Thursday, March 02, 2006

DUmmie FUnnies 03-02-06 ("I just got home from Iraq....")

It was a grand scene in DUmmieland. A Marine veteran of Iraq returned home and began posting his observations for the DUmmies. Surely this vet would VALIDATE the leftwing worldview of the DUmmies, right? Well, things didn't quite work out as the DUmmies expected as you can see in this THREAD titled, "I just got home from Iraq...." So let us now watch this drama unfold in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, watching the DUmmie expectations being shattered yet again against the rocks of reality, is in the [brackets]:

I just got home from Iraq....

[As The Sad Little Pony Marine is about to give the DUmmies a Sad Little Story...]

As some may recall, I was mobilized and sent to Iraq (Fallujah and West Anbar) for the past 8 months. It was interesting, to say the least.

I served as an advisor to an Iraqi Army Battlaion, as both the infantry advisor and an intelligence advisor.

Does anyone have any questions about my tour/what it's like/etc.?

I just got home on Friday. (saw my 7 month old son for the first time).

[Uh-Oh. Somehow I don't think the DUmmies are going to like the answers this Marine is going to give them.]

First of all thank you for going over there. Second, do you know if it's true that now there are none Iraq troops ready? I heard this on Stephanie Miller's show earlier. Did you find out any of the other troopers, Iraqi or American, feelings about everything going on now?

[Please, please affirm our leftwing viewpoint!]

It's not true.

[Now that you quickly slapped down that DUmmie misconception about the readiness of the Iraqi troops, please continue trying to enlighten the DUmmies...]

I'd say that about half of the Iraqi Battalions are ready to operate independently. Our Battalion (as did many other) had its own battlespace in Fallujah. They were very successful. With less support and assets, they managed to capture more "bad guys" than any of the Marine units of equal size (Companies).
They lack competent logistical support from higher, though. Much of that is due to corruption in the higher ranks of the Iraqi Army/MOD. The attitude of the Iraqi army towards the current clashes, is pretty much "it's about time". They've sat back and absorbed so much Sunni perpetrated violence, that they are now just hitting back. Most of the so called "sectarian violence" has been one sided; coming from the Sunnis.

[GASP! mean the Iraqi army is actually gung-ho about carrying out its mission? This just does NOT fit in with our misconceptions!]

A new Zogby International poll has 72% of the troops wanting out by year's end. 29% want immediate withdrawal. In your time there, did you get a sense as to whether or not these numbers are accurate?

[That was Pied Piper Pitt relying on another phony poll. Oh, and 72% of all Newton schoolgirls want an immediate withdrawal of lecherous substitute teachers from their private space.]

I just wanted to say that my husband tells me many of the same things. He has met a lot of Iraqis while he has been in Fallujah and he says they are all pretty supportive of our guys who are there. I don't know if he has had a lot of contact with Iraqi military forces though, I think he meets mostly civilians.
I still don't approve of the war, and the death that it has caused, but sometimes I do believe that the press overblows the negatives. I don't know how I feel about that--part of me doesn't care because I want the war to end and whatever turns public opinion is okay, but mostly I'm just sick of the press sucking at its job.
When the war started, they covered it through rose-colored lenses, and now that some aspects are a little better, they're saying that it is worse... I don't know...

[A DUmmie who is edging ever so closely to a Tombstoning.]

What unit were you with? How do you know the disposition of the Iraqi Army? Do you speak arabic?

[A DUmmie attempting to give the Marine a skeptical third degree routine.]

I was with one of the Marine MiTT units. (under RCT8)
Iraqi, I was with the 2nd Bn, 2nd Bde of the 1st Iraqi IIF division.

[Specific answer there. However, the DUmmies seem upset by your answers.]

How were you able to know the "attitude" of the Iraqi army?
If you don't speak arabic. Also, how were you aware of any corruption? Did you witness this corruption? Or did you "hear" about it in briefings and intelligence reports? In the form of what? Theft? Did you witness any atrocities perpetrated by U.S. contractors like MPRI, Dyncorp or Blackwater?

[Back to DUmmie Dogma which believes that the U.S. personnel commits atrocities.]

