Monday, December 10, 2007

"Pelosi, briefed on waterboarding in 2002, didn't object"

"I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!" ---Captain Renault

And like Captain Renault, the Democrats, including Nancy Pelosi, are now shocked, shocked to find waterboarding going on in here. Thus we now have phony outrage from the Democrats over the very same waterboarding of which they were aware for five years and raised not a peep of protest until it became politically expedient to do so. The KOmmies are now having to wrestle with this hypocrisy on the part of the Democrats as you can see in this THREAD titled, "WaPo: Pelosi, briefed on waterboarding in 2002, didn't object." So let us now watch the KOmmies wrestle with the fact that their very own House Speaker was fully informed about waterboarding five years ago with no protest in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, preferring the company of Captain Renault to the Democrats, is in the [brackets]:

WaPo: Pelosi, briefed on waterboarding in 2002, didn't object

[Until it became politically convenient to do so five years later.]

Lead story in Sunday's Washington Post (not online yet)

[It's online NOW.]

"In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included future-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA's overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk.

"Among the techniques described, said two officials present, was waterboarding, a practice that years later would be condemned as torture by Democrats and some Republicans on Capitol Hill. But on that day, no objections were raised. Instead, at least two lawmakers in the room asked the CIA to push harder, two U.S. officials said."

[Nope. NO objections at the time. Only full support.]

This is disturbing. Reminds one of the scene in Casablanca, where the police captain claims to be "shocked, shocked" that gambling is going on in Rick's Cafe

[LOL! I had that SAME thought before even reading your comparison.]

According to the Washington Post story, some 30 members of Congress were briefed on interrogation techniques including waterboarding.

"With one known exception, no formal objections were raised by the lawmakers briefed about the harsh methods during the two years in which waterboarding was employed, from 2002 to 2003, said Democrats and Republicans with direct knowledge of the matter. The lawmakers who held oversight roles during the period included Pelosi and fellow Democrats Rep. Jane Harman (Calif.) and Sens. Bob Graham (Fla.) and John D. Rockefeller IV (W.Va.), and Republicans Rep. Porter Goss (Fla.) and Sen. Pat Roberts (Kan)."

[So only ONE objection raised and not by Nancy Pelosi.]

The story says Pelosi had no comment, but a source familiar with Pelosi's positions on the issue said she doesn't recall; and others said they did not recall specifically being briefed on waterboarding.

[Nancy tossed that waterboard briefing down her Memory Hole. And now on to the KOmmie reaction to this waterboard briefing of their own Nancy...]

Wow, just wow; do we think this is accurate? Because is so, it's depressing that only one congress person raised questions.

[That's because it was well before it was politically convenient to make such objections.]

. . they should be held accountable. I don't care whether they did it to "go along", or because Bush was seen as powerful so soon after 9/11, or because they had a torure kink themselves, or whatever the f*ck excuse they have - this was TORTURE, plain and simple, and anyone who went along with it deserves to be removed from office, if not sent to the f*cking Hague!

[So now you want Nancy Pelosi sent to The Hague?]

If this is true, Nancy Pelosi is unfit to serve in Congress, let alone as speaker.

[Gee, I wonder if Cindy Sheehan will bring this up as a campaign issue when she runs against Nancy next year?]

I would like to see the evidence. I think more blame must attach to Bush and the CIA and the Justice Department. If Pelosi knew, I am very disappointed and disgusted, but I would like some confirmation.

[I think Pelosi's "can't recall" means a definite YES.]

Has Pelosi responded yet?

[She can't recall.]

I hope this isn't true....this whole period of time that we've lived with the Bush Adm is like a bad dream...can somebody wake me now?

[I'll wake you up in January 2009, just in time for the Romney inauguration.]

Pelosi should step off of the waterboarding table and resign.
Enough's enough!

[Until recently I always thought of waterboarding as a FUn thing. I always like to go to the beach with a waterboard to ride the waves.]

She hears "Waterboarding" and thinks "surfing".

[Me too.]

One thing this does is open a door for counterattack: if I were Pelosi, I'd counter by putting impeachment back on the table and demanding a public investigation into the role of Congress in the affair, Democrats and Republicans alike, including authorization to make public the contents of any such briefings that really happened.

[If I were Pelosi, I would stay in my "can't recall" shell.]

Nancy Pelosi. I can't believe it. I had a bad opinion of her before, but it was mostly of her being weak and ineffectual. This goes way beyond that. I don't care to ever hear about how they are spineless or scared of the Republicans ever again. There is a moral line you don't cross even if you have a gun put to your head, and these people did NOT have a gun put to their head. Some asshole pundit made a calculation and told them that the voters wouldn't like it if they refused to go medieval on terrorist asses. So they caved. And we hear about it years later. If this is true, the people of San Francisco need to know. She better have a better explanation than "I can't recall." Bullshit.

