DUmmie FUnnies 12-30-04 ("How have you handled the past two months on a personal level?")

Remember the Robert DeNiro character, Max Cady, in the movie, Cape Fear? Well, right now, while reading this DUmmie THREAD titled, “Be honest: how have you handled the past two months on a personal level?” I feel just like that character when he was loudly laughing right behind a terrified family in a movie theater. The only difference is that instead of a movie theater, I am laughing LOUDLY at the Drama Queen pain the DUmmies are expressing over the election results. So, put on those really loud Hawaiian shirts, light up those cigars, and LAUGH at the self-pitying antics of the DUmmies. As usual, the pained DUmmie commentaries are in Bolshevik Red, while the… AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!…comments of your humble correspondent are in the [brackets]:

Be honest: how have you handled the past two months on a personal level?



I said this in another thread: I haven't slept well for nearly two months now because of this election. I can barely eat, and I've lost ten pounds. I'm tense all the time, I move rapidly between depression and anger, and I feel like I'm isolated.

Is anyone out there feeling like this? Or am I just taking this too hard? How has everyone else been since the election? What is helping you through it?

[< Max Cady> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! < /Max Cady>]

I know where your pounds went. I haven't slept well for nearly two months now because of this election. I eat all the time, and I've gained ten pounds. I'm tense all the time, I move rapidly between depression and anger, and I feel like I'm isolated.

[And I move rapidly between jubilation and elation, and I feel vindicated.]

No, I know where her pounds went. I've been the same way. All I want to do is eat and I've gained 12 pounds since the week before the election.

[NEWSFLASH!!! The election has been over for nearly 2 months. It is safe now to lift your face from that bag of marshmallows.]

I believe that our country will overtly become fascist and to live in a society like that is not in my vocabulary. I have two teenaged sons, a business and a very comfortable home, and am torn about shedding my "stuff" and relocating, resisting (and possibly spend my years meditating in a camp somewhere), or will I not have the courage and become like those in Nazi Germany just accepting?

[Just to feed into this DUmmie’s paranoia, they should have a French voice making announcement over a loudspeaker on Inauguration Day in D.C.. Then, ala Casablanca, the French voice is replaced by a German voice making an announcement starting with “ACHTUNG!”]

I am continually nervous and frightened. I grew up in a democracy, and living under a dictatorship is something I never mentally prepared for. My heart races, my hands shake, my feet sweat, and I wake up many times in the night. It doesn't seem to get better over time, although the depression is gradually replaced by anger and fear.

[Have you caught jock itch yet?]

I feel like a German of the '30's. I wince and grimly look around me and feel... very uncomfortable. It's hard to focus on work, I feel like our whole paradigm is about to change.

[Paradigms SHIFT, not change. Get your DUmmie talking points right.]

When I saw the election turn during the night of Nov 2 & 3, I kind of went into shock. When I woke up the next morning and my husband told me Kerry just conceded, I felt like my guts had been ripped out. I'm NOT OVER IT!! And I never will be.
But I know it's going to get a whole lot worse for our country before this nightmare is over. I feel like I've always been "married" to America, and then find out this "spouse" is a serial killer/rapist, on hard drugs, with a huge gambling problem that just wiped us out, before he ran off with my children into hiding, and his brother, the judge, just stuck me with child support payments that I can't pay, and I may go to jail if I don't come up with the money, which I can't, because I lost my job. << I know that sounds pretty melodramatic; but all those feelings of betrayal, desperation, injustice, hopelessness, outrage, insanity, loss, grief.... I feel them all at the same time.

[< Max Cady> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! < /Max Cady>]

I can't stand to get up in the morning without checking DU. I abandon my own message board to wait here for news. My fingernails - GONE. I forego make-up to check DU before I leave the house. Dishes tend to pile up for a couple of days now. I feel hopeless, disgusted, angry, motivated all at once. I email politicians and media people all friggin' day. My online friends are sick of hearing me talk about this stuff. I sleep until I can't sleep anymore, but still wake up too early. I am frustrated because people don't understand the magnitude of this or its importance. They don't know, and they don't want to know. I finally crumbled and cried (can't remember what development set me off; it was about 2 weeks ago).

[Somehow I get the feeling you WON’T be a New Year’s Eve Life of the Party person.]

And I am angry. I am angry that we are not taking to the streets like they did in Russia. I am angry that we do idiotic things--like standing in front on an empty house--when we should be taking our country back. Why are our leaders so ineffective?

[Don’t be so down on yourself. That freezing in front of Kerry’s empty townhouse bit was GREAT comedy relief!]

Nervous, irritable....a bit withdrawn, smoking too much, weird sleep patterns. I think I've lost weight; I know I'm vitamin-deficient in all sorts of ways, not much appetite. I know I don't laugh as easily as I did before the election. I know I'm not taking as much pleasure in fun silly things as I used to. Likeminded people help. The 'Return of the King' EE helps; oddly enough, so does exquisitely depressing music like Leonard Cohen and Nick Drake and Richard Thompson. (And sometimes 'Dr. Strangelove...' and Sabbath's 'War Pigs') Drafting endless letters to various political figures (two of which have actually gotten e-mailed) seems to briefly alleviate the symptoms.

[< Max Cady> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! < /Max Cady>]

It's been hard, frankly. I get a white hot surge of rage sometimes. What the hell is wrong with this country anyway? I live in Southern California. People in the red states hate us. They've got political power, thanks to the effing Electoral College. I've got relatives in Texas who are laughing up their effing sleeves. Where the hell are all the Democratic leaders? We gotta DO something about this. This sucks.

[Have you considered a Prozac overdose?]

I feel like I'm in the f*cking Twilight Zone. There is this big smelly Elephant sitting in the corner of my house but I can only talk about it with a few people. I think realizing the major media outlets have completely gone to the dark side is what really hit me hardest. I was a basket case for the first couple of weeks after the election - little sleep, distracted and feeling like I was going nuts, but since then I've learned to deal with this new bizarre reality I find myself in. Thank god I found DU. My wife has also helped calm me down a bit. I've never been one for conspiracy theories and this election fraud issue has always just seemed like elementary connect the dots - which is why seeing so many people in denial of it just boggles my mind.

[That big smelly Elephant sitting in your house just left one hell of a big pet deposit on your floor.]

dazed and confused...starved for the truth...angry, passionate, patriotic, fearful,determined, anxious and ready to fight like hell for the dignity and integrity of our vote! So much to deal with...it has truly been one hell of a ride...

[< Max Cady> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! < /Max Cady>]

I REALLY needed Kerry to win the elction, for me personally as well as for the country and the world. I hoped that getting GWB out of office would free me so that I could move on with my life. I live alone and have isolated myself terribly. I have been utterly unable to work or do anything to either be productive or make any money for over 2 years now. I have been hanging out in places where I sometimes/often see no hope for myself.

[Those heroin shooting galleries do tend to have that effect on you.]

Depression, preoccupation, nightmares, distraction, apathy, misery, hopelessness, insomnia, poor eating habits, social avoidance, repeated thoughts of expatriation and various and sundry other personal upsets.

[So where’s the downside for you?]

i am pissed though at being called idiotic yesterday on TV by Novak. if you missed crossfire, he called "us" in other words believers idiots. and said the recount is over and so it the election - and we are all looking for Kerry to come to our rescue. its things like that that bother me. that make me think every word we type is being looked at. all of this will be repeated by some moron on a freeper board. and taken out of context. makes me crazy.

[Hee! Hee! And may I place your name on the DUFU Ping List, DUmmie roenyc?]

I will never give up! Yes, I've put on weight, I'm drinking heavily and smoking pot when I can find it. I'm on antidepressants and stomache medicine. I vary between anger, sadness, and a numbness that pervades my soul. I have 2 Kerry, 2 DU, a Bush Knew, a What Mandate?, and a Don't blame me, I voted for Kerry bumper stickers on my car and I will continue to taunt the ignorant Bush voters with their stupidity and remind them of their responsibility for the next 4 years of fiasco at every opportunity.

[Take another hit on that pot and INHALE deeply.]

must we air our dirty laundry to the freepers
can't this be posted in the lounge, where the freeps might not venture?

[You must! You must!]

I try to tell people that this election was not fair & free....They say.."I did not here this on the news" .Then I tell them the news is owned by corporations and its in there best interest to keep the king in power bla bla bla .....they ask were is John Kerry?
I keep screaming but no one wants to here me , they tell me to GET OVER IT .....I know in my heart I'm not nuts and neither are the rest of us who are convinced of the fraud . Yet most people have no idea what happened and how the election system is set up. For many you vote, they count votes then there's a winner. I really think ignorance would be bliss..once you learn the facts about this its hard not to be totally effected.

[< Max Cady> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! < /Max Cady>]

it didn't sink in until the electors were certified. i was sure that the truth would set us free, and gulped down the truth every day here at du. i was sure we would be saved. but, once those electors were certified, it sank in. just in time for christmas. i had a horrible holiday, and took the family down with me. i am so torn. i fight within myself all the time to keep my sense of self. when you are the mom of 5 kids, that is already hard. but i have taken the misdeeds of the * administration personally. this is my country, and it feels like my kids have grown up to be axe murderers. either this is my country, and it is my duty to be a part of how it acts, or it is not my country any more. lose, lose.

[“I BELIEVE that John Kerry will be inaugurated on Jan. 20!!!”]

I was on the freeway on my way to work thinking Kerry wouldn't concede until ALL the votes were counted, my sister calls me and said he conceded. I was so upset I turned around and didn't go to work that day. All I could do was cry for the next few days. Then I got very angry at Kerry and Democrats, America and our political system. I withdrew from all action committees, TrueMajority, Moveon.org, etc. I decided that I would not do anything political ever again.

[< Max Cady> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! < /Max Cady>]

Not going out. No movies. Spending very little money. Feeling like the bad guys are winning and the Fundies are on a rampage. Playing video games - World of Warcraft is very immersive and I don't think about the Real World. Feeling helpless and wishing there was something more substantial I could do other than give money to places. Wondering where do we go from here. No matter what happens it will not turn out well - at least for some time.

[Perhaps you should consider posting to one of those dopey “I BELIEVE!!!” threads.]

. Feeling powerless SUCKS. I haven't been able to concentrate since the campaign got going. Every time I settle down and try to get some work done, there's a voice in the back of my head, saying "That criminal is still in the white house, whattaya gonna do about it?" and "He's going to destroy SS and you're mom's gonna be moving in with you," and "How can we prove fraud, can it be proven, how can you relax if it happened?"

[It sounds like the Son of Sam is talking to you.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-29-04 PM Edition ("Could the Dahli Lama help be a voice for us?")

This is a very short Dummie THREAD titled, “Could the Dahli Lama help be a voice for us?” However, it is so bizarre, even for DUmmies, that I just had to DUFU it. The very idea that the Dalai Lama would jump into the political fray here to overturn the election is completely laughable. First of all, I don’t think the Dalai Lama is even a U.S. citizen. Also, anyone who watched the movie Kundun would know the Dalai Lama would never get involved in political matters here. There was a scene in that movie where Mao Tse-Tung told the Dalai Lama that he was going to take over Tibet. So what did the Dalai Lama do? Did he rise up to protest this invasion by the Chinese? No. He just silently sat on a couch with a dopey smile on his face as Mao arrogantly told him the takeover of Tibet was for its own good. So it is hilarious that some wacko DUmmies are even toying with the idea of the Dalai Lama helping them out. Maybe they expect the Dalai Lama to sit cross-legged in the snow in silent vigil outside Kerry’s Boston townhouse. Anyway, the comments of the DUmmies from another dimension between time and space is in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, currently residing in this space/time continuum, is in the [brackets]:

Could the Dahli Lama help be a voice for us?
Shall we contact him? After all, it's his words keeping me going right now.

[Yes. I somehow remember the Dalai Lama telling his holy monks, “Kerry Won! Get Over It!!!”]

His whole life is bringing awareness and compassion to the world...Yes, he is beautiful. Does anyone have a connection with him?

[Check with Richard Gere’s gerbil.]

One may wish to contact Robert Thurman who has interviewed His Holiness, and who also has been interviewed on Air America Radio and he talked openly about this being another stolen election:

[Or perhaps one could also contact Robert Thurman’s gerbil.]

We can look to his wise words for guidance

[“A wet bird does not fly at night.” Yup! That ties in directly with Election 2004.]

Does anybody know his email address ?

[HelloDalai@Lama.com.]

I think he belongs more to the "spiritual sphere" than to the political sphere So I don't think they will listen to him (or he wan't speak about it).

[“Hi! I’m the Dalai Lama. My entire life has been a long spiritual quest. However, I am making this ONE exception to plea for Election 2004 to be overturned even though the Electoral College has already declared Bush to be the winner. Perhaps we could all hum a mantra to overturn the results. I will now return to my Spiritual Plane.”]

Possible...but he IS a political figure given his exile. I have a fantasy of him addressing the UN about US election fraud.

[Perhaps the Dalai Lama could also do a Mandalay Sand Painting flow chart to show us how Bush stole the election.]

Ok, I share this dream... I think there could be a moral "alliance" of guys like Dalai Lama, Richard Gere and other figures which would have a great impact on the thinking of Europeans. He should just put something on his website (?)... There are a lot of famous people which are listening to him and are connected with him through the Tibet mouvement.

[Have you thought of contacting Marcel Marceau to loudly protest the election results?]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-29-04 AM Edition (Pied Piper Pitt Does Gandalf The Wizard Impression)

Pied Piper Pitt, aka William RIVERS Pitt, after having his promise of something WONDERFUL happening on Monday (after the snow dog ate his homework last week) go up in smoke, is now trying to change the subject and cheer on the DUmmies with a dopey pep talk as we can see in this Dummie THREAD titled, “This is a great time to be alive.” This posting follows on the heels of a dopey story that Pied Piper Pitt posted yesterday about some guy who is a milkman who tries to be a dogcatcher (or was it the other way around or was it garbage man instead of a milkman). In any event yesterday's milkman-dogcatcher (or whatever) story was so obscurely ridiculous that even most of the DUmmies refused to be influenced by it (if they could even figure out what the story meant). So today, Pied Piper Pitt, has come back with another story, obviously influenced by watching the Lord of the Rings a few times too many. The REAL purpose of today’s silly story isn’t to rally the DUmmies. It is to make them forget that Pitt in his role as a political carnie barker did not come up with the goods at his circus sideshow. The Kerry signature on the insignificant legal filing by the Greens and the Libertarians got next to no press coverage with the sole exception of Keith Olbermann who pretty much discounted its importance. Therefore, Pied Piper Pitt has donned a Lord of the Rings costume and is trying to play a heroic tune on his pipe. Unfortunately, the Pied Piper Pitt’s pipe keeps hitting sour notes that don’t ring true. So YOWZA, YOWZA, ladies and gentlemen! Welcome to the DUmmie circus sideshow act! Step right into the tent and watch the Pied Piper Pitt do his AMAZING cheerleader act! Pitt’s performance and the DUmmie cheers (and heckling) are in Bolshevik Red while the review of your humble correspondent, critiquing Pitt’s act, is in the [brackets]:

This is a great time to be alive. Ask yourself: What kind of time would you like to live in?

[A kind of time like right now when the DUmmies, after having gloated excessively on Election Day when the believed the phony exit polls giving the victory to Kerry, had their Champaign go stale on them when the actual results came in. They then proceeded to provide us with great comedic entertainment by vainly trying to prove non-existent vote fraud while engaging in extreme fantasies of Kerry being inaugurated in January. (The “I Believe” threads are among my faves although Pied Piper Pitt’s performances are up there too.) In any event, please proceed with your latest pipe fluting Pitt…]

Would you like to live in a time with no great question, no great struggle, no great contest? I do not believe in Utopia, in a world of peace, because men are men and testosterone is addictive, and because power must always be held by someone and will therefore corrupt absolutely. But there have been times when people have only had to worry about their immediate surroundings, about their lawn or their crop or whether the King will conscript them to go fight the enemy across the sea. There is a peace in this, a peace in being absolutely powerless. Would you like to live in that time?

[It sounds like Pitt is doing a Gandalf the Wizard impression here trying to rally the DUmmie Hobbits against the dark forces of Mordor. Proceed, Pitt, this is getting funnier and funnier…]

Or would you prefer to live in a time where a great question is before you, where there is a great struggle, where there is a great contest? The gamble here is the slim, good, or certain chance of absolute defeat. Being involved at all means you have power, you have a say, you can determine the fate of the planet beyond the reach of your arm. Being involved means you must face the consequences of involvement, be there defeat or victory. Any wise person will tell you of the hazards to be found down either path, each hazard being equally deadly. Winning can be worse than losing, though both are in play.

[The fate of Middle Earth is in your hands, DUmmie Hobbits. Rally to your great Wizard, Pied Piper Pitt. And speaking of the latter, please continue with your Gandalf the Wizard impression…]

What say you? Where do you stand?

[We DUmmie Hobbits are with you Oh mighty Gandalf! Please finish your uplifting speech on a high note…]

I say this is a great time to be alive, and if defeat is to come, then let it find me on my feet, and not on my knees.

[YES! YES! We shall follow you into the Land of Mordor to Mount Doom where we shall fight the Freeper Orcs for in the Final Battle for control of the Middle Earth!]

Right on, William!!! and nothing is truly valued unless we fight for it!!! Winning back our Constitution and many other things will be well worth it ...

[Ah! A DUmmie Hobbit apparently joins the Fellowship of the Ring.]

I know not where others stand, for me give me liberty or give me death!

[On to Mount Doom!]

I remember seeing you on CSpan and thinking what a great speech you made.Within two days you posted a drunken screed bitching at DUers because they weren't acting like you wanted them to.You have done this repeatedly over the years Will,and you know it.Within the last couple of weeks you ran up to GD04 and called it a shitty swampo,and that this was the place where things were getting done.You ride the high horse continuously,but I've seen some of your emails to others and you're one of the nastiest people around if one isn't a groupie-like sycophant sucking up to you.

[You lousy Elf! How dare you cast aspersions upon the Great Gandalf, aka Pied Piper Pitt! For this act of HERESY I hereby revoke your powers of (almost) Eternal Life!]

As for the 'sycophant' stuff, that is nonsense. I get my ass kicked on this forum on a daily basis, because I participate in a way you have never approached. If I was interested in attacking people because they didn't agree with me, I'd have to quit my job and no nothing but respond to that. And again, since we're being honest here, I suggest you find a mirror. The post of yours above is the longest thing I have seen you write on this forum since you showed up. 95% of your posts are one-line snark attacks, hit and run bullshit that does nothing but cause trouble and hurt feelings. I've written 500 words to your one on this forum, and if some of those words have been ill-chosen, well, that's the result of having the balls to do more than snipe and flee.

[Attaboy, Gandalf! Way to tell off that naysaying Elf!]

You're getting a slice of fame,and like many you seem torn on how to act.I suspect you just want to be yourself and have a snarky exchange now and then,but then you also seem to want people to take your writing seriously.Unfortunately you're trying to both to the same audience,and it's something that rarely worksd for anyone.I've seen it happen to a close friend who is very popular in music right now.It's not a postion I'd wish to be in myself.I might be acting the same way.Contrary to what you think I hope you can find a balance between the two that's acceptable to you and your fans.

[Don’t discourage Pied Piper Pitt. It’s FUN to watch him do the Gandalf the Wizard impression.]

I am about to crack 30,000 posts. I've been here since May of 2001. I have gone through a hundred evolutions in that time, regarding candidates, priorities, beliefs, hopes, fears, personal issues - had a marriage blow up on me while I was here, and the agony of that lasted more than a year - etc.

Look. I'm just another activist who happens to write well enough to get a message through. At some point I crossed a terminator and became a 'personality' here, and out there. For a long, long time, I fought it. I just wanted to post like any other DUer, to vent my spleen like anyone else and to be obnoxious like anyone else and to be contradictory like anyone else. This place was my security blanket, where I could freak out (!!!!111) and enjoy the catharsis.

In the last year I have forced myself to understand that I can't do that anymore, and believe me, it has been hard. When I came here, I was NOBODY, just another poster needing help and support. Sometimes I fail at it these days, but not nearly as much. You are right to say that I have been an ass here on many occasions, but a lot of people here are asses on many occasions, yourself included. I didn't want to deal with the added burden. I hope that makes sense.

[Hmm… I am VERY impressed, Pitt. Perhaps I underestimated you. Up until now I thought you were doing a Gandalf the Wizard impression but now you are sounding more like Aragorn. Must check my “Return of the King” references.]

I know I'm ass but nobody looks up to me for guidance (thank the Lord for that).Your trying to deal with that is exactly why the poster who inferred I was jealous is wrong.It's a sucky position that I dont wish on anyone,and one of the reasons I dont post long things.The day people start taking me seriously is the day I have to act it.Joking is my only mechanism for not just sticking my head in the oven and if it's ever taken from me I'm fucked.DU is still my catharsis,and I want it to stay that way. As for the marriage thing,I can sympathize.My wife left me last week ( I can't imagine why! I'm so lovable and easy to get along with lol).

[Most likely your wife couldn’t deal with your OBSESSION with an election that has been OVER for nearly 2 months.]

I wouldn't want to be in Will's place at all,ever. I feel that he defeats his own purpose by insulting people then trying to rally them then insulting them then trying to rally them ad nauseam. Trust me,it's been going on for years here.I honestly do respect Will's talent,but he does himself no favors by lurching back and forth between the rah rah stuff and the scolding.The scolding and rude posts detract from from his good stuff and turns off many of the same people he wants to help,and who otherwise might help him.He's one person playing both the good cop and the bad cop.

[When Pitt is in his scolding mode, he sounds more like Gimli the Dwarf. However, I find his Gandalf the Wizard shtick much more entertaining!]

You know Will, I owe you a debt of gratitude. Back about two years ago, I was going totally nuts trying to figure out the reasoning behind going into Iraq. I spend days non-stop on the computer, trying to figure it out. One of those days I came upon an article you wrote about how you could possibly explain the whole thing to your daughter, how the neo-cons had hijacked the administration and their philosophy and background. It was the first piece of the puzzle that I found that made a bit of sense to me about the whole thing. You've been helping me and others try to make sense of the whole thing ever since. Keep up the good work, you have the gift of a voice that reaches people and shines some light of the truth into the darkness.

[Gandalf the Wizard has great wisdom.]

To die with the illusion intact is musical chairs. Sooner or later the music stops, and somebody's kids wind up standing there with nowhere to go. That seems to be our lot, and we can either be bitter about it or fight it. That's all I'm saying.

[Hmm… I need to check to find if the inspiration for this quote was in “The Fellowship of the Ring” or “The Two Towers.”]

I would prefer to live in a world where the future is secure. I would prefer to live in a world where our children are not drafted into unholy wars, and where faith and trust in our government is still warranted. Alas, we must play the hand that we are dealt and it appears that history is calling upon us. While I do not welcome this fight, I will not shirk from it. I stand with those battling for truth and freedom. I am in for the long fight, because I feel there is no other choice. It is a great time to reflect on exactly what being an American really means and what we are willing to sacrifice to preserve this Nation and our freedom.

[GREAT Frodo impression!]

At no time in history has the future been secure.
It has never happened. Ever. The differential has been, simply, whether the people have been aware of that or not. The Romans felt secure, and then Honorius saw the Visigoths come over the seventh hill. The walls of Troy lent a feeling of security, until Hector fell.

[Beware a Gift bearing Greeks.]

"I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened." Films can be instructive. Oh yeah, books, too.

[And if anybody thinks my comparison of Pied Piper Pitt to Gandalf the Wizard is mere hyperbole, I present Pitt’s own quote above as evidence to the contrary.]

"The day may come when mankind is beaten and humbled and has no will to stand. But that day is not THIS day. THIS day we FIGHT!"

[Anybody out there know the source of this LOTR quote? I’m not quite the expert on LOTR that Pied Piper Pitt or this DUmmie Hobbit appear to be.]

"Always after a defeat and a respite, the Shadow takes another shape and grows again." "I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do the the time that is given us. And already, Frodo, our time is beginning to look black. The Enemy is fast becoming very strong. His plans are far from ripe, I think, but they are ripening. We shall be hard put to it. We should be very hard put to it, even it it were not for this dreadful chance."

[The LOTR floodgates in Dummieland have OPENED!]

We are blessed in a weird sort of way to have had the illusion removed. We are part of the reality based community and that is a good thing. Of course, it took me seven years of therapy to embrace the realities, inner and outer.

[Suggestion: Commence another seven years of therapy.]

Bush has enveloped the world in a Cult of Death. Many will suffer and many will die. Every day that I can survive is a sort-of-great-day. Utopia is what the Cult of Death is now offering. Most people in this country have no idea of what we are talking about. Sad, really sad.

[George Bush as Saruman? But wouldn’t that role be more proper for Karl Rove?]

A little romantic and melodramatic don't you think.....The idea of being alive during great struggle may be a romantic and attractive notion but I don't necessarily agree that being involved means "you have power", "you have a say" and "can determine the fate of the planet". That's a bit melodramatic isn't it?

[Absolutely not. The future of Middle Earth rests on the fate of the One Ring.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-28-04 PM Edition ("Forget Kerry... He's forgotten us- RANT")

A few of the DUmmie Lemmings, following the tunes played by Pied Piper Pitt on his flute, have suddenly discovered that it is playing a sour note. Despite the promises that SOMETHING WONDERFUL would happen this week with Kerry’s signature placed on an obscure legal paper filed in Ohio by the Greens and Libertarians, NOTHING has happened. What little coverage this has gotten on the media was on Keith Olbermann’s show and he only mentioned it to discredit its importance. So now some DUmmies are realizing that, much to their surprise, Kerry WON’T be inaugurated this January. You can read the DUmmie anger directed at Kerry in this THREAD titled, “Forget Kerry... He's forgotten us- RANT.” We lead off this thread with a RANT against Kerry by DUmmie HeyManThatsCool. As usual the DUmmie rantings are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent is in the [brackets]:

Forget Kerry... He's forgotten us- RANT. In my mind, John Kerry is the ultimate two faced schmuck.
I worked my ass off for the Kerry Edwards campaign, contributed tons of $, and contributed to the GELAC fund. I feel like my contributions (and millions of others) were all for naught... because Kerry has no FIGHT in him…

[I disagree with your description of Kerry as a two faced shmuck. I would describe him as a horse faced shmuck.]

I'm angry about it! During the election when people were calling him a flip flopper I always defended him. But you know what? HE IS A DARN FLIP FLOPPER!!! He cant even get in on the election fraud problems right. He's all over the friggin place. What's with that? I dont think he's fighting at all FOR US.. I think he is covering his own ass so that he can run again in 2008. Fat chance that I'll support that. Fool me once.....

[Can I assume that you won’t be attending the vigil in front of Kerry’s townhouse?]

And yes- I DO feel like a dam fool for being so supportive. I was out there on the front lines every single day. I've been telling everyone I know about the voter fraud issue. And wheres Kerry? No clue. Seems like only the Greens & Indys are standing up…

[Where’s Kerry? Have you checked the snow boarding slopes of Aspen?]

I hope someone with genuine integrity, conviction, spunk, maturity and common sense runs in 2008. Someone who isn't soley interested in being big man on campus. Someone who doesn't view everything through a PR view finder. Someone who doesn't walk away from a fight- and a necessary one at that- because they dont want to f up their chances of future presidential runs…

[Hillary?]

If no Dem comes up in 08 that rings true I guess I have a few choices... Green, Independent--- or just not bothering to vote at all. Obviously all votes AREN'T created equal.. and aren't counted that way. And so far no dem (Aside from Maxine Waters) is fighting for us IN A REAL AND VISIBLE WAY.

[Maxine Waters---Rumored to have cracked a smile in 1974.]

If he had any "fight" in him... where is he? Why is he ignoring all of this?

[Because he is busy snuggling up with Teresa, his Love Bunny.]

I give him until Jan. 6th to show his mettle. If he stands for democracy then I will coninue my support. If he fails to do so then I am through with him as a national candidate and also through with the Democratic party as well.

[Goodbye Democrats. Hello Socialist Workers Party.]

Even the staunchest Kerr y supporters will let loose a flood of rage IF Kerry and the rest of the Dem party doesn't stand and fight on Jan. 6th! Kerry has NO CHANCE of winning anyones vote of confidence EVER again if he does not stand up for democracy. Keep in mind though, we should feel the same about EVERY Democratic Senator and Representative who does not do his/her duty on Jan. 6th! I still have some hope left in me that he will do his duty. He has always liked doing the dirty work behind the scenes. These are the thoughts I have included to EVERY Senator I have written or emailed since this mess began. I think many others are doing the same. America is a hugely populated country. Even if the "nutcases" like us only amount to 20% of the population, that is a HUGE number of people. The Dems can't possibly think that if this many people can believe election fraud occurred, in such a short period of time, with virtually NO media coverage whatsoever, this movement will not continue to grow to proportions enormous enough to cause a serious crisis in this country.

[A great moment of self-realization there when you described you and your cohorts as “nutcases.”]

It's almost as if Kerry is just doing enough to make those of us who feel there were legitimate result-changing problems think he's actually doing something when, in reality, there isn't a whole lot you can point to that shows Kerry is helping our cause.

[So when did you finally wake up from your coma?]

He didn't attempt to "preserve the crime scene." He didn't ask to confirm the accuracy of voting machines that produced multiple voter complaints on public records. He didn't establish a vigilant presence in the continuation of the vote count. He says nothing while Blackwell makes a sham out of the Democratic process with blatant criminal behavior. He didn't establish and re-establish his expectations about the process of counting (and Recounting) the votes. He didn't talk about the vote suppression and the long lines that were factually based. He hasn't responded to new information about voting problems since his premature concession.

[Maybe Kerry should have surrounded the state of Ohio with a yellow police tape. Or is that Chrysto’s shtick?]

All of you- think for a minute! Go back to Nov 2. Remember the feeling of that day! The momentum. The positivity. The upward shift. Kerry was even writing his acceptance speech. People were ebullient! And then..... the bottom fell out. It is inconceivable to me that Bush won in any way that was on the up and up. I just don't buy it.

[You forgot to mention that the DUmmies were gloating.]

I cried when Kerry conceded. I was depressed and upset and disgusted by *s so called "mandate". I was happy and excited to get a glimmer of hope upon finding out about the election fraud. And ecstatic in the realization that there was a distinct possibility that Kerry would claim victory after all. The past 7 weeks have been an emotional roller coaster and I've spent it waiting and watching for some good news, some great news, some fabulous news.

[Keep waiting...and waiting and…]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-28-04 AM Edition ("DUmmie Thread About DUmmie FUnnies!!!)

I went into DUmmieland this morning fully expecting to do a DUFU edition about them being hit hard by the shock wave of reality after the big letdown from the BIG EVENT promised them by Pied Piper Pitt. Yes, there are such threads over there but ONE thread superseded them all. It was this DUmmie THREAD titled “This will get your hackles up...” about our very own DUmmie FUnnies!!! Specifically this DUmmie is about yesterday’s DUFU thread titled “The Sadness.” As you might remember I promised to give any DUmmie thread devoted to the DUFUs TOP PRIORITY! Every once in a while the inhabitants of my DUmmie Ant farm take a break from their normal routine and observe the big guy watching them through the glass. Let us now enjoy the DUmmies critiquing the DUmmie FUnnies. The DUmmie critiques are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent’s, enduring the slings and arrows of DUmmie slurs, is in the [brackets]:

This will get your hackles up...If you want to get psyched up for continuing this battle for democracy, just read this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1308991/posts

[WOO! HOO! Despite the fact that there is a WEALTH of material today in DUmmieland about the vast DUmmie disappointment over the many unfulfilled promises of an overturned election, I chose this thread because it is devoted to the DUmmie FUnnies. The world can change its orbit (it almost did with Sunday’s earthquake) but I ALWAYS give TOP PRIORITY to DUmmie threads about the DUFUs.]

one more reason to get a grip and quit airing our laundry ...and emotional baggage. This election was stolen. We must stay focused....people were deprived of their right to vote, etc. Stay focused.

[Stay focused… Don’t let the fact that we are making laughingstocks of ourselves divert us… Stay focused. Ignore the mocking… Get a grip. Ignore them laughing at us… Election was stolen… WILL YOU DAMN FREEPERS QUIT LAUGHING AT US SO WE CAN STAY FOCUSED!!!…Get a grip…]

Nah...who cares what they think.

[May I place you on the PING List?]

whats with that bad art by PJ-Comix

[Ahhh! This marks the first time my name has been mentioned in DUmmieland. Actually Bob Lizarraga drew the original Li’l Beaver which has been modified to a 3-D effect. To give justice to Bob, I present below one of his 2-D panels featuring Li’l Beaver and the G-Man (G. Gordon Liddy).]

God Sees The freepers , and weeps

[I see the DUmmies, and laugh.]

*rolls eyes* I'm just not affected by them anymore. They're just looking to get us mad, and it simply doesn't work on me anymore. *shrug*

Although this: 'I'm predicting some mass suicides come January. Did I say "predict". I meant "hoping for".' was ridiculous. "Yeah, you're Democrats, SO DIE!!!!!"

[That latter wasn’t my post. I’m a bit more generous to the DUmmies. I always provide a Suicide Hotline number: 1-800-BUSH-WON.]

History repeats...Brownshirts then, Freepers now. Nothing new.

[That was a cruel analogy. But just to show you there are no hard feelings, I shall sing a little bedtime song to you DUmmies.]

[Oh Fatherland, Fatherland,

Show us the sign

Your children have waited to see.

The morning will come

When the world is mine.

Tomorrow belongs to me!]




"I will have the car mileage to prove it" is actually pretty goddam funny.

[How about “Pied Piper Pitt?” Since the infamous William RIVERS Pitt made the above post I would like his input on that. Hmmm….This is getting interesting. Now that Pied Piper Pitt has been quickly losing his credibility with the DUmmies he might be seeing that his bread and butter could be located over on the Dark Side. But will YOURS TRULY succumb to this Pitt flattery? I’ll put it like this: Pied Piper Pitt has a standing invitation to the DUFU book party. I really hope he shows up playing a flute and dressed up like the Pied Piper of Hamelin.]

No. I won't waste my time reading that site. What's the point?

[Reality check.]

That was a pretty lame attempt at freeper humor...What really fascinates me is the hard on this guy has for Will Pitt. What an amazing herd of unfortunate ejaculations these Freepers are. Where are all the anthropologists?

[Pitt is interesting in that he is like a carnie barker at a circus sideshow. He barks out all sort of exciting vote fraud performances inside the tent. When the DUmmie suckers enter they see that is was all hype. The equivalent of entering a sideshow carnie tent expecting to see a half naked exotic South Seas dancer only to be confronted by a fully dressed hausfrau hag. I think the DUmmies now realize that the exotic dancer promised by carnie barker Pitt is merely a frumpy hag. Sorry, no refunds at the carnie tents.]

Boy - they spend a lot of time tracking us... that can't be bad!!

[True. Although you all failed miserably in the politics department you have been EXCELLENT inadvertent comedians.]

i actually think they are secretly in love with us.

[Sorry. I’ve seen some DUmmie pics in your gallery. Major turnoff.]

I went there because of that e-mail they sent you -- looking to...see if they had a thread about it. There is a ton of talk about us out there. I don't know if you've seen Three Amigos, but evidently we're their El Guapo.

[El Feo is closer to the truth.]

They laugh at anyone's misery. They seem to have nothing much to think about, but spend their time just cracking jokes showing no understanding of what we are trying to do. I suppose it is their forum for that purpose, but they seem to enjoy it so much it is just sick...

[Actually we do understand what you are trying to do…Look for the Vote Fraud Pot of Gold at the end of the rainbow…Which is why we laugh at you. But continue with your rant, DUmmie dlaliberte…]

If any of them are reading this, here is a clue about what motivates us. Yes, we feel pain over the apparent loss in this election, and yes we believe it could be different, and we strive to make a difference against all odds. But our pain is not just for ourselves, but for the world. We pity the poor, not to give them a handout, but to lend a helping hand. We don't pity the rich, who despise anyone who would deny them their tax break handouts….]

[DUmmie dlaliberte is definitely in contention for the Drama Queen of the Week Award. Please continue…]

You don't have to look far to see election fraud, but you have to look. We have seen enough statistical evidence of fraud to potentially overturn the election, but we do not have the legal control over the hard evidence to make the case indisputable. We have seen those who control the election process abuse it and cover up their abuse. And we see, but don't want to see, the prospect of being totally out of control politically, and this drives us to feeling out of control emotionally, sometimes….

[Key phrase: “And we see, but don't want to see, the prospect of being totally out of control politically, and this drives us to feeling out of control emotionally, sometimes….” And that pretty much sums up this whole “Vote Fraud” shtick. It is all about being out of political control. As for actual “vote fraud” it is strange that the DUmmies never actually show any specific examples of it except to claim that the Republicans MUST have committed it. Anway, put the finishing touch upon your rant, DUmmie dlaliberte…]

We see the truth that the election was a fraud, but you do not. You are witnessing not our psychosis, but our many ways of dealing with your psychosis.

[Today the DUmmies are holding a vigil in front of Kerry’s Boston townhouse to convince him to “deconcede.” And WE have the psychosis?]

What a smarmy bunch they have nothing better to do? Of course not, THEY don't have TONS of shit to plow through like we have...because we aren't busy RAPING the world, PLUNDERING the taxpayers' wealth to ENRICH our sorry selves and RUINING the environment like they are. Easy to be RICH when you DON'T HAVE A CONSCIENCE and DON'T MIND RIPPING EVERYONE ELSE OFF. LET'S GET THESE LYING, SADISTIC CORPORATE PIGS OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT!

