"Forget Black Friday- Buy Nothing"
Remember Not One Damn Dime Day? That was the proposal by the DUmmies to protest Bush's re-election in 2004 by not spending One Damn Dime on inauguration day in an effort to make a huge dent in the economy. That sure worked out well...NOT! Well, the DUmmies are back again with another version of Not One Damn Dime Day. It is Buy Nothing Day as you can see in this THREAD titled, "Forget Black Friday- Buy Nothing." This is supposed to be a 24 hour moratorium on buying anything on Black Friday to protest what I'm not sure. However, it is FUn to watch DUmmies come up with yet another of their utterly useless schemes. So let us now watch the DUmmies achieve absolutely NOTHING in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that Black Friday is when Jehovah's Witnesses prepare their turkey dinners for their non-Thanksgiving non-celebration, is in the [brackets]:
Forget Black Friday- Buy Nothing
[Not One Damn Dime Day.]
A 24 hour moratorium on consumer spending
[Which should be as successful as Not One Damn Dime Day in bringing down our EVIL capitalist economy.]
That's my plan.... But I am a retailer. Fortunately, I don't give a shit about tomorrow. F*ck the gift-buyers.
[They will shun your lemonade stand, DUmmie TomInTib.]
why would you want to go a wade into a consumer frenzy anyways, stay home, eat leftover turkey and play video games in your boxer's.
[Post useless schemes in DUmmieland.]
I have to buy cat food but nothing else, I promise!
[No turkey leftovers for your cat?]
That's easy I'm always broke and have no plastic.
[Just don't be tempted to spend that dime you find under the bridge.]
We ain't buying nothing tomorrow but I expect to be as succesful as any other boycott I have particiated in
[Which means you will achieve exactly ZERO.]
Tomorrow is the first day in quite a few that I don't have to do anything--no school, no work, nothing. I have a date with my pajamas, my fireplace, leftovers, and the "Cold Case" marathon on TNT. I have no other plans. There isn't anything I want that I am willing to stand in line and fight the masses for.
[Speaking of which...are there any other TV marathons today? Perhaps a South Park marathon?]
Great, more useless slacktivism.....The number of Internet-advertised "protests" that involve sitting on your ass is staggering.
[DUAC! DUAC!]
But... if millions did and kept it going... it would be noticeable. And if that came with demonstrations it woudl really make an impact
[Yeah. The prelude to the storming of the Bastille.]
If millions did it, nothing would happen.
[And since only dozens will do it, even less will happen.]
Study the history of social movements...
[I've already studied Not One Damn Dime Day.]
Gandhi started with consumer strikes... and other strikes... it took a lifetime but last time I checked India is no longer a british colony. Or did I miss something.
[So we should all march to the sea wearing white diapers and bathrobes?]
posted by PJ-Comix at 9:01 AM
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Hey, where's the link back to the DU thread? I was just starting to have some FUn reading this and would like to see more!
My mistake. I just added the link.
I wonder if the DUmmies would be so quick to support a general consumer boycott if they realize that it would greatly reduce the sales tax revenue that liberals depend upon to fund their socialist programs? Somehow, I don't think they'd be so quick to support a "Not One Damn Dime for Welfare Day!" That would make them too much like, GASP!, a Rich White Conservative! The Horror! The Horror!
This will be every bit as effective as Bill O'Reilly's great Boycott of France. How's that Euro doing these days, anyway?
This will be every bit as effective as Bill O'Reilly's great Boycott of France. How's that Euro doing these days, anyway?
This will be every bit as effective as Bill O'Reilly's great Boycott of France. How's that Euro doing these days, anyway?
This will be every bit as effective as Bill O'Reilly's great Boycott of France. How's that Euro doing these days, anyway?
Ray said...
I wonder if the DUmmies would be so quick to support a general consumer boycott if they realize that it would greatly reduce the sales tax revenue that liberals depend upon to fund their socialist programs?
Ray, didn't you know that tax cuts increase revenue? That's the standard line from your side. Are you lying?
Oh, and Ray,
You're=You are
Your=poss. pronoun
it should be "your profane rantings" (previous thread)
"Ray, didn't you know that tax cuts increase revenue? That's the standard line from your side. Are you lying?"
You're confusing income taxes with sales taxes. Sales tax rates are fixed, the rates don't change as they are not indexed to the cost of a product. Income taxes are not, they are variable and are indexed according to the amount of income you receive. The more income you receive, the greater percentage of income tax you are charged.
