope. Are their poll numbers sinking? Nope. If I'm not mistaken, the numbers of people showing up in the Dem primaries is nearly double the RepubliDUms. What's up with that?
Where's the beef, son?
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