I speak enough. Plus I had 'terps.
You try going on a couple hundred combat patrols with the Iraqis. You learn their attitude pretty fast. The corruption is apparent in that there are "no show jobs". Ghost Iraqis. Their pay arrives in a giant sack. They have no electronic banking.
If this was so in the US, it would occur there, too. As far as "atrocities" committed by the contractors, no. Those guys are glorified security guards with very little contact with the populace. If they were to try to detain someone, they'd be hammered for it. They didn't have the ass to come into our AO. -too dangerous.

[Thanx for shooting down the DUmmie myth about mercenary contractors committing "atrocities."]

So things are going swimmingly in Iraq? And you have seen no evidence of an impending civil war? Just curious... why are you propagandizing this information on DU? To the conservative f*ck wads that are lurking here. First off let me say you are all cowards. Michelle Malkin is a racist bitch. Rush is a coward who did not serve in the military neither did that limp-dicked Sean Hannity. You people are the most pathetic excuses for human beings and you will have your day to answer for the atrocities and lies that you have perpetrated. You are all cowards. The entire planet despises your disgusting ilk and you will pay. I understand that as most of your parents were indeed siblings your inability to be decent human beings who contribute to society rests in your defective genes. Now you may return to your hate and racism. I once had a "Bad Cat" who would not behave. I put him down because he was diseased and I didn't give it a second thought. You inbred sacks of shit, return to your basements or holes or wherever you crawled from.

[You want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!! Since the Marine has failed to affirm the standard DUmmie myths we now go into the crazed confrontation faze.]

Because He's Still in the Military He can't talk until he's out, at which point maybe he'll talk about torture, civilian killing, chemical weapons use, looting, corruption, imperialism, bigotry, abuse, intimidation, snipers, urban warfare, propaganda, etc... It ain't going to happen now, he'd be court-martialed. My only question is why'd he join in the 1st place? Was he aware of the illegitamacy of this fake war when he joined? Of course, that can't be answered either.

[Since the DUmmies can't handle the TRUTH, they now fall back on accusing the Marine of lying for fear of court martial.]

People are actually paying bribes to get in the army.

[No, NO! This isn't what we want to hear!!!]

Welcome back, but forgive me if I don't take your experience as definitive.

[Better to rely upon your vast experience of sitting in front of the glowing 'puter screen deep in your parents' basement.]

I would consider all of the violence our troops have inflicted on the Iraqis as provocation enough, especially when coupled with the military support and assistance we are giving the new authority's regime. How do you, as an American, judge and distinguish between the warring groups? Do you support the the new regime because there have been elections, or is there something fundamentally correct about them that they deserve your support? Is any resistance to the new authority justified? Why do you feel Americans should be the ones to sort all of that out, fighting, killing, and dying for the ruling authority, one 'sect' of a disparate population of sects and factions?

[Let loose with the wacko confrontational DUmmie talking points!]

So how are the troops general moral? and a recent poll taken of the troops suggested that a majority feel they should get out of Iraq
in a year or less- Do you find this poll has credence?

[It has as much credence as that poll stating that 72% of the Newton school girls want loathsome substitute teachers out of their private lives.]

Moral is high. At least amongst those of us who were out there in the midst of things.


I only have one question about Iraq should would we stay or should we go?

[Murtha says go but what does an actual VET of that conflict think?]

Stay for now. -my humble opinion. Leave when the Brigades can operate on their own. If we leave now, there will be a bloodbath.
NOT a "civil war". But a brutal attempt to destroy the insurgency.

[HURRY! HURRY! Tombstone this nasty Marine who refuses to validate our beliefs!]

Next question are Brigades fighting for there democracy or just picking up a pay check. I guess what I am saying is training them a waste of time and money. Do you know what the real count of Iraqis trained.

[DUmmies think ANY effort in Iraq is a waste of time.]

Everyone serves for a reason... some the cash, some the ideal.

[Thanx for an answer that won't satisfy the DUmmies.]