[I would respond to your rant but I am too busy pouring arsenic into the ground, polluting our drinking water, and generally RAPING the world.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-27-04 PM Edition (DUmmie Flames His Underpants)

A little change of pace away from the political scene with this edition of the DUmmie FUnnies. For you Freepers who want to know how to get your Dummie post count up while in DUmmieland without being exposed, simply go to the DU Lounge or General Discussion sections and you will find many non-political discussions in which you can get your count up. Sometimes the discussions, such as about movies, can be interesting and sometimes as in this case, it can be hilarious. In this discussion, Freeper LostInAnomie rails against certain kinds of underwear in this DUmmie THREAD titled, “Whoever invented boxers with buttons in the front is a GOD DAMNED IDIOT!” I don’t have too much problems with buttons but I sure do sympathize with general problems with boxer trunk underpants. I remember that all boxer trunk underpants made in Bangladesh were always at least two sizes too small. The only thing I could figure out is that a large person in Bangladesh would be the same as a person with a small waist here because they don’t have food in Bangladesh. The other day I bought boxer trunk underpants made in China. Okay, they fit fine around the waist but the bottoms were very tight around the leg calves. So tight that the other day at the library it felt like they were cutting off my blood supply. I didn’t want there to be an obituary for me in the newspaper saying that I was killed by my own underpants so I went into the bathroom and cut slits into the sides of the boxer underpants. Okay, that might seem extreme but it was definitely preferable to dying. Another time I was driving on the highway and felt somewhat uncomfortable below the waist. I checked and found out I accidentally put my underpants on backwards. Suddenly I had a panic attack about being in an accident and the paramedics discovering me with that pair of underpants on backwards. What kind of excuse could possibly explain that away. One final note, I don’t know how any guy could possibly wear briefs. They have NO breathing room. But enough of my underwear problems, let us join the DUmmie discussion on this subject. The DUmmie underwear observations are in Bolshevik Red and the commentary of your humble correspondent, wearing only a T-Shirt and a pair of buttonless boxer trunk underpants is in the [brackets]:

Whoever invented boxers with buttons in the front is a GOD DAMNED IDIOT!

My girlfriend bought me a package of boxers for an Xmas gift hoping that it would be something that i would be able to get some use from. Since laundry day is quickly approaching I threw them on today without noticing that they are button fronts, and I AM HATING IT!

Who the hell thought these things would be a good idea? Why would I want to make it harder to go take a piss? JEEZUS, when I've got to take a leak I have to spend an extra 5-10 seconds fumbling around before I can get it out to go. If I leave the button open my dong goes flopping out the front and I feel like some kind of pervert walking around work knowing that only a zipper is between my package and the world.

GOD DAMN YOU BUTTON FRONT BOXERS! GOD DAMN YOU!

[I sympathize with Dummie LostInAnomie in his boxer underpants problem but I prefer buttons to NO slits at all. I recently saw a flea market vendor selling such underwear for just a buck each. I was tempted to buy some but the impracticality of NO slits kept me from doing so. What was I going to do? Pull down my pants and underpants both whenever I had to relieve myself. I might be able to tolerate that in the privacy of my home, but to do that at a public urinal might give the otherly gendered types frightening ideas about me. So I would rather tolerate buttons than no slits on boxer trunk underpants. As for the “dong” problem, just leave a couple of buttons fastened and you can cut your “fumbling around time by a least a couple of seconds.]


i wear nothing, but tighty whitey's

[No breathing space. I hate those “tighty whitey’s.” I’ve worn boxer trunk underpants for years before they were considered kewl just for the sake of comfort.]


i wear boxers -- if it flops out -- it flopout.

[Seeing as how there is a Rainbow flag icon next to DUmmie xchrom’s name leads me to believe that he is a bit too anxious to have a “flopout.”]


Forgive my ignorance. But why don't you have the flopping out problem with regular boxers? Don't they just have a flap/slit? Is there some sort of trick I haven't noticed.

[I was wondering the same thing myself. Thank you for verbalizing my thoughts.]


Because... when unbuttoned the hole in the front is of ridiculous proportions. On boxers without buttons the hole it just right.


[Thank you for clearing that up. Actually I do have a few sets of boxers with just one button on the slit. They are rather superfluous since when they are unbuttoned, the slit is still just right. So I just leave them unbuttoned in case of emergencies. You just never know when too much iced tea (as happened to Algore) suddenly catches up with you….or you suddenly meet up with Petra Verkaik.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-27-04 AM Edition ("The Sadness")

The DUmmies have been on a real roller coaster of emotion. This past weekend we saw the DUmmies in full manic mode with 2 threads devoted to Kerry “deconceding” the election. The DUmmies were jubilant over this news, coupled with Pied Piper Pitt’s promise that there would be an earth shattering (later downgraded by the same Pitt) legal filing by Kerry today in Ohio. Yes, the DUmmies over the weekend were celebrating the impending overthrow of the Bush regime and the inauguration of their Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich this January. But, as inevitably happens with manic-depressives, the depressed mode always follows on the heels of the manic state of mind. Today’s DUmmie THREAD titled, “The Sadness,” reflects the current depression of the DUmmies. But fear not. The DUmmies will soon be celebrating the “inevitable” victory of Bush the next time Pied Piper Pitt “interprets” one of Kerry’s many subtle smoke signals. The sad, very sad, DUmmie posts are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary your humble correspondent, holding a tray of Meds for them, is in the [brackets]:

I've been thinking about the feelings that have passed through me since November 2nd. I've wondered at my intense sense of sadness - in addition to the anger and sheer shock and wonder - I have this intense sadness. Today a visual entered my brain - of these men and maybe a few women - sitting in a room - sitting in comfy chairs - sitting there planning these crimes. Hashing out the details. This crime and many others of course - crimes that took lives - crimes that broke hearts and souls and bodies - speaking the words out loud - forming the words - the sounds of them in the air.
I find it almost impossible to absorb. It is so sad - so tragically sad. We have so much work to do. I hope I can find a place to make a difference.

[Why are you sad? Isn’t today the day that Pied Piper Pitt promised you that Kerry would file a legal document in Ohio that would ENSURE his impending inauguration? Don’t worry. Be HAPPY!!!]


I have felt the sadness as well and a cold numb feeling as I realized how much hate and intolerance there is in this country, disguised by a veneer of religiousity

[I wish to console you. Let us both pray together to the Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich.]


Don't forget the ignorance, so carefully tended by the corporate media. It's the main reason we find it so difficult to fight these repuke bastids. Our only hope is to talk to people and spread the message that everyone should trust their OWN experiences and common sense, not the spin that comes pouring out of the idiot tube.

[And don’t forget to place your TRUST in Pied Piper Pitt. Follow his lead over the cliff. Remember, Pitt promised you INCREDIBLE NEWS about Kerry today. Of course, he also promised you INCREDBLE news that would take place last Thursday but the dog ate his homework…uh, the Ohio weather prevented the INCREDIBLE NEWS from happening.]

My mood has gone from absolute despair to "we're going to get the bastards." Now I'm mostly mad as opposed to depressed.

[Remember the Suicide Hotline number when your mood goes back to absolute despair at noontime on Jan. 20: 1-800-BUSH-WON.]


Through all the sadness and emotional turmoil of the past few weeks my subconscious is still full of hope and the dream messages I've been getting are stronger than ever...I really don't believe * will be inaugurated again.

[Trust your Inner Dream Message.]


There is always hope as long as there exists a beautiful group of people, like those here at DU, to go to when our hearts are heavy. I get great strength when I think about all those who have gone before us in great battles! I feel that there will be great changes coming, and that good will prevail. And, the person that John Kerry is also gives me great comfort.

[Trust your Inner Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich.]


I remember "hope was on the way.” Now we have a been cheated once again out of a president. The world is in such chaos and Bush should be impeached for putting us in this war we have no business starting. I just don't get it, where is the outrage? People should be in the streets screaming! Yet the MSM is silent and
most people are just paying attention as far as their fences surrounding their yards. It saddens and sickens me. Yet, I am so thankful for the DU and all who participate.

[Don’t forget to thank the DUFU.]


I feel hopeless, powerless, and leaderless.

[Definitely hopeless.]


I have felt a great deal of sadness,too...along with many other emotions! I know it's hard to wrap your mind around something so sick and twisted!!!! They have also tried (may I say unsuccessfully) to break our spirit! Our efforts will not be in vain! GOOD WILL PREVAIL! I sincerely believe in our cause...it is a moral and just cause. You can be sure that you have ALREADY made a difference by not being INDIFFERENT!

[You already have made a difference by providing LOTS of great comedy material for the DUmmie FUnnies. Oh, and don’t forget to return to your jubilant mood tomorrow for the next edition of the DUFUs.]


I feel kind of in suspended animation, like the election was some kind of horrible nightmare and that soon we'll all wake up and find out that it didn't really happen that way at all. It's just so-o-o-o depressing, and I find myself coming here more and more just to be uplifted. But I also like to think that if our efforts are successful and the election is overturned, or if Bush & Co. are forced out of office for all their crimes, what a wonderful example of democracy it would be for the rest of the world to witness and what a ray of light it would shine on this dark planet with all its problems. So I kind of alternate between these moods of intense despair and blinding hope ... probably pretty much like everybody else here. It's so good not to feel alone in this craziness.

[True. You have many fellow Moonbats fluttering around blindly in the darkness of DUmmieland.]


I know just what you mean - I stayed up all night Election night - I was in such shock - I refused to believe it. No one I know, blue as they are, would believe that the election was stolen.
I felt like I was in some psychedelic bubble.

[It sounds like you were partying with Susan Estrich on Election Night.]


I haven't been in an ACTUAL psychedelic bubble for many years now (too many?), but it might make things a little easier than this damn reality.

[For all you do, this acid is for YOU!!!]


Ever since November 2, I have found myself at time wondering of what could have been, seeing Kerry/Edwards inagurated on a bright, sunny January morning sworn-in, and enjoying the parade and inaguaral balls, walking through the Rose Garden or sitting in the Oval Office. I was hoping to hear on Election Night before Kerry made his acceptance speech "Beautiful Day" or "No Surrender" but instead it was a concession speech with a funeral atmosphere.

[DAMN that Bush for forcing MTV to cancel their Inaugural Ball!!! Another horrible side effect of the Bush victory.]


I know alot of folk who have never been prone to depression or "the blues", but find themselves today having trouble wanting to get out of bed. I think thats why so many jump for joy at the slightest hint of good news on this forum. For me I bounce between sadness and rage.

[You bounce between sadness and rage? Well, at least that is more realistic than those other DUmmies who are bouncing between sadness and happiness.]


I have severe, treatment-resistant Depression.
This election and all the questions surrounding our nation have left me bereft. I feel like someone took a two-by-four to my head. I'm left sitting here going, "What the hell? What the hell?"

[The two-by-four of the Bush election victory appears to have hit you hard.]


DON'T DESPAIR, help is coming. I CANNOT SHARE DETAILS, but something big, VERY BIG is in the works. stay tuned. There will be some very credible data soon. I will have the car mileage to prove i



[Driving around in circles again? But don’t despair. Pied Piper Pitt has promised us that <>SOMETHING WONDERFUL < /Voice> would happened today.


As a first time voter I didn't expect losing this election would be so hard, I cried for two days. The sadness came because I knew deep down this election was stolen. The sadness was overwhelming when I seen the video of the disenfranchised in Ohio.

[That video is now out as a DVD. I saw it being sold at the flea market yesterday: “Faces of the Disenfranchised in Ohio.” The vendor was selling them for $8 each, 2 for $15. They were in the box next to his XXX DVDs.]


I find it fascinating how we are this relatively small group who absolutely KNEW what had occurred election night - in such an organic way. I couldn't explain it to anyone - I just knew. I had no facts or figures - nothing to offer in the way of proof or even suggestion. I just knew. It reminds me of the film, Close Encounters of the Third Kind. A small group of people just spontaneously know they are to go to this one location at a given time and have no idea why. This feels like that to me.

[Interesting. Have you made a giant mashed potatoes sculpture of Kerry’s face yet?]


I also could not accept the election "results". It was horrible. In the early evening the TV network I was watching (CNN?) said that Virginia was too close to call, and I was shaking in anticipation. When they called VA for Bush by 57%-43%, I was shocked. After all that drama, it wasn't even close. Or so they said. I got really angry at the MSM. Maybe you did too. It was like they were toying with my soul, throwing me a bone that was only a mirage. From that point on, I felt like I was trying to stop the tide from going in, especially when they called Florida for Bush.

[So how many Election Day gloats did you post in DUmmieland before the REAL results came in?


Sometimes I even want to tell people about...the renowned Indian astrologers who predicted a Kerry victory, and about the so-called clairevoyant person -- the name escapes me, but someone posted an article in this forum about her or him -- who expects the election fraud issue to basically explode in around six months, in the middle of 2005.

[Indian astrologers and a so-called clairvoyant person…I’m very impressed by the reliability of those sources.]


I am imagining 100s of thousands of peeps dressed in black with orange armbands and/or headbands to symbolize working for the best (orange), while being prepared for the worst (black), in front of the Capital Building on Jan. 6th. gives me a warm feeling.

[Black and orange? Halloween colors. Trick or Treat!… Mostly Trick.]


All of us are not crazy...but sudden transformations can feel that way. Eyes open with the clarity of a full moon rising over an icy field. Dense snow has fallen all day, obscuring and distorting everything that was familiar. But now a fierce high wind is sweeping away the clouds and the stars are lighting up, one by one...it's beautiful, it's scary, this clarity.

[Umm…Speaking of a Full Moon and reading your Full post, I would have to disagree with the first part of your statement. It’s beautiful, it’s scary, this insanity. But most of all it’s FUnnie!!!]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-26-04 ("KERRY PREPARING GROUNDS TO UNCONCEDE--Thread 2")

The only thing funnier than a Dummie thread titled “KERRY PREPARING GROUNDS TO UNCONCEDE" is TWO threads titled “KERRY PREPARING GROUNDS TO UNCONCEDE.” Yes, the DUmmies unaware of the utter ridiculousness of this proposition have started a second THREAD titled, “KERRY PREPARING GROUNDS TO UNCONCEDE (Thread 2).” All this nonsense began the middle of last week when Pied Piper Pitt attempted to once again lead his DUmmie Lemmings over the Vote Fraud Cliff with a much revised post about how Kerry was about to file something REALLY IMPORTANT in court. I say, much revised because when NOTHING happened on Thursday, as predicted by Pitt, he came up with the excuse that his dog ate the filing…oops…I mean that the weather prevented action from being taken. Then after that Pitt started backtracking even more by claiming that the REALLY IMPORTANT thing that was going to happen isn’t all that important after all. I notice that Moonbat Pitt is making a habit of promising momentous events that never end up coming to pass. Pitt reminds me of Astronaut Dave Bowman in the “2010” movie who, in response to Heywood Floyd asking what would happen that they must leave Jupiter (home of A Perfect Rovian Storm) in seven days, replies non-specifically with a beatific expression on his face, “Something Wonderful!” Anyway, let us now return to fun of Dummie Fantasy. The Dummie fantasies are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, orbiting Jupiter in Discovery is in the [brackets]:

My question to you is what price are all of us willing to pay to restore this republic? Hell I will ask another one, what if the country breaks over this? AKA the south secedes?

[The South secedes if Kerry unconcedes? Indeed. Proceed…]


That said... IF this news is correct, I will sing Oh Tannenbaun... and remember December 25th as a historic day. Oh and if this happens, things will indeed get very interesting.




[“IF.” IF butterflies could tapdance will you sing “Oh Tannenbaum?”


Major wake-up calls are coming, one way or another.

[WAKE UP! Time to take your Meds.]


Sometimes I think a civil war is the only choice we have to regain our once great nation. It would be too easy to kick these Fundies and Freeptards butts. Seriously. I do believe we (Dems, Repuketards against Bush, and Independents) outnumber them. I want my country back. I am a Christian, but that wouldn't keep me from helping to defend our Constitution (and my God's reputation from lying Smirking Chimp for that matter) and going to war with others in this nation if it is the only way to get rid of the cancer that is trying to overtake this country.

[Hmmm… You claim to be a Christian and the first thing you want to do is KILL people. Interesting.]


Doubtless, Bush would be called upon to say something publicly, or in other words, concede the election to Kerry.

[KERRY: “I unconcede.”

BUSH: “Okay, you convinced me. I concede.”


i think it is way too 'premature' to say he is 'preparing grounds to unconcede'. we really don't know what he is doing. he is doing something, that is for sure.

[Kerry is tossing a bone to the DUmmie types in the form of a meaningless signature on an even more meaningless piece of paper.]


He never stopped fighting. Don't mistake silence for inactivity. Kerry's a warrior, and the smartest warriors know how to wait. I've maintained, since November 3, 2004, that all of this would unfold just as it's now unfolding. All this stuff takes time; the foundation needed to be laid, and for that, we have the Green and Libertarian people to thank. As for how Kerry's comported himself since the concession speech (which, I remind everyone again, had absolutely NO legal implication), it's been brilliant. Just goddamned brilliant. Respectful of F*ckface's "win." Respectful of the office of the Presidency. Respectful of the voters. All the while, people have been compiling evidence, and now, with the affidavit from the election worker, and other verifying documents and tapes, the time is ripe, as we lawyers like to say. John Kerry is our next President. I have never not believed that. And, in the next few weeks, I honestly believe we're going to see history made.

[PRAY to the Kerry Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich! He is our True Salvation!]


I have never doubted that John Kerry has been working this issue from day one. He is a smart man and he knows *. Members of his team have been personally screwed by the * fraud machine, so I strongly believe that he knew what they were going to try to pull.

[Members of his team have also been screwed by Kerry stiffing his own campaign staff.]


God how I hope you are right OldLeftie. It feels good just reading your posts lay out why and how it might be possible.

[That’s right, OldLeftie. Your fantasy posts have such a great feel good quality about them. Now tell us again how the Leprechaun at the end of the rainbow will bring us a pot of gold and make us all rich.]




Kerry is and always has been ready and willing to fight the good fight, but he is also very careful to make sure he has all his ducks in a row before he jumps into the fray.

[Kerry might have his ducks in a row but his goose is certainly cooked if he even mentions the word, “unconcede.”]


Lets play a game of what if. What if Blackwell rigged the election all on his own? If I understand this correctly, this is a violation of the 1965 law... and it is fraud. IT goes into the territory of who woudl get hurt?

[What if your lobotomy operation is postponed?]


It's not even going to get to Congress if the vote fraud allegations can be established in Ohio. It's going to freeze up the whole Electoral College, and that will keep the election from being over. If the election isn't over, and Ohio's votes are subject to judicial scrutiny, there can be no inauguration.

[And the Planet Earth will come to a dead stop in its orbit.]


This is going absolutely nowhere. I can promise all of you that this will go absolutely nowhere. The Baby Bush will be re-coronated on January 20th.


[And John Kerry will remain in exile on his Island Kingdom of Nantucket.]


If Kerry files that motion in Federal Court, this matter takes on a life of itself, and no external crisis, manufactured or not, will stop the law from going forth

[I predict the only thing Kerry will be filing this week will be his nails.]


I'd like to remind Breakfornews.com.....That you are going "all in" on these reports. If this doesn't pan out, you're going to look pretty foolish, so to speak and that your reputation at this forum may be permenantly damaged. I just wanted to remind you of that.

[Don’t worry. After Breakfornews.com turns into a laughingstock this week when Kerry does NOT deconcede, he will come back a week later with a prediction that Kerry will “redeconcede.”]


either that or he's trying to us all get excited so he can try to make us look like fools later IF it doesn't all pan out.

[The plan is working ahead of schedule. You ALREADY look like fools.]


Kerry's done everything perfectly. I mean, I cannot tell you how f*cking perfect this whole thing has been, from a legal angle. It's a work of art

[Kerry planned it all from the get-go. Losing in Ohio by over 100,000 votes, making sure that Ohio certified Bush as the victor, and waiting until AFTER the Electoral College declared that Bush won the election. The timing has been PERFECT!]


Didn't the Electoral Collage already meet and cast their votes? Like on December 13, 2004? And since the Electoral Collage elects the President and not the popular vote, nothing anyone can do to stop the process now.

[Be very careful how big a dose of reality you feed to the DUmmies. Most of them have a low tolerance level for reality.]


I think Kerry will be able to show to the country that without a doubt fraud occurred and that Bush did not win the election. He knows it has to be irrefutable or a sizable number of Americans will not believe and he also will have to deal with a negative media. To have a legitimate presidency, there can be no doubts and he knows this. No winning through a technicality like Bush did in 2000, because the media will kill him on it.
If he is making a stand, I believe he has the goods to back it up.

[I believe you’ve been staring at the Kerry Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich too long.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-25-04 ("KERRY PREPARING GROUNDS TO UNCONCEDE")

The DUmmies are in the process of slobbering down the Hogwash Soup, heavily irradiated by moonbeams, being served up by Moonbat Pitt. One of the DUmmies lifted his face up from the Hogwash Soup just long enough to get a breath of air and utter some nonsense about Kerry preparing to unconcede as you can see in this Dummie THREAD titled, “Kerry Preparing Grounds to Unconcede.” Now if Kerry tried to think of a better way to make himself even more of a laughingstock to the public, he couldn’t improve on this. Let’s see, according to this theory, Kerry will enter the Deconcession Chamber a couple of weeks after the Electoral College already announced the winner of the election (hint: it wasn’t John F. Kerry, although John L. Kerry did put up a valiant fight). One can only hope this were true for no other reason than to provide an enormous amount of joke material to comedians in nightclubs all over this land. Of note on this DUmmie thread is that the DUmmie FUnnies were mentioned and YOURS TRULY was quoted. In the meantime, listen carefully to the ever increasing rustling from the fluttering wings of the Moonbats circling Dummieland. The closer we come to the Inauguration, the greater the frequency of those fluttering wings. And now let us listen to the desperate sonar emissions from the DUmmie Moonbats. Their high pitch chirpings are in Bolshevik Red and the commentary of your humble correspondent, desperately trying to evade the falling Moonbat guano, is in the [brackets]:

If you haven't been following John Kerry closely, get ready to hear of surprising developments. The vote-defrauded, potential president-in-waiting has just indicated through his lawyer that the validity of George Bush's reelection is no longer a given

[HALLELUJAH!!! Great Joy and Jubilation! A Great Pillar of Fire shall ARISE in the sky as John Kerry prepares to depart his Island Kingdom of Nantucket to bring his Heavenly Realm to America and Rule for a thousand years!]


If you haven't been following John Kerry closely, get ready to hear of surprising developments. The vote-defrauded, potential president-in-waiting has just indicated through his lawyer that the validity of George Bush's reelection is no longer a given

[The reign of the Evil Emperor, Chimpus Kahn, is about to end! All hail our new President, John L. Kerry!]


Kerry's court filing will conjoin him to existing allegations that Triad Systems, a Republican-linked supplier of voting machines to around half of Ohio counties --"orchestrated" a covert campaign to thwart a legitimate recount in Ohio. If the allegation proves well founded, it could invalidate the Ohio recount and eventually even hand the presidency to John Kerry.


[YAWN! Been there. Done that. It took place during the Second (or was it the Third or maybe Fourth) Coming of John Kerry that was about to change the world forever. What happened is that Kerry allowed his signature which meant nothing to be affixed to a Green Party action which meant even less. After the teary eyed DUmmie expressions of faith, cynicism set in later the same day when the DUmmies realized that Kerry was just tossing them a bone so he could validate himself with them for the 2008 election.]


Got my fingers crossed. Maybe I won't have to leave the country!

[Don’t worry. The People’s Republic of North Korea will somehow manage to build the Worker’s Paradise without you.]


Is this real, if not BOOOOO!

[BOOOOO!]


I can't find ANYTHING about this in the MSM. I'm afraid we are getting our hopes up for nothing. There is nothing on any other website about this.

[And this DUmmie WINS a Kewpie Doll for the best Reality Check of the day!]


Most people will not hear of the Kerry legal move until Tuesday…


[…Or ever.]


Come out as our leader Kerry, and we'll be right behind you, my man, with our guns and ammo at hand!

[So much for Dummie support of gun control.]


Sounds like JK is going "all in"................

[Smart move. Going “all in” with a hand that has only a seven high card against a sure Royal Flush.]


Unconcede' is now my favorite word.

[I’m sort of partial to “Deconcession Chamber” myself.]


KERRY xmass and HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!! i got you back PRESIDENT KERRY!!!!!!! oh ya and f*ck you freepers . . . .

[A touching expression of “Kerry xmass” spirit.]


Has anyone had the courage to check on Freeptardville yet?

[Don’t worry. The Dummie FUnnies is giving rave reviews to your comedy act.]


Not about that article, but this is funny....
I made it on there twice, how nice! Morons...his arguments make absolutely no sense. They seem to be spending (suspiciously) much time on the latest Kerry posts...


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1308161/posts




[WOO! HOO! DUmmie femme.democratique, I shall overlook your gratuitous slam against MOI and ABSOLVE you of all your Political Sins (for today only) for posting a Link to a Dummie FUnnies edition plus giving a great review to the DUFUs (“…this is funny…”). Flattery will get you EVERYWHERE!!!]


check it out when you need a good laugh.... Merry Christmas…and Happy Holidays to all!

[WOW! ANOTHER good review of the DUFUs from DUmmie femme.democratique. Okay, I shall also absolve you of your Political Sins on New Years Day as well for giving me good PR in DUmmieland.


Hey - Freepers... Google Ramsey Clark... see what you get.

[“Leftwing Liberal Lunatic.”]


Oh, and mods here should check this out:


“You don't have to go anywhere to find them -- they're all over DU just now. And some of ‘them’ might even be DUmmie moderators. Hee! Hee!”

[This is an OUTRAGE!!! Yes, in my role as DUmmie Moderator I shall certainly try to uncover that Freeper imposter…. Hee! Hee!]




I'm no lawyer but after the Supreme Court ruled to stop the Florida count in December of 2000, I've developed a good sense for election law maneuvers. Kerry has been preparing to do this for a year! It's just that now, over the holiday weekend, we see some the evidence on which that strategy is based.

[What a genius that Kerry is! He waits until a couple of weeks AFTER the Electoral College declares Bush to be a winner and then maneuvers to make his deconcession announcement during the one holiday week when interest in politics is at the lowest point of the year. His timing is IMPECCABLE!!!]


Kerry is set to unconcede by deed on Monday…


[It’s an “unconcedeed!”]


I'm trying not to over-expect here, but firmly feel since he IS back in the game...since he IS 'playing'...he IS 'playing to win.'

[YOO! HOO! Charlie Brown! Time for you to kick the football Lucy is holding. Don’t worry. She won’t pull it away from you this time. You can believe her promise.]


If Kerry does this and follows through, I'll never ask for anything for Christmas hereafter.

[The Great Pumpkin WILL appear tonight!]


Can you imagine our history books and what they'd look like if they contested and we overturned this thing and took our democracy back???

[They would look like Grimm’s Fairy Tales.]


they will probably make a book out of the DU logs.


[ABSOLUTELY! And it will be called the “DUmmie FUnnies.”


So you don't think that it is merely an effort by Kerry to get involved enough to quell the criticism he is getting from people like Jackson (just playing the devil's advocate)

[Somewhere deep in the DUmmieland Swamp a small light bulb begins to cast a dim glow over the tiny head of a DUmmie.]


this thread is looking like DU on Nov 2 at 530pm until everything turned into shit a couple of hours later.
Will you people ever learn to celebrate and gloat ONLY when it's time?Don't get so jumpy about everything these bloggers throw at you, geez.

[Go ahead. Celebrate and gloat now. It only makes your later threads of angry disappointment even more hilarious.]


Your thoughts? Am I on to something or am I full of shit?

[The latter.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-24-04 ("From the freepers regarding Will Pitt Post...")

Once again we have a situation of Watching DUmmies Watching Us Watching DUmmies. This time it has to do with them watching us watching their posts on a 12-22 thread about a “revelation” from lead DUmmie Moonbat, William Rivers Pitt, announcing that Kerry would jump into the vote fraud game the following day to challenge the Ohio vote. After much jubilation and wing fluttering from the lesser Moonbats over in DUmmieland, exactly NOTHING happened. Now that the DUmmies have egg all over their face they are whining about the Freepers laughing at them in this THREAD titled, “From the freepers regarding Will Pitt Post...” Since this thread from the Freepers that they are referencing commenced before my own DUFU thread on the same topic last evening, their comments are about the other Freeper thread. The whining of the DUmmies is in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, looking in on his DUmmie Ant Farm, is in the [brackets]:

It is so very hard for me not to get into the threads and start bashing! Fragile,,,, let them try this fragile DUmmy !!!!

[No problem. By featuring you in the DUmmie FUnnies we can easily shatter your fragile ego by laughing at your pretentious self-important foibles.]


I am curious to see what they are saying about K/E potentially jumping into the fray.

[I see that this DUmmie post was made on Thursday morning. Soooo Dummie…..care to tell us all about K/E “jumping into the fray.” The news media was so silent about this “momentous event” that I missed it entirely.]


I Love Seeing Their Eyes Widen when they realise the gigs up.

[Right now my eyes are squeezed shut to keep all the tears of laughter at your momentous non-event from staining my shirt.]


They are saying horrible things about WillPitt. He should wear it as a badge of honor. What a bunch of freaks they are.

[Yes, Will Pitt should wear his Moonbat label as a badge of honor. Pitt’s Moonbat post about a complete NON-EVENT sent DUmmieland into spasms of joy over something that NEVER HAPPENED.]


Not only are they annoying, but they sure know how to type stupid stuff as fast as their narrow minds can go.

[Typing stupid stuff like phony Shakespeare quotes about patriotism that was cited by numerous DUmmies as well as Barbra Streisand?]


. apparently the validity of WP's PREVIOUS statements have escaped them.

[Validity of Moonbat Pitt’s pitiful posts like the one he made on Wednesday about an event that was sure to happen on Thursday and by Friday STILL hasn’t happened?]


We need an emoticon with pink liquid for Kool Aid...don't you think?

[A better emoticon would be the Great Pumpkin of unrealized dreams laughing at you. Moonbat Pitt, your Linus, promised that the great Pumpkin would arrive yesterday for sure. How much longer before you realize your Great Pumpkin will never arrive?]


Doesn't surprise me. I would put the "Dummies" at DU up against those ignorant and very very sad people any day of the week. A war of the minds would much be welcome. They never post any facts. They never look into the credibility of anything they decide to negatively rant about.

[Like the credibility of the claim by Moonbat Pitt that the Great Pumpkin Kerry would come to your rescue in Ohio yesterday? Next you will be seeing images of Kerry’s face on Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwiches.]

The GOP and its faithful minions have been stinking of fear since election day, and no place has had a fouler stench than Freeper Land. I hate to visit the Free Republic message board, because I feel sorry for them. They are like a bunch of little kids trying to convince themselves that they are not afraid of the boogeyman, but you know that they are so wound up, the minute someone goes "boo!" they are going to jump out of their skins.
This is no coincidence. The way that the far right motivates it rank and file is through fear, the same way Hitler and Goebels motivated their followers. They attract all the poor little former battered kids who were never loved for themselves and tell them "It is all (blanks) fault you are so miserable". Meanwhile, all us liberal types are having such a good time just being ourselves, it drives them crazy with rage and envy.


[The only thing I fear is the DUmmies ceasing to swallow the Moonbat theories promulgated by Pitt and his cohorts. If that were to happen, I would run low on comedy material for the DUmmie FUnnies.]


William Pitt is a very good source, just waiting to see what happens

[And waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and…..]


What really pisses me off is how you get that "deer in the headlights" look when the rest of us are trying desperately to educate you.


[Yeah, educate us again about the impeccable timing of John Kerry, 10 days after the Electoral College vote, interceding in Ohio. When was that supposed to happen for sure? Oh, yesterday! Gee! I must have missed all the massive news accounts about that.]


Blissfully ignorant, I'd say since they don't realize that there are these pesky little things called ELECTION LAWS - and if the Repukes in Ohio broke those laws, then there ARE consequences!

[Consequences like us laughing at you looking for non-existent vote fraud to the tune of over 100,000 votes. Better pray to that Kerry face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich. Maybe the face can conjure up a change in the Ohio outcome. As for the REAL Kerry, mostly likely he is snow boarding in Aspen right now not knowing what the hell Moonbat Pitt was talking about a couple of days ago.]


You don't have to go anywhere to find them -- they're all over DU just now

[And some of “them” might even be DUmmie moderators. Hee! Hee!]


Kerry Won - Get Over It!!

[BWAHAHAHAHAHA! And here is the Suicide Hotline number for you to call on Jan. 20: 1-800-BUSH-WON.]




I think we should write a book: "The DemocraticUnderground.com Guide To The Conservative Mind" with all of the f*cked up shit they spew. Of course, woven together with rapier-sharp wit...and all the profits would go towards the Bush Impeachment Fund...

[If you want a book with TRUE rapier wit, then I would recommend the DUmmie FUnnies with the CD-ROM insert.]


You are living in a bad Twilight Zone episode.
Someday you will rue what you say about
William Pitt. He is your modern day Patrick Henry.

[As we’ve seen this week, Moonbat Pitt is more like a cross between the Pied Piper leading all you DUmmie lemmings over the cliff of reality and Linus, the believer in the Great Pumpkin of fictitious vote fraud.]


So let's put our foil hats on and ignore them. Shall we?

[Sure. Put on your tinfoil hats.]




won't we be surprised when they're right. It is all a hoax and we are full of crap.

[Your post was made at 8:50 PM last night on the day Kerry was supposed to electrify the vote fraud movement and you still haven’t figured out you were full of crap?]


Freepers very worried about vote-rigging



[True. We are very very worried you DUmmies will give up on your vote rigging fantasies. It would dry up a HUGE source for laughter…. Thus ends this Dummie thread where the topic of Kerry coming to their rescue in Ohio FOR SURE is delicately avoided since the only thing that happened was a sighting of a Kerry Face on a Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich in Dayton.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-23-04 (Charlie Brown DUmmies)

Anybody familiar with the Peanuts comics strip knows there is a yearly ritual involving Charlie Brown and Lucy. Lucy holds a football and promises the somewhat skeptical Charlie Brown that she won’t pull the football away at the last moment. Despite his skepticism, Charlie Brown manages to overcome his doubts every year and attempts to kick the football, which is ALWAYS pulled away at the last moment by Lucy, leaving poor Charlie to go flying into the air when his foot fails to make contact with the ball. Likewise the DUmmies are afflicted with this same Charlie Brown syndrome which has been in force since the election. The Vote Fraud football has been presented on numerous occasions to the DUmmies and they never fail to attempt to kick it, only to have it removed by Lucy in the form of Fate at the last moment. Over and over again the same football is presented to the Charlie Brown Dummies and no matter how often it is pulled away the DUmmies ALWAYS attempt to kick it again with much less skepticism that Charlie Brown ever showed. So once again, as we can see in this DUmmie THREAD titled, “KERRY TO ENTER OHIO RECOUNT FRAY,” the football is again presented to them, and despite the past history of yanking the ball away, they are only too eager to attempt another kick. And the person holding the football this time is none other than the infamous William Pitt, who has somehow divined that Kerry will somehow overturn the election despite it being 10 days since the Electoral College handed the victory to Bush. What has led Pitt to this conclusion about Kerry entering the fray is a mystery since Kerry has given no clear signals of what he plans. Perhaps Pitt noticed that Kerry scratched his ass with 3 fingers instead of the usual 4 that has given him such optimism. In any event, the perpetually missing Kerry has become the Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich. Blind faith without a shred of evidence has led the Democrats to believe that the elusive Face on the Grilled Cheese Sandwich somehow has the power to overturn the election after it has been officially declared OVER. The only difference between the Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich and the visage of the Virgin Mary on a Grilled Cheese Sandwich sold on eBay is that the latter has a much greater chance of performing a miracle than Kerry does of changing the election result. And for the services rendered by William Pitt for producing yet another outbreak of Charlie Brown Syndrome in DUmmieland, I present him with the DUmmie of the Week Award. So let us now watch the Charlie Brown DUmmies in action. The comments of the credulous DUmmies flying into the air due to missing the football are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, watching from the sidelines, is in the [brackets]:

Kerry to Enter Ohio Recount Fray

By William Rivers Pitt

t r u t h o u t | Report


Thursday 23 December 2004

2004 Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry will file today, in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Ohio, papers in support of the Green Party/Libertarian Party recount effort. Specifically, Kerry will be filing a request for expedited discovery regarding Triad Systems voting machines, as well as a motion for a preservation order to protect any and all discovery and preserve any evidence on this matter.

Triad Systems has come under scrutiny recently after Sherole Eaton, deputy director of elections for Hocking County, swore out an affidavit in which she described her witnessing the tampering of electronic voting equipment by a Triad representative. Rep. John Conyers, the ranking minority member of the House Judiciary Committee, has requested an investigation into this matter by the FBI and the Hocking County prosecutor.

Truthout will have more on this specific Triad allegation later in the day.

Previously, the Green Party and Libertarian Party has not fared well in their efforts to get emergency orders regarding this matter in Ohio. In order to pass muster with a judge, the individual or group requesting an emergency order for such a recount must show both irreperable harm as well as a substantial chance for success on the merits. While Green and Libertarian representatives have been able to show irreperable harm, they could not establish a substantial chance for success on the merits, because no recount would deliver Ohio to either party.

Kerry's entry into this recount effort changes the math on this matter dramatically. He can likewise show irreperable harm, and unlike the Green and Libertarian candidates, he can also prove a substantial chance for success on the merits because he lost the Ohio vote by a statistical whisker.


[Oh! Oh! OHHHH!!!! I’m already having massive urinations of happiness in my pants at this news! Let me at that vote fraud football, Lucy!]


I am a lawyer and have been for 27 years. I look at the situation just like I would if I were appealing a case. In law, there is something called the "harmless error" rule. It is what every lawyer fears who is appealing a case. It assumes there is no such thing as a perfect trial. It essentially says that in order to win on appeal, you must be able to convince the appellate court that there is a really good reason to believe that mistakes or errors made by the judge or jury likely caused the rendition of an improper verdict or decision.

Using this analogy to the present voting situation, if we are to convince the public at large that voting mistakes, error,and/or fraud caused Kerry to lose the election he actually won, we must have a clear and convincing consensus by the mathematical, statistical and scientific communities that such is the case. We simply do not have that now. We face the electoral equivalent of the "harmless error" rule.

But we can quickly fix this problem. I believe such a consensus is possible. How? By re-exit polling Ohio now. I am told by your nemises on Mystery Pollster that it would take the polling of about 16,000 voters in Ohio to achieve the requisite accuracy; such a poll would be so accurate that most scientists, statisticians, and mathematicians could not reasonably disagree with the results. They also believe that such a poll is not that unbearably expensive. I propose using three organizations to do one third of the polling each -- Zogby, Harris, and Gallup -- and have the results of the poll made public immediately.


[Re-Exit polls. It sounds SOOOOO scientific and, of course, supercedes ACTUAL votes. Let me at that Re-Exit Poll Football!!!]


