"I'm DONE!!! Democratic Party can go to hell for all I care"
This may well be the angriest the DUmmies have ever been. That's saying something. This is Howard-Beale-mad-as-hell mad. This is Yosemite-Sam-steam-coming-out-his-ears mad. That's mad.
What are the DUmmies upset about? Their own Democrats. The health care bill their Senate is about to pass. Why? THERE'S NO PUBLIC OPTION!!! DUmmieland is about to IMPLODE!!! They're all ready to LEAVE the Democrat Party, even though they're posting on DEMOCRATIC Underground!! It's a mutiny! It's a riot! It's . . . Situation Normal, except more so.
Right now DUmmieland is FILLED with outraged threads. I've picked the current "Greatest," the one sitting atop the leader board, namely, this gentle and thoughtful THREAD, "I'm DONE!!! Democratic Party can go to hell for all I care."
So grab a blood pressure cuff and let us witness the implosion, in Apoplectic Red, while the mellow commentary of your humble guest corresponden, Charles Henrickson, counting down the days to November, is in the [brackets]:
I'm DONE!!! Democratic Party can go to hell for all I care
[They're working on it.]
Letting Joe Lieberman rule and laugh and not do a thing about it. Giving that lying sack of sh*t chairmanships and leverage while folks are dying.
[Little Joe is not a popular figure in DUmmieland today.]
I've been through good and bad on DU since 2001, but this was the most disgusting, hurtful thing I've had to witness in politics.
[More disgusting than a Barney Frank fundraiser?]
You can bet your ass I will not donate to DNC or anyone associated with this mess. I might even sit out this election.
[Promise?]
Joe should go. gimme a dozen more Kucinich's, then we'll get some "change".
[Like a robust public option for men from Mars.]
Maybe Obama enjoys sharing the presidency with Joe.
[Barry wants to spread the wealth around with Joe the Insurance Agent.]
Let's see the Democrats 'get tough' for a change
[GET TOUGH, CREAM PUFF!]
Why is he not listening to voters and health care advocates like Howard Dean and the people who have screamed and hollered first for single payer then for at least a strong public option?
[Howard Dean, the Howard Beale of the Democrat Party. YEEEEAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!]
There are quite a few pissed off DU'ers here
[Democratic Understatement.]
This is the saddest day I can remember for being dem. . . .
[Cue the photo of the Crying DUmmie.]
Outrage is too tepid to describe my feelings.
[This is Elin-Nordegren-golf-club-in-her-hands mad!]
We've been had.
[We be mad.]
"F***ing Livid" works for me in times like these.
["Times like these" = every day I've ever been on DU.]
I have been carrying Obama's water here for weeks and now I'm done.
[No more H2Obama!]
I cannot believe how pissed and betrayed I feel.
[Not me. I BELIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!]
I did not expect a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress to force every American to have to purchase from a corporation their healthcare.
[NOBODY expects the Expanded Imposition!]
IT MAKES YOU REALIZE YOU'VE BEEN CHUMPED
[Chumpy McDUmmie!]
We got seriously PUNK'D.
[PWNED!]
I see nothing but a burning bag of dogsh*t.
[Blue Dogsh*t.]
I'm about ready to puke on my computer.
[That's called "pulling a Pitt."]
now I'm prepared to vote against all my incumbents in the primaries if possible, but in the general for sure. If the Democrats won't help me get a better candidate in the primary, I'll vote Republican just to encourage other Democrats to run next time.
[Thanx!]
I'm really PISSED!!!!!
[Happy place, happy place. . . .]
We start campaigning for Kucinich for president 2012 and we start right now.
[Yes! Go for it!! "THE EVIL ELF FOR EQUAL HEALTH!!"]
You need a serious reality check if you actually believe that Kucinich has any kind of chance.
[Reality never stopped anyone in DUmmieland before.]
I want Kucinich to start a new party. . . . I want it to be a new left party of course..even call it the New Dem's or something. . . .
[Kookcinich can start the "Unidentified Fighting Oddballs" (UFOs).]
Democratic Underground should change a few ground rules and then change its name to Progressive Underground.
[Sorry, "PRUmmies" doesn't work.]
The message we send to the dems, when we continue to vote for the lesser of two evils, is that they can continue to betray democratic values because we'll continue to vote for them. It's total insanity. I don't think the dems realize how incensed the base is at this betrayal & that we have reached our boiling point.