The ideal? What I would like to know is will the ideal protect the rights of Assyrian and other Christians (and Jews) that they had under Saddam Hussein? Will the ideal protect the Kurds right to self-determination?
Will the ideal prohibit torture and the death penalty, or will the Brigades stand by while the insurgency is "brutally crushed" when we are gone? Will the Shiites refrain from attacking the US if we decide to stay once the insurgeny has been brutally crushed by a victorious, Iran-aligned, right wing Shiite regime? That guy in the seersucker suit who ran against Jaafari, described as the "Secularist" leader of Al-Hakim's Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq -- is he (the slimy looking three-piece-suit "secularist" who ran against Jaafari) as "CIA" as he looks to my non-discerning eyes? Don't worry if you can't answer some of these questions to my satisfaction.

[Don't worry. He WON'T be able to answer those questions to your satisfaction since you are already so deluded as to believe that Saddam Hussein was some sort of civil libertarian.]

Also, how close is Iraq to an all out civil war? Does anyone over there like Bush? What is the average US sentiment about Bush? OMG, there's so much more but that will do for now to give us a beginning picture of what the real situation is.

[Please, please gratuitously BASH Bush!]

you have been deceived

[Since the Marine isn't giving us the anwers we require, he must be brainwashed.]

And you know this...because you have been let in the the secret? You must feel very special.

[Good answer, Marine. DUmmies do feel special and entitled.]

you are making yourself look stupid - learn the truth of DU poisoning

[Since your answers are NOT politically correct, you must be stupid.]

Either someone is lying to you, or you aren't getting the whole story..

[DUmmie anger in motion.]

No one's lying to me. No one has mentioned it at all.
We check the box if we've been exposed, no, if we have not. Period.
Grunts don't encounter it, because we don't use it. There haven't been many Anti Tank rounds fired since the push.

[Thanx for shooting down yet more DUmmie Depleted Uranium myths and making them look like Depleted DUmmies.]

No Questions You Could Answer without getting into a whole shtload of trouble here in this "free country". When you are out of the military, come back and talk then.

[Condescension from the DUmmies on embarrassing display.]

I can answer all questions. I just might not give you the answers you are looking for. My view over there was pretty mypoic. I was in Fallujah, and elsewhere in Anbar. I found Fallujah to be a very interesting city. Now that I'm home, I'm going to study the ancient history. It did not "suck beyond belief". It was dangerous. I saw unpleasant things. But I also saw inspiring acts. Lives saved. The little girls are the cutest, brightest things on this planet. Their future in that Wahabi Town is not promising, though.

[You can answer all questions...just NOT to the satisfaction of the DUmmies, my soon-to-be-tombstoned Marine.]

Are 85% of the troops in Iraq either that stupid or brainwashed?

[85% of the troops in Iraq KNOW that the DUmmies are stupid.]

Le Moyne College/Zogby Poll shows just one in five troops want to heed Bush call to stay “as long as they are needed”
While 58% say mission is clear, 42% say U.S. role is hazy Plurality believes Iraqi insurgents are mostly homegrown. Almost 90% think war is retaliation for Saddam’s role in 9/11, most don’t blame Iraqi public for insurgent attacks
Majority of troops oppose use of harsh prisoner interrogation. Plurality of troops pleased with their armor and equipment. An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year, and nearly one in four say the troops should leave immediately, a new Le Moyne College/Zogby International survey shows.

[And Zogby sent pollsters over to Iraq to interview the troops? Did they also make a Pitt Stop in Newton to interview the school girls?]

Did you see burned civilians? From the white phosphorus that was used? IIRC, some Italians did a documentary on this a few months ago and it was horrible.

[Another atrocity myth question...]

No. Not in Fallujah. I've never heard of WP being used too extensively, except to mark targets.

[...which gets shot down by the Marine.]

Why is your profile disabled? I don't know why but I'm a bit suspicious about all this.

[Because the Marine was too truthful, thus the Tombstoning.]

What are the troops feelings about President Bush?
Sorry to break up this lovefest. What are your feelings about Bush? Have you witnessed any atrocities perpetrated by American soldiers? Are there any atrocities being perpetrated by American soldiers?

[Atrocities perpetrated by American soldiers! Atrocities perpetrated by American soldiers! --- Sorry, the Marine can't respond to your diatribe due to being Tombstoned for being a truthteller in DUmmieland.]