Kerry has gathered the evidence, and he's ready to fight...that's my opinion.

[HALLELUJAH! We have SEEEEEEEN the Kerry Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich and it will work the MIRACLE of overturning the election for us!!!]




Forgive my ignorance, but does this mean that Kerry will be THE SENATOR to back up Conyers and the Black Caucus this time?
Pretty please, this is all I want for Christmas!!!

[Take a good solid bite out of that Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich with Kerry’s Face on it!]


Come one Kerry!!! We NEEEEED to see you!!

[Let me concentrate real hard on that Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich. I BEEEEELEEEEVE I see the Face of John Kerry on it. I BEEEELEEEEVE!!!]


OK, gang, you KNOW Kerry is going in because he has the evidence. It might be a very fun holiday season.


[WOO! HOO! It’s a done deal! Kerry has the evidence so he WILL be inaugurated this January. I BEEEEELEEEEEVE I can FINALLY kick that football!]


As cynical and depressed as I have been, I am still very heartened and happy to hear this news! Thanks, Will!

[“Don’t be cynical, Charlie Brown. This time the football WON’T be pulled away!”---Lucy.]


Significant development I wonder if the mainstream slugs will even mention this today?

[So far no but I BEEEELEEEEVE that the Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich can still pull off the miracle of overturning the election.]




But what is the point of a recount... there's not enough time to get it done before Jan 6?

[I too am becoming skeptical of this. Is that REALLY Kerry’s face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich? The more I look at it, the more it appears to be Seabiscuit.]




I don't think this news is anything more than hype.
If Kerry really wanted to win - he would have been in OH earlier. Remember how hard Gore faught? I'm so disappointed! I'm cancelling my reservations for Washington, DC for the Inauguration.
It's gonna be Bush, again.

[And so a Dummie Charlie Brown foot goes flying into the air after missing the football.]


I won't give him anything for waiting while others found the proof. But I'll give him credit for finally stepping up to the plate and taking the reins when we could lose it all if he didn't. Can you tell us where John Edwards is in this? Perhaps he'll work on the legal team? I can't imagine a better place for him as he concludes his term in the Senate.

[Edwards will be the Robin to Kerry’s Batman. And no one can handle a beauty compact better than Edwards.]


does this mean he un-concedes? and is that a real word?

[The correct word is “deconcedes. But in order to do that, Kerry must spend a few hours in the Deconcession Chamber.]


It's the holidays and this is great news. After all, if we really wanted to contest the election results, it would be worthless without Kerry's support and cooperation. Thank you, John Kerry! Again!

[Bless you, John Kerry! I will light a candle in your honor the next time I worship at your Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich Shrine.]


Sorry But I'm a realist. Bush will not be vacating the white house. Either it will be like last time and everybody will just bend over and take it or else there're will be massive civil unrest possibly leading to civil war and America will be changed forever. Happy holidays!

[Prepare the Vaseline!]


I gave gladly (at an amount well below yours, I'm sure) and contributed even more time. Nevertheless, I've wondered about Kerry's remaining $15 million. Now I know that it's for the challenges in Columbus, Olympia, Tallahassee and Washington.




[We already know that none of it is going into paying his campaign staff so he still has oodles of cash to spend.]


I do believe in Kerry, I do believe in Kerry, I do, I do, I do belive in Kerry!

[I sure hope you don’t get hurt flying into the air after Lucy pulls the football away.]


OK, who will post this at Freeperland so they can have a shitty XMAS!!

[Don’t worry. PJ-Comix is already doing this so we can have a lot of LAUGHS for “XMAS.”]


Oh, I imagine one of their lurkers here is already on it....so they can carp and whine about us 'libruls' trying to steal an election.

[YUP! We’re already on it because it is FUN to watch the Charlie Brown DUmmies go flying into the air YET AGAIN.]


I agree-he needs to un-concede and get his face out there.

[At least he got his Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich…or is that really the face of Seabiscuit?]


Finally, Kerry is stepping up to the plate, I hope it means a grand slam is on the way for us all, Democracy has yet a chance to live in our country. I do not care if it is screaming, kicking, yelling, etc. We need him to bring the real strength to this battle. He is the candidate we voted for and let us now back up those votes with support of him in our shared fight for every vote to count in a TRUE Democracy which we desire above all things. Thank you Will for playing Santa Claus this year, we truly just love you.

[The only grand slam will be your ass hitting the ground after flying through the air when Lucy pulls away that Vote Fraud Football...AGAIN!]


Thank you Will--I can now finally step away from the computer for a few moments, shower, make coffee and start my day with a more hopeful outlook than yesterday....


[After Lucy pulls the football away, you’re going to hit the ground HARD. Very hard.]


He just put on his helmet and came off the bench! GAME ON!

[GAME ON! Just run up to the football that Lucy is holding and KICK IT! Hee! Hee!]


I was so hoping this would happen. IMHO, the Kerry camp's timing has been nothing short of brilliant. By stepping in now instead of weeks ago, Kerry has preemptively neutralized the accusation that he's only doing this to overturn the election.

[What a BRILLIANT genius Kerry is. His timing is impeccable. He waited until 10 days after the Electoral College voted Bush in again as president. And I bet Kerry would have jumped into a lifeboat on the Titanic two hours after he sank with it.]


i didnt see anything come of the last time he used harsh word in document. why should i get excited now. we will see if this does anything, i can only go off the past and what will be. not seeing anyone hopping all over it.

[You are correct. Not ONE WORD about this in the press today. And AGAIN Lucy pulls the football away.]


Someone help me out here. Arnebeck doesn't represent either the Greens or the Libertarians. David Cobb, Green party filed a suit in the Federal Court? What action is Kerry joining? Does anyone know?

[Yes. Kerry is joining other snow boarders on the slopes of Aspen. Isn’t that TERRIFIC NEWS?]


Now to get the word out to the resident freepers on another forum where I am a regular. I'll post a link to your article.

[And don’t forget to post a link to the latest DUmmie FUnnies.]


Not a peep from MSM, as far as i can see.

[Your post was made at 1:00 PM today. And guess what, nearly 6 hours later and STILL not a peep about this in the news.]


It may be part of the plan when you release something on Dec. 23rd, when a lot of reporters are going on break, and putting the second-string people in charge--you aren't neccessarily looking for maximum coverage. It's like a Friday night "dump".

[Yes, it is all part of the plan for the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT to be totally ignored. And the plan is working beautifully!!!]


It's not unreasonable that the media will no publish on this news of Kerry's filing until he actually does it. That may not happen today.

[And it may not happen on Jan. 20.}


I haven't seen anyone else comment on ..This being filed in U.S. District Court. Isn't that a Federal Court which will bypass all the crap with the OSC? That also means that the Judge has U.S. Marshals at his disposal to oversee the materials to be locked down or take other actions including conducting a hand recount, canvassing registered voters to find those that had to leave, etc. I'd sure like to see the filing.


[Stare hard at the Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich and perhaps you can envision the reality of it being done.]


this can't be good, the court is closed today due to bad weather can they still file even thought the court is closed?
from the site: Due to continued inclement weather conditions, all Courthouses of the U.S. District Court, Southern District of Ohio will be closed on Thursday, December 23rd, 2004.

[The good news is that you will be landing on nice soft snow after Lucy pulls the football away.]


Kerry is saying he believes he can prove that he had a chance to win Ohio. He believes he can prove, substantially, that he had a chance! When he conceded he stated that the votes just weren't there. I see this as a complete turnaround! "Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" or something like that. Yipeeeee!

[Methinks you’ve been staring a wee bit too long at the Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich. It’s one thing to merely look at it but when you can also hear it speaking, you’re in big trouble. And now another comment from DUmmie of the Week, William Pitt…]


I still think it is a long slog and a long shot
but less so than it was two weeks ago.

[Less so than before the Electoral College declared Bush to be the winner? I pity Pitt. He needs to drop better acid in the future.]


the last paragraph is what worries me. Kerry is entering this because of letters and phone calls? Not because he has HARD evidence? Plus, he's not entering this 'completely'? Sorry, this is still NOTHING.

[BINGO!!! And this is why you see DUmmie after DUmmie flying through the air as Lucy keeps pulling that football away.]




A case Ohio revote activist says a Berkeley organizer for the voting rights group is on a conference call with DC right now and he says that KERRY has not joined the recount and that whatever we have heard is bulls##t.

[They Fly through the Air,

Heading for a Great Fall,

The DUmb Dumb DUmmies,

Missing Lucy’s Football.]


Kerry may well have not done shit unless pushed? Sorry, but this is all window dressing and bullshit. Flame me as a downer if you wish, but that's how this all reads to me. Just another tidbit being thrown to the deluded left who had thought they had a fighter working for them. I admit ... I thought so, too. Chimpus Khan will be crowned Grand High Mucky Muck of the World on Jan 20 and we'll still be out here with our collective finger in our collective ass.

[All HAIL our GLORIOUS EMPEROR CHIMPUS KHAN, the Grand High Mucky Muck of the World!!!]


There are going to be some people falling very hard on January 6th and 20th. Delude yourself into thinking this is some "BIG DEAL," but I'm here to tell you that this message is DOA -- dead on arrival.

[Yes, it is a very had fall after flying through the air whenever Lucy pulls the football away.]


Where in the world did you find out about this so-called "real evidence of fraud"? Because I have not come across anything that is indicative that Kerry has found any thing that would be considered what you call "real evidence of fraud." You say you have to believe that John Kerry knows a heck of a lot more than us and that he's a fighter. Fine. But I will not hesitate in reminding you of a very ugly adage. People readily believe what they wish to be true. Believe all you want about Kerry and this being only the beginning. Believe that silence is breaking. Nonetheless, know that as long as the vast majority of people who would be supportive of our efforts remain in the dark because of media blackout this cause is going nowhere fast. The silence is NOT breaking -- it is just getting more noisy.

[Hold on! I am staring very very hard at the Face on the Democrat Grilled Cheese Sandwich and it is telling me he will be working relentlesly to overturn the election results. I believe this is what the Face told me. I BEEEEELEEEEEVE!!!]


You are not going to lose this election. I repeat, you are not going to lose this election. The washington redskin's game predicted it. Washington made a game leading touchdown with just about 1 min left in the game. Dumbya won the election with just a month left before inauguration. But Washington had the touchdown brought back due to a penalty. Dumbya will get the election results disqualify ed due to fraud in Ohio. Green Bay went on to win the game. John Kerry will go on to win the election.

[I think you have a SOLID court case here. The election results MUST be overturned because Green Bay won against the Redskins.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-22-04 PM Edition ("Anger is a positive force")

The DUmmies now are admitting a character flaw---they are not ANGRY enough. Yes, even though examples of out of control DUmmie rage has been catalogued in edition after edition of the DUmmie FUnnies, the DUmmies have now concluded that they need to be EVEN MORE angry as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD titled, “Anger is a positive force.” Of course the DUmmies project their own “lack” of ANGER onto the NASTY Republicans whom they claim possess it in great quantity, which accounts for their success at the polls. So listen up, DUmmies: Blow, winds, and crack your cheeks! rage! blow! We are about to catalogue in this edition of the DUFUs, how your “discovery” of the need for ANGER. As usual, the ANGRY DUmmie comments are in Bolshevik red while the observations of your humble correspondent, filing his reports from the Dr. Buddy Rydell Center for Anger Management, are in the [brackets]:

Why are so many people against the use of anger? Anger is a positive force

[In the case of you DUmmies it has proven to be a counter-productive force.]


The Republicans whipped up the anger in their base and won control over all three branches of government. Why are we supposed to be 'accepting, reasonable and reaching out" to the other side? Why are we supposed to unite with them?

[Trust me. NO normal person wants to unite with DUmmies.]


Angry talk show hosts have much more influence than reasonable soft voices. It was the angry progressives that raised the bulk of the Democratic Party's money this year. If we had used their anger , we wouldn't be talking about recounts! I have been told That my anger is "bad" I should be more tolerant. Look who is winning! I think the problem is not that there is too much anger but too little. We should really get angry and not give these people any quarter. They wouldn't , and won't "reach out to, or build a consensus with us. The Republicans view elections as war with an enemy to be vanquished. We view elections as a "debate". Even now,the DNC is talking about "re framing the "debate" ! As though that would work in the face of war! Someone ,please tell me, what is wrong with anger? And why are the Repugs able to use it successfully and we aren't?

[Maybe because the “Repugs” don’t use anger since it sure hasn’t worked for you “reasonable soft” DUmmies.]


We have to be careful not to mimic the republicans everything goes out of vogue after a while. The angry act that the republicans are putting on (and it is an act), while successful so far will eventually get on more peoples nerves then it appeals to now.

[BINGO! You discovered why the voters rejected the DUmmies and their cohorts. ANGER. You wanna see a big example of anger? Then just look to Al “HE BETRAYED US” Gore.]


Trust me--I'm mad as hell!

[I believe you! I believe you!]


Anger is a motivator, but can be used for good or evil. It is wisdom that controls anger and directs it. Without wisdom, anger merely lashes out, and is a destructive force.

[Which is why you DUmmies are self-destructing.]


Exactly, Anger can be power, if you know how to use it. If you don't know how to use it, it can be really destructive. Often, it just plays into the hands of the other side.

[YESSS! Exactly!]


well, then the republicans must use it really well because it certainly didn't play into our hands! Why can't we use it as competently as they do?

[Because as previously pointed out by another DUmmie, you lack wisdom. All you’re left with is BLIND RAGE!!!]




It is the duty of the leadership to channel the anger in that direction and not dilute it into useless acceptance.

[Hillary seems to be very good at channeling anger…..when not channeling Eleanor Roosevelt.]


I'm German and I wouldn't know.

[ACHTUNG!!! You vill NOT be ANGRY! Dat is an ORDER!!!]


Bingo! You get everyone else angry with you. You keep them angry . and you win. Winning is fun! And BTW so can anger be. Don't you think it is fun to bash Bush?

Bingo! You make everybody else as ANGRY and NUTTY as you are. Then you form take that angry mob and have fun bashing Bush. Hey, who said anger wasn’t a positive force?]



People who don't feel strongly enough to speak passionately and sometimes angrily might not ever have much of an audience.

[It sure worked for Al Gore. He has developed quite a big comedy audience with his “HE BETRAYED US!!!” shriekings.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-22-04 ("...Bev Harris, Woman of the Year..")

The FULL title of today’s featured DUmmie THREAD is actually a very skeptical, “You want a laugh? Read this hagiography of Bev Harris, Woman of the Year..” So even some of the DUmmies have begun to wake up to the con artistry of Bev Harris. They must be feeling like that store owner in The Flim Flam Man who ended up stuck paying top dollar for rot gut moonshine after sampling the grade A whiskey given to him by the George C. Scott character. And the rot gut whiskey that Bev Harris sold the DUmmies came in the form of making them believe she was ardently looking for vote fraud when, in fact, the only money she “committed” was a little over $19,000 out of a total of $300,000 she raked in (according to David Allen who used to work with her, closer to a cool million bucks) but even that paltry amount Bev hasn’t even spent yet. Instead Bev is claiming to spend the vast part of her DUmmie Scam Fortune on “infrastructure” which, translated, means luxuriating in 5 star hotel penthouse suites. But let us now read the DUmmie attacks on poor Bev who made them all look like the DUmb suckers that they are. The DUmmie attacks on Bev Harris are in Bolshevik Red and the commentary of your humble correspondent sitting in the lobby of Bev’s 5 star hotel is in the [brackets]:

You want a laugh? Read this hagiography of Bev Harris, Woman of the Year..according to TVNewsLies. There is no author cited, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Bev herself wrote this little piece of puff. I really don't know whether to laugh or to feel pity.



[How about crying over all that money you and your fellow DUmmies wasted by sending to Bev? Anyway, thanx for the heads up on the adulatory TVNewsLies “Woman of the Year” article over at BELLACIO.ORG. You can read the article below but, I warn you, it is so full of adoring saccharine praise of Bev Harris, that you are likely to get tooth decay after a couple of paragraphs.]


”At the bottom of all the tributes paid to democracy is the little man, walking into the little booth, with a little pencil, making a little cross on a little bit of paper. . . . Author: Gilbert Keith Chesterton.


“If nothing else, Bev Harris represents the great divide that is America. In most of cyberspace, she’s a household word. In much of the real world, she’s largely unknown. In the blue states, Bev Harris is a standard bearer, a pioneer, and a patriot. In the red states, many who know her believe that Bev Harris is a conspiracy nut, a rabble rouser, and an agitator.”


[Actually in the red and the blue states and in cyberspace, Bev Harris is now known as a con artist. However, don’t worry. Bev Harris will soon be known to the real world thanx to Court TV.]


“ In fact, Bev Harris is far more than the poster woman for a polarized nation. Rather, she is a symbol of perseverance and commitment to democracy in a time of doubt and suspicion. She is a model of unyielding focus and determination in a time of uncertainty and disillusion. And she is an inspiring example of how one person - just one single person - can make a real difference.”


[YUP! Bev Harris is the poster woman for con artistry. She went from being an unknown hausfrau to becoming a well-known con artist luxuriating in 5 star hotel suites thanx to all the dinero she suckered out of the DUmmies.]


“It is for her ceaseless, non-partisan efforts to uncover and expose the flaws and fraud connected to electronic voting machines that TvNewsLIES.org has chosen Bev Harris as our 2004 Person of the Year!”


[Only Person of the Year? I say we enshrine her as St. Bev the Con Artist for the way she ceaselessly works to uncover vote fraud in Ohio from an expensive Florida hotel suite.]


“For nearly two years, Bev Harris has been a one-woman whirlwind, trying to draw attention to the pitfalls of the computerized election process that promises to become standard in much of the nation. Her relentless crusade hoisted red flags about missing paper trails and questionable security standards for the machines. Her tireless investigations raised equally significant questions about the integrity of Diebold, ES&S, and Sequoia - the three major manufacturers of the electronic machines.”


[Bev Harris has certainly been a one-woman whirlwind in the fund raising department. And how much money has that woman actually spent to uncover vote fraud? $19,000. Oops! That is only "committed” money so she didn’t even spend that paltry amount.]


“Because of her important work, Bev Harris’ web site, Blackbox.org, has become the quintessential election watchdog on the Internet. Much in the same way, her book, Black Box Voting, has kept the problems of electronic voting in the public conscience and has laid the groundwork for the kind of surveillance and oversight that will determine the accuracy of future elections. How fortunate for us all that Bev Harris chose to champion our rights as Americans, and that Bev Harris refused to back down against torrents of criticism and harassment along the way.”


[This sugary Ode to Bev Harris, most likely written by Bev Harris, is already causing me a severe case of tooth decay.]


“Bev Harris’ work is not over simply because the election is over. She continues to use her PR skills and experience to convince Americans that their votes must be protected from machine defects or political corruption. We thank her for her dedication to a cause so vital to the preservation of our democracy, and for staying the course where others might wearily have abandoned it. And we thank Bev Harris for bringing electronic voting issues to the forefront, and for reminding us that our right to vote is precious and must exist without compromise.”


[True. Bev Harris’ work is not over. There are still a lot more gullible DUmmies to scam.]


“In these distressing times, when the fragility of our rights as Americans hangs by a tenuous thread, we are comforted by knowing that Bev Harris is out there fighting for what is right and never giving an inch to her detractors.

“As this eventful year draws to an end, TvNewsLIES.org would like to thank Bev Harris of Blackbox.org, on behalf of so many who admire and appreciate her activism. We are proud to name this extraordinary woman our 2004 Person of the Year!”


[Pass me a hankie! This blind tribute to Bev is bringing tears to my eyes. I would like to thank the author (most likely Bev Herself) for letting us know what a WUUUUNDERFUL person Bev is. And now for the somewhat skeptical DUmmie commentary on this article…]



The HAG should be called HACK OF THE YEAR. She really screwed it up! Took all that money and did NUTHIN!



[Wrong! She worked very hard to scam that money from you DUmmies and she is doing a lot. Bev is very busy in her luxury hotel suite getting full body massages and receiving other room service amenities.]



can someone give me the gist of what is going on with Bev? I confess to being out of the loop



[Simple. Bev saw what a gullible group the DUmmies are and figured that they were EASY marks for a scam.]



I am curious too..all of a sudden she is public enemy number #1. I guess I missed something...



[….a large portion of your wallet is what you missed.]



Skittles, the latest is that...on the Qui Tam lawsuit she filed in California, she is not going to take it to discovery, but is going to keep the award--according to Tom March. She threatened to sue DU. She has trumpeted that GWBush is a customer of hers, having had HER book overnighted to him. She fired Andy Stephenson and scapegoated him for her eratic behavior. Because of her, Keith Olbermann won't touch BBV anymore. Randi Rhodes is pissed at her, too, and sad that she helped fundraise for her. And more, so much more, but perhaps Plan9Pub (David Allen) or some of the other people who have directly intereacted with Bev and have kept a closer watch on all of this can give you more detail. In the words of many people who contributed to BBV, and then realized what a monster Bev is, "We've been had."



[BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I can already see the working title for the documentary that Bev is NOT making: The Flim Flam Woman.]



but I never knew the early gist, let alone the latest. how did it all get started? I find it insidious that THE name in voting fraud is being trashed - are we SURE it's all legit, it's not hearesay, no SET UP involved? I'm asking because I really don't know.



[Correct. You really are clueless.]



I think everyone has been clear to say that they...continue to support the cause of exposing election fraud, but that Bev is not the person to lead the charge. She has alienated far more people than she has attracted to the movement, and many of those whom she has alienated are people who would have been pivotal to exposing the fraud.

She's produced NOTHING that she has promised.

Everything I posted in the thread above is legit...most of it is straight from the horses' mouths. The Bush thing--she posted that on her own messageboard--and she admonished her supporters for talking ill of freepers, whom, according to her, have helped her all along with her efforts.

If I were to postulate the most outrageous conspiracy theory, I would say that if there is a set-up, it's that Bev mysteriously entered and proclaimed herself the BBV messiah, and then derailed most every effort that should have easily been fruitful.



[Perhaps the BBV Messiah is really a rightwing agent from A Perfect Rovian Storm?]


i did see some of the threatening posts ( for using the term cle*n up crew, which she has trademarked or something) and reread them and it sounded to me like she was threatening litigation, she does mention contacting lawyers if they didn't desist. bev says she never threatened to sue. while she didn't use the word sue, i have to say her version of events were more than a glossing over. from the few posts i saw, she is an angry woman who swears the countdown people are lying, she claims to be very cooperative, but it seems like she's one the wrong side of a lot of he said she said skirmishes, and at the very least, she has become her own PR nightmare.


[Don’t forget “BBV.” Bev will sue you for all you’re worth merely for typing the letters “BBV” on your keyboard.]


she has had some real pr problems also. she says she has incriminating video, but won't share it with the media. the speculation is she wants to put it out on dvd for $$. also , countdown on msnbc tried to get her to appear on their show, she claims they haven't. but olberman claims they tried and she was very difficult and abusive even to his staff. a lot of people say she is a grandstander and some say she tells talles. everybody agrees, she should not be doing p.r though, and that she's hot headed. a lot of people have started to ask what sh'e been doing with the money she received.


[If you want to know what Bev is doing with the money she conned from the DUmmies, just come down to Florida and check out the room receipts of several 5 star hotels. But now let us look at just one snippet from a long list of complaints from a former BBV volunteer…]


“After posting research for BBV off and on for two years and working 18-20 hours a day at election time, I was finally allowed the opportunity 3 times that night during phone calls to be yelled at non-stop for matters unrelated to any BBV volunteer (that I'm aware of) except for a minute dwelling on the newly created unauthorized email address. (the reason why was apparently unimportant) Specifically, Bev repeatedly referred to DU as stealing BBV members and that was 'just not going to happen'. During that conversation, my pointing out that at least hundreds (based on the explosion of membership) of people were not being responded to and they were rightfully displeased about being misled by her claims to be leading, was somehow stretched by Bev to be the work of 'infiltrators' (she termed 'the usual suspects') at BBV and DU.”



[Sucker. You worked like a slave for Bev only to be paid back by being yelled at by the “BBV Messiah” raving maniac. Interesting that Bev was so paranoid about the DUmmies stealing BBV members. Most likely because she saw it as a diverting the money flow from her Vote Fraud scam. Oh, and thank you for this insider info. I think we can soon expect to hear it repeated on Court TV. Oh, and let us read another JUICY snippet from this former Bev volunteer…]


I was also taken aback throughout those 3 phone calls, which averaged 15-20 minutes each, by Bev's focus on blaming others for every single thing that didn't go as she thought it should. I recall feeling less like a real person listening to Bev on the phone, than a garbage dump with an ear.


[I like that phrase: “Garbage Dump With An Ear.” It almost rivals another favorite of mine: “A Perfect Rovian Storm.”]


Just to throw my own two cents in, I think it's fairly clear that Bev Harris is a John Wayne type, so obsessed with her own cause (which in her mind is conflated with herself) that she is willing to abuse anyone she sees as standing in the way..that includes anyone who exists around her in times of stress because they threaten her individuality, and even if they don't, abuse can sharpen one's disconnection from other people, and thus their identity. I know this is all pretty obvious but I think it's essential to put that at the forefront at this time..just remember that all of the INFORMATION on BBV you can still go on, and that the work Bev is doing continues to be extremely important.



[SHEESH! Bev Harris is openly exposed as a fraud and you end up crawling back to her scam like a DUmb lapdog begging to be scammed ONCE AGAIN. No wonder Bev found DUmmieland such fertile ground to pull off her con.]



That's some hilarious....shit, alright - and full of bogus adulation for one whom has earned nothing but scorn from decent, discerning people, stem-to-stern. But I hope you have your asbestos suit on; the flames from the Bev-bot's will be a' coming, forthwith. They're like Orwell's famed animals, and they all chant one silly, reductive chorus (if I may paraphrase a part of his renowned work): Bev good!; Bev better!



[Bev con! Bev scam!]



The Bev Borgs have no effect on me. If I had chosen psychology instead of history as my profession, I would say that most of them realize the truth, and their overt defense of Bev is their last-ditch effort to save their psyches from the realization that they've been had.



[That sounds like a description of the vast majority of the DUmmies.]


Her book about Black Box Voting is important work.


[ATTENTION BEV!!! Check out the DUmmie post above. DUmmie Bill of Rights appears to be an EASY mark.]

DUmmie Funnies 12-21-04 AM Edition ("BE IN DC on Jan. 6th THE BIG DAY!")

The DUmmies just NEVER give up despite being involved in a totally LOST cause---getting Kerry inaugurated on Jan. 20. Not the election results, not the official Ohio certification of its Electors for Bush, and not even the Electoral College voting for Bush on Dec. 13 has kept the DUmmies from desperately hoping that there is a chance to overthrow the Evil Bush Regime. Now the DUmmies are pinning their hopes on another date, Jan. 6 as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD titled, “BE IN DC on Jan. 6th THE BIG DAY!” Yes, the DUmmies think that some U.S. Senator might be wacko enough to toss his whole career away by challenging the election results despite the Bush victory margin of several million votes and the Electoral College victory. I sure hope C-SPAN covers the handful of angry DUmmies freezing outside the Capitol that day. I must admit that one of my guilty pleasures is watching C-SPAN cover marches and gatherings by the far left types. I call it “Wacko Watching.” The fun part of Wacko Watching on C-SPAN is hearing all the WILD things screamed out that the MSM doesn’t cover. I will definitely be Wacko Watching on Jan. 6. It will be FUN to watch the DUmmies from my Ant Farm spouting out loud the stuff they have been posting in DUmmieland. I only hope the DUmmies carry a sign of Li’l Beaver and tear it up in front of the cameras. Publicity like that would be great for getting me a DUFU book deal and the DUmmies owe me bigtime for publicizing all their rantings over the past few months. And speaking of DUmmie rantings, you can see them here in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, with his trusty Li’l Beaver mascot looking on, is in the [brackets]:

JAN 20this too late. BE IN DC on Jan. 6th THE BIG DAY!


[You bet! I’ve got nothing better to do with my life than freezing my butt outside in support of a completely lost cause.]


Thats when representatives.. like Conyers can object to the results... the best thing we can do is have 10's or 100's of thousands of people on the mall (front lawn of the Capitol). The words of our leaders will be powerful with the masses at the door! Look at the growing awareness.... by then if the fraud is in the open we will need to PERSONALLY hold the congress to democracy. That can ONLY be done in person. BE THERE.. plan now... Im in DC and hope to help coordinate and even take in protesters in my ouse, moms, brother, friends... this should be our true mission! We are still working on public understanding, but if that comes we will need to be in DC. All roads lead here!


[You need to leave the word “thousands” off your post. 10’s or 100’s will probably be your turnout. Most likely the former. All roads lead to Wellville.]



First, someone needs to get with Barrack Obama...And make certain he'll be willing to co-sponsor a Congressional objection...so we won't have to endure the sickening spectacle that Michael Moore sadly immortalized in "F-9-11". How fitting that it falls on Eppiphany!



[Great suggestion on how Obama can wreck his Senate career right from the start. No senator, with the possible exception of Tom Harkin, is going to drink the DUmmie Kool Aide.]


Byrd has taken the lead when it comes to civil rights and voting rights and the Senate. He was the only Democrat to oppose the Intelligence Reform Act. He is the one we can most trust.


[Yeah, the former Klansman has taken a lead on civil rights in the past….he led in opposing it.]


. Its up to us... March on DC 1/6/05 mosh style! wheres Eminem


[Mosh style marching? Wacko Watching on C-SPAN is going to be loads of FUN on Jan. 6!]



MOSH! We need to get this on MTV and VH1 student activists.



[“Mosh March.” A new MTV reality series featuring DUmmie activists protesting lost causes.]



Is anyone organizing the march? There's no reason we can't turn out huge numbers. It would, however, take a substantial amount of organizing and networking and we should be working on it starting now.



[Most likely the A.N.S.W.E.R. type loons will be in charge giving wacko speeches on a stage with a handful of freezing DUmmie shmoes looking on.]



We need, truly, millions of our fellow citizens in DC on 6 Jan. I know we will join together with responsible members of the HR and the Senate and halt the fraudulent national election of 2004. We will halt it on 6 Jan 2005. That MUST BE THE TARGET DAY for massive demonstration that we will not tolerate anything but a HALT. We will remedy the situation by providing to each of our fellow citizens who are eligible to vote an equitable access to do just that -- vote. We will ensure that each voter has a mechanism to ensure that their vote is counted exactly as they intend it to be. We will save our American franchise of democracy. We will bring joy and hope to all of humanity because of our actions. We will prevail.



[It might be even slightly helpful if you had ACTUAL proof of vote fraud. Interesting that the DUmmie rarely even mention that little detail anymore since NO vote fraud has been found committed by the Republicans. It now turns out the DUmmies want to overthrow the election results on Jan. 6 because, well, they just DON’T LIKE the election results.]



Jan 6th is too late...if you want march. March on down to your local Senator's or Rep's office TODAY and make you demand clear and in person.



[“Hi Mr. Senator! I would like you to flush your political credibility and career down the tubes on Jan. 6 by voting against the obvious election results.”]





No its not.. the day for us all to gather as 1 is the 6th ...work on these thngs too, get the word out, but without the people at the Capitol bush will be crowned, the will of the people can ONLY be ENFORCED by the people!



[Didn’t one of the Pig Commissars in Animal Farm make a remark like that?]



Oh, I'll be there on the 6th...I'd just rather it would be to celebrate our champions who are finally standing up to make the injustice visible, than to rage (yet again) against being ignored (even by our own).



[You will be raging again…..out in the cold.]




I'll be there just as I was in 2000 with David Lytell of Democrats.com....and PFAW, as well as my 78 y.o mother and my 57 y.o. sister. We were in disbelief and heartbroken as we listened to the CBC begging for just one Senator to object. We've since been told that it was Al's choice that no one object; but I tell you, it was absolutely unbelievable that not one Senator objected when we all knew that the election had been stolen! You just don't know how heartbroken we were, standing there on the Capitol grounds, freezing to death, and listening to the Freepers screaming at us "get over it"! The bastards!



[This coming year will even WORSE for you since even the Freepers will totally ignore you…except perhaps for an image of a certain Li’l Beaver smiling mockingly at you.]


Considering how pathetic the turnout was on Sunday, what makes you think that you will be able to get large numbers of people to travel to Washington when they wouldn't even show up for a protest in thier own state? Wouldn't a similarly small turnout only serve to discredit this movement by showing that it lacks public support?


[Shhhh! Don’t discourage them. I need at least a dozen DUmmies in DC to make my C-SPAN Wacko Watching an enjoyable experience.]



CONYERS is Prepared to Challenge the Election Jan 06. I guess I have to brave the cold and make those reservations to Washington D.C. January 6! Arizona is hot country so it is going to be tough to go to Washington with no blood! I may be frozen right in front of the White House as a memorial to VOTE FRAUD NOV 2, 2004!!!!
CONYERS I'M COMIN BABY...IF YOU'RE PREPARED .... SO AM I!



[Don’t worry. We will mount your frozen body on a pedestal in Lafayette Park. It will be a tribute to all DUmmies who have fallen for a Lost Cause.]



F*CK INAUGERATION! JAN 6 TO D.C. CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS! CITIZENS W PITCHFORKS ON THEIR WAY GET BOOKED NOW! Book flights, fill up cars, ride your tractor with a stack of hay, straw, whatever your preference.... all frozen momuments to VOTE FRAUD, DEMOCRACY DEATH, freaks not keeping me QUIET! THEY ARE GOING TO HEAR ME IN D.C. JAN 6, 2005!



[Please wear a Bolshevik Red beret and jacket on Jan. 6 so I can easily identify you, DUmmie lonestarnot. You could be the highlight of my Wacko Watching.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-20-04 PM Edition ("What are the odds of NOTHING going our way?")

The DUmmie Coyote is starting to wonder why the Acme Co. package keeps blowing up in his face as the Bush Road Runner goes rushing safely into the distance. BEEP! BEEP! In this DUmmie THREAD titled, “What are the odds of NOTHING going our way?” the frustrations of the perpetual losers are expressed out loud. As usual the frustrated DUmmie comments are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent is in the [brackets] :

What are the odds of NOTHING going our way?


[Somewhere between good and excellent.]


Let's just take it from Nov. 2nd


Exit Polls went to Kerry - Bush "wins"


Iraq war still rages on - Bush "wins"


Valerie Plame case not settled - Bush "wins"
and Novak "wins"


O Liely and Rush still out of their jail cells - Bush "wins"


Ballots and Suppression like crazy - Media and Bush "win"


Kerry puts his little toe in the Let's Count All The Votes water and Pulls The Toe out real quick - Bush "Wins"


Time magazine had the nerve to declare Bush its Person 0f the Year - Bush "wins"


What are the odds and what did I forget to include?





[Dan Rather’s TANG letter turns out to be a forgery – Bush “wins”


DUmmie FUnnies becomes the most popular Blog on the Web – Bush “wins”]



There MUST be a silver lining coming up for us real soon!
Let's keep pushing for justice!


[Silver lining? Yes, the DUmmie commentary is so bizarre that the DUmmie FUnnies book hits the best seller list all thanks to you DUmmies.]



The hope for a silver lining is what keeps me going But the wait has been agony. BushCo is Teflon.



[I predict you will continue to suffer agonizing pain for at least another 4 years.]


"There must be a silver lining"--we sure are due. We're OVERdue.


[The silver lining is that the Suicide Hotline will be up and running on Jan. 20. 1-800-BUSH-WON.]


Bush had the bold face nerve to make sure the protesters could not use the streets on January 20th in DC.


[Don’t worry. You don’t need to use the streets on Jan. 20. Porta-Potties will be available.]



I'm an eternal optimist But I'm beginning to lose hope. We are so totally out of power, its truly amazing. Our only national power is the filibuster and even that is under threat. Our state to state position is a little better, and there's where our best hope seems to lie. Winning some Sec of State slots should be our very highest priority.



[Cheer up. There are now numerous Dog Catcher slots open.]



I think the odds of NOTHING going our way are very high. I have been outraged since the 2000 "election" and finally calmed myself down with "it's only 4 years ~ how bad can it really get and how much damage can they actually do??" *sigh* Well,,,, I guess they showed me !!! This group consists of Master Predators and this country is/was not ready to deal with them or even see them for what they are,,,, I will never get over this.



[And if you even show the slightest sign of getting over it, a Master Predator will hunt you down, earthling.]



Tomorrrow is only a day away. When I look at the commercials on TV I've noticed that 95% of the ads are about pharma products. It can make you depressed before turning on the light. They are so slick, making you think that everything will be rosy is you just take Previcid. Yes, I am thrilled to see them taking the heat but watch, Bush will protect them with write offs. It is a sliver of hope that they will catch these crooks that prey on our health.



[Are you absolutely OUTRAGED by the election results but feel helpless to do anything about it? Then take Previcid. Within minutes, Previcid will calm you down to the point where you can appear semi-normal in public. (WARNING: Usage of Previcid may result in an outbreak of pimples, diarrhea attacks, uncontrollable drooling, political delusions, gender switching, vomiting, farting, massive urinations of false happiness, and a strong urge to make Drama Queen posts in DUmmieland. Please consult your mental health advisor before usage.)]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-20-04 AM Edition ("Promise that you won't give up")

In case there are still a few of you left who think that the DUmmies will ever “get over it” concerning the election, today’s edition of the DUmmie FUnnies will quickly disabuse you or that notion. As you can see in today’s featured DUmmie THREAD titled, “Promise that you won't give up,” the DUmmies are NOT going to give up hounding Bush even after the inauguration. They are going to continue to be filled with anger and bile. Okay, DUmmies I promise that I won’t give up. I won’t give up until the DUmmie FUnnies are published as a book (with accompanying CD-ROM) exposing your bizarre foibles for the whole country to see. I won’t give up, DUmmies, until you have all been turned into political laughingstocks. I won’t give up until the whole country has the opportunity for a good look into the DUmmie Ant Farm. I won’t give up until everybody reads your bizarre DUmmieland posts in Bolshevik Red with the responses of your humble correspondent in the [brackets]:

Promise that you won't give up. Promise that you will stay angry and use that anger to keep working at this until the whole Bush presidency falls apart, whether its next week or next month or next year or the year after.



[Yes, I promise that I will stay angry and ENRAGED. I won’t let my boiling bile die down. I will remain incredibly upset throughout the entire Bush presidency. I promise to be so upset about this that my blind rage will allow me to think of nothing else. I promise.]