[The Dems are the Per-DU Boilermakers!]
we need a leftist party in this country. . . . now all we need is a name for said party.
[The Whigged-outs?]
we need a cool mascot though. like a velociraptor.
[Sorry, you can't have our beaver!]
As long as it's waving a red flag, that's fine.
[The Soviet flag is available.]
Registered with the Socialist Party of Florida (Democratic Socialists, like Bernie Sanders in Vermont) a few weeks ago.
[Let's see, "Socialist Underground". . . . "SCUmmies"?]
We've been duped!
[DUped, I tell ya!]
I can't remember ever being this disgusted. . . .
[What about the Barbara Mikulski Swimsuit Issue?]
I will never vote for another democrat. . . .
[May your tribe increase!]
Health care "reform" that = a mandate to buy private insurance + expanded war + no jobs =
[THE FORMULA OF DISCORD!!!]
I won't get fooled again.
[Until next time.]
No more driving Dems to the polls on election day. . . .
[They'll have to WALK from the cemetery now!]
I feel sick to my stomach.
[EASY, Will! Slow down! The night is still young!]
The Democratic party will never get another dime from me. . . .
[Not One Dem Dime Day!!!]
We don't even exist.
[Did somebody say something?]
We cave, we placate, we let Leiberman stay meanwhile Republicans can have sex with prostitutes who are found dead and THEY GET AWAY WITH IT!
[In fact, they get away with it SO MUCH that . . . NO ONE HAS EVER HEARD OF IT!]
Yes, we've elected a bunch of feckless, gutless, corrupt jackasses to both houses of congress.
[But they're OUR feckless, gutless, corrupt jackasses. . . . This DUmmie will keep voting Democrat.]
Gutless bastards. . . . I am beyond disgusted. . . . We are stuck with a bunch of lying, sniveling pieces of crap. . . . They can all go f*** themselves...I just get angrier and angrier the more I type. . . .
[DUmmie ramapo, you win today's Peace, Love & Tolerance Award®! Congratulations!]
I feel sick.
[Hit the porcelain, Will!]
the mods have got their .22s cocked and ready. There's a whole lot of tombstonin' goin' on.
[Cocked and coded!]
Thankfully the mods are way to smart to mistake people venting genuine and understandable anger for trolls.
[Unless the mods themselves are . . . LOUSY FREEPER TROLLS!!!]
Great. Let's welcome the f***ing GOP back next year.
[I, for one, welcome our f***ing GOP overlords.]
Bye now, I'll let you all go back to your rising blood pressures. From what i've read here, i see a couple of nervous breakdowns, 1 heart attack, and three strokes in your futures. Hope you got good HEALTH INSURANCE!
[Hee! Hee!]
posted by PJ-Comix at 12:22 AM
48 Comments:
You ready for this, dumbshits?
There's a bill in the senate regarding health-care that will mandate purchasing from one of six corporate entities. If this bill passes and you don't purchase it, you will be breaking the law. You'll be fined. What happens if you don't pay the fine is A GOOD FUCKING QUESTION.
Another thing...if your provider decides to drop you, your only option will be to lawyer up, if you can afford it.
Isn't that great news? You all happy about that?
Here's the deal - both the DUmmies and the RepubliDUms are signing off on this. Both.
I, troglaman, just can't fucking wait to hear you all put this in right vs. left perspective. When you do, consider yourself a dumbass. It's actually about the money. You know I'm right. And the sooner we all get wrapped around the fact that these people will fuck us dry until we stop them, the sooner we'll come around to solving the goddamn problem.
Ummm, which party is it that controls the House and Senate again...?
TROGLAMAN - The Official Hate Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe of the DUmmie FUnnies Blog Site - power-slammed his head squarely up his ass and emitted the following pile of worthless mental excrement:
"There's a bill in the senate regarding health-care that will mandate purchasing from one of six corporate entities. If this bill passes and you don't purchase it, you will be breaking the law. You'll be fined. What happens if you don't pay the fine is A GOOD FUCKING QUESTION.
Another thing...if your provider decides to drop you, your only option will be to lawyer up, if you can afford it.
Isn't that great news? You all happy about that?"