[Somehow the specter of Cindy Sheehan entering Congress is beginning to look more like a reality.]

she should step out of the leadership position NOW. No wonder she didn't want to do any investigating. We can't give her a break.

[No, keep her as House Speaker. Nancy's ineptness is greatly appreciated by us EVIL Republicans. Hee! Hee!]

Put her in the stocks at the Hague, convict her, and let her eat cake in prison until she rots. Harman and Rockefeller too.

[Democrats eating cake...and their own.]

The prison at the Hague should become very crowded as it fills with all those who abetted the White House in their violation of the Geneva conventions.

[What's with the Left and their Hague fixation?]

If she's complicit, the entire party needs to reject her (along with Harmon and the others); they can call themselves Dems all the way to jail, but they'd better not be allowed to run as Dems. No DNC/DCCC support. No endorsements. Fund the primary challengers. Air ads saying that we don't tolerate torturers in our party. But most importantly, push for war crimes investigations of every single politician, servicemember, or civilian who can be proved to have been briefed on what was going on and did not blow the whistle.

[I'm disappointed that you didn't mention The Hague.]

I think that our elected leaders have been wiretapped etc and are in a sense are either being blackmailed or afraid of what might come out about them. Do you think that Larry Craig was the only one with something to hide? I'll bet they have dirt on everybody (or everybody THINKS they do). Pathetic is all I can say. A country with 300 million people has no one of integrity and REAL moral character to lead us out of this mess.

[Does Nancy Pelosi have a wide stance?]

It's way past time we face the facts that some of the people that are supposed to be on our side are not on our side and it's past time we face the reality that they're never going to be on our side, except for the times siding with us is personally beneficial to them. It's past time we take back our party and our country and I only have one more thing to say.... Primary challengers.

[And I only have one more thing to say.... WHOOPEE!!!]

It's OUR party damnit! There's more of us than there are of them and as long as we don't quit or give in... We're going to win eventually. The only way they win is if we LET them... and I'm not about to let them win.

[Good. Not allowing Democrats win. I can support that.]

It would mean a one-way ticket to The Hague for Nancy, too.

[Whew! I was getting a little nervous there with no mention of The Hague for awhile.]

This is why they can't impeach Bush. There are members of the Dem leadership complicit in just about every crime he's committed. Whether it's the Iraq War, domestic spying, secret prisons, or torture. That's why Bush rests easy in the White House. They can't come to get him.

[Impeachment is off the table but perhaps we could send them all to The Hague.]

The nation was so excited when she was became speaker. We thought that there was someone of integrity that was going to lead us back from the abyss. But ever since that day when she invited the children up to stand beside her she has been weak, compromising and ineffective. She is truly a scared little bunny, who does not deserve to lead.

[Standing with the cheeeeldrun was Nancy's Jump the Shark moment.]

I guess to be fair, I'll wait to see what Pelosi has to say about this. But it does seem to explain a lot of her actions over the last year. If it's true, she better step down.

[And then march directly to The Hague.]

Reminds me of The Manchurian Candidate just watched it this week, and found it even more disturbing now than I did when I first saw it.

[The Nan-churian Candidate.]

why don't we just invite the come to DC? that way, we can have the lot of these inhuman bastards all in the same room, impeach them as a class, and clean out OUR GOVERNMENT.

[Why don't we just abolish the Supreme Court and replace it with The Hague? A wet dream for all true KOmmies plus Justice Stephen Breyer.]

This might be why Nancy Pelosi has always been so adamant that "impeachment is off the table." If this report is true, Ms. Pelosi is knee high in complicity with war crimes herself. The Democratic leadership is compromised beyond belief. If we do not revolt and get rid of these ethical monsters we are done as a force for progressive good in the world. Nancy, you have to go now.

[Nancy, you have to go now straight to the Hague.]

People are calling for her impeachment, her imprisonment, her recall, they're supporting her crazy, Revolutionary Communist Party-supporting, Green party opponent Cindy Sheehan AND last but definitely not least - calling for her to be waterboarded and fed a starvation diet. Revolting. Absolutely revolting.

[FUnnie. Absolutely FUnnie.]


Anonymous skully said...

Its been a while since the loons have referred anyone to the Hague. Pelosi has to be the 1st Dem referred there though. Apparently she's now a war crimminal for not towing the moonbat line. It just gets better & better. 2008 should be fun.

The Dummies reference the Hague a lot, because they beleive this is where the Hall of Justice is and the Superfriends live. They want to bring Nancy there to get bitch slapped by Wonder Woman..being from SF..Nancy will probably like it.

9:00 AM  
Anonymous anon 1:50 said...