Anger turned into action. Quest for sanity in 06/08 etc.


[Obviously a LOSING quest.]


Until the right to vote is a Constitutional Right! Until all electronic machines are banned from voting booths, until the software and machines are taken away from Republican Companies and returned to the people of the USA


[Funny. I seem to recall all the liberals crybabying for the introduction of those same electronic touch screen voting machines just after Election 2000.]


I'm going to turn into the Democrat version of Invader ZIM. Sounds silly, yes, but I've already got a few plans up my sleeve to start depriving neo-cons of some of their ill-gotten money. Every little bit helps...


[Soon to appear at your local video game store: “Invader ZIM vs Chimpus Khan.”]


If it takes a month, 4 years, or 40 years, I WILL NOT, NOT EVER, NEVER, EVER GIVE UP! I decided this yesterday. With all the stuff happening lately, the disappointments, I started to feel down and depressed all over again, disappointed in our dem leaders, etc, and I was ready to give up and move on to be honest. But not today or anytime in the future. I'm in this for as long as it takes to get our democracy back! I will never ever give up!!!!


[I'll NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!!! A day, a week, a month, a year, a century, a millennium! I WILL CONTINUE TO RULED BY BLIND HATE!!!]


Get involved at the grass roots level. Run for office. Become a precinct committee chair. Go door-to-door on behalf of someone.



[“Good morning, Mr. & Mrs. Citizen. I am here to share with you my ABSOLUTE BLIND RAGE AT THE BUSH REGIME!!! OHHHH! OHHHHH! AAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!”]


As Hunter Thompson might say, we will make those crazy bastards pay.


[Umm….Speaking of crazy bastards…]


You can see the fire in my eyes to know i'll never give up. I don't wake up in too happy knowing my country is on a fast pace to full blown fascism!


[You are correct. I can see by the crazed angry look in your eyes that you are a bilious loon.]



I promise with my life not to give up on this fight. we are at war. We are at war, we are in the battle field of Nov 2 every four years (plus every election), we are a divided country, if we give up we lose the war and our freedoms, we are dictated to by a partisan group who have stolen our Democracy from us and fear that we may discover the truth and fight back. We know the truth, we must fight back, we can not give up on us, but most importantly for all that is best in this country we must Win.



[Shhh! We are at war. With Terrorism. But don’t tell your DUmmie pals. It’s our little secret.]



NEVER. This is my KEY ACTIVISM ISSUE. I work on it constantly and will continue. It's about our DEMOCRACY. It's about INTEGRITY. It's about HONESTY. All values I care about deeply.



[Uhh…You left out the one value that you care about most deeply---POWER.]



I will never give up! If we do, this country will look very "Stalinesque" in the future. Maybe "Orwellian" is a better word...



[I’m sort of partial to “DUmmiesque.”]


I'm fairly new here but I'm in for the long haul. I with the rest of you waited four LONG years to bring these people down. Now to have this denied by fat cat trickery has cemented my resolve.


[Methinks your big fat resolve has been cemented to the Toilet Seat of Life.]



I will never give up. Even though it's costing me the respect of friends and family who just wish I'd "get over it", "Move On" and "face the fact that Bush won". I can't. I won't and he didn't win. Period.



[You were probably among the DUmmies who ruined the Thanksgiving dinners of their relatives by constantly bellyaching about “vote fraud” in the midst of slicing the turkey and raging against the "Bush Regime" throughout the rest of the meal.]


It isn't like the movies. We want all of our problems to be either solved or illustrated in two hours -- maybe as many as four if we're talking about an extended DVD edition of our problems -- but that's just not the way the world works. In the real world, you have to get up every day and do what you can to make things a little better, and there are no clearly defined beginnings, middles or ends. It's all one steady march, and the light at the end of the tunnel will always remain at the end of the tunnel. Sometimes you'll think you've failed when you've really won, and sometimes you'll think you've won when you've really failed. No one knows how anything turns out in the end, because there is no end. So you just have to take your best guess and run with it.


[In your case, you’ll think you’ve failed when you’ve really failed.]



I am posting BUSH CHEATED 04 in SW Ohio but it would be great if they started popping up everywhere. We don't have to prove or go into a lot of detail with supporters. It's like thye intuitively know it. If these start popping up everywhere, Rove will really be pissed off.



[Actually the Dark Lord Rove is laughing uproariously from deep within A Perfect Rovian Storm at your pathetic antics.]



Not Angry ,Just VERY determined. Bush won is a LIE! I am spending some part of every day telling people that it is a LIE and showing them why. I am waitng for the Hundreth monkey effect to kick in so we can get the CHIMP out of D. C.



[I think I saw you by the side of the freeway exit holding a brown cardboard sign that said, “MINDLESS….NEED HELP.”]


I'll be muttering, "The mass murdering, retard" at the nursing home….



[….as the nurse wheels you into the play-play ward.]




NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER WILL I GIVE UP!!! Even after all I gave during the campaign while out of work I gave for the recount in WA where I am moving in a few months. But...my husband wants me to give up and its hard. Even now as I am writing this he said, are you in that DU shit heroin?? I normally wait till he is at work to go on here. Just wanted to check updates quickly and he came in. Why are so many like my husband wanting to throw our plans and hopes away??



[Perhaps because, unlike you, your hubby wants to return to this space-time continuum.]





Not me. no way I will ever give up. Oh I get depressed every once in awhile and think what's the friggin use but I always think of my kids and then get angry again.



[Great mommy here. She gets angry whenever she thinks of her kids.]



NEVER--and please let's keep this forum active, there's no other refuge in the whole world.



[I agree. DUmmieland is definitely a refuge from sanity.]



I woke up and asked myself where the f**K is my country. I can't even bring myself to say the pledge of allegiance with the children that I teach. They have taken something precious from me, and I am for damned sure going to get it back. This time they went to far. I will stand beside each and every one of you, whether you are here on DU or in exile out on the streets. This treachery will not stand. * & Co will be brought down and held accountable for crimes against this nation and humanity. If they think the elephant never forgets, they better check with THIS ASS. They have awoken a sleeping giant and she is not going down until Truth and Justice Prevail. No Retreat No Surrender



[WOW! Time to identify “THIS ASS” of a DUmmie teacher and REMOVE her from her class of children so as to attempt to get her under rational control of herself in an Anger Management Program. I recommend Dr. Buddy Rydell as her program manager.]


It's a waste of time to work on other social issues until the election process is fixed. Nothing else matters.


[GREAT! As long as DUmmies are completely obsessed over an election result they don’t have a chance in hell of changing then they can’t cause much harm in other areas.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-18-04 ("“Person of the Year – Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!”")

The DUmmies are throwing a conniption fit over the rumor that George W. Bush might be named Time Magazine’s Person of the Year as you can see in the DUmmie THREAD titled, “Person of the Year – Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!” The DUmmies are acting like this is some meaningful award when Time Magazine long ago lost any real relevance. Time, due in large part to the Internet, has become a dinosaur. By the time any story is printed in Time, it has already been fully discussed and analyzed on the Internet. I haven’t even read a Time Magazine in years but I did take a look at one at a supermarket checkout line recently. I was shocked by how THIN Time has become. Just about 40 pages. Reading Time makes one feel like “Been there, Done that.” Everything in Time is totally outdated. While looking at Time, I almost expected my portable radio to blare out an Edward R. Murrow report about the Blitz from London. The fact is, I see absolutely NO justification for there to even be a Time Magazine. The biggest thing Time has going for it is the annual Person of the Year Award which the DUmmies seem to take so seriously. Anyway, the DUmmie rantings are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, which is probably longer than most of the current issues of Time, is in the [brackets]:

Well, there's a magazine I won't be buying.


[You and about 300 million other people. The only people left buying Time magazine are those with formaldehyde running through their veins.]



How can Bush be person of the year? There's so much wrong with that.... That's like on Barbra Walters' special Karl Rove was number one. Over Michael Moore? He's made more impact on our society then Rove.



[Absolutely. He created A Perfect Rovian Storm that defeated you guys.]



I would disagree. Rove has made a HUGE impact on our society - hell the whole world - it is entirely a negative impact, but I would say bigger than MM by a long shot.



[I wouldn’t say anybody is bigger than Michael Moore in the waistline department.]



Person of the year. Yes, indeed Rove is that. He might well one day be considered the person that caused the downfall of American society. You don't really think * could of accomplished all this w/o THIS evil mastermind do you? * is just the guy that carries the message, and the media wants to leave us w/ the impression Rove was just *'s lacky. The fact the media wants to leave this message to the world only proves that they are just as interested in getting their names down in the history books as * and his administration is. They really don't care whether it is for good or bad.



[Karl Rove is the Dark Lord who controls Evil Emperor Bush from deep within A Perfect Rovian Storm.]


Glad to see that people are getting on board with just how much influence Rove has. I agree that he has a lot and that it's all negative. I consider him and Dick Cheney the 2 most despicable people in the US. Rumsfeld is in there as well. Bush is just their lackey so he gets a bit of a break for now. As I post frequently, I can only hope that some journalist somewhere will grow a spine and REALLY investigate what happened in Florida in 2000 re: the phony felon list. Then it'll be bye bye Rove. AND his flunky, the President.



[What are you going to do? Retroactively inaugurate Algore?]



I read on another site that "Kelly" of Time is considering "Bloggers." I went to Time website, and emailed them. Why doesn't everyone? I mean, what have we got to lose. They have until 8:00 a.m. tomorrow to reveal their choice. And it's either nominate ourselves, OR Karl Rove. Should be an easy choice. After all, "Bloggers" ARE the wave of TRUE future news! We ARE the newsmakers, much as they hate to admit it.




[Hmmm…. I like that thought. Even I would buy a copy of Time if they name the DUmmie FUnnies as the Blog of the Year.]



If it is Chimpus Khan, I agree. He deserves it. No one of the face of the earth has had more impact on more people's lives than this man. Now, if it is Rove, then Time is looking at the real power behind King Khan, but would be right in line with my sentiments.



[I can already envision Karl Rove staring out at us from the midst of A Perfect Rovian Storm on the cover of Time.]


To be honest, I don't give a rat's ass who Time Magazine selects; what Time Magazine thinks; nor what they report. It's all bullshit and propaganda anyways. I'll leave it up to the Sheeples to find this "person of the year" turd food to be interesting and thought provoking.



[I heard a rumor that Time is going to become a humor magazine and name the DUmmies as a group as the Person of the Year. That should get LOTS of laughs.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-17-04 PM Edition ("At last !!! Bev Shows us the Money !!!!!")

Bev Harris has finally “come clean” with how much money she has scammed from the DUmmies and their cohorts, most likely because of public pressure from Randi Rhodes to do so. I put “come clean” in quotes because the amount Bev listed, “about $300,000” probably doesn’t even include the uncashed checks she is holding which, from reports, is a substantial sum. Read Bev’s “financial statement” and your jaws will drop. Not only from the vagueness of that statement but also from the follow up DUmmie comments where many of them still place their clueless faith in St. Bev the Con Artist. First we lead off this edition of the DUFUs with Bev’s STATEMENT. Then read in amazement the DUmmie THREAD titled, “At last !!! Bev Shows us the Money !!!!!” Both Bev’s “statement” and the gullible DUmmie commentary on it are in Bolshevik Red. The commentary of your humble correspondent, who is guessing that Bev Harris will be indicted on Jan. 20, is in the [brackets]:

About 20 people wrote to me with questions after the Randi Rhodes show. I spoke with one of Randi Rhodes’ producers this morning, and had a very good conversation. There was a misunderstanding, and we discussed ways to deal with it.



[A “misunderstanding?” Um, yeah, I guess you could say that, Bev. We can't understand how someone who conned over $300,000 can’t afford workable answering machines or telephones. And we can’t understand why you weren’t in Ohio where all the “vote fraud” action was. Of course, I think I can understand the latter when looking at the weather reports. Why freeze your considerable butt in Ohio when you can luxuriate in warmth in sunny Florida in 5 star hotel suites. But continue…]


Some of Rhodes’ listeners asked for an accounting of donations. Here is more information:

I founded Black Box Voting in June, 2004, and to provide its seed money, I donated my revenues and the rights to the Black Box Voting book. In addition, I persuaded two benefactors to provide $10,000 each. This yielded just under $30,000, and the entire organization survived on that for many months -- two full-time salaries, supplies, travel, investigations, press conferences, web site development and all.


[Strange that you don’t name those two “benefactors” but continue, Bev…]


I knew it would be a tough go of it to take an organization with almost no funding (and therefore no infrastructure -- no administrative support, no equipment, no development director, no business manager, no secretary) and turn it into a viable long-term organization to do consumer protection for elections.


[And STILL no workable answering machines or telephones despite raking in over $300,000 but continue, Bev…]


We believed that our organization would survive, because in the 12 weeks before and after the election, interest would peak and we could, hopefully, obtain enough donations to put in an infrastructure and get some basic computer and telecommunications equipment, in addition to some administrative staff. We are also aware that for our organization, this kind of fund raising will happen only every four years, and it will be a challenge to stay alive in the mean time.


[We got the point, Bev. You had to put up some seed money to pull off the con, please continue…]

From September through November, members of our organization did over 300 interviews, including international wire service stories and TV spots on CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, NBC, and many local stations. We also provided interviews for over 100 print media outlets, like newspapers and magazines. Five members of Black Box Voting conducted interviews, many of us nonstop for months on end. Randi Rhodes was one such interview, and of course I appreciate what she did to fund raise.


[Over 300 interviews in September and November. And yet for the few interview requests you got in the past few weeks, your answering machine goes mysteriously dead and your telephone won’t record the incoming calls coincidentally coming from the area codes of Keith Olbermann and Randi Rhodes. Continue…]


One thing that caused a miscommunication, I think, is that I did not know that Randi Rhodes was going to do the fund raising. I learned about it after it started, when I was in a meeting, when to my astonishment my phone lost its mind. Apparently my cell phone number was being given out over Air America.


[Damn that Randi for getting the suckers to send in all that money!!! Keep on this tale of woe, Bev….]


The fund raising was specifically for Freedom of Information requests, and was never for the purpose of overturning an election. I am confident that Randi Rhodes was accurate about that, because the letters we got with donations had notes saying "heard about you on Randi Rhodes, this is for the FOIA."


[Nice touch. Get that bit in there to satisfy your non-profit status requirement. Contine…]


American people were hurting, because they saw that the election was not transparent or accountable. Some people began to hope that Black Box Voting would reverse the presidential election.


[That’s strange. I’m an American and I wasn’t hurting. But it’s nice to know you felt DUmmie pain. Continue…]


Now, let's look at this idea for a moment: John Kerry literally ran away from the idea of doing any auditing or recounts, and only grudgingly agreed to be involved at all. He invested none of millions that he had raised from his donors was "to make sure every vote counts."


[Hey, we can’t blame Kerry for tossing his campaign money away on lost causes. He has to keep that $15 million in campaign cash from being wasted on “vote fraud” or paying his campaign staff.]


Instead, our small organization, with just two full time employees and a volunteer, were supposed to bootstrap our way into overturning a presidential election -- without the support of the candidate himself -- something that has never been done in history, and an activity that our nonpartisan nonprofit 501c(3) status specifically prohibits.


[And yet the DUmmies did send you the money to overturn the election. Good con on your part, Bev, to let the DUmmies fool themselves into thinking that while maintaining your “nonpartisan nonprofit” status. However, it doesn’t really take much skill to con the gullible dummies. Also I like how you are shifting the blame for you getting NO RESULTS onto the back of John Kerry. Continue…]



I hear the angst in America, from people who know this election was not trustworthy. I do believe that the person most responsible for failure to get an accountable election is John Kerry himself.


[Great drama queen shtick there with that “angst” bit. Yes, blame John Kerry. He will be the scapegoat for your failure when the DUmmies finally come to their senses about how you conned them Bev. Continue…]


A handful of people mailed us checks with the words "for a recount" on them. I think this was due to the proximity, I’m sure accidentally, of news about the Ralph Nader recount with news about Black Box Voting’s FOIA request and auditing.

We were careful to identify those checks, and made arrangements for these to go to Help America Recount, a 527 organization that is set up for this purporse. Our nonprofit status does not allow us to become involved in recounts.


[How honest of you, Bev. And how much did those checks you turned over to Help America Recount add up to? $300 out of $300,000? Funny you didn’t mention the amount. Continue…]


I am also confident that most people donated for exactly what we do, because most checks -- when they say anything -- say "for auditing" or "for the FOIA" or "help restore clean elections."


[Somehow I think the vast majority of the checks said that or least you claim they said that. Continue…]


Our financial statements will be released with a precise accounting, but here are interim figures as of the end of November:


[WHEN do we get that “precise accounting,” Bev? Just after you are indicted?]


Donations tagged to Randi Rhodes show: $23,800
All donations, some of which we have allocated to building infrastructure and off-election funding droughts:
About $300,000.


We have spent or committed about $19,000 of the $23,800 Randi Rhodes money. This was for FOIA requests and related legal expenses.


[$300,000 and you still have cheap crappy answering machines and telephones? Screw honest work! I think I’m going to scam DUmmies for a living. It has a HUGE payoff and they are so easy to con. BTW, how do you know only $23,800 was Randi Rhodes money? You mean you are able to channel the folks who got suckered by Randi and know that the money came from listening to her show? Continue…]


(By "committed" I mean that Palm Beach County has assessed $4,400, but is now saying we can't have all the records, so of course we haven't handed over the money yet, and Snohomish County, which wants $2500, suddenly got caught up in a hand recount for the governor's race and couldn't deliver some of the documents).


[UNBELIEVABLE!!! Out of the $300,000 you admit to scamming from DUmmies & Co., you only spent $19,000 of it. BUT WAIT!!! You didn’t even spend that relatively paltry sum. You merely “committed” it so you haven’t even handed over the money which means you NEVER will, Bev. Just tell me, Bev, how you have managed to stay out of jail this long. Continue...]


- Our board of directors has taken no compensation at all.

- Kathleen Wynne -- bless her! -- has taken no compensation at all, though she has devoted week after week of 14-hour-a-day work specifically for our organization. We have offered her a position. She has more than earned it!

- My salary is $60,000 per year, about half what I was making before I took on this mission.

- Andy Stephenson was making $48,000 per year.


[Kathleen Wynne, bless her little heart hasn’t taken a cent from the slush fund. However, she does sound every bit as crooked as you, Bev. I know. I heard both of you on the Steve Kane radio show. As to Andy Stephenson, you conveniently neglected to mention you publicly fired him in a most humiliating way on the Web for all to see. This firing was memorialized in a previous edition of the DUmmie Funnies.]


We are replacing the Associate Director position with two people: A media specialist/investigator and an administrator, and we will incur considerable expense in our end of year accounting. We are putting in infrastructure, including more permanent office space, a decent phone system, a decent computer system, a high speed scanner to get the FOIA documents on the Web, and a much better Web site under new hosting.


[A decent phone system? You haven’t had a decent phone nor answering machine in weeks despite swimming in a pile of cash. How much would that cost you, Bev? A hundred bucks? Out of $300,000 not exactly a considerable expense. And why do you need PERMANENT office space for filing FOIA requests? You can do that with just a $40 filing cabinet. Even cheaper if you buy a used filing cabinet at the flea market. Infrastructure? Yeah. 5 star hotel suite “infrastructure.”]


This will add one salary, and will add fixed cost for office space and additional accounting. In addition, we need to bring in a development director to write grant proposals and set up a permanent fund raising structure.


[Yeah. Fund raising is what your con is all about, Bev. Too bad that your sources of funds have just about dried up. But don’t worry. There is still that con about the documentary you are NOT making that you can pull off.]


In our travels, I have learned that this is truly a nonpartisan issue. Everyone wants clean elections, and everyone realizes that having a wholly independent organization, completely funded by the grass roots for the purpose of acting as a watchdog for elections, is a very important thing to do.


[You’re just too good to us, Bev. Continue…]


Now, as to why I did not travel to Ohio: I have testified in front of the legislature many times. Each time, I was asked to do so. I was not asked to go to Ohio and testify, and I certainly wouldn’t just barge in without an invitation. I did let people of influence know that I would be happy to go to Ohio to do whatever is needed. I am not printing their names here, because that seems like an invasion of privacy. One is a lawyer who has been helping with the recount, one has been involved in strategy, and one is a leading Ohio voting integrity group head.


[The reason you did not travel to Ohio is that the weather sucks there, Bev. Also why waste a $200 plane trip to Ohio when people there actually expect results from you? Too risky.]


I remain willing to go on Randi Rhodes show, go on Keith Olbermann’s show, or go to Ohio for the hearings, but I do need an invitation to do so.


[You need a working answering machine and telephone to receive their calls or so you claim. The hundred bucks or so you would have to shell out for this “high tech” equipment would eat to deeply into that $300,000 mountain of cash you have stashed away.]


I hope this answers at least some of your questions.

Have a blessed day,

Bev Harris


[I have one more question, Bev. Just where the HELL has that $300,000 gone? Infrastructure? That is a pretty vague description. It could mean anything from full body massages to 5 star hotel suites. We already know you didn’t waste any money going to Ohio where the center of the “vote fraud action is. Anyway, let us now hear how the gullible DUmmies reacted to this statement by Bev.]



Call me crazy...but just $23,800 of $300,000 tagged to Randi's show seems a bit low to me. I didn't mention Randi's show in my donation, and i gave them $50.



[You sent $50 to Bev? Yeah, I’ll call you crazy. And I’ll also call you a sucker.]



This is not an accounting of funds. It's a vague description, and the gratuitous slam at JK is more than a little disconcerting.



[A very very dim light just clicked on in the tiny tiny mind of this DUmmie.]




It is a huge task to maintain a 501(c)3 and track all the money, file all the reports to the IRS, keep exactive accounts..... not to mention doing the actual work the organization purports to do. However, it would be nice to find time to report a little to the donors. Of course, that might swell the problem to a million dollar problem. By the way, I notice that election fraud has grow to a big industry online, with the collection basket out in force. Some sites seeking donations seem to be even more stagnant than blackbox.



[You bet election fraud has grown into a big online industry. Now that I see how much loot can be easily conned from you DUmmies, I’m going to get in on the action. BTW, do you know I am just $10 away from proving that the 2000 election was stolen from Al Gore. Just send that amount in (or even more) and I can guarantee that Al Gore will be retroactively sworn in as president. Oh, and don’t use the term, “retroactively” because I trademarked it and will sue your ass if you type that word on your keyboard.]



but she's the one with $306,000 of other people's money in her acct. Ya know, you bevborgs all have the same explanation for Bev's irrational behavior..."it's stress."




[Getting away with conning $300,000 can play havoc with your nerves.]


Anyone can throw numbers around! How about a spreadsheet? At the very least a little bit of proof somewhere.


[You want accountability from Bev? A little late for that, DUmmie. And how much did she scam YOU for?]


Well, Bev, I do believe that some of us on this board are absolutely correct that you are a limelight hog and no friend of the Democratic party. It's all about you, you, you, you, you.


[Bev cons you out of $300,000 (actually a lot more) and your main concern is that she is stealing the limelight from you?]


I feel like I'm on a citizen jury of sorts, and until all the evidence is in, I'm not going to judge John Kerry as a failure at anything. As for Bev, she reminds me of a witness that is so unappealing personally, it's hard to separate the testimony from the person.



[Well, you certainly aren’t going to separate Bev from that money. It’s all GONE. Kiss that dough goodbye. You will never again see the money that Bev conned from the DUmmies.]


BEV has sealed her position as a suffer of a serious personality disorder. this make you happy progressiveboston?? think of all the people, myself included that feel foolish for having given bev $.



[BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Thanx for the belly laugh! And I’m sure I’ll get more laughs when the next con artist pops up and scams you out of even more money!]



Well, what about a status report. A clear accounting of where she is going and what she has accomplished thus far. It seems so jumbled to me. What about the lawsuit against Lepore?



[Hey DUmmie! You got SCAMMED and you’re actually still wondering about how Bev is spending that $300,000 on your dopey cause?]


I gave up a day's pay to stay home and make signs -- freeway blogs -- to lead people to her site when she was "talkin' trash" from Florida. I thought that was important information to share with my corner of the world. I made the signs, drove around and hung them, tended to them for weeks, replacing them when the weather had taken it's toll, hanging more that I carried in my car, etc. Then the drama started. The statements that she placed on her site when she was tombstoned here, now the conflict with ARR and RR, firing Andy, the "theories" about her forum, ... the list could go on for ever!

All those things were played out on her FRONT PAGE. Not some little disclaimer that you had to know was there or look for to find, but right there for ALL visitors, new and old alike to see. It so overshadowed the WORK she was doing that I went out and took down my signs for her site. I was embrassed to leave them. Anyone stumbling onto that site from one of my signs would have thought that I, too, was a loon even if I didn't know them. When the drama became more interesting than the effort and the supporting evidence I could no longer support her site.

Now, she is posting her donation info on the main page and we still haven't seen the evidence that she says she has. What's the point?

I never directly gave her any money intentionally. I did, however, donate without realizing it. At our rally last Sunday, they were passing the "jug" for donations. I put money in the bucket assuming that it was going to the group that organized the rally. Only after the jug had passed by me did they announce that the money they were raising was to go to Bev. I felt sick.

I am one of those that was referred to in an earlier post today about being three paychecks from homeless... only I am tetering on more like a days pay from homeless sometimes... especially with kids at christmas time. I didn't put that much in that jug, but if I could have snatched it back out of that jug I would have with no remorse.

So, I gave something that I can never get back... TIME and a belief that I can get the message out to others with confidence that what I am supporting deserves someone else's consideration.

When the person becomes more important than the movement we have a martyr not a leader. She was a player, no doubt about it, but the drama makes us all seem like we have followed a rat charmer out of the hamlet never to be believed again.

Shame on Bev for that. Rise above it Bev. Those that have supported you would appreciate some professionalism. I would rather hear about the issue on legitimate terms rather than gossipy he said/she said front page distractions.

Just my two cents -- that's all I can afford!


[DUmb DUmb DUmmie!!! You admit Bev scammed you and you still come back again like a DUmmie wanting “professionalism” from her? How many times do you have to be conned for the truth to finally sink in?]


It appears she gave these numbers now to temporarily satisfy people who requested this info after Rhodes show. I say wait until this "precise accounting" is released before making further accusations. It's in Harris's best interest to have the official precise accounting done as soon as possible. People are very doubtful of her as of late and her behavior has totally taken everyone away from what really matters, fixing our voting process and exposing the crooks that are part of it.



[DUmb DUmb DUmmie!!! You need to sit around and wait for “precise accounting?” By the time that happens, Bev will be sitting in the jailhouse cell.]


If she cared, she'd exit. She has harmed the cause of bbv reform far more than she's helped it. At this point, she should pass the torch to someone else.


[DUmb DUmb DUmmie!!! Yeah, like Bev is really going to turn that BBV gravy train scam over to someone else.]


And HOW do we verify what she reports about money anyway? For what we know, the 3 family members on the board of directors are sucking up a bunch of it for a vacation in FL and calling it "executive travel"...


[Every once in awhile, even a DUmmie has a brief moment of mental clarity.]


At least there will be something more official to go by. Rhodes mentioned she helped raise at least $50,000, Harris says $23,000. Who's being more accurate or truthful? BBV is something Harris started so no one can tell her to step aside. Those that gave money did so on their own judgment. Harris has caused a black eye to this serious issue and people should speak out against it by no longer contributing if this is what the feel. We don't know what Harris has collected in way of proof but those that have and will continue to donate should be asking her of this. Have Harris be more approachable and show what she has been doing. Pressure her to except Olberman shows. Without donations Harris wouldn't be where she's at now and owes accountability to those that have helped her along the way.



[You want Harris to show what she is doing? How many times do you have to be slapped across your DUmmie face before you wake up to reality?]


I donated $50 to Bev. Maybe it was money down the toilet, maybe not. I don't see why we can't wait and see if anything develops from the work she's done in Florida. We are all anxious to have this resolved quickly, but maybe it won't happen as quickly as we'd like. I definitely want to see something before I'd ever donate more, that's for sure. But I'm not so concerned.


[You were right the first time. It was money down the toilet.]


To Bev, if you're reading this ... do the right thing. You sit in a unique position to make a real difference in history. Let this be larger than the desire to strike back. Don't let your ego stand in the way, it's not necessary. By giving credit to the work done by others, you will increase your image to the public. Be honest at all costs or you'll lose credibility. Apologize for any previous actions that were either distorted, not truthful, or inappropriate. Remember everyone is ready to forgive when a genuine effort is made.

You will only achieve your place in history by setting aside your ego and petty quarreling. Get the help you need. Have one of your new employees handle the press arrangements and most importantly the phone for the organization.

To everyone else, put the past behind you. I know it's hard but consider it as your contribution to the cause - so end the Bev Bashing that casts a cloud on everything and everyone.

It's almost Christmas. Let the spirit fill everyone with love for one another.


[You still don’t have a clue, do you, DUmmie?]


With only two full-time employees how can anybody expect her to keep precise track of the money given to her? A story to illsutrate: early on this summer I contributed some money to BBV and sent money for 10 copies of her book to pass out among people I knew (profs, a local newspaper editor, friends, etc.). She failed to send it for a long time. I had sent a contribution exceeding the cost of the books along with the request for the books ($100 for 10, a special rate for those who like me wanted to be involved and give the book circulation). After a month or so, I got a letter from her apologizing for not having been able to respond before then. She sent along 20 books instead of the 10 asked for, saying I didn't need to pay for them since I'd had to wait a long time as it was. Now look: everybody's a little bit cuckoo in some way or other and maybe I'm the only one who fails to see a problem with Bev (maybe I'm cuckoo that way) but I think she's trying her best to achieve the aim of transparent and fair elections. She likely is a little paranoid, as I think almost anybody would be who tried to buck the voting machine vendors. Why not support her and do everything in your individual power to achieve the same end? If she has offended people needlessly, that's her karma. She'll have to meet it. Why make bad karma for yourself and diminish the good that could be done by bad-mouthing somebody with idealistic goals and a lot of courage?


[Please let us know when you finally wake up from your deep deep coma.]



I still say she's an f'ing FRAUD, an f'ing EGOMANIAC, an F'ing Drama Queen, and an F'ing Joke.


[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]


After January, I personally will be asking for my money back. I suggest everyone does. Perhaps we should all pull a Bev on her and sue her ass if that's possible! I wish someone who's been on DU for a long time would explain to me how this woman gained so much cred from so many people for so long, despite her obvious display of a markedly advanced borderline personality disorder. She is a crazymaker, she thrives on drama and causes it to happen, all to draw attention to herself. When the attention dries up, she pulls out the long knives. What a trainwreck.


[Maybe so but that “trainwreck” was still able to easily sucker you out of your money which I don’t think you will be seeing anytime soon…or ever.]



Wait A Second, DO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME "Donations tagged to Randi Rhodes show: $23,800

All donations, some of which we have allocated to building infrastructure and off-election funding droughts:

About $300,000. We have spent or committed about $19,000 of the $23,800 Randi Rhodes money. This was for FOIA requests and related legal expenses."

That out of 300,000, she only spent 19,000 of it on what we donated it for? And she spent the rest on "infrastructure" such as a bigger refrigerator to store her food and expanded ceilings to contain her ego?

And what off-election funding droughts. WTF does that mean? If you put it in layman terms does it mean "hey, you, yeah you, please donate to me for a deceptive cause so I can pay my late bills?"

Show the damn video Bev, whether it's yours or not I'm sure you have some influence, and it has been said you had your own video of that day. And release the damn poll tapes too you f***ing fraud.



[A little Reality Check there for DUmmie IAMREALITY.]


It keeps looking more and more like everybody has been scammed. About 6.3% of the money has actually been spent on doing something productive (FOIA requests/legal expenses) and the rest paid her salary and for a nice month-long vacation in Florida. A few thousand bucks probably went toward web hosting for a few months, and a few hundred to her evidently very poor cell phone service. It's now mid-December and I have a feeling that those in charge have had plenty of time to cover up all evidence of a rigged election.


[What do you mean EVERYBODY has been scammed? What’s this “we” business, Kemosabe?]



Actually, my source in BevBot central says that the number is around a cool million (raised in November). Curiously, bbv.org has no accountant and I am also told documentation of expenditures could be a problem as detailed records are not being kept.



[I don’t doubt that figure. This post above was made by plan9_pub, who is David Allen of Plan 9 Publishing. Although he has a screw loose for merely being a DUmmie, his information on Bev Harris has been generally accurate since he also worked with and, inevitably, got burned by her.]



Well, she'd better save that missing 700K for the IRS investigation that will surely follow. I am sure that more than one pissed-off BBV donor will report her to the IRS; and fighting the IRS can become very expensive very quickly.



[I’m figuring the Bev Harris indictment will be coming down on Jan. 20. And the best thing about her trial will be that it exposes just how easily she was able to con the DUmmies….and Randi Rhodes.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-17-04 AM Edition ("FREEPERS READ THIS")

The DUmmie who posted this THREAD titled, “FREEPERS READ THIS” is a marketing genius. He/She/It/Whatever knew that it would short-circuit the normal DUFU auditioning process and lead to its immediate induction into the DUmmie FUnnies as a featured thread. Normally, I would have ignored a DUmmie thread about an Ohio judge tossing out the “vote fraud” lawsuit because such Ohio recount arcania is starting to bore me. However, when packaged correctly in this form, how could I avoid featuring it? Oh, and here is another deal, DUmmies. If you post ANY thread using the words, “DUmmie FUnnies” in the title, and I will feature that one as well. And now to DUFU this edition with the DUmmie screechings in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent and auditioner is in the [brackets]:

FREEPERS READ THIS


[I’m all eyes. Please continue, Mr. Delusioneer…]


CMON, I know you're reading this...You guys screwed up BIG TIME TODAY!!! HAA HAAA HAAAA! Chief Justice of Ohio's Supreme Court really messed up... fell for it HOOK LINE AND SINKER. Even better, so did your great hero SLUDGE!!!! No go back to your own forum and do what FREPPERS DO BEST: STICK YOUR HEADS IN THE SAND!!!!


[Yeah, it was all planned that you folks would file a faulty lawsuit that would be tossed out by the judge from the get-go! And it was all planned that Ohio would certify Bush as the winner on Dec. 6 and that the Ohio electors would cast their votes in the Electoral College on Dec. 13 to make Bush the official winner. Yes, it was all part of that grand plan to make Kerry the president. And your plan is working BEAUTIFULLY!!!]


that by them throwing out the case, the media will be all over it - finally giving our story legs and we refile correctly. Do I win a prize?


[Oh, so the media can cast the electoral votes retroactively in the Electoral College to declare Kerry the winner? What a GENIUS of a plan!!! And yes, you do win a prize. A booby prize.]



Not only that, but Moyers put himself in precarious legal/ethical position... he should have recused himself immediately... not doing so means he gave a judgement, directly or indirectly, on a law suit where he was a defendent... grounds for disbarment.



[So why don’t you take that DUmmie Posse that was going to arrest Ken Blackwell and send them out to disbar Judge Moyers? Oh, and don’t forget to post a petition on the Web calling for his disbarment so we can all sign it. Hee! Hee!]



did that judge just did not read the complaint? Is that why he ruled on it? Or, was he just trying to be above the law like everyone else in the Ohio courts and pushing his luck? I'm confused about this guy's idiocy. Thanks.



[Perhaps that judge was a Perfect Rovian Agent who is a secret member of a rightwing sleeper cell. BTW, I’m NOT confused about YOUR idiocy.]


If he recuses... then another, less conservative judge gets the case... which would have been much better for him than what he did do, but bad if he wants to keep Bush (and himself) the winner of the election. At any rate, the MSM media picked up on it WAY TOO FAST without considering the implications... which I think was the ultimate goal.


[Yes, it is all part of the grand plan and all the pieces are fitting in perfectly. Now if only the Congress officially announces Bush as the winner on Jan. 6 and the Kerry presidency will be a certainty.]


I'm praying you're right but I've got my hopes up so many times it hard not to be squeamish. Blackwell and this judge are acting as if they are above the law! What do they know that we don't?


[Answer: BUSH WON.]



We should be kind to freepers. It's such a burden to so challenged. Intellectually and morality wise.



[Would you mind repeating that phony Shakespeare quote about patriotism that you DUmmies were reciting recently with the smug pride of having knowledge about the Bard that we poor Freepers lacked?]


Freepers, you have my apology. Please stay and read what Democracy is all about.



[I’m not sure about Democracy but we sure are reading a lot about insanity.]


Whats a 'FREEPER'?


[Folks who laugh at DUmmies.]



Originally referring to a denizen of the Free Republic website, the term has come to have a more generic meaning, and is used to refer to any Right Wing disruptor who comes on to this site, as well as referring to RW wackos in general.



[Also the vast majority of signers of the Arrest Ken Blackwell petition that went nowhere. Hee! Hee!]


Are these a group of right wing hackers? From a website?


[We are rightwing cyberwarriors from A Perfect Rovian Storm bearing deadly satirical tipped swords.]



They are from freerepublic.com. They are like Nazis. They adore the Chimp and like the fascism that is on the rise in the U.S. They like the Nazi playbook because they advocate violence with anyone who underminds the Chimp and questions the Chimp's authority.



[Hail to the Chimp! Woe unto anybody who “underminds” him!]


Some build up their post count with innoccuous posts in the lounge and then when they've been here a respectable amount of time and gotten a respectably high post count, start spouting RW talking points.


[And some of them build up their post count and end up undetected as DUmmie Moderators. Hee! Hee!]



I understand the logic of this...But how are we sure that even if the Chief Justice gets shitcanned that it's going to fall on the shoulders of a "less conservative" justice? I know it will be one less repuke, but we're still outnumbered 2 to 1. Do we know that the next justice in line to take his place isn't one of them?



[You mean there is logic in this to understand?]


I'm not going to conjecture anything, as I'm not a lawyer; but it's obvious that Arnebeck counted on this and had planned it as part of his strategy. What his end-game is going to be we'll have to wait and see, but it sure as hell just went to a whole new level of interest. As said above... the MSM has finally picked up on the fraud issue by reporting the "Toss-Out"; and they are the ones that have appeared to been used the most in this maneuver.