Well, nice to see that you discovered this, Guttersnipe. After all, this has only been known for the last six months or so.
As I said the first step to fix this whole problem is to summarily reject the Senate bill and the House bill and DO NOTHING. Then you can start working on actual reform. The problem is the Troglaman Clones don't want to reform the system, they are after power and glory, and to hell with everything else. They do not want to fix the system, they want to destroy it so they take charge instead of the evil insurance companies because they are smarter than you.
Once again - reject the Senate and House bills. Just flat out reject them...no amending them, no compromises, just REJECT THEM.
It is funny to watch the Moonbat / Troglaman Clone base of the Democratic Socialist Party of America (DSA) go batshit crazy. They honest to God think they are the core of the country, and it's just amazing to watch the insane unleashe their rants in public like this.
They refuse to understand that their point of view was summarily rejected when the Moonbat DSA candidate for Senate in Connecticut was beaten by Lieberman who was running as an "Independent". The reason Lieberman is in the Senate is that the DSA and their Moonbat base are out of touch with the true mainstream of America. Evidently the only lesson that will drive that home will happen in November 2010 when they are thrown out of power in Congress by the outraged public they have screwing blind without mercy since January 2009.
Yay!!! Lil' troggy for chairman of the SCUmmies! Yippee!
Skul
Checking out these comments has been SERIOUSLY entertaining. Seeing these folks throw tantrums like 3 year olds who can't get their way is absolutely hilarious. I love it!!
Mmm mmm mmm.
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But, but you "dumbshits are on the sidelines"...There goes troglaman's wishful thinking that America is a democratic mob rules type of govt.
Yes, we've elected a bunch of feckless, gutless, corrupt jackasses to both houses of congress.
Another DUmmie puts down the bong and realizes exactly what he helped elect. But it was only one year ago that these same DUmmies were celebrating in anticipation of the coming progressive utopia: free health care, peace, eco-justice, the expropriation of private wealth, Bush and Chaney in chains. Sad, deluded boobs.
Howard Dean was on TV last night and (for once) he was right. This health "reform" bill is an absolute stinker---something that all thinking people have to oppose.
Congress is incapable of writing a reasonable health reform bill that would increase coverage and save money. They can't do it, they're beholden to too many special interests with conflicting agendas; they can't keep track of whose asses they are kissing.
So the Left is in turmoil: fatso Moore is calling for Joe Leiberman's recall. Howard Dean is pimping the White House with his call for the health care bill's defeat. The DUmmies have gone bonkers---now they're talking a socialist third party. Go for it.
Despite all their sputtering rage, the DUmmies aren't going anywhere.
They're too lazy to start a third party too stupid to ever vote Republcian. So where are they going to go? Despite all the brave talk, come 2010 they'll be good little proles and pull the lever next to the name with a (D).
Classic DUmmieism from "Harvey007":
I shelled out $25 for Obama, worked for him, wore his T-shirt, put his sign in my front yard, made phone calls, etc. etc. now I feel used and dirty.
Jeebus, this DUmmie reads like a high school junior writing in her diary. She went to the football team's beer party and woke up the next morning with a hangover and compromised virtue.
Gee Troggy, Got yer ponytail tied a little tight today? This is your congress, isn't it? These are your guys, your wonderful representatives, your soul brothers, eh?
Oh, wait a minute.....
As long as there is one Republican in the congress, it is controlled by those EVIL corporations.
Hang out til 2010.....there'll be a few more. More Independent Conservatives and Conservative Dems, too! How's that grab ya?
What......you just figure out they want to jail you for not acquiring health insurance? A little behind the times aren't ya? Yep, there some change you can believe in, huh?
Left-over hippie retards should NOT be allowed near sharp objects and stale peyote...
Well. Well. Well.
The mighty troglaman says "I... just can't fucking wait to hear you all put this in right vs. left perspective. When you do, consider yourself a dumbass. It's actually about the money. You know I'm right."
And what happens? The mighty troglaman gets a magic sparkle pony delivered to his doorstep. A glittering avalanche of partisan explainations that can only be enthusiastically described as a Christmas miracle.
First up, dumbass (real surprise there)..."Ummm, which party is it that controls the House and Senate again...?"
