DUmmie FUnnies 08-18-05 ("The A.N.S.W.E.R. Problem")
One of the truly entertaining (and educational) things about watching C-SPAN live coverage of Leftist events is seeing the flat out nutcases crawl out of the woodwork and take the center stage. Such is the case with the Communist A.N.S.W.E.R. They don't put on a phony "concerned progressive" face as many other leftwing groups do. They let it ALL hang out in all their lunacy. This is why the MSM usually avoids showing the A.N.S.W.E.R. speakers in favor of some motherly types. However, it is impossible to avoid the A.N.S.W.E.R. extremists when viewing these events on C-SPAN which is why DUmmie earthmama posted this THREAD titled, "The A.N.S.W.E.R. Problem." Apparently DUmmie earthmama is worried that A.N.S.W.E.R. will cause the September 24 Leftist rally (aka the NEXT Day When Everything Finally Changed) to be discredited. Don't worry, DUmmie earthmama, your fellow DUmmies have ALREADY discredited everything they have attempted. And if you think the A.N.S.W.E.R. folks are in Deep Wacko City, then take a close look at your fellow DUmmies. In fact, I suspect that quite a few A.N.S.W.E.R. folks already have DUmmie screen names such as mopaul or Indiana Green (note: I am NOT trolling as Indiana Green in DUmmieland). Therefore let us watch the loonie DUmmies argue over the looniness of A.N.S.W.E.R. in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, making sure to RECORD the September 24 comedy event, is in the [brackets]:
The A.N.S.W.E.R. Problem
[aka The DUmmie Problem.]
I went to the local vigil last night and was handed a flyer for the Sept 24th protest. I was planning on going to the DC protest, actually had a hotel reserved but after receiving this flyer, I decided to cancel my trip. WHY?
On this flyer from A.N.S.W.E.R., the top of it read "STOP THE WAR IN IRAQ." You betcha. But then it says:
- Support Palestinian people right of return
- End Colonial Occupation: Iraq, Palestine, Haiti
- US out of the Philippines
- US out of Puerto Rico
[If this bothers you, then perhaps you should TOMBSTONE yourself from DUmmieland. However, continue your meaningless whine, DUmmie earthmama...]
This is looking like a repeat of the Oct 25, 2003 march in San Francisco. I was there at the font of the march and had volunteered to carry an A.N.S.W.E.R. banner. Imagine my surprise when, expecting to carry something about bringing our troops home, I was instead handed a big green "Free Palestine" banner. Huh?
[This also looks like a REPEAT of quite a few DUmmie threads. Continue...]
I think A.N.S.W.E.R. needs to learn something about setting priorities and focusing efforts on one thing at a time. While I am certainly sympathetic to many of their other causes, in order to be effective we need to focus our energy on one thing at at time. We are marching in DC against the war in Iraq. Not against the Palestinian occupation. Not about Haiti. Puerto Rico? With all these mixed messages, we on the left wind up looking like disorganized clowns to the media, and they slant their reporting to reflect this perception. We need middle America to hear our voice ABOUT THIS ONE CAUSE. With all the other crap being protested we are going to wind up looking like we do not have our bolts screwed in right.
We are at a turning point in the country thanks to Cindy Sheehan. We need to do this right. We can not afford to make any mistakes here.
[Perhaps you should check first with Cindy Sheehan. Under the influence of George Soros, MoveOn.Org, and your fellow DUmmies, she AGREES with most of the A.N.S.W.E.R. platform.]
When you see the freepers protesting, misguided as they are they at least do it right. They don't dilute their message by trying to heap on every right wing grievance at once. They are there for one cause and one cause only, and they stick to their Rovian talking points. Simple-minded and evil, but effective.
[I guess you are taking my advice about Tombstoning yourself. When you say anything nice about Freepers you risk being excommunicated from DUmmieland.]
Please keep these protests focused on the war in Iraq. Once we win this, then we can "move on" to the next issue. Success breeds success.
I am calling A.N.S.W.E.R. today to voice my concerns and I hope more of you will join me.
["Hello, A.N.S.W.E.R? Um, could you either disappear or not act wacky on Sept. 24? Well, good luck, DUmmie earthmama and now let us hear from your fellow DUmmies are are no less loony than A.N.S.W.E.R.]