[That Arnebeck…what a GENIUS! He actually planned in advance to have his lawsuit tossed out right away. And he was able to keep this secret plan carefully hidden from everyone…including himself.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-16-04 PM Edition ("I believe Kerry will be inaugurated on Jan 20”)

DUmmieland is obviously still a Fantasyland judging from the title of this DUmmie THREAD titled, “I believe Kerry will be inaugurated on Jan 20.” Yeah, and I BELIEVE the tooth fairy will be inaugurated on Jan. 20. All I have to do is envision my own alternate reality. Yes, I am already envisioning an alternate reality inauguration ceremony followed by an alternate reality inauguration ball. So let us now view the alternate reality of DUmmie comments in Bolshevik Red while your humble correspondent comments, from a cloud in the alternate reality, are in the [brackets]:

I BELIEVE


[I BELIEVE you are about to be institutionalized.]


I believe Kerry will be inaugurated on Jan 20. I am Doohickie, and I approve this message.


[I believe DUmmie Doohickie will be institutionalized on Jan 20. I am the Tooth Fairy, and I approve this message.]


I have read several sentiments... "i believe kerry will be in the white house in 2005." that's great, but... where's the action.


[Shhh! I am envisioning my own reality of taking action.]


I know we will join together with responsible members of the HR and the Senate and halt the fraudulent national election of 2004. We will halt it on 6 Jan 2005.


[Your choice: electroshock therapy or removal of the frontal lobes.]


We are made of sunbeams

we are made of molten glass

we can light the fire of living

we can learn with an ugly past

we can roar into the future

like a bull with battered brains

and it's a mighty thin line

'tween livin' and dyin

and all these stupid games

and it all depends on if you use your mind


[And all this time I thought you were made of moonbeams.]



I can't even imagine all the voices and stories and images that were going through Kerry's mind on November 3. I believe he understood the desperation of so many around the world. I don't believe he's given up, and neither have I.



[I believe you will be calling the suicide hotline number on Jan. 20: 1-800-BUSH-WON.



I still believe too! Jan. 6 will be OUR stellar day!



[So stellar that you will be beamed up to the Mother Ship that day.]


John F.Kerry is a true American patriot that loves his country that respects and will fight for the rights of all Americans, even those who disagree with him. He is a man with a heart the size of Texas and has the strength and knowledge to be a great leader. He is a man of intelligence who can see all sides of a issue and incorporate all available data before making a decision. He is contemplative and thorough. He is a man of rare qualities in our political environment today. John F.Kerry is in fact the right man, at the right place, at the right time.


[Help is on the way in the form of a crowbar to remove those lips of yours superglued to Kerry’s butt cheeks.]


I'm starting to lose faith that he will be inaugurated on Jan 20.


[Just because the Electoral College just declared Bush the winner, is that any reason to lose faith that Kerry will be inaugurated on Jan. 20?]


Hi Everyone!! My mom had to run next door so I thought I would jump on an chat with everyone. I Love Kerry like my mom does. he is totally awsome dude!!


[Have you asked your mom if you are Kerry’s secret love child?]


I'm 16 and will turn 17 in March so I'm not no push over when it comes down to who I support in politics. I argue with my friends all the time over Kerry. They say me and my mom are just alike when it comes to thinking. But my mom got me interested in politics when I was young around 7 anyway when I don't go to school we watch the Senate. I got interested in Kerry long before he ran for president. My mom is crazy she has always said he was good looking LOL! But he really is a great senater and I wanted him for a president so bad! It makes me sick to think we have stupid Bush again. I got more brains in my pinky than that dummies got. How can so many be so dumb and vote for him. BARF!!!
I Say KERRY KERRY KERRY!!


I say DUMMIES DUMMIES DUMMIES!!]


I believe Kerry will step right up to the plate. If the election gets turned around by whatever means, scenario, that’s another discussion. Let’s say it happens. He’s President Kerry. I like the sound of that. He said he would have his cabinet ready. He has to be able to lead this country and bring it together. He has not lost any political capitol over this. The press hasn’t maligned him. He still looks presidential. I think he’s preparing. Inauguration day we all come together. Democrats delighted of course. Many republican citizens won’t want Bush if he they believe he stole the election by design. Many are sorry they voted for him, MSM has been more critical of this administration than before the election. And we really don’t know how many votes he got.


[1-800-BUSH-WON. Remember that Suicide Hotline number on Jan. 20]



I believe and I also believe my brain has become a little addled in the last few weeks. Please make this nightmare end! Please, I need to believe.



[I believe that your brain will go from addled to scrambled.]


I believe we'll be dancing in the streets on Jan 20.


[Laminate that Suicide Hotline number and make sure it is in your wallet on Jan. 20. 1-800-BUSH-WON.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-16-04 AM Edition ("Why are we sparing John Kerry?")

For weeks following the November election the DUmmies have desperately placed their hopes on challenging the results on John Kerry. Although Kerry conceded on November 3, the DUmmies believe that through a series of subtle gestures, voice intonations, and vague statements that Kerry was fully supporting their efforts to overturn the Ohio election results thus giving the victory to him. Even as late as this past Monday morning, the DUmmies were jubilantly acting like it was the Second Coming because Kerry had his signature placed on some relatively inconsequential letter asking that the innards of a few Ohio voting machines should be checked out. Later that same day, when the Ohio electors cast their votes in the Electoral College for Bush, even a few DUmmies were starting to realize that Kerry really isn’t doing a thing except giving them false encouragement so as to obtain their support in the ’08 election, to overturn the election results. So now the big DUmmie backlash against Kerry has begun in this DUmmie THREAD titled, “Why are we sparing John Kerry?” As usual, the posts of the DUmmies who were as easily conned by John Kerry as they were by Bev Harris are in outraged Bolshevik Red. The commentary of your humble correspondent, watching from the gallery of the Electoral College as the DUmmies cast aspersions upon Kerry, is in the [brackets]:



Why are we sparing John Kerry? He needs to step up to the plate. We supported John Kerry. We walked and called and argued for him. Where is he in a crisis? He promised to count every vote. Whoops. He wants to run in 2008? If our votes aren't counted, I don't get where the exertion lies. John Kerry will be able to just lay back because the suporrt won't be there. Email John Kerry and let him know, unless our votes are counted, he'll be able to count votes for himself on hands and toes:



["Hi John Kerry! I am e-mailing you to let you know that I voted for you before I voted against you. Anyway, I want you to drink the Kool Aide and support Bev Harris’ efforts in Ohio to overturn the election and come off like a sore loser. Don’t worry. Even though you will be initially branded as a sore loser you will definitely win the Ohio election because Bev told us she is only $10 away from proving massive vote fraud in that state. Could you send me just a wee bit of that $15 million in campaign funds you have stashed away to attend your inaugural ball this January? Since you are stiffing your campaign staff I know you can afford it."]


The lawyers for Green presidential candidate David Cobb and Libertarian presidential candidate Michael Badnarik, along with Kerry-Edwards 2004 have added election tampering to a civil suit filed against the state of Ohio over problems with the state's recount


[Oooooh! Oooooh! Oooooh! Then that means that Kerry really is working on our side ever so subtly. Look for Kerry’s secret hand signals when he adjusts his tie. It will be his message to the DUmmie troops to rise up in Ohio and overturn the election results there.]


I don't know what he's saving himself for. This is his moment, as well as the moment where he keeps his part of the deal. Can you imagine how much easier all this vote fraud work would have been to get into the press had the Senator been more assertive?




[But Kerry IS more assertive. Did you notice the forceful way he used his index finger to adjust his tie? It is his secret hand signal that he is keeping his part of the deal.]


I don't know him personally, as most of us don't, which is why I think we can't assume we know what he's up to. I'm trying to help keep hope alive until we know one way or the other.



[That’s right. You go ahead and keep hope alive right up to 11:59:59 AM on Jan. 20.]


It's hard to wait, though. We don't know whether he is working furiously behind the scenes, or just watching casually. But just judging by how hard he campaigned, it's more likely the former than the latter.


[Maybe he is furiously snow boarding behind the scenes.]


He fights smart. He was kind of in a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation with this election. He will move if and when he deems it wise, but he is not one to quit or buckle under pressure. This whole situation has been very tricky. Look what happened to Gore when he didn't concede...if he did or if he didn't, there are problems either way. Kerry has had to weigh the options and judge the most prudent course of action. I still believe he's got our back if he possibly can.


[I am experiencing massive urinations of happiness in my pants over your inspirational message of hope concerning John Kerry.]


John Kerry needs to keep his promises, just like I do to my babysitter. And he needs to be seen as a man of his word.


[So did John Kerry promise to boff your babysitter?]



Well...he sent his brother Cam out on CNN w/Woodruff yesterday....but Cam said...move along..focus on the future...Kerry will be working on issues....not sorry about anything...there are always mistakes made in campaigns but focus on the future... This was after a report on the Washinton State and Ohio re-votes. Not a word was mentioned to Cam or by Cam about the revote.



[Apparently you missed the subtle hidden message in Cam’s response. The part about “focus on the future” REALLY means, “Send money to Bev Harris.”]


I just sent him an email asking him to help us out as we did him.


[Kerry will help you out just like he helped out his campaign staff that he stiffed.]


Kerry, if you're reading this, YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. We need your leadership NOW!


[Don’t worry. Kerry will provide the leadership you need on the morning of Jan. 20.]


This isn't Kerry's fight, it's obviously ours. But he did make some promises which I'm sure we all remember. And which he may need to be remind of just about now. We've worked to frame this fight. Ask John Kerry to fullfill his promise:


[John Kerry will support the revote…before he opposes the revote.]


Yeah, that will work! How much longer do we have to beg??? WTF, is this accomplishing? NOTHING. We have emailed Kerry since he conceded. He knows how we feel about this... John Kerry is not deaf, dumb or blind. Why Kerry and the DNC choose to remain silence? I don't know, only time will tell. We don't have time, unless of course you are willing to settle for just possibly impeaching * The time is NOW. The Ukraine's showed us how it's done. The real question here IS... Why are we so scared to truly stand up and fight for democracy? Because that's what it's going to take. It's the 11th hour and Bush reselection is moving right along.


[The Ukraine? Have you considered wearing orange undies? That should stop the “reselection” in its tracks.]


Kerry may be windsurfing somewhere. But we deserve an answer because as you rightfully say, the time is NOW.



[Wrong season. Kerry is off snow boarding somewhere.]



I didn't say John Kerry was windsurfing somewhere. I don't know what he's doing. I'm reserving judgment on the way he handled this until ALL the facts are known. Time will tell. Look, my goal is this, I want John Kerry to be inaugurated NOT Bush. And the only way that will happen is by demanding they pay attention to us, by MASSIVE PROTESTING. Sorry I'm not going along with the "flow" but the TRUTH needs to be said... Keep dreaming that another email will change outcome if you want. I am not stopping anyone. To each it's own. Just don't be surprised to see Bush still in office, despite all of your massive emailing.



[How about if we try massive windsurfing? That just might be the thing to do the trick!]



I've lost most of my respect for him. he lets these other people step up to his plate and have to do the dirty work of taking on these bastards. He sends a few shit ass attorneys who don't know their ass from an a frame. I think they did more harm than good. Kerry is letting Conyers and Cobb fight this battle for him and he thinks I would vote for him again? He's going to have to do something pretty damned spectacular for that. I don't think he has anything spectacular planned either. He is trying to passify us by acting like he's involved but not really getting involved. He's pandering. I'll take him over the Shrub but then again I would take Snoop and Manson over the shrub. Things could have been totally different if he had just stepped up immediately. We would have had an actual recount. Now it's almost 5 weeks later and most of the evidence is surely gone by now. He blew it.



[I guess this means you won’t be going windsurfing with Kerry any time soon.]



Kerry is strategically placing himself to run again in 2008. To me, he has betrayed his supporters. He should either come out strongly or announce he is not going to do anything. Having his lawyers file a lawsuit that can be disavowed later is very close to not doing anything.



[The Kerry Campaign thanks you for your input. And don’t forget to donate to the Kerry ’08 Committee. Thank you.]



Know What? If I were John Kerry I wouldn't want to lead a bunch of f*cking crybabies. Course, that isn't his reason. His reason is strategy and I'll be damned if we at DU have to explain this concept every f*cking day to somebody.



[Ah yes! Kerry’s secret strategy. And so smart the way he has kept it so carefully hidden from all to see, including himself.]


i chose to hold judgement until Dec. 13th. It is now time for judgement. Kerry is NOT the person he appears to be. he may have turned that boat around 30 years ago, but he is obviously no longer that man. I personally think that he threw this election and I'm coming to the conclusion that it is not a bad thing. That assface of a so called president has raped us raw. I don't blame Kerry for not wanting to enter a hornet's nest. But damn it to hell, he could use his position to help us bring the case of voting irregularities and outright fraud into the national stage. Why should we have to do it alone? What exactly do our elected officials stand for if we are the ones feeding them money AND have to do all the work too? And why the hell are so many democrats afraid of the MSM? who gives a shit what the hell they say. since when do we advocate walking on eggshells to appease the f*cking RW machine (i believe the palatable term for it is actually 'moderates').



[Ah yes! December 13. I remember it well. DUmmies jumping for joy that morning because of an insignificant letter bearing Kerry’s signature. That jubilation lasted until just a minute after the Electoral College cast the majority of its vote for Bush later that same day.



i am up for a fight. not a charade. i am flabbergasted. i truly thought there was some master plan but as time goes on, i'm finding them to be willfully complacent. it doesn't sit well with me either. i have things in my life that i need to address now that the election is over. i feel downright betrayed. i don't need anyone to "hold" my damn hand. but i do expect my politicians to hold to their words and show some freaking integrity. they promised a good fight and never delivered. they promised they would hold my interests above theirs and they didn't. i'm disgusted at our one party system.



[You actually thought that Kerry had some sort of post-election “master plan?” And how much money did YOU send to Bev Harris?]



we were scammed. Karl Rove's most brilliant moment. Deep down, we all knew it.



[A Perfect Rovian Storm! Thanx, DUmmie, for giving me the opportunity to post my favorite phrase.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-15-04 PM Edition ("Anti-Bev folks, please explain...")

Sorry for having yet another edition of the DUmmie FUnnies on the subject of Bev Harris following on the heels of the previous edition on the same topic but that con artist fascinates me. One thing about Bev Harris that I find so interesting is that she is not even a very good con artist. A really professional con artist would still be working the vote fraud scam undetected as to the nature of her true objective. However, Bev Harris is so nutty that she went overboard last month threating to sue various DUmmies for (gasp! shock!) typing the sacred letters “BBV.” A normal con artist would NEVER have alienated her marks like that. Also Bev just hasn’t developed the slick con artist demeanor. I heard her interviewed a couple of weeks ago on the radio by Steve Kane and her every word just dripped with dishonesty. A good con artist would have sounded completely believable. Therefore it is my premise that Bev Harris, being such an unprofessional con artist, could ONLY have scammed the incredibly gullible DUmmies desperate for the Ohio election results to be overturned. And yet, despite being generally acknowledged as a complete fraud, Bev Harris still has her defenders as you can see in the DUmmie THREAD titled, “Anti-Bev folks, please explain…” As usual, the gullible DUmmie fantasies are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent watching them being set up to be scammed yet again is in the [brackets]. And we open this edition now with a defense of Bev Harris by DUmmie Must_B_Free who should rename himself Must_B_Nuts:

Anti-Bev folks, please explain:

1. If Bev herself is a crazy fraud, why did the collectibe board of directors of BBV decide that Andy Stephenson was to be ousted? Are they ALL in on the conspiracy with Bev?



[You act like the board of directors of a scam outfit like BBV is composed of a bunch of folks with high moral character. They dumped Stephenson on Bev’s orders because that means they can divide the money cut among fewer people. BTW, it will ultimately turn out that all of the “board of directors” will be dumped by Bev so she can keep all the dough to herself.]


2. Why did Randi Rhodes say that Andy was no longer with BBV before either Bev or Andy knew this? Where did Randi get this information?


[Maybe Randi got the info from Andy himself who probably also recommended that Randi cop a plea so she won’t end up as an indicted co-conspirator in Bev’s upcoming fraud trial.]


3. Will you work to discredit the work of this organization when it is finally released?


[The work of that organization has only one real goal---the enrichment of Bev Harris.]


No work whatsoever is needed to discredit your protegee.


[Correct. No work whatever is needed to detect that Bev Harris is a sleazy con artist. Anybody with half a brain knew that from the get-go which is why you DUmmies were so easily conned by Bev.]



Embezzling thousands of DU-ers stealing people's work and threatening lawsuits, sliming many (by projecting her own vile traits) - a long list including Skinner, Olberman, Randi. DU in general - all this stuff doesn't seem to make an impression on you.



[She embezzled thousands of DUmmies? In that case, Bev can’t be all bad.]


Had Bev answered a single direct question regarding how much money had been collected or how it was being spent I might agree its too soon to call out possible embezzlement, but as she felt those on DU that helped raise the money don't deserve answers we are free to think and say what we like.


[By law Bev is REQUIRED to reveal how much money she suckered from you DUmmies. Since she hasn’t done this, it is only a matter of time until Bev is frog walked to the jailhouse door.]


You are new here Jamboi, I understand if you might have missed a lot of the history of Bev claiming she was $10 away from producing THE SMOKING GUN that would expose election fraud in the 2004 election.


[Bev is only $10 away from overturning the election? OMG!!! Send in that $10 NOW!!! The evil Bush regime is only $10 away from being toppled thanks to Bev Harris!]


I dont need o tell anyone here of whats at stake, perhaps a reminder of the enemy... We'll sue or praise Ms. Harris starting on the 21st of January.


[Methinks that the sue bit looks more and more like the likely option.]



Maybe We Should Change the name of this forum from 2004 election results and discussion to "hey, let's all talk about a big-boned attitudal unprofessional fraudulent greedy woman some more!"



[I must admit that it does sound like a very catchy forum title.]


So sorry she isn't up to Ann Coulter's beauty standards. Bev looks like an average American cuddly grandma. That's why it feels so surprising that she has such a crusade going.


[Actually it feels surprising that that “cuddly grandma” has such a scam going.]


This is tearing us apart, and that is making someone very happy.


[And that someone is everybody on the DUFU PING List.]


Bev is like DU's own LaToya Jackson. I have learned to trust my lying eyes and what I saw on Bev's site in regard to Andy closed the deal in my mind. If she can provide solid evidence that Bushco stole the election I am sure her champagne glass will never go dry! Until then, I will just watch her keep running into walls at full steam and then wondering why she has a headache.


[And Bev will be running into walls quite frequently in her new jail cell.]



I have not seen anything from her yet. She's always investigating but never seems to bring forth any proof for her allegations. Those Volusia county tapes she supposedly found in the garbage a few weeks ago should have been turned over for safe keeping to Conyers or Kerry's people, a long time ago. What pray tell, is she waiting for, if she is so concerned about preventing or prosecuting election fraud??????



[She is waiting for MORE MONEY of course.]


Many of us gave money we don't really have. All we wanted was some proof of her work. I am new to this, (but have read many of the posts detailing the past) put my faith in Bev, got most of my extended family to donate to her over Thanksgiving. It upsets me that she is reacting like she is. All I want is straight answers. That's all.


[How about wanting your money back, sucker?]


What's the deal with her? She will take all the help and money she can get from people but the second questions are raised she starts an all out smear campaign against them. I'll sit back and watch this bs play its self out.


[Watch Bev as she tries to hop a flight to Brazil to escape the rap.]


If she is helping then all you attacking her are the hinderance... if she IS a mole for Rove (which sounds like freep rummors to divide us) then SHE IS A DECOY...


[A Perfect Rovian Storm….WOO! HOO! I get to use that phrase again!!!]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-15-04 AM Edition (Randi Rhodes vs Bev Harris)

The cracks are widening over in DUmmieland as we have seen the past few days: a tinfoil hat Dummie comes up with a fantasy of being run off the road, an online petition to arrest Ken Blackwell by a DUmmie Posse is hijacked in a most hilarious way by Freepers, and now Randi Rhodes has slammed the former heroine of Dummieland---Bev Harris. Finally Randi, after shilling day after day for Bev Harris, is waking up to the fact that maybe, just maybe, Bev Harris is noting but a sleazy con artist. Of course, if Randi were paying attention to the DUmmie FUnnies she would have seen that we exposed BBV Bev as a con artist weeks ago. Too bad for her gullible listeners that Randi urged them to send in their money to Bev but, as the saying goes, there is a sucker (and DUmmie) born every minute. Now that Randi has confronted Bev Harris on the air, will she make amends to her listeners by refunding their money? Don’t hold your breath. Hopefully we can soon post the audio archive of Randi’s confrontation with Bev Harris. It should make for hilariously FUnnie listening. You can read the DUmmie comments on the Randi vs Bev encounter on this DUmmie THREAD titled, “Bev Harris is talking live on the Randi Rhodes Show.” To lead off this edition of the DUFUs, we shall see a statement by Bev Harris originally posted on her BBV website and later pulled out of embarrassment but now available on a rival BBV site HERE which lists the reasons why she fired her close aide, Andy Stephenson. As usual usual the befuddled DUmmie comments are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent is in the [brackets]:

Update: TUESDAY, DEC. 14, 2004: NOTICE

The six-member Board of Directors of Black Box Voting has unanimously voted to terminate the employment of Associate Director Andy Stephenson, for:

- Repeatedly lying to various members of the board of directors

- Misrepresenting results of investigations

- Mishandling telephone communications and withholding information

- Temper tantrums and hanging up on members of the organization

- Outburst at the Florida Supervisor of Elections meeting, offending public officials

- Failing to assist, show up, or even call while Kathleen Wynne and Bev Harris repeatedly reached him to request assistance when they were accosted by Volusia County police



[Yet more evidence, in addition to the on-air confrontation with Randi Rhodes, of the BBV Bev crackup. You’re all heart, Bev, for firing Andy Stephenson while he was attending his sister’s funeral. And what a class act by PUBLICLY posting the reasons why you are firing him. On that note, you should fire yourself, Bev, since it was YOU who had that outburst at the Florida Supervisor of Elections meeting in Orlando when you leaped up on stage and served a phony legal document to Teresa LePore and then videotaped the angry reaction of the election supervisors for that documentary that you’re not making. But let us now view the DUmmie reactions to Randi Rhodes slamming Bev Harris on Err America Radio yesterday….]



Randi mentioned DU. And that people stated they were unable to get in touch with her



[Did Randi mention that the DUmmies were the biggest suckers of them all for the Bev Harris con game?]


I knew there were problems when DU banned her.


[Yeah, Bev Harris got banned from DUmmieland but only AFTER she scammed a big load of dough from you suckers.]


Randi said Andy said he wasn't working with Bev anymore?!


[Of course not. The BBV money train has dried up and Bev had to dump Andy and then smear him on her website so DUmmie folks would think that the lack of results by BBV were ALL his fault. It’s called creating a scapegoat.]



I've heard from multiple sources that he got the same poor treatment many of her previous helpers receieved.



[Look for mass firings soon at BBV. Bev has to hoard all that cash for herself.]



Randi is basting her... Next she's gonna fry her up...



[Gee! Maybe Randi should have done her homework weeks ago on what a crook Bev Harris is and she could have saved her listeners lots of money which they sent to Bev due to all the shilling by Randi.]


"We donated all this money, of course I'm gonna follow up." -- Randi


[Yeah, Randi. You do that. You follow up that money trail all the way to the 5 star hotel suites that Bev has been luxuriating in thanx to your shilling for her on the air.]


sorry if I'm shooting at the hip here, I don't mean to insult anyone, but Bev put the fricken E voting fraud up front when no one else before her was able to the extent she did. She has been working her arse off and getting incoming hostilities from all fronts.
but this is just my opinion, and wtf do I know, except you don't eat your own kind.


[Yeah. WTF do you know, except that Bev has been eating caviar thanx to all you DUmmie SUCKERS. Oh, and don’t forget to send even more money to Bev.]



IT IS NOT THE MONEY--it is the lost opportunity and lost credibility! Whatever went on in Florida may never be known if Bev is not following through, is over her head, and will not communicate with others nor delegate for help! This may not be the case, but all indications to me now are that it probably is. And I don't give a damn about the $$, even though I gave money I really could not afford. It is that we may well have lost an irretrievable opportunity and that may ultimately hurt our cause in a very real and very painful way.



[I’ll tell you what went on in Florida. Bev Harris was getting full body massages in 5 star hotel suites thanx to all that money you sent to her.]


Bev is not following through. Kerry hasn't either (as it appeared for a time), and I don't see quite the vitriole spewed in his direction the way Bev is getting it. Easier to blame the lil gal, I guess.


[That’s because Kerry is merely sitting on his $15 million campaign cash stash while stiffing his former campaign workers.]


I don't agree with the accusation that Bev is using the money to make a movie. I'm pretty sure she isn't making a movie, other people are following her and making the movie.


[Technically she isn’t making a movie. Her claim is that she isn’t making a DOCUMENTARY. BTW, I hope Bev includes an audio from her confrontation with Randi in that documentary she isn’t making.]


remember this gem from Bev posted right here at DU?

This was my work product, folks. My research. My time. My publicity efforts. My proofing. My structural editing (didn't get that, either). My fact checking. My Pulitzer-Prize deserving work.


[LOL! “….My con job.”]



Bev seemed surprised when Randi said that Andy was no longer working with her, but did not deny it, suggesting there is proably something going on. She was very coy about discussing Andy, but seemed to have been caught up in a less than truthful response when she implied Andy had been gone for some time with his sister's funeral and not available--and then Randi mentioned having spoken to him the very day he left for the funeral. The gist seemed to suggest that Andy's absence was being blamed for any confusion going on right now but that did not seem logical, when Randi indicated she'd been able to talk to him all along and not to Bev. ????



[Bev giving a less than truthful response? I’m shocked! SHOCKED!]



Bev's response was NOT bizarre. She said there was a death in his family. I think she also said he's still working with her. What's wierd about that?



[Nothing…except for the fact that Bev publicly fired Andy on her BBV website yesterday in a most humiliating manner.]


Randi: "We donated all this money to you, of course I'm going to follow up"

She doesn't seem to be coordinated with anyone in charge of the Ohio recount. I predict this will be Bev Harris' last appearance on the Randi Rhodes Show.


[Bev, We Hardly Knew Ye.”]



Bev is sounding very very evasive. Sorry, but she is dodging Randis questions right and left.



[i.e. Bev is sounding like her usual self. And how much money did she con from YOU?]


I don't think Bev knows what she's doing- or is she just scamming us?


[Scamming you? Where did you get such a SILLY idea?]



Wow, Randi is really tearing into her, and brought up that people at DU are upset with her!



[WE WANT OUR MONEY BACK!!! WE WANT OUR MONEY BACK!!!]


and the freepers are lapping all this up like cream....


[YEESSSSSSSS!!!!]


tough shit about what the damn freepers think


[We think you DUmmies are a bunch of suckers who got easily conned out of your money by a not-so-slick scam artist.]



"We've called you any number of times and haven't gotten anything." -- Randi.

"I haven't gotten any calls from you." -- Bev.

"Oh yes you have." -- Randi. "Get it together."



[LOL! I’ve GOT to get the audio of this encounter!]


Oh my, she's screaming! Called Bev a liar.


[PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! Somebody out there send me the link to this audio! A GREAT radio moment!!!]



I'm actually starting to feel sorry for Bev. Randi mentioned Olbermann, DU. Randi chewing Bev out for not being at the hearings in Ohio.



[Have some compassion for Bev, Randi. Maybe there were no 5 star hotels in the vicinity of those hearings.]



Bev doesn't trust ANYONE which is why she tries to do it all herself. Which is Why she hasn't really accomplished anything since she blew her original team off.



[UGH! What a horrifying vision! Bev Harris blowing her original team off. YECCCHHHHH!!!]



Randi was obnoxious and repulsive today. I am shocked that she went ON AND ON AND ON AND ON. I did NOT like her show today at all.



[Randi was obnoxious and repulsive? So it was just a normal show.]



Randi asked why Bev was not at the hearings. Bev responded that she asked someone, "where do you want me to be?" Randi asked, "Who did you ask?" Bev evaded her question then Randi basically cut off the call. Wow.



[Bev couldn’t send anyone to the hearings. She has to hoard her ever diminishing cash flow.]



Randi has every right to be harsh. She drummed up lots and lots Of donations for Bev, and it seems as if Bev hasn't done very much for it. Not only that, but not getting back to Randi's calls.



[Sooooo….. When will Randi be refunding all that money that she shilled for the con artist?]


I was there and Bev Harris was NOT at the Ohio hearings.


[But perhaps Bev’s film crew was at the Ohio hearings to videotape for that documentary that she’s not making.]



I've wondered what's up with Bev Harris lately, I donated $ when Randy made her pleas a few weeks back. Bev has been pissing off people lately (Keith Olberman sp? last week) what's up with that?



[Why don’t you call up Randi Rhodes and ask if you will be given a sucker refund?]



Yup. She was unable to directly answer any question. Something is very, very wrong there. She acted like a teenage kid caught stealing and trying to cover it up.



[So all you DUmmies got suckered by someone acting like a teeniebopper?]



This is the end. Bev Harris is finished as a voting activist as of this moment.



[This is the end, Beautiful friend.

This is the end, My only friend, the end.

Of our elaborate plans, the end

Of everything that stands, the end

No safety or surprise, the end.]




Randi is ripping her a new one... she's being far too offensive Randi needs to take a couple muscle relaxers or something sometimes



[Ex-Lax should do the trick.]



WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH RANDI??? There was a previous caller ....a man who was REALLY trying to make his point. He was polite but you could tell he was getting frustrated because EVERY TIME HE OPENED HIS MOUTH.......RANDI ROAD ALL OVER HIM. She did the same thing with BEV. I wanted to hear what Bev had to say......not listen to Randi Rant and Rave. Randi turned me off tonight BIG TIME. She was unprofessional and stupid.



[Somewhere deep in the swamp of Dummieland, a dim light ever so briefly clicks on above the tiny head of a DUmmie.]


I agree sometimes she goes overboard but that does not discredit her message. And the message today was, where have you been Bev and what progress have you made? Let us help you Bev... What do you need Bev?... If your duping my listeners Bev, I will find out.



[So now that Randi has found out that Bev was duping her listeners, will Randi offer refunds for all the money she shilled on Bev’s behalf?]


I was never clear as to why Randi was banging the donation drum for Bev's group, and unfortunately never heard her myself. It seemed to me that Randi got it in her head that Bev had something to do with the recounts . Meanwhile Bev seemed perfectly happy to soak it all up without bothering to set the record straight about who, exactly, was doing what.


[I’ll set the record straight for you on who was doing what. Bev Harris (the Who) was luxuriating in a 5 star hotel suite editing a documentary (the What) that she’s not making.]


Randi asked us all to donate money, and we did.


[SUCKERS!!!]


Randi Rhodes kicked Bev's ass because that is what is obviously required at this juncture. We need people like Randi, screaming really loud, because the squeaky wheel gets the oil, and everything, I mean everything is at stake here people, our lives, our children's lives, everything. Bev deserved everything she got.

Bev Harris is grandstanding at the wrong time in history, this is way too important. If there are people here, from what I read and hear, that were instrumental in her getting started or helping her get her efforts off the ground who are they? They need to step forward and take over if possible or find out what's going on. Bev herself is actually doing damage to this cause, and is using up whatever credibility she had left. She didn't even know Andy wasn't working with her anymore for f**k's sake. Tryed to tell Randi that he had a death in his family and has been away, when Randi talked to him the same day his sister died and knew he had only been away for the day of the funeral and was back to work. That's what I heard anyway. This is too soap opera for words.

Bev Harris had plenty of time in the interview before Randi got steamed,to answer a question, she was just evasive from the jump. Nobody can get through to her by phone or message, there must be something wrong with her phone, something wrong with her answering machine, CNN rings once and then hangs up..... and the dog ate my homework. What the f**k. This is a person who we were relying on to be a spokesperson for a vital cause, and she is screwing up. When 10 people are all telling you the same thing, I tried to reach you and no response, I think maybe the 10 people saying the same thing are telling the truth and the other person just might be the one with the problem.

Randi said Bev wasn't reachable on her email account either. KO says she wasn't reachable. People on this site who have gotten her on the phone say she is in a narcissistic snit half the time and doesn't want anyone else to help, and is verbally abusive to them to boot.

I didn't know her before all of this happened, apparently lots of people do, and perhaps she was once great, and groundbreaking, and reliable, but now.......... sorry, got to say Randi's right, she is a flake. I don't care about the money I've donated (although I sure could use it) as long as she was doing everything necessary and appropriate in the usage of that money to further the cause, which is exposing fraud in this election before it's too late, period. She disappears for days and weeks at a time, appears on DU, threatens to sue people who are helping her and have helped her in the past, misses out on getting information to the congress people conducting hearings. Says no one called to invite her to the hearings, she needed a personal invitation?

Randi is just asking questions any reasonable person would ask and she's asking them in a way that is true to her personality. Randi is from Brooklyn. Maybe some of you don't know people from Brooklyn, let me just tell you, when you get people from Brooklyn pissed off, watch out (no, I'm from Queens originally, similar feistiness) Brooklyn rocks.

Bev just tried to get around answering the questions in a straightforward manner, and was being evasive. Randi'a apparently been trying to reach her, with no luck, and is angry with reason. KO said Bev was abusive to his staff. Randi feels like she went out on a limb, out of passion for this issue, and got people to donate money to this woman, many of us who were not even familiar with Bev's background, and only did so because we trusted Randi's advice. When she flaked out, after being given any number of chances to come to the plate, Randi saw red. I don't blame her at all.

The news about the Diebold machines calling out to the IP address at some mystery company, instead of being hacked into, sounded promising. I hope she is really pursueing it, if she has posted technical info that she says she needs help with why doesn't anyone know about it, or do they? Why wasn't she trying to tell anyone about it. What was she waiting for, why didn't she take advantage in a positive, professional manner of the media outlets offered to her. Randi asked what she could do to help tonight, I heard her, and I just heard Bev prevaricating and avoiding answering again and again.





[And speaking of soap operas, this Randi Rhodes vs Bev Harris feud is way more ENTERTAINING than any soap opera on the tube!]


How many times do people have to get smacked in the head before they start wondering who's smacking them?
Bev was great friends with David Allen, then she wasn't. David became the enemy.

Bev was great friends with Roxanne, then she wasn't. Roxanne became the enemy.

Bev was great friends with Olbermann, then she wasn't. Olbermann became the enemy.

Bev was great friends with DU, then she wasn't. DU became the enemy.

Bev was great friends with Randi Rhodes, then she wasn't. Randi became the enemy.

And the topper - Bev had a loyal, supportive friend in Andy Stephenson. Then her most trusted associate became the enemy, at the time of his deepest grief.

Anyone who doesn't see a pattern here better get their head examined, IMO. It's too goddam obvious for all of these fine people to be wrong and Bev Harris, only Bev Harris to be right.

Who's been smacking everyone in the head here???



[And how many times did Bev smack YOU in the wallet?]


Randi in next segment- "Bev- if you're using our money to make your movie- we're gonna find out!" Randi's pissed and so am i.


[Bev Harris is NOT making a documentary. We have her word on that and we can believe Bev, can’t we?]



I think I just saw my $$ donation go down a black hole.....forget the blackbox. Ahhh Bev......are you naturally self destructive or a con girl?



[A self-destructive con girl enjoying that $$ donation you tossed tossed down a black hole…sucker.]


...Randi put the call out to the listeners and got thousands of people to contribute to the BBV fund - myself included - and if that were me, I'd feel responsible too - and really pissed off. Not putting words into her mouth, but... yeah. That was a lot of money.


[So will Randi be sending out refunds to everyone who got scammed due to her shilling for Bev? I’m not holding my breath waiting.]



Could Bev be a Rove plant? Set up to distract from the real election fraud? Just wondering...



[A Perfect Rovian Storm…. I just LOVE getting that phrase in!]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-14-04 (DUmmie Posse Plans To Arrest Ken Blackwell)

The DUmmies have watched too many episodes of Gunsmoke. They are now planning on forming up a posse and arresting Ohio Secretary of State, Ken Blackwell as you can see on this DUmmie THREAD titled, “Here is a specific Ohio law Blackwell violated--I need help getting arrest.” Yeah, DUmmies, you just try to arrest Blackwell. Somehow I don’t think he will just stand idly by as you try to cuff him. Most likely he will grab you by your collars and slap you upside your heads so hard that you will be spending the next few weeks envisioning your own reality of a long hospital stay…except when you wake up you will find out you really are in the hospital. Anyway, if for some reason, Bush has a hard time finding another director of Homeland Security, may I humbly place the name of Ken Blackwell forward? He would be PERFECT for the job. Somebody who won’t take crap from the terrorists nor the DUmmies (often interchangeable). As usual the rantings of the DUmmie Posse are in Bolshevik Red while the arresting commentary of your humble sheriff is in the [brackets]:

"Blackwell decided to stop the legal recount being conducted in Greene County Ohio, in mid-count. When the volunteers asked under what authority they were being stopped they were told that Ken Blackwell had determined that “all voter records for the state of Ohio were “locked-down,” and now they are not considered public records.”


So, now that we have the specific crime Blackwell committed, what do we do to get a DA to file charges?






[You might start by smoking less powerful opiates.]



Preferably find a friendly lawyer and talk to the local DA...



[You will find Mark Geragos to be quite friendly and in need of employment. You can contact him at snottyscotty@deathrow.com.]


Round up about 100 or so willing people to help perform a citizen's arrest. Warn the police and DA that if they don't act to arrest Blackwell, then your posse will. Don't give them a chance to respond, just inform them. Then go do it. They'll have him arrested lickety-split in order to avoid a confrontation.


[Don’t forget to wear your Deputy Dawg cowboy outfits when joining the posse. And don’t be surprised if YOU are arrested lickety-split for those illegal green leaves in your pockets.]



And record it all on video for posterity's sake including the phone calls, preparation, everything.



[And have Bev Harris on hand to film it for that documentary she’s not making.]



This is a perfect stunt for Michael Moore to take on...Let's contact him and ask him to do it!



[You’ll make Bev Harris very angry. She has first dibs to film it for that documentary she’s not making.]



the part where you're all getting billy-clubbed,maced,tasered,rubber-bulleted,and stomped by black-outfitted and masked stormtrooper types will make a hell of a segment in a Michael Moore flick.



[Also for America’s Funniest Home Videos.]