#2 - "It is funny to watch the Moonbat / Troglaman Clone base of the Democratic Socialist Party of America (DSA) go batshit crazy." jerome
#3 - "There goes troglaman's wishful thinking that America is a democratic mob rules type of govt." stignob (Yeah, I troglaman have been all about mob rule)
#4 - "They're too lazy to start a third party too stupid to ever vote Republcian." elrond
#5 -"As long as there is one Republican in the congress, it is controlled by those EVIL corporations." (empty)jarheadUSMC
Well Ok. Thanks.
If you don't know that both the RepubluDUms and DUmmies are cornholing you, you're so fucking stupid that there's no hope. You have to pray that you're reincarnated as an insect and can make your way up the Karma pole relatively quickly (insects don't live long).
Welcome to the age of corporate rule. The US Senate is about to offer up legislation that makes it illegal to not buy a commercial product - health insurance.
Here's the part you're not catching up to - the RepubliDUms are totally cool with this.
And so are you self-destructive dumbshits for unfathomable reasons.
I'm not kidding when I tell you that I just don't get you dumbasses. I fucking don't.
But I know this. If you don't know that both parties are painfully ass-fucking you and your children, you're damaged. Somehow.
This isn't a partisan problem anymore. It's not one or the other parties, it's both. How could it be anything else?
Single-payer saves money and keeps people healthy. Every other developed country in the world uses single-payer. Why? Because it works. Why is this so fucking hard to get? It works. We're surrounded by governments, including the evil communists, that successfully employ universal health care and IT WORKS.
I challenge one of you to tell me differently (remember that I, troglaman, never get into an argument I can't win and I guarantee I'll win this one).
It comes down to doing the smart thing. The pragmatic thing. The logical thing. The proof is all around us, right before our eyes (and that's why'd you'd like to take the bill back to square one, right elrond? Doubt it). Why is this so fucking hard? Everyone else has it figured out.
Why not us?
Answer that dumbass, jerome, elrond, jarhead. Why does every other developed nation not have a problem here? Why aren't they all debating the problem like we are?
Answer that, chickenshits. Why isn't the rest of the world embroiled in a debate about private vs socialized health care? Why? It couldn't be because they've already figured it out, could it?
Bring it on you stupid dumbfucks.
Poor widdle troggy got his facts AND thong AALLL in a knot.
Too FUnnie.
Get 'em troggy boy, sic 'em.
Priceless.
Skul
"Why does every other developed nation not have a problem here? Why aren't they all debating the problem like we are?"
Here's one good reason why socialized care won't work; And yet for some reason you believe it will with OUR money? Also, do you know why the U.S.A ranks as one highest for for neonatal mortality? Clue, it's govt. run insurance for the low income. Why don't you hear all those stories from the MSM how well the Canadians/Brit's love there system, because they don't...There's a point when govt. gets to big troglaman. Hell, if this ball of crap gets passed through just being born in the USA institutionalizes you, by big bro to have insurance, now tell me exactly how's that's Constitutional? One can go their whole life and not pay car insurance or even SS, this beast is totally different...I agree the politician pimps have sold us out to the insurance industry by removing the anti-trust exemption.
In fact, Medicare fraud - estimated now to total about $60 billion a year - has become one of, if not the most profitable, crimes in America.
This story may raise your blood pressure, along with some troubling questions about our government's ability to manage a medical bureaucracy.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/23/60minutes/main5414390.shtml
"Single-payer saves money and keeps people healthy."-troglaman
You believe this and you call US stupid?
Hmm, Troglasshole, I think I see your basic conceptual problem here. You actually think you 'Win' arguments when people just get tired of telling you how FUBAR your thinking is, and stop responding to your tuants and ravings, and then you 'Win' by posting a final tirade.
Sad, really.
I am going to post this response similar to the style used for the DUmmie FUnnies post. Guttersnipe's (Trogalman's) comments will be in [ITALICS]. Plus, due to the fact this system only accepts 4,096 characters, it will be done in mulitple parts.
Part One -
[The mighty troglaman gets a magic sparkle pony delivered to his doorstep. A glittering avalanche of partisan explainations that can only be enthusiastically described as a Christmas miracle.]
The only miracle is that you were able to type any of your crap as addled as your brain is. "Mighty Trogalman"...what a pathetic joke that statement is. More accurate is "Guttersnipe The Clueless". In fact that does fit you a lot better, glad I thought of it.