Locking. This member is no longer able to respond to replies.

[Locking. This Marine is no longer able to respond to DUmmie diatribes due to being Tombstoned for telling the TRUTH.]


Blogger Britt said...

Wow, what pricks. Not only that, but what ignorant morons. They close their eyes and pretend its not there, then ask the mods to lock the threads. They talk about "echo chamber" of Free Republic, as they block a soldier from telling it like it is. I predict multiple threads about this, all saying this is a fake Marine, probably a LOUSY FREEPER TROLL.

12:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unbelievable. I don't believe it. The interesting thing, though, is that a good deal of the DUers weren't acting all crazy and instead were making politically neutral comments, nice comments, like normal people. Hopefully the actions of their peers and their administration will get them to see the light, together with this Marine's words.

2:00 AM  
Blogger Son Of The Godfather said...

PJ, I believe this is one of the most telling postings you've ever had up.

When faced with truths they can't handle, first the DUmmies deny, next they cry, then say "bye-bye".

I hope you can get this particular thread linked to a bunch of places. Folks need to see the insanity that infests the DUmmie underworld.

6:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He never violated any DU rules. He did not praise Bush, or advocate any conservative policies. He simply stated what he personally observed.

He was banned because he believed his own eyes, and told what he saw.

9:31 AM  
Blogger Staci said...

I love how they were asking about propoganda. And then they were making excuses how he wasn't telling the 'real' truth. LMAO. The whine the news sucks, but then they use it in his face. Down here in Miami, I saw someone do that to a returned Army Captain. I don't get people like this one bit. Stupid morons.

I am copying and pasting the rant calling everyone inbred. Such anger the little dummies have.

10:47 AM  
Anonymous mt said...

Un-freaking-believable. It's like watching a child stick their fingers in their ears.

You can always count on the DUmmies to always entertain.

4:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know if you posted this because of my comment to the article below, but if so, thanks for the coverage. If not, good eye.

Obviously, threads like this clearly reveal the libbie mindset, which is that 1) any facts that contradict their view of the world must not be true and 2) military people are ignorant and stupid, despite their public protestations that they "support the troops."

I wonder if this will open this Marine's eyes to exactly where he stands with these people. I know if won't open the DUmmies' eyes to what's really going on in Iraq. Nothing could do that; it conflicts with their world view.

CDR, USN (Ret.)

4:21 PM  
Blogger PJ-Comix said...

Yes. Thanx for the tip! ---P.J.

7:34 PM  
Blogger Bluto said...

Great post. Since you don't do trackbacks, here's my post, with a link back to you. Thanks for exposing this vermin to the sunlight.

7:35 PM  
Blogger Son Of The Godfather said...

PJ, I've e-mailed this post to Michelle Malkin, LGF, The Jawa Report, Instapundit, Wizbang, Powerline, and Drudge and others. I hope this gets circulated widely.

9:28 PM  
Blogger PJ-Comix said...

Thanx Bluto. I just enabled trackback for the DUmmie FUnnies.---P.J.

5:52 AM  
Anonymous Jason said...

Great post PJ, very eye opening.

I started a discussion thread about it back on one of my favorite message boards, Famous Idiot ( We’re all HUGE fans of Dummie Funnies over there, keep up the great work!

Also, good to see that you’ve enable the trackback, I’ll start linking to you from time-to-time.

2:33 AM  
Anonymous Jason said...

I think SOTG is right, this really does need more attention.

I’m going to also email it out the above mentioned places and I would encourage others to do the same. The more emails that come in from different people, the more likely it is for one of them to possibly pick it up.

4:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm surprised none at DU began chanting:

"And it's one, two, three what are we fighting for, don't ask me I don't give a damn next stop is Vietnam"

Hey man, it's like we're stuck in a flashback that continues to last long after the Magic Bus ran out of gas.

Thank God I got off that bus!

And, I really thank God for soldiers who are far more civil when facing the uncivil.

7:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My older cousin is coming back from Fallujah in June. He's working on intel, who to capture and when. I don't want to use him for political questions, but I can't wait to ask him what it was like there.