I am not sure how Ohio law works, so hopefully there are some lawyers here that could provide feedback (I've never had to file charges through the DA's office either--anybody know if it is hard?) Thanks again for everybody's input into this--I am thinking we should try to get in contact with the volunteers in Greene County and see if they are willing to file a complaint with the DA (anybody know if this sounds reasonable?)


[It sounds very very reasonable. Now speak some more. This therapy session is still far from over.]



What if they don't do it? Then what are you going to do after you "arrest" him?



[Nurse the bruises on your cheeks where your faces “accidentally” smacked up against Blackwell’s hand.]


The line between "posse" and "mob" is precariously thin. I imagine to the Ohio government that it is nonexistent. If you're lucky, they'll tell you to fuck off and go home. If you're unlucky, then the Ohio NG will be called out to "disperse the mob." I trust the pecadillos of the Ohio national guard need no elaboration.


[Wrong. If you are unlucky, Ken Blackwell will shove your arrest warrant so far up your body cavity that you will be singing alto permanently.]


I would much prefer if John Kerry would step in make the arrest.


[That would happen only if Teresa gives him permission to remove his cojones from her wall lockbox.]



Freepers have gotten to your petition! Every signature on it is from a FREEPER! G-d I HATE those people! With every fiber of my being, I hate those people..



[Your hate against the Freepers will turn to uncontrollable rage once you read the latest edition of the DUmmie Funnies…. And may I add you to the DUFU PING List?]


I signed that petition. How do you know they are all freepers?


[Because most likely at least 90% of all DUmmies are secretly Freeper Trolls. And how do I know that YOU are not a Freeper?]



Here's a small sample. This morning there was 55 sigs and most were like these. I removed names that seem to be legitimate.


Name City, State

33. Mark Johnson - I post at DUmmieUnderground. I am not real bright. Please save the DUmbocracy. democraticunderground.com

32. Tiffany Sledzianowski - I post at DUmmieUnderground. I am not real bright. Please save the DUmbocracy. democraticunderground.com

31. Joshua L. Bessom - I post at DUmmieUnderground. I am not real bright. Please save the DUmbocracy. democraticunderground.com

27. berni_mccoy - I post at DUmmieUnderground. I am not real bright. Please save the DUmbocracy. democraticunderground.com

26. I voted! Where is my vote? I wrote in Pat Buchanan and this does not match the official totals. One chance in two billion of that happening! democraticunderground.com

25. uninformed republican fool trying to obscure the truth fact vs faith

24. Save the DUmbocracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! democraticunderground.com


21. Arneback - The case is breaking wide open. I talked to the Ohio Chief Justice. He laughed and then presided over the casting of Ohio's electoral votes. Why did he laugh???? democraticunderground.com


19. Jesse Jackson Please donate to Rainbow?PUSH. My illigitimate children need shoes bad! democraticunderground.com

18. Send your money to Cobb. He reaaly needs it. Use your credit card and go into dept. It is WORTH it! democraticunderground.com


16. Donate to Nader. He needs our money bad! democraticunderground.com

15. DUmmieUnderground.com Help us vote! We do not understand how! I am still in line in Dayto Ohio. Kenneth Blacwell ate my baby! Confusion


13. Bev Harris Donate to me at BigMacVoting.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BigMacVoting.com


11. Admin@democraticunderground.com (Donate to DUmmieUnderground.com) Please, helpme. I am still in line waiting to cast my balot. DUmmieunderland.com

10. Skinner (Donate to DUmmieUnderground.com) Please, I am broke and my childeen are hungry. DUmmieunderland.com




[Hmmm…. I see your point but I think this one sounds legit: “Tiffany Sledzianowski - I post at DUmmieUnderground. I am not real bright. Please save the DUmbocracy. democraticunderground.com.”]


You are correct--how can we screen out the freeperpeepers?


[How do you know that Skinner isn’t really a Freeper? Only IndianaGreen is legit. You can trust him. Absolutely. IndianaGreen is definitely NOT a deep cover Freeper troll. (hee! hee!)]


Jesus H. Christ! Did you see what the freepers did to that petition?


[As God is my witness, as God is my witness, I’m not going to sign another DUmmie petition again! I'm going to live through this and when it's all over, I'll never sign one again! No, nor any of my folk. If I have to lie, steal, cheat or kill! As God is my witness, I'll never sign a DUmmie petition again!]


If we are afraid to act, we are being ruled by fear. The only way this ends possitively is for some to overcome their fears.


[But what if you are ruled by ridicule?]


From what I have been reading, it is probably best to go to the DA's office first and try to file charges. I am not sure how that process works in Ohio, so maybe if we have any lawyers that are reading you could help? Somebody said that freeperpeepers were signing the above petition? Do you think that if you bring a signed petition to DA's office it might motivate them to want to take action?


[If you bring that petition signed by “freeperpeepers,” the folks in the DA’s office most likely will laugh their asses off.]



I signed petition and I Am NOT A FREEPER. By the way, this is the first time I've posted...I signed the petition and I am not a freeper,,,I just want justice.



[I signed the petition and I Am NOT A FREEPER!!! (snort! chuckle!)]


F*CK THE SUIT! He is a criminal!! He needs to be jailed!


[But you’re just gonna let someone ELSE try to jail him, hotshot.]



About the petition--it has some facts wrong. I sent the petition over to my friend for analysis. Here is what she says:


"The petition gets a lot wrong. For instance, the Greene County recount had not begun when this occurred. They were doing research for the recount, which is another thing entirely, and which blows the whole petition out of the water as a result. I wouldn't recommend circulating the petition, as the only real use of something like this is as a PR ploy, and that will backfire because of the misinformation involved. No, the DA's office wouldn't be motivated by a petition like this."



[BANG!!! Yet another Acme Co. package blows up in the DUmmie Coyote’s face while the Blackwell Road Runner zooms untouched off into the distance. BEEP! BEEP!]



Here's the catch: the records were being examined by Green volunteers while the law requires a DEMOCRAT and a REPUBLICAN both to be present during the recont examinations. Since there were none present only the Greens, they decided to take the records away.



[BEEP! BEEP!]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-14-04 AM Edition (Tinfoil Hat DUmmie "Run" Off The Road)

Does anybody here remember the infamous Michael Rivero? He used to post at the Free Republic and came up with so many conspiracy theories that he became a running joke due to his multitude tinfoil hat theories. Eventually he was kicked off the Free Republic and if you are wondering what happened to Mr. Tinfoil Hat, I now have the answer for you: Rivero has teamed up with the DUmmies and is now running a website with tons of Ohio Vote fraud conspiracty theories over at WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM. Among the bizarre conspiracy theories over at that website is an affidavit by one Katrina Sumner that you can find HERE where she makes a whole federal case over the fact that while working at the Greene County, OH Board Of Elections desperately looking for evidence of voter fraud, one of the lights was left on overnight along with an unlocked door. And for this she writes up a whole affidavit. BUT WAIT! THERE’S MORE! Shortly afterwards, Ms Sumner claims that she was run off the road by two dark blue Suburbans with dark tinted windows. Since this was posted on Michael Rivero’s website, I am a bit disappointed that she didn’t claim that she was run off the road by two black helicopters. You can find the reaction to this “crime of the century” on this DUmmie THREAD titled, “Katrina Sumner, Greene County - followed, run off road.” As usual, the tinfoil hat DUmmie theories are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, watching from above in a black helicopter, is in the [brackets]. And now, as the curtain opens on this edition of the DUFUs, we lead off with Katrina Sumner’s breathless account of being run off the road by big bad rightwingers:

Last night I was returning from Columbus and was scared out of my mind. First I've been getting calls from a man that has been able to tell me each and every place I've been or roads I've been traveling on (a group of 3 other women heard this while driving me to meet Jesse Jackson and Cliff Arnebeck last night, having the call on speaker). Then while driving back I was ran off the road by two dark blue Suburbans(?), bigger than 4 runners anyway, with dark tinted windows. They came up behind me with their brights on and then one came to the side of me and ran me into the ditch off I-70. I saw as they sped away that one had a Maryland license plate, but in the heat of it all I couldn't get the plate number or even see the plate of the other one. It's becoming apparent to me that someone is not liking what I'm doing. So thank you much cause I truly need the encouraging words.



[And have you also checked your breath for dioxin? Yeah, your work looking for fraud at the Greene County Board of Elections is so threatening to the regime of George W. Bush that they had to run you off the road. Your affidavit WINS the Drama Queen award.]


Send this to AP!!!


[I can see the headline already: “Tinfoil Hat DUmmie Run off the Roadway of her Mind!”]



. OMG that's terrible-- these guys are truly dangerous. This isn't worth losing one's life over. These guys are POISON



[And tinfoil hat Katrina needs to also allege that she was poisoned by dioxin. See, the DUmmies like to compare what is happening here to the Ukraine and since Yuschenko was both run off the road AND poisoned by dioxin, Katrina should also claim to be a victim of both.]



what did you think?... this is serious stuff ppl... takes courage!..thats why no one in streets yet, they are scared but will stand if others do! I am standing, Ive been to rallies.. where are all you!



[Where are we? Sitting Drama Queen acting class.]



Actually, if you think about it, this is the very cause that many, many people gave their lives to protect. I'm not saying I want to die on the road because of a redneck in a giant SUV, but the cause is definitely worth it. My kids WILL grow up in a democracy.



[Your kids WILL grow up to be Drama Queens.]



If this is true, and I don't doubt it, somebody needs to be providing protection for these people.



[Just because Katrina Sumner also filed a tinfoil hat affidavit posted on Michael Rivero’s tinfoil hat website, why should we doubt the veracity of her claim about being run off the road?]


Welcome to the real world of politics. It's been since the sixties since we've seen these blatant tactics. But it may escalate. Hold onto your hats!


[Hold onto your tinfoil hats!]


someone needs to get this woman protection! There are no words for the evil that these bastards are capable of.
Thank goodness Katrina is okay!!!


[The evil that men do lives after them;

The good is oft interred with their bones.]





I'm glad this little lady is okay! But, OMG! This is a CLEAR sign that we are digging in the right place! Bastards!



[Yes! That light left on at the Green County Board of Elections office is the KEY to bringing down the fascist Bush regime!]



The Kerry phone bank worker knows Mike Rivero. Someone here has her cell phone from last weekend's events. I don't remember who. They can call her and confirm.



[Yes. They can call her and confirm that Michael Rivero in the leading Mad Tinfoil Hatter on the Web.]



dude...you really need to stop and think before you spout off "Hurry, send to MSM!!! Send to AP!!!" at every little piece of news that is unsubstantiated/unsupported.



[You want a fact check? LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]


Tell them - the worst that could happen is they will print a story about paranoid people telling them about cloak and dagger stuff.


[Actually the worst that could happen is that Katrina Sumner would end up as a laughingstock on the DUmmie FUnnies.]



A Hoax? Wouldn't it be a Rove move to fabricate stories like this & then scream SEND IT TO THE AP! It would make the movement look like a bunch of tin hat wearing crazies, imagining big outrageous things.



[A Perfect Rovian Storm. Not sure exactly what that means but it sure does sound kewl.]



Karen Silkwood was murdered by being run off the road...Considered who and what we're dealing with, it is not inconceivable that someone is trying to harm her.



[Meryl Streep starring as Katrina Sumner! And notice how Karen Silkwood and Katrina Sumner have the same initials! Plus Streep does some great Drama Queen acting! I loved how Streep herself almost destroyed the apple industry by doing a Drama Queen bit about the supposed dangers of alar on apples.]



Someone needs to tell Katrina to start packing and carry a video camera to take footage of these people's cars!



[And keep that video camera running at all times while driving. You just never know when fascist rightwingers will try to run you off the road.]



Rent the movie Silkwood. *If* I remeber correctly, she was a wistleblower concerning improper handling of nuclear material. That's a big grain of salt with on the wistleblower part, it's been a while.



[And Silkwood was run off the road too! My apologies to Katrina Sumner. I thought she was imitating the Ukrainian candidate but now I see she was really imitating Karen Silkwood.]


first thing that came to my mind - Silkwood.


[And the first thing that comes to my mind – Bev Harris. She can recreate that running off the road scene for that documentary that she keeps claiming she isn’t making.]



this is what Rove does when he's cornered...His cons are more subtle...



[A Perfect Rovian…DAMN! I already used that line. Too bad. I really like it.]


Yes, it would be like Rove...!! Until we *know*, we must *lay low*!!


[Yes, lay low for 4 years in a spider hole until the Perfect Rovian Storm passes. Please FORGIVE ME!!! I just HAD to use that line one more time!]



It tells me we are getting to the SOB's Girlie men need to run a lone woman off the road, that's real manly. What a bunch of wimps.



[Are you sure Ann Coulter wasn’t one of the drivers?]


But we can't expect this poor woman to put her life in danger


[I say put Ms Sumner into the Witness Protection Program and hide her out in a 5 star hotel suite with Bev Harris.]



Really though.. Call and confirm what? If this is her e-mail, then I'm sure she'll confirm her story.. But with no other witnesses, no tag #'s, no anything what is this going to do?



[Nothing except provide for some great tinfoil hat comedy material.]


Look at follow-up e-mail All I's. Run into a ditch w/ 3 other women. "I was ran off"..."I couldn't get the license plate #"..... anyone hurt? Becareful. There are Rovian sabateurs trying to work there magic.


[A Perfect Rovian…Oops! There I go again!]



Correction

I jusr re-read that she was alone coming back. But....where'd the other 3 women go? Hitchhiking?



[Yes and they caught a ride with Karl Rove.]



Police Report? If she was run off Interstate 70 at 65 MPH there would be car damage and a police accident report. Post it and we're off to the races. Without it...its a Rovian ploy.



[That’s not true! It is NOT a Rovian ploy. Instead it is a Perfect Rovian Storm! HA! I worked that phrase in yet again!]



She can't go to the police! They are obviously in on it. They are probably reading this forum.



[Either that or the police are entertaining themselves by reading about it on the DUmmie FUnnies. Hmmm…. Need to check to see if there is an “OhioCop” on my PING List.]



Well Katrinie, better start packing you some heat like the dawgie dog a hogleg I believe those rednicks refer to it as. Boomboom stick! Watch out bitches, cause I ain't putt'n up wit no shit! I hate that dawgie dog dude! and his stupid wife!



[A sea change over in DUmmieland. Now they are big gun rights supporters!]



My family and I think....these two vehicles were issued from Cheneys 'Shadow Government' motorpool. Hey, I guess Cheney's undisclosed location is now confirmed to be in Maryland.



[Attack of the Killer SUVs!]



I have tried to call her and I have tried to text her phone but no answer yet. I'm sure that we will hear something soon.



[Katrina is currently busy watching cable reruns of Capricorn One.]


I've done welfare checks in other states, countries on my support list for families dealing with stuff. I'm going to stay up until we hear something. Hopefully, she's dozing. And although it's hard to take in, these folks will do anything not to ruin their fraudulent Stepford world. I just hope (smile) that we aren't all calling her and disrupting her rest. But, knowing the volunteers have appropriate security is a priority.


[And for coming up with that great phrase, “Fraudulent Stepford World,” I shall reward you by promising that your welfare check next month will arrive on time.]


Getting run off the road is true?


[As true as Professor Kerri Dunn of Claremont College being a victim of a hate crime in the form of her car being spray painted with graffiti.]


If the vehicles touched, then she has paint evidence.


[Evidence? EVIDENCE? We don’t need no stinkin’ evidence!]


she needs to report this to the police to have any credibility.


[Credibility? CREDIBILITY? We don’t need no stinkin’ credibility!]


If she contacts the police, she's just as likely to be arrested…


[…for filing a false report.]



Olbermann should know about it. His blog today made the goings-on in Ohio sound like the Keystone Kops-- in fact, he might have used that term. For those of you too young to know what it means, it's just the image of a bunch of bungling cops falling all over each other-- it's a funny image. But there's nothing funny about an attempt made on one's life. He should know-- even if he doesn't publish it-- so he will see that this is SERIOUS stuff.



[Ah! Keith Oblbermann. The tinfoil hat flack.]



Possible that they are tracking her with GPS? She said they can tell her everywhere she has been or every road she has been on. My guess is that either they somehow put a GPS device on her car or she has a cell phone with GPS and it is on. My friend's work gave him a Nextel cell phone and told him the GPS was not enabled, but contrary to what his boss said, he was able to ping his cell phone and tell where it was (gave him his house address). With GPS, even a hobbyist would be able to tell her where she has been and what roads she has travelled.



[No need to worry. All tinfoil hats can be traced via GPS. Why at this very moment I can tell the exact location in Yo-Yo Land where Michael Rivero is frothing.]



Her car is pretty easy to spot. It has a unique feature if you know what you are looking for.



[Wheels?]



Katrina, you are a real American hero, and I and many other people are profoundly grateful to you for your work. Please know that we are all with you in spirit wherever you go! There are thousands of us cheering you on, and millions of Americans who would thank you if they knew what you were doing.

During the voting rights campaign in Alabama in 1965, each of us had a card in our pocket with the phone number of a local ACLU lawyer, a number to alert the voting project headquarters in Atlanta of any trouble, and an FBI number. (In those days, we believed that, with a President in the White House who supported voting rights, we had federal protection. You may not want to trust the FBI these days. I wouldn't. )

My point is that we were organized and had backup for dealing with emergencies, since our lives were always in danger. Three civil rights workers had been slain in the South the previous summer, and still, in 1965, there was intimidation, followings (by both local sheriffs and white thugs), phony and scary arrests, and the constant threat of violence.

The most important safety factor is to have a network of people knowing where you are at all times--people at each end of your travels who are waiting for you, or who expect you to contact them when you get there. Another is NOT to travel alone--the bigger the group the better. A third is to create an alert system--it's easier these days with cell phones--a phone number, that, if you call it, it instantly signals trouble--whether you can say anything or not.

These are three simple things you can do for your own safety--and it sure looks like EVERYONE working on Election Fraud in Ohio should be advised to implement these and other safety measures.

ALSO: the groups, organizers and attorneys who are involved should actively take on the security issue, and provide information, advice and backup. DON'T LET PEOPLE SHINE THIS ON! It is very serious.

And, yes, Congressman Conyers, and other persons in positions of power, should absolutely be notified that this has occurred. The whole blogging community now knows about it --which is much to the good. Publicity is most definitely a safety measure.

Something others have pointed out in this thread--that you should remember: The work you are doing is extremely threatening to the criminals who stole this election, or these thugs wouldn't be trying to intimidate you.

Please know that we are hugely admiring of your courage, and we are WITH you!



[And we shall remain WITH you always in Yo-Yo Land!]



CAPITALIZE ON THE STORY-POLICE REPORT+PRESS PRESS PRESS

First, no more phone numbers and travel plans on the gawddamn internet where the nazi wolves are watching!!!!!!!

This is a matter of life and death and BIG POWER at stake in the election so don't be naive about who we are up against.

1)Travel in groups and several vehicles.

2)Police report with evidence from vehicle contact and witnesses.

3)Tell all the press possible. THIS IS A STORY THEY CAN RUN WITH!

4)Keep up the good work and SURVIVE. THEN TELL THE STORY LOUD AND CLEAR WITH EVIDENCE.

This is too important to f*ck up AND get killed over.



[5) Hide out in a spider hole. THEN SURVIVE UNTIL THE LITHIUM TREATMENT ARRIVES!]


Katrina. Now may be the time to get yourself a handgun and learn how to use it. If you are fighting these assholes don't go into it thinking that good will will win the day. Take care of yourself. They are trying to intimidate you at this stage. Having a Smith and Wesson in easy reach will give you a sense of calm and them something to think twice about if you fire off a few rounds when a situation develops.



[A DUmmie and his anti-gun stance is easily parted.]


You expect a woman with a handgun to go up against a couple of tinted-window monster SUV's with Maryland plates? That would be suicide. Whoever's in those vehicles are certainly trained and armed men who would take her out in a second. Your sense of calm would be a false sense of security. I would suggest she drive always with another car or two escorting her, as many witnesses as possible, with videocameras ready to go all the time. And have her car inspected for a GPS device. They probably planted one on it somewhere.


[Attack of the Killer SUVs….but I repeat myself. But now let us hear the account of this incident posted on this thread by Katrina Sumner herself posting as DUmmie katalyst…]



The part about being with 3 other women.. that was in another car while I was in Columbus. The being driven off the road.. happened on my way back to Beavercreek in my car. My car nor I had any damage, just to clear that up. I came to a screeching halt sliding slightly in the gravel at the edge of the road which took me into the grass of the ditch. It wasn't a deep ditch of sorts, so nothing major there. No police report was filed. Why? I think that could only hurt me more than do any good. My friends have always said I'm the lucky one because I never tend to get pulled over when I get into a little speeding frenzy, however lately I've been pulled over almost every other day. So I have my suspicions since I'm either given verbal warnings, written warnings (neither of which came with any reason), or just Sunday finally given a ticket for what I was told my windows are too dark and I have to get them replaced before going to court.


[How very very convenient for Katrina. Nobody in the car with her. No damage to her car. Shallow ditch. No police report filed. In fact NO EVIDENCE at all about her being run off the road by a couple of cars driven by evil rightwing fascists. Oh, we do have Katrina’s word and I have to say that she must be believed….as much as Professor Kerri Dunn must be believed. But let us allow Katrina to get one final word in…]


So I think it's useless to be honest. And, there's no point in making a fuss about it really. It's when you do things like that they stop taking you seriously. It's the general thing caused by too many crying wolf I suppose. You have to wait 'til a wolf eats you first if I get it right


[“I think it’s useless to be honest.” Ms. Sumner, may I have your permission to inscribe that sage statement on the plaque at the gateway entrance to Dummieland?”]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-13-04 PM Edition ("Where is the bombshell that was supposed to fall today?")

The mood in DUmmieland has changed dramatically from the euphoria of this morning to the disgust of this evening as the reality of the Electoral College vote sinks in and NO John Kerry nor anybody else to the rescue. You can read of the DUmmie disgust on this THREAD titled, “Okay. I am disgusted. Where is the bombshell that was supposed to fall today?” I admit this thread is a bit of a downer from the HILARIOUS thread of this morning but FEAR NOT, I predict that the DUmmies will return to their previous unsubstantiated joy in the very near future. In fact, I won’t be a bit surprised if the DUmmies are jubilant in the days leading up to the inauguration because they will believe yet another wacko theory that Kerry will be revealed to be the true victor. As usual, the comments of the disgusted DUmmies are in Bolshevik Red, while the commentary of your humble correspondent enjoying the DUmmieland mood swings, is in the [brackets]:

Okay. I am disgusted. Where is the bombshell that was supposed to fall today? Where was all the MSM we were supposed to get as a result of Kerry joining in? No
bombshell, no coverage. As they say,"if it isn't on television,it didn't happen!" CSAN 2 even cancelled showing today's hearings! I am really disappointed. I think I really allowed myself to fall for hype. I am glad Arnebeck filed but I am not as optimistic as I was. I am more optimistic than a few days ago, but this is really a rollercoater, and I am tired of being disappointed! JMHO.



[Maybe you just didn’t send enough money to Bev Harris to expose the vote fraud. Send her more money and perhaps the big turnaround will yet happen. Please don’t stay disappointed because you DUmmies are much more FUnnie when you are jubilant for no known reason.]


You aren't going to hear anything cuz of the peterson sentencing.


[I predict that Kerry WILL be declared the winner…..after Snotty gets the lethal injection.]


Let the game come to you.


[That’s the good ol’ DUmmie spirit! Sit back, relax, and Kerry WILL be declared the winner!]



It will come, give them the rope....they will hang themselves.



[Relax. Relax. It’s all part of the well thought out Kerry game plan.]



What the state controlled media does is irrelevant. You should change your parameters from now on. If is not reported is irrelevant. John Kerry has started to act. That's relevant, IMO.



[Yes. That meaningless crumb of a letter that Kerry tossed out to placate you will make all the difference.]



I can't start new threads, but this was on Georgia Public Broadcasting -- they're re-voting Macintosh County, GA, for the sherrif's race because the vote was close and there were so many "irregularities" in the voter roles.


[YIPEEE!!! Today Macintosh County….Tomorrow the WORLD!!!]



I am sorry but I don't have the patience or the imagination at this point to stretch to a Georgia sherrif's race recount doing us much good in a presidential recount in Ohio!.



[But you MUST!!! Just close your eyes and imagine your own alternate reality of a Kerry victory.]


Doesn't John Kerry understand that he has got to come out in a big way about all of this?? It's the only way MSM is going to pick it up and the ONLY way we are going to get the truth out to the voters! Doesn't John Kerry understand the Democratic party will be DEAD if this just 'goes away'?? I just don't get it!!!!!


[Look for Kerry’s secret hand signals when adjusting his tie. And wait for his signal that victory is just around the corner.]


There is NOT going to be any alternate set of Ohio electors or some great conspiracy of fraud discovered or evidence that voting machines were rigged.

Why are you so surprised when people like Bev Harris and Cliff Arnebeck have been able to produce so little evidence proving what they allege?

Don't be disgusted, the idea of Kerry being suddenly the winner via some unprecedented and amazing fraud discovered is incredible. If I thought there was the remotest possibility that this was possible or based in fact the effort would be worthy to support. Of course it is vital to make sure every vote is counted, and that means rectifying mistakes and problems that made violating a devastating burden for some. Voting and registering to vote should be simple yet verifiable to eliminate the chance legitimate votes are lost and to ban the possibility of illegal voting.

My advice is to be active and engaged with the effort to make sure votes in future elections are registered in a better manner. No election will ever be perfect, but that should not stop efforts to improve elections.

As for waiting for 'bombshells' or the big conspiracy that will bring Kerry to office, the only thing that would put Kerry in the White House would be him winning the 2008 election if he were to run again.


[And this DUmmie WINS a Kewpie Doll for the most realistic post in Dummieland in weeks!]



Try not to get down people. It is all exhausting us because we care so much! Good will prevail......It just may take a little longer than we would like!



[Yes. I guarantee that Bush will be removed from office….in a little over 4 years.]




it is only just starting really just starting. the beginning. very beginning. long way to go who knows where it will go and what will develop. i am not counting on it getting kerry in. i am counting on eventually it taking bush and repugs down



[...Tara!...Home. I'll go home, and I'll think of some way to get him back! After all, tomorrow is another day!]



Don't get discouraged folks...this will be an ongoing battle until Jan 6


[And then Jan 20 and then…]



Maybe what would be more productive is for everyone to join a massive effort for media coverage. We should have celebrities demand coverage. Where is Micheal Moore? He should be screaming in the street! Micheal J. Fox? The Kennedy's. Anyone who can get ahold of a microphone do it. That is what I have been doing. But we need big names to get attention because apparently MSM doesn't think the issue itself merits coverage!



[Michael Moore is busy eating pizzas in the street. Hey, maybe we could have Julia Roberts loudly banging a tambourine!]



Then do it and stop your whining. Encourage folks to take action and to not take the crap, just don't sit around and be angry. Put the anger to good use. The doomsday threads are ridiculous and serve no purpose.



[Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me,

I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to.

Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me,

In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.]



Every day someone brings up the point of needing some voice to break it through to the MSM, and Every day DU'rs are emailing people to support that effort. Yet every day someone new acts surprised at the lack of coverage. It is definitely getting more than it used to, but of course we have a ways to go. It will get there though.


[Absolutely….on Jan. 20, 2009.]



All the time wasted, all the energy wasted, all the money wasted. Could have been used doing something constructive. If I didn't know better I'd say the vote fraud movement was orchastrated by Karl Rove himself.


[Shhhh! Don’t reveal the super secret operations of the Perfect Rovian Storm.]


I just heard an ad on Air America asking for volunteers and money to help with the Ohio recount. I think it was the Ohio Democrats. At the end they said something like "I don't think any of us really think they results will change, but if we don't recount, we'll never know." I think this is the stance they'll probably take. It's smart, politically, if a little disappointing.


[What an uplifting ad: “Send us money even though you will get nothing in return.”]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-13-04 AM Edition ("What letter did Kerry send to 88 Ohio Electors?")

Today the Electoral College casts its votes to give the election to Bush and yet the DUmmies are LEAPING FOR JOY as you can see in this THREAD titled, “What letter did Kerry send to 88 Ohio Electors?” Since there are only 20 electors from Ohio (no state having anywhere near 88 electors) this is yet more reason why we call them “DUmmies.” Another example of blatant DUmmieism also occurred in the last edition of the DUmmie FUnnies when some DUmmie smugly quoted “Shakespeare” to show why they are so much more educated than Freepers. I put “Shakespeare” in quotes because it turned out that the DUmmie quote wasn’t Shakespeare at all. And in this thread we see DUmmies acting like DUmmies once again because they are placing their desperate hopes in overturning the election on some letter that Kerry sent to 88 Ohio COUNTY boards of elections (not electors) asking for inspections of the election machines. Of course, Kerry ONLY sent the letter out in order to placate the DUmmie diehards so he can claim he “challenged” the 2004 election when he attempts to run again in ’08. And, of course, many DUmmies are grasping at this Kerry letter straw to find new hope that the election WILL be overturned somehow. As usual, the desperate delusional DUmmie comments are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, enjoying the wild spectacle of the DUmmie Desperadoes, is in the [brackets]:

What letter did Kerry send to 88 Ohio Electors? I am listening to AAR. The hostess has just referred to a letter that Kerry sent today to 98 electors from Ohio. Does anyone know about this? It sounds like a very positive move.



[The letter said: “I congratulate the state of Ohio for having even more electors than California. In fact, I like your state so much that I am supersizing your order to 98 electors.”]


If he says "Go ahead and cast your votes as-is," then we're screwed.


[Actually you’re screwed even if Kerry doesn’t say it. Kerry could sing “Jingle Bells” and it STILL would have NO effect on today’s Electoral College vote.]



OMG! Did I just hear that right? Kerry. I think I may die.
Areas of inquiry? Numbers that could change the outcome? I may faint.



[OMG! OMG! OMG! I’m gonna FAINT! Kerry sends out a letter so that MUST mean that Bush WILL be defeated! OMG!]





dont faint. its real......kerry is coming on in......



[All together now---let’s sing. “Someday my Prince Will Come!”]


I've felt it all along. It's just so amazing that we're not nuts. Wow.


[And I have a friend who drinks a six pack of beer every morning at breakfast who claims he is NOT an alcoholic.]


Anytime JK is mentioned, it means news. Headlines. Attention. Why are you worried? First law of lawyering: Never ask a question you don't know the answer to.


[First law of Democrat politics: Always feed a line of meaningless BS to placate a bunch of gullible DUmmies.]



something in the air. one minute..I know it in my heart its like you predicted on line.



[Don’t forget to post that same statement on the morning of Jan. 20.]


OMG! I knew I was in love with this man for a reason!


[Isn’t Kerry just WUUUUNDERFUL the way he sends out a meaningless letter to placate you DUmmies so you won’t annoy him about “vote fraud” in his next presidential bid?]



Rumor has it, that the blue state electors (CA) will not cast their votes tomorrow because of the fraud in Ohio...



[WOO! HOO! That means Kerry will LOSE by even MORE electoral votes!]



But if ohio is overturned, and CA doesnt vote. Are we shooting ourselves in the foot?



[DUh! DUh! DUmmie!]


What if California waits to certify votes after Ohio is proven to be Kerry and then certifies them for Bush? Then were up shit creek with a stinky paddle. Can they do that?


[DUh! DUh! DUmmie! The Ohio electoral votes WERE certified for Bush last Monday.]


All part of the plan!!! GO KERRY, GO KERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


[Yes. It is all part of a WUUUUNDERFUL Kerry plan to let us think that Ohio went for Bush only to pull those electoral votes at the last minute AFTER the Electoral College casts its votes.]


Jackson and Kerry drafted a letter to be mailed Monday to 88 separate BOEs. Inquiring about possible misplaced votes in southern Ohio for Judge C. and provisional ballots and auditing of machines by non-partisan personnel.


[And for this the DUmmies are celebrating the impending Kerry victory? Oh wait. I forgot. It is all part of a WUUUUNDERFUL Kerry plan for victory.]


YAHOOOOOOOO!!!!
Deck the Halls with boughs of ballots, FA LA LA LA LAAAAAAAA!!!


[WHEEEEEEEEE! It’s all in the bag for Kerry!!! FA LA LA LA LAAAAAAAA!!!]



That Kerry was calling for investigations into distribution of voting machines. Jackson and Kerry together drafted a letter, (1)pointed to 92,000 ballots where no votes were counted for president; (2) Some outside independent verification of the optical scanners of paper ballots; (3) Provisional Ballots: The level of votes that were rejected were twice the amount as in 2000, another anomaly, to be investigated.



[KERRY SPEAKS! Whoooohoooooooooooooooooooo! I'm SCREAMING ALOUD HERE! YEAH BABY!





KERRY SPEAKS! Whoooohoooooooooooooooooooo! I'm SCREAMING ALOUD HERE! YEAH BABY!



[Whoooohoooooooooooooooooooo! You took the words right out of my mouth!]



Couldja just die? I'm soooooo happy. Stuck his head out of the foxhole. Complete in his battle plans.



[I’m jumpin’ for joy! It’s all part of Kerry’s WUUUUUNDERFUL plan!]



Patsy, the perfect storm has gathered. Wanna high five?



[YES! YES! OH YES! And you sure are a Patsy!]


On the high side, on the down low, around the back and under the leg. We all did this. We rock! JK rocks! Viva la Revolution! It might not be televised, but it sure as hell will be blogged.


[VIVA! Okay, let’s just relax now that the Kerry inauguration this January is INEVITABLE.]


OMG-Im sitting here with happy excited tears laughing my ass off.



[I’m pissing in my pants from joy!]



OH HALLALUJA THERE IS A GOD! HE GOT BALLS!



[GLORY HALLELUJA!!! OH BOY! OH JOY!]



I hear ya, but at least Kerry is doing something. I was so worried that he wasn't and I had almost given up on him.



[Yes! Isn’t it WUUUUUNDERFUL the way Kerry tossed that meaningless crumb in our direction?]


I was right all along? Really? I'm not psychotic? I felt all along that things were going to plan. Just a nagging feeling all the time that everything was supposed to happen when it was supposed to happen, and not a moment before. I knew that the man that took down BCCI and Iran-Contra had a plan. Wow. I'm gonna go get a drink.


[No. You’re not psychotic. It really is part of Kerry’s WUUUUUNDERFUL last minute plan. Oh, and don’t forget to take a shot of lithium with that drink.]



I just called my sister aka debbie downer and told her to stop telling people in the family to talk to me about my obsession with the failed election. Boy was that call fun!!!!!!!!!



[And now that is proven without a doubt that Kerry won the election, your family will respectfully treat you as a wise prophet rather than a pathetic obsessed DUmmie living in a dream world.]



I Love It. Hell Kerry is suppose to be on vaction! WOW He is on Vacation all right LOL!



[I knew from the secret hand signals when adjusting hit tie that Kerry wasn’t really on vacation. He was in the process of implementing his WUUUUUUUNDERFUL plan.]



He'd better rest up - he's got a busy 4 years ahead!! Heck, eight maybe...



[YIPPPEEEE! And I guess now MTV WILL be having an inaugural party.]



It was said when they made that last stop in Iowa to thank his supporters that Teresea and him were going on vacation to Idaho (I think was the right place) for his Birthday. He was on vacation all right LOL! This man is smart as hell. A hell of alot smarter than people ever give him credit for. He knows what the hell he is doing LOL! That is why I have always trusted and had the upmost respect for this man. He is A true America hero!



[Yup! Incredibly smart. He let everybody think he was going on vacation when, behind the scenes, he was secretly putting into motion his WUUUUUUNDERFUL plan!]



this is giving me a lot of hope! I hope I hope I hope. maybe I'll pray again for the third time this month... maybe maybe



[Pray! Pray! Pray! Hope! Hope! Hope! Maybe! Maybe! Maybe!]



and a Yipppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee from Alabama! Please, oh please!!



[Please! Please! Please!]



Is there someone who can explain, coherently, what is going on? All I see is a bunch of yippee, hoo hah and not much else.



[Don’t you see! The election is OVER because Kerry sent out a letter just before the Electoral College casts its votes for Bush! Kerry has won! YIPPEE! HOO! HAH!]


They can't win if we do a Ukraine here...I don't care WHAT the Constitution says on Electors....the People rule!


[Stupid Constitution! The Electoral College vote today is MEANINGLESS!]


IF credible evidence is brought up contesting the election...I'm taking to the streets... Give me the ammo, Kerry and Dems...and we'll go out to the streets and not return until we have a Ukraine HERE in America!


[You can join that massive protest of 400 people who showed up in Columbus last week.]



No, no ... don't do this to me ... don't get my hopes up ...I swear I'm going to have a breakdown before this is all over.



[Relax. It’s all OVER. Kerry has WON because of his WUUUUNDERFUL plan.]


It Is Pretty Damn Exciting!! My husband and daughter said I'm going crazy LOL!


[And I give your husband and daughter credit for perceptiveness.]



HOPE IS ON THE WAY!!! After the crash of Black Tuesday II, I'm so wary of getting my hopes up but I can't help it.



[HOPE IS ON THE WAY!!! And it is in the form of the placate crumb of a letter that Kerry tossed your way.]


I am so totally psyched. We have always know this day would come. It just feels so great to finally be here.


[Oooooooh! I am totally psyched too! And what will you be wearing to the Kerry’s Inaugural Ball? Will you be bleaching your hair for the occasion or will be leaving it the usual purple?]



It's like in the movies. I feel like Rocky...beaten...but getting up to win the fight!!!!



[ADRIAN! ROCKY! ADRIAN! ROCKY! ADRIAN! ROCKY!]



OMG!! I am literally wiping tears of joy and hope away!!! I pray this is true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



[Oh, it is! JOY TO THE WORLD! Thank God for John Kerry and his placate crumb tossed in our direction!!! It was all part of his WUUUUUNDERFUL plan!]



OMG! I get off DU for a few hours to go bake some Christmas cookies, and all hell breaks loose! I am SO hoping that this pans out!



[Oh don’t be silly! Of course it will pan out! It is all part of Kerry’s WUUUUUNDERFUL plan. The crumb he tossed us in the form of a meaningless letter WILL SAVE THE DAY!!!]



I've been skeptical of this whole voter fraud story, but this is making me a believer.



[Believe! BEEEEELEEEEEEEVE!!! Against all evidence to the contrary you must BEEEEELEEEEEVE!!!]