[First up, dumbass (real surprise there)..."Ummm, which party is it that controls the House and Senate again...?"]
If stating facts makes him a dumbass, what does the flith-laden BS you ladle out make YOU, Guttersnipe? At least he understands reality, something you always respond to by power-slamming your head up your ass.
[#2 - "It is funny to watch the Moonbat / Troglaman Clone base of the Democratic Socialist Party of America (DSA) go batshit crazy." jerome]
Like I said....it's funny to watch the DSA base go batshit crazy. Glad you agree, Guttersnipe.
[#3 - "There goes troglaman's wishful thinking that America is a democratic mob rules type of govt." stignob (Yeah, I troglaman have been all about mob rule)]
Thanks for confirming what we already know Guttersnipe. It's a given that if you back the DSA - which you do - then you back mob rule, because they are a mob...a mob of Moonbats whose leadership is using tactics like a Mob Family, which makes sense coming from Chicago as they do.
[#4 - "They're too lazy to start a third party too stupid to ever vote Republcian." elrond]
Elrond is correct.
[#5 -"As long as there is one Republican in the congress, it is controlled by those EVIL corporations." (empty)jarheadUSMC]
Insulting a Marine is a good way to lose what few teeth you probably have left, Guttersnipe.
[Well Ok. Thanks.]
Yeah, whatever...
Part Two -
[If you don't know that both the RepubluDUms and DUmmies are cornholing you, you're so fucking stupid that there's no hope. You have to pray that you're reincarnated as an insect and can make your way up the Karma pole relatively quickly (insects don't live long).
Welcome to the age of corporate rule. The US Senate is about to offer up legislation that makes it illegal to not buy a commercial product - health insurance.]
Well, thanks for blithely howling the groupthink of the Moonbats, Guttersnipe. What it makes it illegal to do is not have any insurance, which will be only from the Federal Government since this whole plan will destroy the private insurance agencies on purpose making it simple - buy from the Feds, pay a fine, or go to prison.
[Here's the part you're not catching up to - the RepubliDUms are totally cool with this.]
Here's the part you refuse to comprehend due to a frighteningly shallow intellect - the GOP is not totally cool with this, Guttersnipe, they simply don't have the political power to stop it. If the DSA is hell-bent on getting this done, they will, end of discussion. It's power politics, Guttersnipe, and the fact you're just too damn stupid to comprehend it doesn't matter. The DSA has the power and they will get this done if they've a mind to, and frighteningly, they don't care about the public and will likely get it done, ram it down our throats and to hell with the catastrophe it will cause.
[And so are you self-destructive dumbshits for unfathomable reasons.]
You can't fathom what others think because you're unfathomably stupid.
Part Three -
[I'm not kidding when I tell you that I just don't get you dumbasses. I fucking don't.]
Oh, we know you're serious, Gutternipe, believe me. As often as you power-slam your head up your ass and spew mental excrement from one end of this blog to the other, we know you are too intellectually shallow and morally corrupt to understand most of the people who post here. So, yes you sick perverted jerk, we know you're serious when you don't understand. You can't and won't. So no real need to belabor the obvious, Guttersnipe.
[But I know this. If you don't know that both parties are painfully ass-fucking you and your children, you're damaged. Somehow.]
The only thing damaged is you. It's not both parties...it's the Liberals, the Moonbats and the Republicans who put party ahead of principal acting in coalition that are doing it. And that can be stopped by voting in conservatives.
[This isn't a partisan problem anymore. It's not one or the other parties, it's both. How could it be anything else?]
Spoken like your moniker - Guttersnipe the Clueless. Anyone who is using their head for something other than a hat rack (which cuts you out Guttersnipe) knows it is a partisan issue. The two sides are the Moonbats and the conservatives with the Liberals and gutless politicians caught in the cross-fire. If the Liberals and gutless politicians side with the Moonbats, they are dead men walking politically. Some realize this and won't commit political suicide, but sadly a lot of Liberals don't care and will back the Moonbats.
Part Four -
[Single-payer saves money and keeps people healthy. Every other developed country in the world uses single-payer. Why? Because it works. Why is this so fucking hard to get? It works. We're surrounded by governments, including the evil communists, that successfully employ universal health care and IT WORKS.]