In the case of income taxes, lower income tax rates actually increases sales tax revenue. Raise income taxes and people have less money to spend on products and they buy less, thus lowering the tax revenue those sales generate. Lower income taxes and sales tax revenue increase as people tend to buy more products with the increased wealth achieved through lower income taxes, thus increasing the tax revenue those sales generate. But you already know this, don't you?
Oh, and Anonymous,
Thank you for you're critique of my grammar. How am I doing on spelling and punctuation?
grammar n. 1.study or rules of a language's inflections, forms, etc.
grammar includes spelling and punctuation.
sales tax rates are not fixed, they can be raised and/or lowered just the same as income taxe rates.
"Ray, didn't you know that tax cuts increase revenue? That's the standard line from your side. Are you lying?"
BTW, A general product boycott doesn't lower tax rates and, therefor, is not a tax cut. Instead, by not paying sales taxes it is tax avoidance which is supposedly a Conservative practice. That's the standard line by your side, or are you lying?
oh, and Ray,
Economic Report: U.S. Retail Sales Down 2.4 Percent, Biggest Drop Since 1970 - 05/11/07
what were you saying about spending?
"sales tax rates are not fixed, they can be raised and/or lowered just the same as income taxe rates."
By fixed, I mean the tax rate does not increase or decrease according to the purchase price of a product, as I pointed out in my post. Perhaps a more accurate description would be a flat tax rate.
it increases or decreases depending on where you are.
Economic Report: U.S. Retail Sales Down 2.4 Percent, Biggest Drop Since 1970 - 05/11/07
The International Council of Shopping Centers reported a sales decline of 2.4 percent at 53 leading U.S. chains. That decline is the largest since 1970. 80 percent of retailers missed estimates. Wal-Mart was one of the leading decliners last month with sales plummeting by 3.5 percent. Rising gas prices this month have analysts skeptical about consumer spending bouncing back anytime soon.
"Economic Report: U.S. Retail Sales Down 2.4 Percent, Biggest Drop Since 1970 - 05/11/07"
Don't you know that sales revenue always drop just before the holiday season? People are saving their money to buy all the gifts they exchange during the holidays. Look at the sales revenue stats two months from now and the headlines will read: " Record sales achieved during holiday season!" just like they do just about every year.
Excuse me, but May is not just before the holiday season.
"it increases or decreases depending on where you are."
So do property taxes, but it doesn't make it a variable tax rate. You still pay the same rate as everyone else who purchase products at a given retailer no matter how much you buy.
"Excuse me, but May is not just before the holiday season."
You're right, it just after the holiday season (you know, like Easter) when sales revenue also decrease.
what difference does it make to the conservative credo about lower taxes bringing greater revenue? what difference does it make if it's fixed or variable? more money in the pocket is more money in the pocket either way. and either way you are full of it...
more good news...
Morgan Stanley cuts retail sales outlook
Morgan Stanley on Friday cut its forecast for retail sales growth in 2008, saying that the current "turmoil" in the credit markets will lead to declines in consumer wealth and available credit as well as more modest job growth in the U.S.
was May 07 just a fluke?
June retail sales take steepest fall in 2 years
Consumers put away their wallets in June, sending retail sales down by the sharpest amount in nearly two years.
The Commerce Department reported Friday that retail sales fell 0.9% last month, the biggest drop since August 2005. Demand for autos, furniture and building supplies all plunged.
BTW, here is a portion of a report about the current state of the economy dated Oct. 17 2007:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/FOMC/BEIGEBOOK/2007/20071017/default.htm
"Anecdotal reports from the Federal Reserve Banks suggest economic activity continued to expand in all Districts in September and early October but the pace of growth decelerated since August. Growth was similar to that observed in the last Beige Book in seven Districts--Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Minneapolis, New York, Philadelphia and St. Louis. The economy grew at a slower rate in five Districts--Cleveland, Dallas, Kansas City, Richmond and San Francisco. The expansion was variously characterized as "moderate," "modest" and "mixed.""
"Consumer spending expanded, but reports were uneven and suggest growth was slower in September and early October than in August. The manufacturing and service sectors continued to expand, but growth weakened--mostly for products and services related to home construction and real estate transactions. Several manufacturing and service firms reported that weaker domestic demand was offset by strong sales to global markets."
[emphasis added]
According to the Federal Reserve Board, retail and wholesale sales, alone with the economy in general, have been expanding and not decreasing over the last few months as some had predicted, although the expansion in Oct. is not as robust as in the previous months. Even though sales growth is less in Oct. than in the previous months, retail sales are still growing. It looks to me that retail sales, and the rest of the economy, bounced back just fine after the slump in May.