Rovian psyops commencing. Be vigilant!


[I’m vigilant all right. I am keeping out a sharp eye for those Rovian psyops folks who will be claiming that the Electoral College vote today somehow means something.]



I don't know about you guys...but I'm getting my martial arts weapons ready...don't own a gun...but, I'm preparing for this coming week..



[Maybe you could wipe out a whole town of redneck rightwingers with your left toe like Billy Jack did.]



hey that reminds me shouldn't we be alerting the media and Keith O about this!



[And don’t forget to alert your Shrink.]



Why hasn't this appeared anywhere else? It should be so big! I am getting worried that we might be being duped.



[DUmmies being duped? Perish the thought!]


It looks like tomorrow (oops, guess I should say today) is gonna be a good one. It's like that moment when you are looking at the jigsaw pieces and start to see where they all fit. I have a feeling a lot of people will be having "aha" moments today.


[It will be interesting to see you at noon on Jan. 20 when the jigsaw pieces of your scattered brain temporarily come together to inform you on just WHO is being inaugurated. It will be your “aha” moment.]



Nothing on J.Kerry's web site and no link to any news of this on Air Americas Web site.. If Kerry is going to jump in he should be at Rep Conyers thing today!!!! Dont get our hopes up to be dashed again.... find something concrete like a copy of the memo



[Thus concludes this DUmmie thread (so far) as cold harsh reality splashes the DUmmies in their delusional faces. Again the Acme Co. package explodes in the DUmmie Coyote's face. BEEP! BEEP!]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-11-04 (Watching DUmmies Watching Us Watching DUmmies)

It’s fun to watch the DUmmie Ants in my DUmmie Ant Farm. It is even more fun knowing that the DUmmie Ants know they are being watched as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD titled, “Beware! We ARE being watched by Republicanazis-here are their comments.” And one of the “Republicanazies” being quoted is none other than our own DUFU PINGEE, dubyaismypresident . And, OF COURSE, our very own BELOVED DUmmie FUnnies is also mentioned!!! Now sit back and watch the Dummies watching us watching them. As usual their paranoid DUmmie rantings are in Bolshevik Red while you’re the comments of your humble correspondent watching them are in the [brackets]:

Beware! We ARE being watched by Republicanazis-here are their comments.


[Beware, DUmmie Vote4Kerry, is paranoid about being watched. Let us watch him list our comments about watching them…]


Everybody,
I know that some of you all may be newbies (I myself am new, also). I just want to warn everybody here that we are being watched by supporters of p(R)esident B*sh. This was posted in another thread, but I will repost and highlight some of the disturbing comments made by Freepers (a right-wing website, for those of you that don't know). Here is the link:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1298745/posts


Disturbing posts from the above thread

To: cgbg

It is the talk of Dummyworld if you want further details.

I read the DUmmies FUnnies everyday. They are hoot ain't they.


30 posted on 12/10/2004 12:25:55 PM PST by dubyaismypresident (Harry Reid is an embarrasment to the Senate)



To: cgbg

Apparently they have postponed the lawsuit until next Monday.

This is the day the electors vote so they want to compete for media attention.

The Dummie link is:

Ohio Lawsuit Info

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=137659&mesg_id=137659






[And this marks the FIRST actual mention of the DUmmie FUnnies by name in Dummieland. WOO! WOO! It’s fun to realize that the DUmmies know what we think of them. As DUmmies.



I say f*ck 'em and the horseshit they rode in on.



[I say profanity is NOT the soul of wit.]



I'll second that. F*ck them



[No high marks here for originality.



I say F*CK EM! Those posts don't bother me!



[Sure, sure. And would you mind wiping that steam off from under your collar?]



For being ineffectual, spineless, and all the other weaknesses they accuse us of, we're certainly making them nervous, aren't we??



[So nervous that we are barely able to control our laughter.]



Ah, who cares about freepers. I didn't even know such a low life existed until six weeks ago. Why should they have some special attention? I looked over there and it seems a board of simplistic black and white thinkers who never even graduated from high school and never roamed more than a few miles from their Southern homes. We are not talking intelligence or worldly knowledge when we talk "freepers".



[Why thet ther DUmmie is a makin’ me humbled. If’n ah kin ever get outs of mah li’l holler in this here mountan from whar ah nevah romed but a few mahls, ah maght wants to shewt haim.]



It always amazes me how timeless that Willy Shakespeare is. Too bad freeptards can't read or understand Shakespeare or much else for that matter.



[DUmmies have a plentiful lack of wit (especially since they misquoted Shakespeare on this thread).]


FYI - they're always watching us. They're obsessed with us and they're nothing but heaping piles of dogshit masquerading as humans. They are the lowest form of pond scum in the known universe. They are subhuman ratshit. In other words: We could give a f*ck what they think, say, or do.



[Then you won’t mind the inclusion of your incredible wit in the DUmmie Funnies.]



They're psychological parasites-not just material ones. If we gave up feeding them the feeling of Real Life(tm), they'd commit mass suicide. Poison, knive, beat, and impale them. Metaphorically, of course. Point out their doltish, trivial, Lebensluegen and watch them slink away. I'd play with them more, but they're so f*cking boring in all of the mendacities, denial, bullying, dreary "insights", group'think'. Even their vices are pitifully lacking in realness or sense, never mind imagination. The biggest joke is their 'spirituality' if/when they pretend to some. Their idolatries are rather astonishing, though- a veritable WalMart SuperStore of glossy, big, imported, cheap, fakery-given, vanities and jokes-they-don't-realize-are-jokes. Basically: these people live in the New Jersey of the cognitive universe.



[While you live in the Fire Island of the alternative universe.]


I'm impressed by their ability to cap DU and then shift back to lower case.


[A very useful ability when you often have to type “DUmmie,” DUmmie.


I love the creativity, initiative and rationality that I find on DU.


[The BEST source of inadvertent humor on the Web!]


This one is for party of god.


[The party of God is all ears. Please continue DUmmie SueZhope…]



For the freepers who are reading this. Since your guy won fair & square
and since you are on the higher morel plane, and have god on your side.
Since us DUers are just liberals who have little power .
Let me ask you why are you getting off on reading this?


[The LAUGHS! What else?]



Shouldn’t you be cooking meals for the homeless ?
Or doing other good deeds that good moral people do.
Is it godly to spend time criticizing others?



[How much sodium would you like on your boiled potatoes?]



We are your friends
Jesus loves us..why don’t you?


[We LOVE the laughs you provide us.]



Us liberal elitists we already have been told we walk on a lower
morel plane . However you are the chosen group. There for you should be doing gods
Work. Is this the way you want to lead? Spending time with a bunch of
Liberals...when you could be walking with the lord doing good?


[Spreading good humor IS doing the Lord’s work.]



Please explain to me why there is such hate coming from your words?
I do not see Love there...........will you guide us to the good you now so well?


[NAW! Sorry, DUmmie SueZhope. I like you DUmmies just the way you are since you all are an ENDLESS source for laughs. Oh, and that FAKE piety shtick was HILARIOUS!]



That f**cking website is such a joke! They have the balls to call this web-site "Dummy World"???!!!



[Slight correction. We call you “DUmmieland.”



My Word to the Watchers is This:

You may have taken the election, but many of us are of far sterner stuff than you anticipate.

I come from a long line of people who ran counter to oppression. Two of My forbears were hanged in the Salem Witch Trials and yet a third died on the gibbet in England during the Chelmsford Witch Trials!

One ancestress was put do death for being a Quaker. My great great grandmother left an abusive husband in the 1850's and set off across country in a wagon with five small children. She prospered even though she was vilified as a "grass widow". The blood of our family saturates the soil of this land and I will not leave it!

I will NOT shut up and I will NOT go away! My grandmother fought you, My mother fought you and I shall fight you! I carry the legacy of those who fought proudly in the Revolutionary War, for FREEDOM, in the Civil War, for FREEDOM and fought and died in World War II for FREEDOM and I WILL not yield to you!

While I am American, and have been all My life, I come from the proudest of lineages. I am French, I am German, I am British and I am Irish and I carry the genes of each of those lands' best and boldest.
I am also Native American with family ancestors on the Dawes Rolls and from them I have been given the ability to wait under oppression and to hold what is sacred to Me close to My breast.

I DEFY YOU! Everything that you are, everything you represent is vileness to Me and to My kindred! And know that if I lose, hundreds behind Me will hate you as I do! If I win, I shall be EXACTLY as merciful in victory as you have been!

Know this and know it well, for it will be what undoes you: A populace with nothing left to lose is dangerous! Create tension and remove avenues of expression or escape and you create the very circumstances which have destroyed other traitorous regimes! You cannot crush the already crushed! You cannot stop the conflagration of those sucked dry! There are more of us than you think and we are angrier than you can imagine. We may not rise up immediately, but in EVERY small way we will work to fetter you, drag at your feet, slow your hands and blunt your swords. We are the New Maquis and we despise you! We are the French Resistance and we despise you! We are the Underground Railroad and we despise you! We are the Warsaw Ghetto and we despise you! We are the Defeated and we will triumph!



[You forgot to mention that one of your ancestors was Roderick the Ridiculous, Court Jester to the Emperor Charlemagne. Glad to see you keeping up the family tradition of providing lots of laughs.]



what a fascinating family history you have the people who discriminated against your ancestors were the historical equivalent to modern day freepers!
I have ancestors who fought in every American war since the revolution, which is something the freepers can't say I'm sure. They probably have always profited from but not fought in wars.



[YUP! I personally made thousands of bucks selling faulty muskets to the Army during the War of 1812.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-10-04 (DUmmies Plead For Al Gore In OH "Vote Fraud")

The Electoral College lock their votes in irreversibly this Monday and the DUmmies are DESPERATE. So desperate that only one hero can now enter the scene and save the day for them. None other than Al Gore. You can read their plea for their hero in this DUmmie THREAD titled, “Time soon for Al "I got royally f*cked" Gore to step up to plate in OH?” Yes, they actually expect the wacky to somehow save the loony. So sit back and enjoy this edition of the DUmmie FUnnies Comedy Theater starring Al Gore in the lead role. As usual the desperate DUmmie pleadings are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, watching from the gallery, is in the [brackets]:

Time soon for Al "I got royally f*cked" Gore to step up to plate in OH?

Call me whacky but I just read Mark Crispin Miller's report from OH (link below) and if OHIO keeps gaining momentum, I want Al Gore to be the face on COUNTING THE VOTES. Who better? Not Kerry like some keep pushing here. Al gave a great speech a few months ago. He has kept a super low profile. He is not running for office. As a former VP, he has boo-koo clout. It would be sweet poetic justice. Thoughts?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x135631


[Okay I’ll call you whacky but not as whacky as Al “YOU BETRAYED US” Gore. Yes Algore does have “boo-boo clout” because he makes boo-boos whenever he opens his mouth nowadays. It would be sweet justice to see Algore enter the tinfoil hat Ohio vote fraud fray. Since he would only further marginalize himself, the comedic entertainment value would be tremendous. Oh, and that link you thoughfully listed goes to yet another vote fraud money raising scam. I guess others want to horn in on that Bev Harris action now that she is banned from Dummieland.]



You are a genius henslee. This would be perfect. Gore could pull it off. Wish I knew him or someone close, I'd harass them with calls and emails.



[Yes, Dummie henslee is a great comedic genius. I can’t think of the many laughs I would get watching Al Gore screaming about election fraud in Ohio. Instead of “HE BETRAYED US!!!” it could be “HE DEFRAUDED US!!!”]


Love the idea. Shall we start an e-mail campaign?


[Yes. Send your e-mail to algore@betrayedus.com.]



That would be a GREAT idea!! We could get Gore screaming fraud in Ohio, that would be awesome!



[“HE DEFRAUDED US!!!” Awesome!]



A fantastic idea. Gore has no political future anyway. Of course, he's just as likely as JJ to get reamed by the media for it, but f*ck it, Gore would be a big deal: it would force exposure.



[I agree. Algore has no political future.]

If Arnebeck can make the case to him, I'm willing to bet he'll do it.


[The loony making the case to the wacky. I like it!]



Great idea! I think Gore likes to hear himself talk and would love to be the face of this movement. How can we get in touch with him?



[Algore can be contacted at either the Fat Farm or the Funny Farm. Not sure which.]



:Insert Dean scream here: Al would gore Nazi scam!



[YEEEEEEEAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!]


So, we need someone who not only can gain access to him, but someone who comes from a really credible position. Or maybe we need a team to approach him. Maybe William Rivers Pitt has a suggestion? I know we have other journalists and Democratic insiders who read this or pop in from time to time. Maybe we should start a post called "Need to Contact Al Gore" and keep it kicked while in the meantime, we research other ways to connect with him. If, after he is located, he does not agree to jump on board, I'd be really curious about what his reasons would be.... Anyway, I think this is a great idea. Gore is perfect.


[Send smoke signals into the cyberspace ether. That should get Algore’s attention. And the only reason why he wouldn't drink the Ohio vote fraud Kool Aide is because he is too busy drinking iced tea.]


Al showed so much power & energy in his anti-Bush speeches during the Kerry campaign - he was phenomenal & would be fantastic if he got involved in the Ohio project.


[I say we should reward Algore with the presidential nomination if he agrees to provide comedy entertainment in Ohio. Why stop the laughs now when we could have lots more laughs in ’08?]


I want him to come out screamin'...... We are in the most perilous times in 50 years..... We NEED a PASSIONATE voice. I LOVE the idea !


[Me too! I LOVE the idea of a passionately nutty voice like Algore screaming like a maniac again.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-09-04 PM Edition (DUmmies Plan to "Freep" Larry King Tonight)

The DUmmies were all atwitter with their plans to “freep” the Larry King show tonight as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD titled, “Effort to ask Edwards about irregularities on Larry King Live 9pm et.” Some might consider it in poor taste to call in to insert politics in a show that is supposed to be about Elizabeth Edwards’ battle with breast cancer but the DUmmies planned to push forward their tinfoil hat agenda despite this. Unfortunately, for the DUmmies, their plan has once again blown up in their face as you can see in the last Dummie post in the thread. As usual, the desperate DUmmie comments are in Bolshevik Red while the observations of your humble correspondent are in the [brackets]:

Senator Edwards and his wife will be on Larry King Live this evening and I think it might be a great opportunity for us to try and directly bring into question the integrity of the Vote specifically in Ohio on national TV.

First off i think we all need to fill out the web form located here:

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?12

Additionally everyone should attempt to call in to the show. Now I apologize ahead of time if this is offensive, but i think that the only way we can actually get through to Larry will be if we lie a little bit. The topic of course is Mrs. Edwards breast cancer and i think our best hope would be for some of the women from this forum to call in supposedly about the topic (probably saying that they are survivors) and once on the air actually talking about the election.

I have family that recently passed away from cancer and I do not by any means want to pretend like it is not a sensitive and important subject, but hands down the ends outweigh the means in my opinion

An outline of relevant possible questions/statements to ask:

- Conyers hearings?

- Rampant disenfranchisement in NC forcing a redo of vote similar to Ohio problems

- Statical analysis by various Universities citing impossibility of bush win

- Ken Blackwell partisanship politics while dealing with recount

- MSM ignoring this story out right

please post any additional important points which should be brought up tonight. Thank you.


[Yes. I would like to bring up the point that it is an incredibly tacky idea but I know that won’t stop you.]


I hate to admit it, but you may be right. It might be about the only way to get some real information.


[Yes. Let’s HIJACK a show about breast cancer in order to forward our tinfoil hat vote fraud theories.]


i know i feel morally corrupt for saying it


[Don’t let that stop you. It never has in the past.]


im just saying we tell the phone screeners that so they let us get through and then once we are on the air we discuss the election.


[The loony vote fraud agenda MUST be advanced no matter how much you embarrass Elizabeth Edwards.]



Well what if we asked Elizabeth what dress she plans to wear to the inaguration, after the recount shows that her husband is the next VP?



[What kind of dress do you plan to wear to your institutionalization after an exam shows that you are sanity challenged?]


I wouldn't have any hesitation about expressing my sympathy to Elizabeth about her illness and wishing them the best. You could also ask about the stress of the election and ask what their reaction is to the recount and Jesse Jackson et al.


[Yeah, spend like a half second expressing sympathy before you get into the election fraud rant for a few minutes running.]


I'll call in and say that I had advanced breast CA that became widely deseminated. After having worked for one of the most presigious academic medical centers in the country as dir. of an NIH funded center for medical research, I decided to choose a treatment not predicated on profit taking (ie, the Multi-billion $$ Cancer industry among others). To make a long story short, I went to a little hospital in Mexico and was completely cured in less than 5 weeks. That was 7 years ago. I'm going to remind her to consider all of her options, and let her know that I'm a DUer and we are all thinking of her and praying for her complete recovery....and, say that we are all watching the recount efforts going on in WA, OH, AK and wishing that she and John will be in the WH someday real soon!



[Why waste time? Just skip the phony sympathy bit and get to the retread recount rant.]


I see absolutely nothing wrong with lying to the screeners in an attempt to get on the air to talk about election fraud. Edwards will never win another election ever unless we fix the election system. His and our future depends on it. ASK THE QUESTION. I think there are two other guests as well. One is Andy Rooney and the other one is someone who may agreee with us as well. I forget who that is though.


[Yes, go ahead and LIE! It is SOP for DUmmies.]


I know the subject of her talk will be breast cancer. However, its still a news show. And John Edwards himself will be on. You can ask him the question instead of his wife.




[And you can tell which one is John Edwards---the spouse looking intently into a beauty compact while fussing with his hair.]



The show has already been taped...So you can't call in and ask questions.



[Oops! The Acme Co. package just blew up in the DUmmie Coyote’s face YET AGAIN. BEEP! BEEP!]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-09-04 ("Blood-boiling ANGRY!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:")

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! DUmmie dmac is ENRAGED over receiving a letter in the mail listing her donations to Terry “The Jerk” McAuliffe and other loser Democrat Candidates as you can see in this Dummie THREAD titled, “Blood-boiling ANGRY!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:” I will let Dummie dmac lead off with the revelation as to the source of her bile. As usual the enraged DUmmie comments are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, enjoying the sight of boiling DUmmie blood is in the [brackets]:

Blood-boiling ANGRY!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

I just received in today's mail the most offensive piece of mail I think I have EVER received. The return address on the envelope has "Vote-Race" as the sender and then a POB. I opened this and enclosed is a single sheet of paper with the following typed in red:


DONATIONS to TERRY "the jerk" McAULIFFE: $ xxxxx.

DONATIONS to LOSING DEMOCRAT CANDIDATES: $ xxxx.

ELECTION DAY RESULTS: PRICELESS


and then there is a large sign like I have seen as bumper stickers: black background, with a huge white W and beside it the words:


Still

THE PRESIDENT

(underlined in red and then the date,)

NOVEMBER 2, 2004

Man! What class, huh? Not to mention, what AUDACITY! given that their candidate didn't even WIN damn it! Instead of "may the best man win" the theme should have been "the best thief will win". I would give anything to know who sent this just so I could engage them in a battle of the truths - though why, I do not know, since these people wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on the a** if it says something negative about GWB.

Anyone else receive anything like this?!?!?!?



[No. I didn’t receive that letter, DUmmie dmac, but then I wasn’t stupid enough to donate to the Democrats. Have you considered powdering down the letter in order to look for Karl Rove’s fingerprints?]


that is odd...did it seem a mass mailing...they'd spend the money?


[Considering who was on the receiving end, it could also be called an “ass mailing.”]



were the xxx's the amount you personally donated? That would be creepy if they were tracking you personally. If it was generic, well, people are morans. Don't let it get to you.





[Too late. Apparently it HAS gotten to DUmmie dmac.]



Oh no - the x's were definitely the precise amounts I donated to the DNC (thus McAuliffe) and various other Dem candidates, including Kerry of course.



[ALL your stats BELONG to us!]


OMG...that's too creepy!


[A Perfect Rovian Storm.]


Were those YOUR personal donation numbers, the amounts you contributed? Was it bulk mail or did it look more personal? That's pretty fecking funny, actually. (Although I understand why you are mad.) But what a waste of postage, just to piss you off.


[After seeing the incredible level of ANGER elicited from DUmmie dmac, I would say it was a wise investment.]



focus your anger on removing the repugs. we all know they are liars, evil, crass, lack in morality, hypocrites, ...shall I go on. Let's keep on fighting to expose their theft of an election.



[Yes. Think POSITIVE thoughts. Every day, in every little way, I am getting angrier and ANGRIER!!!]



These idiots are really proud of supporting the most evil, hated, non-elected moron on the planet. They are all asswipes with NO working brains. Burn it ASAP.



[Burn, baby, BURN!]



Thats some sick scary, creepy, crap. Sounds like the freepers are sending mail How did they find you?



[We have the private profiles (and addresses) of ALL the DUmmies thanx to DEEEEEP infiltration of DUmmieland.]



Fund-Race! That's it!

I couldn't remember exactly what was in that corner but that was exactly what it was. How did you find this? And does this mean that someone I know sent this? Now I feel sick to my stomach. I think I would rather the Repubs be targeting all Dem contributors rather than think that someone I KNOW would go in and search to find who I supported and for how much, and then to send something so inflammatory.

I wonder sometimes if we will ever be able to really build bridges back to the other side. I have dear friends and family members that are firmly on Conservative turf - and we have all resolved not to discuss politics because it gets too personal and damaging to our relationships. I am finding this painful now. I liked it better when I was just mad.

Posters, please let me know if any of you get one of these. Then I will go back to just being angry.



[But we enjoy watching you at the current ENRAGED level, DUmmie dmac.]



this has got to be the most personally evil thing a person could do to someone. I can't imagine being so personally arrogant to mail something like that to my neighbors. Repigs really are possessed....



[This is even worse than murder.]



It's gotta be someone you know. Maybe someone you argued with, pre-election. No way there's a Repug mass mailing just to say "Ha! Ha!"



[Ha! Ha!]



Have the last laugh...send it to Keith Olbermann via certified snailmail and have him show millions of viewers what moral values it took to do a mass-mailing like that and have MSNBC do a follow-up.



[Even better. Send Keith the link to this edition of the DUmmie Funnies. Perhaps he might want to join the PING List.]



Don't give them the satisfaction of getting mad. Toss it in the trash, burn it in the fireplace, do what you got to do, and then go about your day working against these pricks. Getting you mad is exactly what they're hoping for. If you laugh it off and treat it as the pathetic stunt it is, then they've failed.



[Too late. Since Dummie dmac’s angry wail passed the DUmmie FUnnies auditioning process with flying colors, it has SUCCEEDED!]



Take it to the cops....it's evidence. give photocopies to the media!!!! hand them out to your neighbors (black out the numbers) they'll watch your house for you. dna when they licked the stamp!! get em with science - they hate that!



[Then compare the DNA on the back of the stamp to the DNA of Karl Rove.]


Someone nit-wit just made it up on their own. The "parody" of the credit card ad doesn't even make any real sense as a joke. Why get bent out of shape by slam mail from a bounder? Why give some empty-headed schmuck the satisfaction?


[Apparently the joke worked BEAUTIFULLY on DUmmie dmac.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-08-04 PM Edition ("So What's Up With Rove?")

The biggest bogeyman to the DUmmies is none other than KARL ROVE. To him they have ascribed superhuman powers in the art of political manipulation whether it was being the genius behind setting Dan Rather up on the Texas Air National Guard fraud letter or arranging for massive vote fraud in Ohio. The DUmmies believe that Karl Rove is everywhere and anywhere so when he disappears (most likely on a well-deserved vacation) this puzzles the DUmmies as you can see in this THREAD titled, “So What's Up With Rove?” The answer to that question, most likely, is that Rove is resting calmly on a Caribbean island while using his notebook PC to surf the Net and laugh his ass reading the DUmmie FUnnies. As usual, the DUmmie paranoia is in Bolshevik Red while your humble correspondent's comments, watching this Perfect Rovian Storm (as a DUmmie earlier described it), are in the [brackets]:

What's Up With Rove?

Has he been on vacation?

Guess he is not too worried about all the buzz regarding his stolen election.

He is way too quiet. All the Republicans are WAY to quiet.

Their usual MO is to hit back fast. I have not heard a peep. Did I miss something?




[Yes. The election results.]



The devil ain't EVER on vacation! He's working hard on some sneaky plot. Whatever it is. My thoughts: counter-vote fraud. It's filling his days.



[My thoughts: He is laughing at the paranoia of you DUmmies while he enjoys his tropical island vacation. It’s filling his days.]



He's been busy feeding everyone False information. But I do agree that it seems that ALL of the Republicans have been way too quiet...not nearly enough bragging going on.



[You mean not enough gloating going on like you DUmmies did on the afternoon of Nov. 2 when you thought you won the election due to phony exit polls?]



Maybe he doesn't know which ass to cover. Facts, rumors, speculation, whistleblower, data coming out the wazoo, committee meetings about fraud, it's all over the internets, in newspapers, on the t.v. (select shows). It's not just one story to refute, it's 57,000 of them. Hope he has been overwhelmed.



[Karl Rove is so “overwhelmed” at your vote fraud alternate reality fantasy that it has sent him into spasms of yawning.]



He's still lurking around. You can be sure that KKKarl and his minions already have a set of spin points in stock and ready to use if the FRAUD stories get up a real head so steam. Betcha' he's already laying the groundwork to smear Curtis as a tin hatter only out to sell a book.



[Karl Rove is probably as aware of Curtis as he is of the sand flea he just crushed underfoot somewhere on a Caribbean beach.]



What are the Freepers saying? Are they quiet too? Nothing on their websites? They know they stole it!



[Stand by. You WILL be DUFUed! Oh, and it was FUN stealing your election. How did we do it? You must send money to Bev Harris for the answer.]



I checked the freeper site last night and didn't see anything about Curtis on there..not a word. What's with that?



[Maybe the arcane vote fraud theories of Curtis, Arnbeck, etc., just bore the crap out of us.]



The only thing I have seen on FR is the sick schmucks having chuckles about all of the folks on DU whining that the election was stolen.



[Welcome to the DUmmie Funnies! May I add you to the PING List?]


Rove is doubtless laughing as he watches Democrats scramble to figure out how they were beaten so soundly in this last election. He is waiting for our leadership's next move and he has already prepared responses for several possibilities. He is going to be working behind the scenes to get Bush's agenda enacted.


[Rove CONTROLS the agenda! Resistance is futile! Drop your cigars and raise your hands in the air! ALL your votes belong to us!]


He has done the "after fix" to make sure that the vote stories get lost in wonder land. He doesn't have a care in the world. 'bout time for him to make a slip up.


[True. Rove never took into account that Bev Harris would trademark the letters “BBV.” That is the slip up that will bring down the whole Rovian Empire.]


It just seems as if we are living in 1870. Riding on a train going the wrong way and we can't do anything about it because the conductors control everything~ There has got to be sunshine for all these cloudy days. We must stay positive.


[What’s that train station up ahead? Why, it’s Rove Junction!]



He scares the be-jesus out of me...I keep telling myself - "he's just a man, he's just a man, he's just a man".



[Are you sure or is he UBERMAN!!!!]



Don't be scared...He is nothing more than a big fat bully and ALL bullies are COWARDS. Eventually, he will get caught and you will see that he is NOTHING but
smoke and mirrors. He has done HORRIFIC things, destroyed
lives and he WILL be exposed some day.



[Mommy! Mommy! I’m fwightened of the Big Bad Wove!]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-08-04 AM Edition ("New methods are called for...")

The DUmmies have been giving me headaches recently with their MANY vote fraud conspiracy theories and the inane details which they shift through again and again and again. In addition, there isn’t a bit of consistency among the rival conspiracy theories. Bev Harris disavows Clint Curtis who hates Madsen and they all impugn the integrity of another conspiracist whose name I think is Arndt who is currently grieving because rightwingers just killed his pet parakeet or maybe it was his dog. Fortunately, after all this boring descent into meaningless and boring trivia, the DUmmies have once again come back to REDEEM themselves in the comedy department with this THREAD titled, “New methods are called for.” And these “new methods” refer to new methods of protesting. Yes, today we will be royally entertained by DUmmies being comedically creative as they dream up new protest methods. As usual, the DUmmie comedy routines are in Bolshevik Red and the heckling of your humble correspondent is in the [brackets]:

New methods are called for. I've already posted this to another thread, but the thread seems to have disappeared. (Weird, didn't look like flamebait to me.)

I'm not calling for violence. Someone had to invent the sit-in, didn't they? And it worked because it was unexpected. The opposition wasn't ready for it.

We're using the traditional methods: writing letters, having rallies, going to demonstrations and marches, all the things we've done in the past. All the things our opposition is ready for.

We need to do some brainstorming and come up with some new ways to take on the powerful. I agree that we probably shouldn't do it online; they're monitoring the 'net. I just throw this out in the hopes that folks will start doing some thinking and passing around word the old-fashioned way.

Although I suppose we could pass a code by hand and then talk in it online. . . . We'd probably need our methods decided before that, though.



[We ARE monitoring you plus we have already broken the code to your secret decoder ring. All your codes BELONG to us!]



My thought - sorry I keep repeating Is to get affidavits of people who voted to prove the fraud. Or at least canvass to prove the fraud. Skip the courts. Stastics can be bandied by the other side. Prove the fraud. Go to the people



[I love the practicality of this plan. Essentially have a revote in Ohio by going back and canvassing ALL the voters. Ask them how they voted and then compare the results with the election results. If the canvassed results show Kerry ahead then that proves beyond doubt that Kerry won. Maybe you could do the same among the 2000 voters in Florida and retroactively inaugurate Algore.]



WEAR ORANGE. Everybody can start by wearing orange. Maybe we need to come up with an Orange Arm band, or like Randi Rhodes was talking about last week, come up with Orange magnetic ribbons like the breast cancer and support the troops ribbons.



[This plan is even more practical than the previous one. Wear orange vests and you can also clean up the sides of the highways.]



This is purely symbolic. Symbolism is OK, but we need something more effective. Something like the twenty-first century version of the sit-in. Odds are they'll just make fun of us in the MSM for this.



[I don’t know about the MSM but you are certainly giving us a lot of laughs here in the DUFU.]



How about affidavits for those who couldn't vote? Ohio is the hot spot, we knew before hand that Ohio would be the new Florida. Why don't we have everyone in the counties with worst voter suppression write out and have notarized the fact that they tried to vote but couldn't because of long lines, being sent from precinct to precinct, or whatever was the reason they weren't able to vote. The paper should include that their vote would have gone to Kerry had they been able to vote. Aren't notary publics' services a couple dollars? Free at some banks? If you think this is a good idea, maybe it could be organized around the 51 capitol march on Sunday. Is anyone a notary public that lives in Ohio? Get the word out for those who didn't get to vote to come out to the rally and set up a booth to notarize their experience.



[Interesting concept. Maybe guys, after they score with chicks, can also “notarize the experience.”]



Agreed -- go to the people --- you call it an affidavit .. I call it a re-vote without the political parties involved. We must seek the truth, nothing more ...nothing less.



[Actually a non-official re-vote sponsored by the DUmmies and conducted by canvassing instead of actual voting at polls. The results are sure to impress everybody. Please continue with the laugh lines.]



I read someone's post today about "Do nothing Friday" Don't work or spend a dime in great numbers to have a big financial protest. Is this the type of thing you were talking about?



[Great idea! And maybe you can form a new political party called the Do Nothings.]


I also heard about "die-ins" in the streets. Lie down in the streets and keep people from getting around. I know this has been tried someplaces; I don't know what the effect was, but it seems it wasn't very.


[I’m driving down the street and I see a bunch of DUmmies lying there conducted a “die-in.” DON’T tempt me!]


A chain letter email from ass to elephant about vote fraud, and putting it behind us; as soon as they are on board.


[Chain letter back from elephant: “Put it behind you by sticking your email in your ass.”]



Use Guerilla marketing to start a viral marketing campaign by spending $10 at Kinkos and $11 at Staples and doing the following. Guerilla marketing uses unconventional means of distributing a message. Viral marketing describes any strategy that encourages individuals to pass on a marketing message to others, creating the potential for exponential growth in the message's exposure and influence. Viral marketing often comes about because of "buzz".



[I think your brain is suffering from a severe viral attack of Newspeak.]


Sort of like the Freeway Blogger, huh?


[More like the Freeper Blogger. Thanx to the comedy of you and your fellow DUmmies, the DUmmie FUnnies is now known as the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web.]


My belief is that INTERNATIONAL intervention is going to be needed here. I've got some ideas (some very good ideas) on how that might be effected, one place to start is with the action posted on Michael Moore's site w/ re: Germany's attempts to go after Rummy:


[Are these the Germans who were on Saddam’s Food for Oil bribe list or are they the Germans who are angry that they didn’t get in on the goodies of that bribe list?]


picket outside the state capital building, or the offices of diebold with maybe a bit of live music and dancing to keep warm, and costumes. doesn't need many people - one person could do it, or people do it in shifts. but it would get attention.


[Let us now form a committee to decide what kind of dancing. Tap dancing or ballet? Or maybe prancing would do the trick?]


They're ready for this kind of thing. Pickets have been around for more than a century. They'll just arrest the picketers and drag 'em off, or put them in a "free speech zone." This is exactly the kind of "tried and true" method we must avoid, unless of course we're using it as a cover for something else. They're expecting this one. We're trying to blindside them with something new.


[Mooning?]


We need active, obstructionist techniques that they're not expecting. We need many of them so that we can pull out the next one when they've gotten wise to the one before. We need to get creative, people! I am trying, too; I'm not just sitting here waiting for ideas to shoot down. I've shot down many of my own, unmentioned because I could see they weren't gonna make it. Get away from the symbolic. Get away from the slowly getting the message out. Think obstructive. Think dramatically reducing their cash flow (the one thing they care about). Remember that we've got numbers as our strength. Brainstorm.


[Have you considered old-fashioned overdosing on drugs?]


Freeway bannering for rush hour is the way to reach many thousands of people who are practically a captive audience in their cars. Using the 'Burma Shave' technique of telling a story in signs can be used. Think of it! All those middle class white and pink collar workers going to their desk computers to look up what they saw on the freeway.


[If you want to see a real Mental Case

Check this DUmmie Wild Goose Chase

Of Folks with No Idea on how to Behave

Burma Shave!]


Make this a march in DC of 30,000 people, and you have a truly profound message. Get 30k people and march them down constitution avenue in total silence. Each caries a sign upon which is detailed a single voting problem. March silently into the city, about face, and out of the city. Other than carying signs, don't talk to the press, police, officials, anyone. Silently, peacefully, march. Perhaps the 10 in front cary a banner with the inscription "20,000 reasons not to trust this election."


[Give us the date of this march so we can watch it covered live on the Comedy Channel.]


A group of peace protestors dressed in black and walked silently through one of the biggest social events of the year (our town festival, held in the center of town). They wound through the crowds saying nothing. Yeah, people noticed them. I think it was better than a loud demonstration. But most folks went back to the concerts and food stands and craft stalls and ignored them.



[Most likely the people thought the weirdos dressed in black were shilling for the Black Sabbath or some similar band.]


Political stand-up comedy protest? Get our best stand-up comics and comedic geniuses who side with us on this issue, and march on DC, put up a stage, and do good comedy?


[CALLING PAULY SHORE! CALLING PAULY SHORE!]


Maybe we need to decorate some public christmas trees? With Red Gloves or something.


[I’ve got a really crazy idea. How about decorating Christmas trees with lights? Like I said, a crazy idea.]



Let's shut down the INTERNET. as technology savvy people, why don't we figure out some way to have an INTERNET 'b*mb' . Where we could shut down the INTERNET for, say, exactly 24 hours and then immediately turn it back on.



[FINALLY a practical idea!!! And just ask Algore where the Internet on/off switch can be located.]


Also, we could try to coordinate something with the movement Chavez is starting.


[aka Communism.]



Where is every one right now? In the malls, I've been thinking about this for days but I'm not sure how it would work. The malls are where everyone is now shopping. You have a captive audience. There are large spaces for people to congregate and if the media doesn't show up, there are security cameras that can record it. You hit them where their pocket book is. The thing is I'm not sure what you would do there once you got the group in. You would have dress to stand out, pass out info and make noise. Not sure of the legality of this either. Just a thought.



[Yeah, you might FIRST want to think about what you will actually DO when surrounded by hordes of Shop ‘Til You Drop mall types.]


fly as many balloons as possible on one day with banners, propaganda, etc. If you have ever been to the balloon rally in Albuquerque, NM...it would be similar but with millions of balloons all over the US. Nobody could ignore such activity in the sky.


[Oh, don’t be shy. Rent the Goodyear Blimp!]



oh I like it! A transportation demonstration. airplanes and balloons.....maybe also helicopters too. Or just extend it to all forms of transportation: buses, cars on highways, tractors.



[Jet Skis! Roller Skates! Segways! Surfboards! Pogo Sticks! Scooters! Planes! Trains! Automobiles!]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-06-07 ("I'm about to have a votergate orgasm!")

Ohio certifies it electoral votes for Bush today and you would think that the DUmmies would be in the depths of Depression. But no! Take a look at this DUmmie THREAD where the DUmmies are haveing orgasms of delight over....just WHAT???? Nothing specific only some FEELING that vote fraud in Ohio will suddenly be proved and that states electoral votes and the election victory will be given to John Kerry. Let us now take an acid trip down Fantasy Lane with the DUmmies as they leap for joy even as their last hope is about to die out. As usual, the DUmmie Delusions are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, feeling as if he is sitting in an analyst's chair is in the [brackets]:

I'm about to have a votergate orgasm! Doesn't it seems like the stars are finally aligning and things are about to explode???

[Bev Harris must be tickling your V Spot.]


No matter what we find the courts will rule in favor of their new masters. Yes, we can prove to the world and anybody in the USA who will listen that the election was rigged and stolen, but this government decided the outcome months ago and will not allow such matters to divert it.


[Our court system has this strange little idiosyncrasy. They demand that you present evidence, not fantasy.]


We Don't need the governments approval. We don't NEED their allowance of it. We will accomplish our goals anyway. Cause we are DU. We are unstoppable. We will plow through any obstacles in our way. We WILL NOT give up. We WILL NOT give in. We WILL NOT let them get away with this.

[Yeah but you need your orderly's approval to even leave your ward.]


We wouldn't have to call 'smirking chimp boy' President for the next four years, and everyone will know why.