5:39 PM  
Anonymous Ninja R said...

A while back, I was doing some war debating on a forum. I had the same thing happen to me -- that is, they discounted anything I had to say about the war because I was a supposedly, that was supposed to mean I couldn't give my opinion.

How ridiculous.

I was recently discharged. I paid the old forum a visit and let 'em know my opinions haven't changed.

10:31 PM  
Anonymous goy said...

In a much (?) different environment, and on a completely different scale, the same thing happened to me at a Serenity/Firefly fan site forum I used to frequent:

I was TS'd for posting the following comment:

"It's my experience that most pompous, ill-informed and demonstrably hypocritical ideologues like SS are just that. And the color of their armband rarely changes that fact."

"SS" is a DU wannabe called "Shakespeare's Sister", someone who was quoted previously in the thread, but who's site was not linked until I did so, pointed out what a raving hypocrite she is. Other posts like that one elicited such thoughtful responses as "oh god that is hilarious, who is this new clown? ..."

I was told by "gossi" the admin/owner of the site that "Comments like this are not acceptable". My requests for clarification, and verification that he understood all the big words, went unanswered.

Yes, I'm ranting.

But there's a shout-down pattern here, as I'm sure most folks have noticed. It's not limited to DU, Kos and the other obvious lefty havens, however. It's in places as supposedly apolitical as a movie fan site, as well as in the hallways, by the water cooler, on the bus, waiting in line for a movie, in conference rooms before, during and after business meetings, and... I'd say "in the classroom" except that the number of unblinkered students in academia at ANY level seems virtually infinitesimal.

I think neo-neocon's psych eval of this mindset is dead-on: . And the image of a screaming child with fingers firmly implanted in ears is all I see now when I read about or experience this lefty behavior on line.

10:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what most of you conveniently overlook, as mentioned by another anonymous poster above, is that THE VAST MAJORITY of posters to that thread were actually SUPPORTIVE of the marine and his service! Those who took him to task numbered maybe 4 or 5 out of a toatl of over 100. But hey, why let the truth get in the way of a good rant.....!

8:57 PM  
Blogger Son Of The Godfather said...

What is unfortunate, anonymous poster above, is that the "truth" you speak of is right there in red and black.

THAT is the truth.

Your once-proud party is now controlled and guided by these type of people.

THAT is the truth.

Your myopic "truth" that only a small part of DU posters are anti-military is so ostensively obtuse, I'm surprised you even put it forward.

3:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"ostensively"..?? Never mind....

Not "my" party, mate. Once again, you make assumptions which can't be substantiated. Just like the "red and black". Take the comments of a handful of posters and try to make them representative of the majority.

Not very clever.....

11:18 PM  
Blogger Son Of The Godfather said...

Yes, "ostensively".

os·ten·sive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-stnsv)
Seeming or professed; ostensible.

[Late Latin ostnsvus, from Latin ostnsus, past participle of ostendere, to show. See ostensible.]
os·tensive·ly adv.

( is your friend, DUmmie!)

3:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll just keep using my Oxford English Dictionary, if you don't mind.....yes, ENGLISH...remember it? It's the language you lot USED to speak!

I was, in passing, questioning the appropriateness of that word in that particular context.

I note, however, your reluctance to address my major point. You misrepresent the collective view by highlighting the view of a minority.

I repeat...not very clever....

9:09 PM  
Blogger Son Of The Godfather said...

Stick with the mantra, anonymous, if it helps you. :)

4:20 AM  
Anonymous socialism_is_error said...

"Anonymous said...
what most of you conveniently overlook, as mentioned by another anonymous poster above, is that THE VAST MAJORITY of posters to that thread were actually SUPPORTIVE of the marine and his service! Those who took him to task numbered maybe 4 or 5 out of a toatl of over 100. But hey, why let the truth get in the way of a good rant.....!

8:57 PM"

What *you* conveniently overlook is that the Marine was banned from the site by the moderator(s). Why? His participation was limited to simple, honest responses, notable for their temperance in the face of questions that, in some cases, became overtly hostile.

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