The economy, sales included, is expanding and not contracting. How does that fit in with your gloom and doom scenario?
Several manufacturing and service firms reported that weaker domestic demand was offset by strong sales to global markets.
Cause they are the only ones with enough dough to buy our crap. We are post-war Japan. Thanks Bush.
To suggest that the president has control over money markets is ignorant in the extreme. The factors that do are global and highly varied.
They are also cyclical. Even now our trade deficit has plunged, exports are up and tourism is showing signs of increasing. Money is pouring into the U.S. because of the increased buying power of currencies such as the British Pound and the Euro.
It's their turn to buy and our turn to sell and collect.
Your might want to check out a basic economics primer. It could help keep you from revealing yourself as a bitchy BDS whackjob.
Money is pouring into the U.S. because of the increased buying power of currencies such as the British Pound and the Euro.
And because the dollar is in the toilet.
we are not collecting. they are buying us up.
I think PJ should disable the ability for people to post on here anonymously.
Disagreement is fine, but not at least having some kind of a personal signature is a bit cowardly imo.
Also, it makes it a bit hard to tell at times if there are multiple DUmmie trolls posting or just one.
http://www.myspace.com/JasonMMyers
I know we aren't supposed to feed the trolls, but the boycott of France did make a difference. The economy of france, (not measured by the strength of the Euro!) suffered. Tourism was down 20%, wine sales to the US were down by 26% at one point, etc.
Do not equate the piddly strength of DUmmies to Bill O'Reilly. Furthermore, I didn't need to watch Bill O'Reilly to know that I should boycott French products.
Considering that the number of comments rolling in is back its' normal ( paltry, that is ) level, it really shouldn't be so difficult to discern the flow of dialogue. But if it makes you happy I'll do my part to sign a name...
keif,
Vous le vous coucher avec moi?
Well, let's see. Kennedy cuts income tax rates, and revenue grows. Reagan cuts income tax rates, and revenue grows. Bush cuts income tax rates, and revenue grows. Bush cuts capital gains tax rate, and revenue from the capital gains tax grows. These are facts, not opinions. The data is readily available. Thing is libs don't care that the revenue increases. That isn't their point. Their only interest in tax rates is to engage in class warfare for the purpose of getting votes, and for the secondary purpose of pursuing their socialist agenda. Again, these are objective facts about income (and cap gains) tax rates and revenue. Go look them up, report back.
Reagan cut income taxes and then signed the largest peacetime tax increase in usa history. tefra. go look it up and report back.
And Kennedy cut income taxes but every other imaginable tax from consumer to whatever kept rising.
Bush is simply lying. If you still trust anything his administration puts out you are a fool.
The revenues from income taxes increased all three times. Dare I say these truths are ........ Inconvenient?!?!?
Please identify the "consumer to whatever" taxes that Kennedy increased.
Also, I notice you avoided the capital gains tax cut. Wise move. Inconvenient.
I looked it up (actually, I didn't have to) The year AFTER TEFRA went into effect was the only fiscal year receipts fell during Reagan's tenure. Dumb move on his part, listening to the Democrats.
You can easily access these figures from government sources. Educate yourself. You have bought into a bunch of propaganda.
First off the kennedy tax cuts were passed in 1964 so officially they are johnsons' tax cuts. excise taxes continued to rise. see: urban mass transportation act of 1964. Spending of course went on unabated much as today, with the result being inflation as nixon took over. Re: tefra... reagan did sign that bill and 5 others that raised tax revenue. as for bush. his tax cuts were not nearly as deep as 1964, and corp. receipts went through the roof ( oil ). lot of good a a tax cut does when you wind up throwing that cash and more right back in your gas tank.
I have a date with my pajamas, my fireplace, leftovers, and the "Cold Case" marathon on TNT.
Uh oh, looks like the poster is a bit behind on the current state of liberalism. SF is considering banning the use of fireplaces, contributes to global warming !
Also saw an article which said that Thanksgiving does the same.
Somebody should write an article stating that everything people do causes global warming, and that we should all kill ourselves.
The mass extinction of liberals would then greatly reduce the problem, and make the world safe for Hummers ;)
"Cause they are the only ones with enough dough to buy our crap. We are post-war Japan. Thanks Bush."
Those sales increase Capital, Income, and tax revenue to America which would otherwise not be realized. Thank you, Mr. Bush!
Meanwhile, we here in America continue to buy the crap that comes from China, thanks to the trade deal President Clinton forced on us. Thank you, Mr. Clinton... NOT!
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