[Good question. WHY???? WHY are the DUmmies suddenly have votergasms on the very day that Ohio's electoral votes are certified for Bush? Thus far in this thread I've seen not a shred of evidence of vote fraud presented. Or perhaps you merely visualized your own reality of vote fraud.]


This is going to be a battle of increments and attrition. At no time do I expect a single telling blow to be landed.

[What about the blow that landed on your head?]


Slowly, a damning pattern is emerging in the public eye.

[Yes. Mass delusional insanity amongst the DUmmies.]


I'm fluctuating between this being just a really low point in American history and this being the beginning of the end of our nation. Gonna go buy some more gin now.


[May I recommend Thunderbird, Vintage 2004. Either that or antifreeze will do.]


We're starting to see a multitude of organizations trying to shut down the discussion. They are ramping it up to shut us down.

[Or, more likely, laugh you out of existence.]


There is a kind of "tipping point" that may make something happen fairly swiftly. If the entire Bushco regime begins to look just too too dirty entire networks will need to distance themselves in a real hurry - if only for classic market reasons.

[The tipping point of your rationality was already reached long, long ago...and in another galaxy.]


And slowly but slowly he and his personal band of "evil doers" will lose all trust of the people. It will be slow but it will be brutal. They have come so close to having it all, in fact they may still get away with it, but if they do not their downfall will be large and loud. The best part will be the total discrediting of each and every one of them and the fact that we can finally fix our system of election so that we can again really elect our leaders. I continue to have visions of orange jumpsuits, it is about the only thing that makes me smile these days.





[That smile will be wiped off your face once you see that the person wearing that jumpsuit is Bev Harris who will be frogwalked into jail for fraud.]


We are not out to sway the government. We are not out to try and convince them "oh pleaseeee, government, we know you did it, oh Pleasssssse admit you did something wrong and leave? Oh prettttty pleasseeeee government".... Not exactly what we are out to do I wouldn't think. No. We will not sway them, we will convict them. We will not ask them to leave, we will have authorities do it via handcuffs. We will not fail in our mission. We will not fail our democracy. So help us God.


[LOL! I nominate this post for entry into the Delusional Fantasy Wing of the DUFU Hall of Fame.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-05-04 ("Will Kerry become president?")

The answer to the title question of this DUmmie THREAD, "Will Kerry become president?" is something that many DUmmies just don’t want to face. Unfortunately for them, tomorrow Ohio certifies their electoral votes for Bush and ANY CHANCE of Kerry “winning” the election completely evaporates. Of course, that won’t stop Bev Harris and Jesse Jackson trying to shill money from the suckers by making them think they can reveal vote fraud. And it also won’t stop many DUmmies from visualizing their own reality of a Kerry victory. So take a wild trip with me down psychedelic lane to watch the DUmmies in all their glorious delusions. As usual, the comments of the acid trip DUmmies are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, watching the bad trip, is in the [brackets]. First we start with a rare case of common sense from a DUmmie:

Will Kerry become president?





[A visitor from another planet viewing JUST DUmmieland would conclude that a Kerry victory is INEVITABLE. But continue with the rest of your post…]


Lots of threads on DU about election fraud and recounts. A lot of us are expressing hopes -- in some cases, practically amounting to conviction -- that fraud will be proved and that recounts will result in Kerry being declared the winner.

It's just not going to happen.

I wish fervently that it could. But surely it's clear that, with the connivance of the media and people like the Sec'y. of State of Ohio, the end result will be that Bush will be sworn into office on Jan 20.

I hope that everyone involved keeps fighting and trying, and I don't want to be a wet blanket, but let's be realistic. The bastards have everything under control, and they're not going to let things change.

[Yes, we have those Diebold voting machines preset to the Republican candidate. Voting is futile. Therefore, please stay home on Election Day in 2006 and 2008. All your BBVs belong to us.]


Kerry conceeded, why would he want to be president now?


[To score hot interns?]



It looks bleak. But something could happen tomorrow that changes everything. What if a whistleblower with name recognition who was in on it got sick of Bush's bullshit and decided to put an end to him?



[What if Tinkerbell dumped Pixie Dust on your stem cells?]


God knows the guy doesn't know how to treat people. There have got to be people who know all about this and can't stand the guy, and are trying to figure out a way to out him. Brad Menfil may be full of shit, but it is true that if our suspicions are right, then there's no way it can be kept a secret forever. When that happens, you will see something like the Ukraine on crack and steroids here.


[We are already seeing Uranus with a crack here.]


If fraud can be proven and if all Dem go to the streets like they do in Ukraine, things can change. But Democrats are mostly weasels lacking the fighting spirit. That's why we can not prevail over the right wing fanatics.


[Resistance is futile! Give up and return to your spider holes!]


I remain optimistic...there are "Temporary Restraining Orders"...and "War Crime Charges," and power of the people (as in Ukraine), and...I think it's NOT January 20 yet, so we're all just guessing for now. I'll wait until then, thank you. A lot has started to happen in the last week especially.



[Yeah, Bev Harris has been banned from DUmmieland so you could say that progress is being made.]


Moveon and Bev Harris will prove Kerry got more than 3.5 million votes than * and Kerry will become our president in January.


[And all Bev Harris needs to prove that Kerry beat Bush by over 3.5 million votes is MORE MONEY. Send it to her, NOW!!!]

Once the votes are certified and the Electoral College votes, it won't matter what anyone shows about the actual vote numbers. From that point on, the machinery rumbles on automatically toward inauguration.


[But isn’t that all just technicalities? Bev Harris said on the radio the other day that she can continue to raise money even if these things happen.]



Say 'Temporary Restraining Order'...The Electoral Vote can be put on hold by a T.R.O. in Ohio (or any state) due to pending Fraud suits being filed, and already filed. And last time (remember "Farenheit 911"), no Senator came forward to contest the Certification. This time, we're working on that. Email every Senator you think might stand up, and stop the process.



[Yeah, just put a restraining order on the Electoral College. Then have Michael Moore promise to sit on top of any senator who doesn’t stop the process.]



George W. Bush DID NOT win the popular vote; he didn't win the election. He IS NOT President. However, no matter if he does somehow manage to hang on to his usurped office, at least when the fraud is revealed, we won't have KKKarl Rove and his ilk crowing about their "political capital"..or their "mandate". Let F*cktard finish his four years; at this point Kerry would be walking into a mess not easily cleaned up (Iraq, the economy, etc.) that was created by Shrub, let those who broke it try to fix it. Not to mention the fact that his many criminal acts leave him vulnerable to impeachment.



[And realitity isn’t real. Please let us know when you return, if ever, to this space/time continuum.]



Can a minority congress somehow filibuster up an impeachment? How much political capital would they use up doing such an action?



[All of it. But at least it would make a capital comedy act.]


I don't think there's any way Kerry can defeat him. No one is going to be able to PROVE fraud. Come on, does anybody in the United States really believe that Ohio would set aside the outcome of the election. I'm not sure if Jesse Jackson knows this, but HE wasn't the candidate, John Kerry was!! Maybe if Kerry was out there yapping like Rev Jackson, there might be more crdibility to this whole thing!


[And what a tremendous level of credibility Jackson has!]


While the various anomalies and problems in this election need investigating, this battle is over. It's like sending your remaining battleships to chase the Japanese fleet after Pearl Harbor.


[More like sending your SUNKEN battleships to chase the Japanese fleet after Pearl Harbor.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-04-04 ("Best shots at beating the Republicans and winning the Presidency in 08")

The Dummies are already looking forward to the next presidential election and, as you can see, they are no less delusional. When you forward Jesse Jackson’s name as a viable candidate there just are no limits as to your depths for delusion. So let us all take a psychedelic trip into Dummie punditry as they speculate on their candidates for ’08. As usual, the Dummie delusions are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent is in the [brackets]. Let us first look at the candidates promoted in this Dummie THREAD titled “Best shots at beating the Republicans and winning the Presidency in 08,” posted by DUmmie Constitution:

The Greens are gloating because the Democrats seem to hate their party right now so much that they are expecting a dramatic increase in membership. Many people I know are simply going decline to state. I'm one of the decreasing number staying with the Democratic Party. However, if a good non-Democratic candidate looks like he/she could beat the Republicans in 2008, I'll probably vote for that person. Make no mistake, 2004 was a dream come true for potential independent candidates. Though the next four years will be a disaster, the Democratic Party may very well have already destroyed itself.



[One can always hope but continue, DUmmie Constitution...]


The best hope the Democrats have is to come up with a candidate who is idealistic and someone who inspires loyalty. Of the candidates in the last election season, Dennis was the only one, outside of Kerry, whose people stayed loyal to him through the convention. He released his delegates and they still voted for him. He also had the advantage of appealing to people outside the party and of pulling them together into a coalition that would eventually support the nominee. He kept getting endorsed by people who were not eligible to vote for him in the primaries…


[Like convicted criminals? How sad that they could not vote for the Evil Elf. Please go on, Dummie Constitution…]


The disadvantage Dennis had was he was the victim of a news blackout that did not affect the other candidates. The press was afraid that if most people knew anything about his positions, they would support him. He was the clearest alternative to Bush of all the candidates. His supporters will not have an easy time getting past that news blackout but they have four years to let America know who he is and what he stands for. Going door to door would be a good idea….



[“Hi! I’m Dennis Kucinich, the Evil Elf. I am ringing on doorbells to bring you my message of a Bolshevik America.” Please entertain us more, DUmmie Constitution…]


In the Senate, the person with the best shot is minority whip Dick Durbin. Durbin's voting record is one of the best. He often votes with Kennedy. Durbin is will become an instant hero if he leads the filibuster against Gonzales and contests the 2004 election.


[Continuing the failed policy of Tom Daschle sounds like a winner. Give us more, DUmmie Constitution…]


The other best option from the House is Bob Filner. He was the only white person to walk out of Congress in 2001 to protest the seating of the Florida electors. His voting record is excellent. He is one of the co-sponsors of the Department of Peace legislation. He is from San Diego and always has an easy time getting re-elected in a conservative district. He is one of the Congressional leaders in the fight to contest the election. He is looking for a Senator to join in.


[I can already see Filner’s ’08 bumper sticker: “Vote For The Delusional White Guy.” More comedy, Dummie Constitution…]


The kind of person who would have the easiest shot against the Republicans would be an idealistic rabble-rouser like Jessie Jackson but without the personal baggage. He's taken the lead in supporting voter rights and civil rights and continues to be a national hero. He is also the best speaker in the Democratic Party. He is one of the few people whose age will not affect his popularity. However, he needs to convince the religious community that he has cast aside some of his wild personal ways and is now a loyal husband. I have no doubts that he can do this with style and turn the issue into sermons. I also have no doubts that he could beat any Republican opponent in a landslide.


[Please let us now what kind of acid you are dropping, DUmmie Constitution? It must be high grade stuff to give you such a wild psychedelic trip. And now a final parting word from this DUmmie…


Of course, if John Kerry wins the 2004 election, he will be re-elected in 2008.


[I guess you dropped that acid on Nov. 2 and still haven’t woken up. And now other DUmmies weigh in on ’08…]



Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean. I could go with this. By 2008 most of the country will realize what a mistake they made in smearing Dean who will have been proven right on all issues.



[Delusional/Wacko or Wacko/Delusional.



You're missing the most obvious choice! Wes Clark! He still has thousands of loyal supporters. He was anti-Iraq War. He appeals to moderate Repubs and Indys in spite of being very Liberal. He can talk about faith and family values without sounding phony. He appeals to Security Moms. I could go on and on.



[Do you think that Wes Clark will blink his eyes at least once by the time ’08 rolls around?]


there will be no 2008 for the Democrats unless we win the election fraud battle of 2004 . . . by uncovering and exposing every single incident of voter fraud and convincing the masses that the voting system has to be changed . . . without that, we could run Jesus Christ in 2008 and we'll still lose . . . as long as Republican corporations control the voting and the vote counting, we have no chance in hell of winning another national election . . .


[Hmm….Can we expect a “Jesus ‘08” bumper sticker?



I thinks sometimes the politicos as represented here don't represent the rank and file dems as a whole. I see what you see. I also see people whom I never heard talk about politics before saying that Bush is a Hitler, that there's no way he won Ohio. I'm talking church going moms and dads here.



[Better exit that acid trip right away or you could suffer permanent brain damage.]


Dean and Clark have their high points and I liked what they did at the grassroots level, but if you truly want change and growth, Dennis is the way to go.


[Evil Elf ’08.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-03-04 AM Edition (Bev Harris BANNED From DUmmieland!!!)

Just how nutty do you have to be to be banned from Dummieland for being incredibly annoying? Perhaps we should ask Bev Harris because she was BANNED today for being too bonkers even for the DUmmies. Methinks this is the beginning of the end of Bev’s con artistry. Her sources of funds are drying up. No longer allowed to shill in DUmmieland and even Randi Rhodes hasn’t been mentioning Bev lately. Could we be far away from Bev Harris doing the Frog Walk into jail for fraud? I think not. I only wish you folks could have heard the Steve Kane (Steve Kane Radio Show) interview with Bev and Kathleen from BBV. Every sound emanating from them just oozed of money worshipping fraudulence. But now let us join the Dummie THREAD in progress in which Bev is being banned. As usual, the Dummie yelpings are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, enjoying the banning ceremony, is in the [brackets]. The banning ceremony begins with the Dummie administrator reading off the charges against the accused, Bev Harris:


Over the past two years Bev Harris has received a great deal of support from the members of Democratic Underground, in her research, publicity efforts, and fundraising. In return we have played host to an 18 month-long squabble between Ms. Harris and other verified voting activists, and have even been threatened with lawuits by Ms. Harris herself. Despite this, we have publicly remained mostly silent on the verified voting squabbles.

We believe verified voting is a topic of crucial importance, and have been uncomfortable taking sides on an issue which, frankly, we should all be on the same side of anyway. Therefore we have kept most of our correspondence with the various factions private and attempted to cool things down behind the scenes. Like all issues discussed at DU, we have tried to focus the discussion of verified voting on the topic at hand, and not on the personalities of the participants. However, in light of the recent troubles, we feel compelled to make a statement.

In 2003 Bev Harris, along with a few other verified voting activists, were banned from DU for engaging in personal squabbles on the message board after they were repeatedly instructed to stop. Around that time, Ms. Harris threatened us with a libel lawsuit, claiming that we could be held responsible for comments made by other message board members who doubted the credibility of her project. She never followed through on this threat and we never heard from her lawyers.

Ms. Harris was reinstated shortly afterwards, after agreeing to put an end to the problems that got her banned in the first place. Nonetheless, those problems periodically recurred after her reinstatement. A few weeks ago, Ms. Harris again used our website to threaten DU with lawsuits, in her postings, in private messages to other members, and in rude alerts she sent to the moderators.

We sent a message to Ms. Harris telling her to stop hassling our moderators and members, and informing her that if she had a legal concern, she needed to contact us directly. We also let her know that her continued participation on this message board was dependent upon her behavior. The legal threats stopped, but we received no response from either Ms. Harris or her lawyers.

This is our personal experience with Ms. Harris. We cannot confirm or deny the veracity of claims made by others, including many former colleagues, her former publisher, and Keith Olbermann. But we can confirm that the claims made by others about Ms. Harris are not inconsistent with our own experiences.

We have remained as patient as possible in our dealings with Ms. Harris because we believe that the topic of verified voting is a crucial one. We were prepared to sacrifice a certain amount of tranquility on the message board if verified voting was being discussed in a generally positive manner.

Ms. Harris's recent spat with Keith Olbermann has made positive discussion of verified voting increasingly difficult on DU. For over a year and a half, our members have been split into pro- and anti-Bev factions, and recent events have only exacerbated that division. Yet this morning Ms. Harris returned to DU and started posting as if nothing had happened, while making liberal use of the alert button to complain to the moderators about our enforcement of the message board rules. At this point our patience finally ran out.

The fact that the disruptions have continued, despite repeated warnings from the administrators, leaves us with no other option but to bar Bev Harris from posting on this website. We no longer believe that it is productive to allow her to use DU as a platform to promote herself while simultaneously trashing us, our moderators, and others who have been previously supportive of her cause.

We still remain firmly committed to promoting discussion of verified voting, and we wish Ms. Harris well in her efforts to shed light on this important issue. From now on, we encourage all of our members to focus on discussing the verified voting issue itself, rather than the personalities involved.




[I recommend that Bev Harris be studied by medical science. You can be the most complete wack job but still remain a DUmmie in good standing. Yet Bev was so incredibly annoying that she gets banned from DUmmieland. Yes, scientists need to study the Bev Harris brain. Truly a marvel in disfunctionality. But now let us hear the DUmmie Peanut Gallery weigh in on the Bev Harris Ban situation.



Way to throw the Baby out with the Bathwater. I am a apalled that Markos and the DU moderators sit in front of their computers, within reach of their coffie, within easy driving distance (at least) of their beds, and trash Bev, who is OUT THERE, ON A LIMB, RISKING the WRATH of the IRS to PUBLISH here and at KOS.




[You’re sure right about Bev risking the wrath of the IRS. She filed BBV as a non-profit organization and yet she doesn’t even report on how much dough she suckered out of folks like you DUmmies even though she is required to do so by law. Oh, and don’t forget to send Bev even more of your money. Those 5 star hotel rooms don’t come cheap.


I feel that Bev has pretty much accomplished the main part of her task, now it is up to others to continue the work of investigating the recent election to see how such corruption was put into action and how far it went in fixing the election results.


[She sure has accomplished the main part of her task. And now all Bev needs to do is use the money she conned out of the DUmmies to film her documentary that she plans to market. Unfortunately for Bev, her dreams of an extended Caribbean vacation will probably have a 10 year pit stop in the prison yard.]


I am extremellllllly relieved to find that the top of DU is this objective and that my personal beliefs on the situation were not in fact as far off center of DU culture as I feared.


[If your personal beliefs are not far off the center of DUmmie culture, then you have BIG problems, Bud.]


Content, but no delivery. Just as I suspected. I wondered why there was so much activity--dozens of lawsuits, press releases, etc.--but no real traction or breakthroughs in local or federal courts or in the court of public opinion. I donated to BBV because I believe in the project, but I have been wondering if they are managed by the emotion/anger of the cause rather than a sensible, credible plan. Bev's pprobably amazingly overwelmed in this high stakes game and has lost some composure.

Has anyone else wondered why Bev just doesn't seduce many people into "believing" despite having a tremendously compelling cause? I think she is on solid ground in asserting that these voting machines cheat voters and candidates, and I know this is of interest to most Americans, press included. Where are the breakthroughs in garnering support?

It seems that Bev has problems getting along with others. She seems like someone whose anger needs containment so that her credibility and the credibility of the cause can be where it needs to be at such an important time in history. If she comes across looking like a loose cannon, then the merits of her--and OUR--cause get dismissed.



[Even though Bev has problems with Anger Management she was still able to con you out of your money…..sucker!]


DU is so awesome it is vital we protect it's integrity.


[DUmmieland protecting its integrity is like Paris Hilton maintaining her virginity.]


She spent more time at DU than at her own website.


[Bev knew the best sites for harvesting suckers.]


Lending unquestioning support to an egotistical PR personality is never a good idea.


[Too bad that egotistical PR personality will never refund the money she scammed from the DUmmie suckers.]



Some people just do not work well with others. Too bad really, where would she be without DU?



[At Motel Six instead of 5 star hotel suites.]


As one who spent hundreds of hours doing legal research for BBV during the years 2002 and 2003, I too am appalled by the events over the course of the last 18 months. Many of us feel very used. More important, many of us are hurt and angered that this issue has been reduced to ego.


[Actually the issue has been reduced to money. And don’t expect to get yours back from Bev, sucker.]



I have been a supporter and find this unfortunate...I see now that unless Bev changes her ways and shows PROOF ...N O W ...that she is on the up and up..she risks much work by many being dumped into the annals of conspiracy..We ALL know that not to be true..you can be crazy but you have to back it up with PROOF...SHOW THE TAPES NOW BEV...My friends and I have contributed lots of money and I am really upset at her!!! **********To the DU staff...from now on PLEASE let us know of problems like this so we can make better judgements on WHERE to put our hard earned money...



[BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You get easily conned out of your money, sucker, and then expect the DUmmieland caretakers to serve as your guide? Why do I have a strong feeling that you will be easily conned AGAIN? Oh, and I would recommend that you place your money in a safe investment in the future such as the Brooklyn Bridge Toll Bond. It is a bond to raise money to make improvements on the Brooklyn Bridge and turn it into a profit making institution by charging tolls. Each bond holder will in effect own a piece of the Brooklyn Bridge. Let’s do lunch sometime so I can sell you a share of the Brooklyn Bridge.]


The only thing I don't understand is how does she have so much time to harass people here, when she's suppose to be up to her ears in this voter fraud stuff? No wonder she missed the deadline for filing that lawsuit in FL.


[Because she knew that DUmmieland was where the money wa at. And you can’t expect Bev to waste money on hopeless lawsuits when she has much more important expenditures to make such as 5 star hotel suites.]


I have been a practicing astrologer for many years and had done searches for Ms Harris' birthdata on the internet with no success in these past weeks. I'm not interested in anything other than just her birth date(if you have anything else, such as place or time of birth that would be great, but it's not necessary). I'd be curious to know what sort of planetary problems she is dealing with.


[Right now Bev’s moon is rising in Uranus.]


I, personally, don't know all that many people that threaten lawsuits when sleep deprived.


[Threatening lawsuits is a well known stress reliever.]



Without DU, she wouldn't be doing ANYTHING in Florida. DU was Bev's springboard and remained her greatest avenue to solicit. (She even solicited TODAY on DU!)



[DUmmieland was Bev’s biggest source for suckers.]


I contributed to her site after the election, and, while I did not take an active role in the discussions about KO and Bev, I was thinking that, as a donor, I, as well as all other donors, deserved some evidence of the fruits of our donations. And, I noticed that she talked about additional expenses today...and requested more donations. I wondered about this as we hadn't really seen any evidence that our money was really at work. I believe in this cause, but I am not sure that it is being well-served by Bev and her group. I feel used. But, as they say, "live and learn"...



[The only thing you deserve as a “donor” to Bev is our mocking derision. You’ll live but you definitely WON’T learn. Oh, and could I interest you in the Brooklyn Bridge Toll Bond project?]


We will know soon enough exactly how much money has been donated and exactly how much she is paying herself. I did some research today on her 501(c)3 and found a web site called Guide Star. I was able to get her EIN number. It looks like she got her IRS classification this year so the tax records are not yet available, but they will be after she files this year. This is a free website to use and you can check any charity's financials. I will be curious to see the report.


[So will the prosecution team.]



What I have suspected all along is that...she took donations from people supporting BBV efforts, and then did the "activism" part, which will then be used in the documentary. So basically it appears that the 501c3 is propping up the profitable business. They are disconnected on paper, but only on paper.



[BINGO!!! And I am now in a state of shock that there is actually a DUmmie who can connect the dots.]


My only personal experience with her was a few weeks back when she was haranging DUers who were just trying to help her with threats about suing them over the use of the term "Cleanup Crew" which I frankly doubt could possibily be trademarked or copyrighted since it is such a generic term.


[Perhaps but don’t you DARE ever type the letters “BBV” or you will face a massive lawsuit from Bev.]


I wouldn't give her a dime. I haven't but I directed some of my wealthier friends to. They gave as a result of the results of the election and not knowing where to turn. I am beginning to think she may have preyed on our desperation.



[Such are the skills in the con artist arsenal. Know thy mark.]


I was getting sick of her DU fundraising.or should i say having DU finance her lil movie. Florida was stolen AGAIN!!..Bev was only cashing in on it.



[Coming soon to your local movie theater: “Diary of a Con Artist.”

DUmmie FUnnies 12-03-04 AM Edition (MORE Civil War!!!)

The bitter Civil War over Keith Olbermann vs Bev Harris is becoming quite protracted since SIX DUmmie threads have been devoted thus far to this epic battle. This edition of the DUmmie FUnnies covers the latest DUmmie THREAD of this Civil War. Oh, it is ever so much fun watching my DUmmie Ant Farm lately since, in addition to building Vote Fraud tunnels that lead nowhere, the ants are viciously attacking each other. DUmmie Leader Skinner has promised some sort of a statement concerning this Civil War soon and we are waiting for it with bated breath. Also of note on this thread is that it contains the first known DUmmieland reference and link to the DUmmie Funnies!!! As usual, the DUmmie self-inflicted wounds are in bloody Bolshevik Red while the dispatches of your humble war correspondent from the battlefront are in the [brackets]:

From my detached perspective here in Canada this looks like a classic infiltration of an activist movement.

Perhaps Feds caught wind of the growing BBV community and sent in Bev and her crew to spy on it.....

When she saw that it was rather disorganized, and decentralized, she saw an opportunity to gain a leadership role and did so by co-opting the work amassed here on DU and elsewhere. Then she exploited as many personal contacts as possible to put out a book that launched her into the BBV spotlight.

At which point she seized control of the direction and culture of the debate by discrediting all others involved every chance she was given the access to the media her book awarded.

Now that the BBV movement was off chasing phantoms in a theory, directly under federal control, real planning of bbv fraud could begin.

Nov 2 Bev and BBV were given a new assignment ....Stall. Obfuscate and most importantly....Run out the clock!






[Uh-Oh! This DUmmie has discovered that Bev Harris is really a Karl Rove plant. Yes, Rove planted Bev Harris into the BBV movement and drain them of their money by convincing them to send oodles of cash to Bev.]



I do think anyone that posts here on either side should give something. Because we're ultimately on the same side! I've done it; who's next!



[Hello? Hello? Any more suckers out there willing to give more bucks to Bev?]


Why do people have so much sympathy for Harris? She volunteered to play in the big leagues. Anyone who asks people to soften or bend the rules, or act and think out of loyalty to them is either not ready to play in the big leagues or is playing a different game then they claim to be playing.

There can be no doubt that right after the election Harris allowed many here to see her as a savior, and that generated a lot of donations. People did not think that they were donating money to help her in her ongoing personal crusade and career, they donated money thinking that this was the best way to stop a stolen election. Harris has encouraged that thinking.


[Oh. I thought they donated money thinking Bev would luxuriate in 5 star hotels.]



One thing you can say for sure about these threads...it's provided the real freepers with a few laughs:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1293221/posts

Nice going, folks. Can either side really state that it's been worth all the effort (and flames) expended? I ask as a genuine neutral party to this affair. The answer has eluded me thus far.



[WOO! HOO! Thank you DUmmie T Town Jake for providing the first known link from DUmmieland to the DUmmie Funnies!!! When the DUmmie FUnnies comes out as a book, you get a free copy!]



Yes it is worth it. Who cares what they think. Olbermann has 125% more views. And, bbv is facing the scrutiny of main stream exposure. If she can't hold up to it we should know now before she gets to speak for all of us.


[Yes, it is definitely worth it. The material this DUmmie Civil
War has provided to the DUmmie FUnnies is PRICELESS!!!]



Could someone have called posing as Bev? How can Keith be sure that the caller who was so belligerent was really Bev Harris? I wouldn't put it past the GOP to engage in a dirty trick here.



[Actually it was Karl Rove calling in with a falsetto voice.]



after the message she posted to a DU member last month....I find it easy to believe she was "belligerent."



[And remember not to type the letters, “BBV,” or Bev will sue your ass.]


I have no way of proving who is right in this flame war. But I do know one thing. I have seen Bev act in a mentally unstable fashion before. I have never seen Keith fly off the handle at anyone. When it comes down to this choice, I'll believe Olbermann over the lady that used to make a living selling penis sized Clinton Cigars.


[Weren’t those the Clinton Crooks cigars?]


I have found Bev Harris and the Votergate film crew to be quite amiable, although sometimes quite busy. I was in fact interviewed in the film before they left, and suggested they head for Florida. They did that. Mr Olbermann should end the feud. Bev is quite nice on film and would do a convincing interview.



[Interesting. Wherever Bev goes she is accompanied by the Votergate documentary film crew. But Bev said she is NOT making a documentary. So that would mean that Bev has no stake in Votergate. I BEEEELEEEEVE Bev. I mean, she wouldn’t LIE to us. Uh…..would she?]


Bev:

Black Box Voting requests retraction from Keith Olbermann, along with an explanation of why MSNBC alleged such an untruth. We have given Olbermann the opportunity to correct his factually flawed editorial by having Bev Harris appear on his show.

Keith:

Blow me


[LOL!!!]



In light of how she handled the DU issue, I am not inclined to take her side. Keith Olbermann is one thing, but according to what I've read in the other threads on this issue, she threatened to sue the owners of DU. Not cool, IMO. If I were Bev I may have gotten "belligerent"--but then I would have got my ass on that show and shown the tapes. Even if they called six months later.



[Bev had good reason to threaten the DUmmies with lawsuits. They committed the high crime of typing “BBV” on their keyboards. This atrocity can NOT be permitted!!!]


As far as I am concerned, ask yourselves what is most important at this point: proving you are right and Bev Harris is wrong, or putting your money on the horse most likely to win? At this point, we ALL have one goal, despite our differences, and that is to prove election fraud. Bev Harris' organization, whether you like it or not, has the most visibility in this struggle.


[Yeah. Go ahead and bet all your money on the Bev Harris horse. Hee! Hee!]


I like Keith and I like his show. I can not separate my knowledge of Rove and that this type of war between Keith and Bev is a perfect Rovian storm. Psy-Opps is all about media manipulation and Rove is a master of it. Olbermann et al are the puppets - love em or hate em, the MSM talking heads are indeed used, weather knowingly or un-knowingly. BBV has exposed a lot of crap over the past few years. BBV has always fought an up hill battle with the MSM. After what happened to Palest in 2000, I take anything from the MSM with a very light grain of salt. Olbermann - NO EXCEPTIONS. Ask yourself, why is it so hard for the MSM to question the GOP's insistence on paperless voting machines (Fraud) when ALL Diebold ATM's provide paper so that you see your money was not stolen? Not even the beloved Olbermann had brought up this ridiculous and obvious point. Don't be surprised to see a retraction of all and any hints of voter fraud from his show after Dec 13th. Otherwise - Please, prove me wrong.


[I won’t try to prove you wrong but I will compliment you on providing a PERFECT Freeper screen name---“A_Perfect_Rovian_Storm.”


I think Keith is resolved to the fact that the chances of overturning this election are very slim, and he doesn't want to alienate the president any more than he needs to by focusing on issues of Republican fraud. The increased ratings of his show and the resignation of other major news personalities means he has the opportunity to break into the nightly news business in a big way. I'm sure he will continue to report on items which make the news regarding lawsuits being filed and recount results, but don't expect him to probe very deeply.


[And then there is the wild theory that even Olbermann’s deluded mind was able to perceive that Bev is nothing but a sleazy con artist and he wanted to disassociate from her pronto.]


Thank you all for your lack of perspective and strategy, your stalwart drama-fits, your overriding black-and-white view of huge sweeping concepts like "the mainstream media", your overall paranoia, your lack of getting out much. Thanks to you, another important issue sinks into obscurity, one more issue we get to complain about and have people go "what are you talking about?"


[But thanks to you for all the GREAT DUmmie FUnnies comedy material!]



It is obvious Bev has a history of being disagreeable and she tried to make Olberman her latest victim. Sorry this dog won't hunt. The only thing Rovian about this is Bev's ego. One of her people is even spouting that she didn't need Olberman, he needs her. I give up this is too stupid for words. And you can't accomplish anything without MSM even if you don't like them. That is reality folks.If it wasn't on TV it didn't happen. And Bev just screwed the pooch and is TV poison. And if Olberman retracts anything she will have given him the excuse to do so. End of story.



[Poor dog! Which pooch did Bev screw?]


There are literally thousands of messages on the Bev/Keith topic.


[Yes! Isn’t it terrific?]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-02-04 (CIVIL WAR: Keith Olbermann vs Bev Harris)

DUmmie Civil War has broken out again! Like the previous Dummie Civil War covered in the DUmmie FUnnies this one also involves Bev Harris of BBV scam fame. This time, however, the DUmmie antagonists are gathered around general Bev Harris vs general Keith Olbermann who unexpectedly attacked her last night on his MSNBC show. You can view the internecine warfare on this DUmmie THREAD titled “Olberman/Harris.” As usual the DUmmie battlefield attacks are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble war correspondent is in the [brackets]. And now let us join the opening shot of this war as DUmmie Amerdem lobs an artillery shell about Olberman vs Harris onto the battlefield:

I'm not sure at this point what is going on but something stinks to high hell on one side or the other. Olberman starts this by going out his way to slam Harris last night on Countdown. After he is crushed with endless emails he devotes his blog to rationalizing his decision. Bev follows up in her reply basically calling everything Olberman said a lie. We didn't expect any of this from either one but after hearing both sides so far I have to ask, why would Olberman go so far out his way and actually choose words that follow what the corporate news media having been saying to discredit the e-voting scandal and voter fraud? Why did he all at once single out Bev to pounce on? I'm not liking this at all.

Olberman...."I have not dealt with Ms. Harris directly, but my staff has, and though we have asked her on a regular basis to let us show these tapes on national television, she has declined."

Harris..."Contrary to Olberman's assertions, neither he nor his staff have EVER asked Harris to show anyone the Volusia County tapes. They have not asked Harris to come on the show since November 8. Harris did not come to Florida until November 12."




[Okay, DUmmies! Choose your sides. Do you follow your con artist Goddess, Bev Harris, or do you go into battle with your Kool-Aid swallowing King, Keith Olbermann?]



Easily solved. She could produce the tapes. End of controversy. It sounds like a misunderstanding. I believe that the the MSNBC staff would have asked for the tapes more than once. Why wouldn't they? It is the normal course of events to ask for those kinds of things. Maybe Harris' helpers didn't tell her they'd asked. In any case, all she has to do is produce copies of the tapes. That would have been more effective than a statement saying MSNBC had not asked for the tapes. I would have BOTH made that statement AND produced the tapes, unless there's some reason not to produce them, in which case I'd explain that thoroughly to the public. I see nothing wrong with what Olbermann said, if what he said is true. And I believe it is.



[It looks like DUmmie TexasSissy has signed on with the Kool-Aid guzzling “journalist,” Keith Olbermann. But now an enormous volley coming in from none other than Bev Harris, the con artist supreme, herself….]



Response:

“I believe that the the MSNBC staff would have asked for the tapes more than once. Why wouldn't they? It is the normal course of events to ask for those kinds of things.”

They did not ask me nor any member of my staff. I just spoke with one of Olbermann's producers, Katy Carp, who said "we've tried to get in touch with you."

Any of you who tried to get in touch with me shortly after the election know that the voicemail was full. We did not receive any voicemails and never spoke with MSNBC.

“Maybe Harris' helpers didn't tell her they'd asked.”

Our "helpers" are me, Andy Stephenson, and Kathleen Wynne. None of us were called by MSNBC about Volusia.

“In any case, all she has to do is produce copies of the tapes.”

OK. Please go ask Greg Palast to produce all his investigative material during the middle of his investigations. See what HE says.

Also, please ask litigators to produce the evidence they are presenting at trial so you can put it on the Internet. They will tell you to go jump in the lake.

“That would have been more effective than a statement saying MSNBC had not asked for the tapes.”

The truth is, MSNBC never asked for the tapes.


“I see nothing wrong with what Olbermann said, if what he said is true. And I believe it is.”

What he said is not true. Provably so.

Thanks for playing, and we are delighted to know we are getting close to something sensitive. (harassment calls and bogus news stuff suddenly ramped up during the last 24 hours).

Bev Harris

Executive Director

Black Box Voting Inc.




[Come on, Bev! Produce those tapes! Hey, the DUmmies need something for you to show after all that dough they blew on your “non-profit” organization.]


Those with clear heads are behind you, Bev. Please please please please PLEASE keep up the good work.



[Please please please please PLEASE keep on sending her more money…..sucker!]


When I first watch Olberman last night bring this all out I was taken back and kinda smelled a rat. It just didn't add up. Here we had Olberman as one of the few getting this story out then he puts out basically a hit piece on you, one of the best and few people who have been there to fight this from the beginning.


[Maybe Olbermann started choking from drinking all that Kool-Aid served up by the BBV scam.]



Why would Olbermann lie? What's his motivation? That's what I can't figure out.



[It could be that Olbermann woke up from his coma and his brain started functioning again at 10% capacity.]



Why would Olberman use wording that every other corporate media talking head has used to discredit the e-voting scandal? Why would Olberman all at once choose to go after Bev as hard as he did last night? Did you watch Countdown last night? I did and I was taken back at how he went after her. It seemed so out of the expected.

A quick answer that immediately comes to my mind when you ask why he would lie...How about keeping his job or just perhaps someone talked with him and let it be known things can happen. Yes, it is a guess but after watching what has become of the our supposed unbiased news over the last few years I think it's anything is possible.



[Perhaps Olbermann was deprogrammed by Karl Rove and then reprogrammed with a vast right-wing agenda.]



He has always shown integrity and I'm very grateful we have someone like Olberman on our side but to compare corporate media today to what it was back in the Clinton era is like trying to compare an apple to an orange. Through out the year we here have talked openly about what is probably going on behind the scenes of these corporate news outlets. Anything is possible, anything. I suggest you read thru this thread for Bev's replies and ask yourself why anyone in her position ( she doesn't get paid for doing what she has done, she states here there is NO documentary in the works etc.) would have a reason to lie. It seems to me she would have loved the opportunity to get this message out whenever she could. Also, Olberman himself admits to canceling her. Why would he cancel someone so involved in the e-voting scandal as Bev?



[Why would Bev Harris lie unless maybe she was pulling off a scam? Naw! It just can’t be! Not OUR beloved Bev.]



Bev - it is extremely important to patch things up immediately. Our cause and yours is not served by misunderstandings that could be easily resolved. All it does is create a fester for people of ill-will to exploit. Time is running out quickly. Please reassure the people here that support both you and Keith.



[Such a reassurance will be forthcoming…but only with a donation.]



Thanks for posting Bev! Daaaaamn. I missed Olbermann last night and got on DU this morning and SHIT HAD HIT THE FAN! I believe in you, Andy and Kathleen!



[HALLELUJA! I BEEEEEELEEEEEEEVE IN BEV! I beeeeeleeeeve in her so much that I will empty out my wallet and send in all my dinero to her!]



I'm trying to figure it out. One of them is obviously lying unless there is a huge miscommunication between them. So... who has reason to lie? Let's l