You're in fine form, Skully!

And has anyone noticed the quiet piling up of Dem Congressional problems? "Loser" Reid, "Waterboard" Pelosi, Jefferson, et al?

Why do I get the feeling that 2008 may be an excellent year for Republicans? Could it be that a synopsis of Dem behaviors in this Congress is going to be so damning as to put them out of the game for a decade?

Oh Lord! Let it be so!

9:06 AM  
Blogger Son Of The Godfather said...

this is where the Hall of Justice is and the Superfriends live.

LOL... NOT while I'm drinking my soda!

11:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, this is a good one. Too funny.

And these people are naive beyond belief.

12:47 PM  
Anonymous Ray said...

"It's way past time we face the facts that some of the people that are supposed to be on our side are not on our side and it's past time we face the reality that they're never going to be on our side, except for the times siding with us is personally beneficial to them."

Time, time, time is on my side, yes it is.
Oh, time, time, time is on my side, yes it is.

2:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Day By Day Strip... Just about sums it up for the Dems.

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch!

3:38 PM  
Anonymous kayinmaine said...

The only reason Iraq casulties are down is because theres nobody left to kill after Shrub and Blackwater’s genocide!

Stock market is crashing because George Bush has faked out the masses with, “The economy is great! Oil is low! We are winning in Iraq! Pray to imaginary God in the sky! Who cares if your house is worthless now!”, bullshit.

I bet you believe the attacks on 9/11 were orchestrated by Osama bin Laden, huh? Time to catch up! Even the FBI hasn’t listed Osama as a suspect all these years! The attacks went smoothly because Dick Cheney was in charge. It’s what he wanted. Halliburton had been in Iran forever doing business with the enemy and he wanted Iraq’s oil too dammit! He wants all the oil in any country starting with an “I”!

All the weapons shooting at Americans in Iraq came from Reagan and Bush Sr. Reagan & Bush Sr. were drug dealing down in South America and had death squads to boot!

By the way, the healthiest state to live in? Vermont. Least healthiest and dead last: Mississippi. Oopsie. The bottom five are all southern states. Sucks being from a red state, where racism is rampant, kids are raped by their daddies, and everyone carries a gun because no one can form words to end a disagreement!

How many reich wing schools down South care about their kid’s education? None! Honestly, most reich wingers don’t care about education at all….just ask Ron Paul, who’d like to ban the Dept. of Education for all eternity! Hey, if you’re stupid and illiterate, you are a neocon.

Anything is better than fascism, which is what runs the GOP. 75% of Americans are tired of fascism and crapitalism! We want demand socialism! And we demand it NOW!

5:11 PM  
Blogger Son Of The Godfather said...

I suspect kayinmaine may actually be True Patriot trying to prod us. Its ramblings fit with the picture of O'Donnell below.

The "amusing factor" is pretty high though. I hope we don't chase it away! :)

5:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too bad, kay, you're gonna have to suck republican presidential **** for the next four years.

5:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no way in Hell that "KayinMaine" is for real.

That's a walking, talking self-parody. Even the looniest DU moonbats would laugh at that post.

Somebody's having fun. And doing it pretty well, might I add.

6:18 PM  
Blogger Mr. Right said...

Have the blue-helmeted protectors of all that is good and pure frog-marched Pelosi off to the Hague yet?

Watching a major political party spend all of its time twisting itself into knots trying to pacify the mentally-ill fringe that has come to represent its base is a lot of fun sometimes --- especially when they get caught with their pants around their ankles and the lunatics begin to turn on them... "She's not really one of us! Her sanity is showing! Off with her head!"

God, this upcoming year ought to be sweet!

7:13 PM  
Anonymous dutch508 said...

check out kay's web-site. It should be shown at ever republican meeting as a tribute to the WWII films

"Why We Fight!"

8:39 AM  
Blogger Britt said...

Kay, are you aware that Vermont has no gun laws whatsoever? As in you can carry a gun on the street with no permit or anything. Of course you have low crime. An armed society is a polite society.

11:42 AM  
Anonymous Dubya said...

Yeah, but Vermont is full of Looney Lefties, so WATCH OUT!

1:50 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

Yes, but the Loony Lefties are *unarmed* so why should I watch out for them? What'll they do, put a big paper mache head on me? Or flash some of those old, flabby Code Pink breasts at me?

"The horror!! The horror!"

And let's keep kayinsane. She/he/it's so much fun.

11:43 PM  
Blogger The Gunslinger said...

Why do all 'bat commentaries read like someone deleted all the nouns and left just the adjectives?

Outrage and high dudgeon abound, along with wild generalities, bold accusations, wholesale condemnations, furious threats and turgid vengeance fantasies.

But there are never any actual facts.

3:31 PM  

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