The poster in a sense is PANDERING to those news monopolies who have done such disservice to the American people, in every way--from acting as government propaganda shills for the war, to trumpeting rightwing minority views as the "mainstream." We MUST learn to IGNORE them--and how they portray demonstrators--NOT pander to them. They WILL distort and marginalize, NO MATTER WHAT banners people carry. Please understand this.
To most of the world, Palestine IS the point. We are the only people in the world who don't get it--because we have been so poorly informed about it. The unjust shoving aside of the Palestinian people, to make way for the Israeli homeland, and the Bush Cartel's carte blanche to Israel to shove them around some more--to build a wall around them!--as part of a Bush Cartel "grand design" to dominate the world and grab all of its remaining oil resources, is the HEART OF THE MATTER to just about everybody but the mis-informed and dis-informed American people.
[Is that you, Cindy Sheehan?]
I agree with your feelings about this entirely. I wouldn't go near ANSWER with a million mile pole if I could help it.
[Then you better not look at the Speakers' Stage on Sept. 24 because the A.N.S.W.E.R. folks will be front and center up there.]
This has always been a problem imho
answer is very good at organizing events, and more power to them.But when their speakers are on C Span,I cringe.
[When I see A.N.S.W.E.R. on C-SPAN, I APPLAUD because the viewers get to see the TRUE face of the Left, not the sanitized version presented in the highly edited MSM format.]
Just like Susan Estrich on FOX - they exist to make fools out of us...useful idiots!!!
[Are you claiming that EVIL rightwingers force-fed champagne to Susan Estrich on Election Night to make her look like an idiot?]
Don't want any free Mumia. It's stringy and tough to digest.
[And I suppose the "stolen" Diebold ballots are easier to swallow?]
I think the media focus more on them
because they do make us look like fools that can not get our shit together
[Don't worry. DUmmies make themselves look like fools without any help.]
ANSWER's strategy is plain for those who wish to see it. They are purely a Leninist organization, and they want there to be a broad anti-war movement but with the leaders of ANSWER calling all of the shots. This approach is not any different from the strategies voiced by Lenin in his famous papers, "What is to be done?" and "Letters on Tactics". In short, the ANSWER folks believe in a revolutionary elite that will seize power and dictate the revolution to those below. They are the revolutionary elite, everyone else is "those below".
[Thank you for that accurate description of DUmmieland.]
International ANSWER needs to get out of the way and new leadership needs to step in to lead the protest movement. When I go to a Cindy vigil I do not want to hear about Free Mumia, Palestine, police brutality, who's on death row, smaller class sizes. It's unbelievably incompetent and freaking ridiculous. I will not attend another event sponsored by ANSWER. They're an embarrassment to this movement.
[In that case your attendance at the NEXT Day When Everything Finally Changed is no longer required.]
We have to overwhelm them with numbers. We simply have to be in the streets to show that voter fraud is a real issue. There is no substitute.
Answer has been doing this crap for along time and of course a muscle solution at a Peace Rally is absurd.
[You complain about A.N.S.W.E.R. diverting attention from the main issue (getting out of Iraq) and now you claim the real issue is "voter fraud?"]
It's tough. Do you want a focused protest, or do you want 500,000 people to show up? ANSWER puts butts in the seats, and they do so by throwing the door wide open to all comers. It is scattered as hell, but I'd rather have 500,000 protesters come for an important march than a few thousand who are focused.
[That was Pied Piper Pitt opting for EXPEDIENCY by supporting A.N.S.W.E.R. Hey, Pitt, the A.N.S.W.E.R. loons don't sound any nuttier than you with your dopey theory about the Third American Empire. BTW, will you be wearinig skintight leather chaps to go with your black Midnight Cowboy costume on Sept. 24?]
The only reason anyone in DC gets excited about left-wing marches these days is that there is a good chance you can hook up with the sophomore from Michigan State again. She comes to town for every one of these and always has a little bit too much to drink on Saturday night.
[Is that you, Steve2470?]
The rally I went to in Union Square was hijacked by ANSWER
They brought their own mike. They gave speeches. They ruined the event.
BTW, CINDY IS ASKING PEOPLE TO GO TO DC!
damnit! every time there is big demo, there is SOMETHING that inspires people to attempt to discourage others from going.
[Are there fire ants in DC?]
I'm writing to A.N.S.W.E.R. today to express my admiration of all they've accomplished and to thank them for having been/being at the forefront of the antiwar movement despite the not-so-very progressives who think justice can sit around waiting to be taken up one cause at a time.
["Dear A.N.S.W.E.R. Thank you for being as nutty as the DUmmies."]