Yeah, if you call rationed care, letting the elderly die, offering people with life-threatening diseases suicide pills because treating them isn't cost-effective, a total lack of medical innovation and a nightmarish increase in the death rates for certain diseases a system that works to keep people healthy, you're right Guttersnipe. Thing is no one with any brains or morals want a system like that. If that system is so damn wonderful, why are people in those countries coming here for what you claim is sub-standard care? Why don't you and your fellow Moonbats and guttersnipes head to Canada, Cuba or Europe for their medical problems? Why didn't one of your guttersnipe heroes, Chris Dodd, go to Canada or Cuba to get his prostate cancer treated instead of inflicting himself with the criminally sub-standard care found here in the USA?
You want what works? Fine, give up your American citizenship and go to Cuba. The system is perfected in Cuba according to one of your fellow Moonbats, Michael Moore - The World's Most Dishonest Fat Man. You'll love it there I'm sure.
[I challenge one of you to tell me differently (remember that I, troglaman, never get into an argument I can't win and I guarantee I'll win this one).]
Consider yourself told, Guttersnipe. And by the way, power-slamming your head up your ass and whining out BS with false bravado and vile invectives doesn't make you someone who never loses an argument. Since you've never truly engaged in one here, I side with Tanker. You delude yourself into thinking you win arguments by unleashing one last hate filled tirade. Sorry, Guttersnipe, but you are way out of your intellectual depth this time and you're getting shown up because of it.
Part Five -
[It comes down to doing the smart thing. The pragmatic thing. The logical thing. The proof is all around us, right before our eyes (and that's why'd you'd like to take the bill back to square one, right elrond? Doubt it). Why is this so fucking hard? Everyone else has it figured out.]
You tell us since you're one of the very few who are intellectually and morally incapable of doing so you sick perverted jerk.
[Why not us?]
You mean why not YOU - most of the rest of figured it out a long time ago, you would rather power-slam your head up your ass instead of face reality you moral coward.
[Answer that dumbass, jerome, elrond, jarhead. Why does every other developed nation not have a problem here? Why aren't they all debating the problem like we are?
Answer that, chickenshits. Why isn't the rest of the world embroiled in a debate about private vs socialized health care? Why? It couldn't be because they've already figured it out, could it?]
No, you sick pervert, it's because those other countries don't have the level of freedom we do. Or at least still have unless the Troglaman Clones in the Congress get their way. They also have societies where Socialistic systems are the norm. This country was set up to be the exact opposite which and your ilk detest and are too morally corrupt to deal with.
[Bring it on you stupid dumbfucks.]
You have gone to great lengths to prove you aren't the drunken fool I thought you were. You're sick perverted jerk who is an evil hate-monger, Guttersnipe. The fact you insist on engaging in "debates" with lies, BS, and vile explitives in an effort to fake intelligence only underscores your sick perversion.
The only stupid people are you, Guttersnipe, and anyone who thinks like you. You will never win any debate because you are mentally and morally incapable of understanding what the heck you're trying to discuss.
You lose...you'll always lose.
"You will never win any debate because you are mentally and morally incapable of understanding what the heck you're trying to discuss." jerome
Fuck you. Not one of you stupid stupid dumbshits explains why it (single payer) works everywhere else but here. Not one. Know why? You can't. This discussion is a prime example of your heroic imbecility. It's breathtaking.
And you're mentally and morally OK with 45000 deaths a year because of a lack of insurance, jerome? You and Jesus? Once again, fuck you. Your meager (and wordy) attempt at possessing the moral high ground is pathetic. Embarrassing.
Why does it work everywhere else but here, motherfuckers? The only way you can defend a completely upside-down, morally bankrupt, blindingly corrupt system...is just how you all did it. Nobody hates America like you dumbshits. That's become abundantly clear. It's a game for you. Hooray for our side.
$6000 per year, per family member. Fuck yeah!!
Another 10% to 15% premium increase next year. Fuck yeah!!! America Rocks!!!
My brother in law lost his job and had to sell his house because his daughter has cystic fibrosis. Fuck Yeah!!!
Nationalized health care is cheaper. Everybody else does it. It works. And you astonishingly stupid people don't want to do it.
Care to take issue with just one of the above statements?
And try to keep it under 200 words or so for Christ's sake (lookin at you, jerome).
"$6000 per year, per family member. Fuck yeah!!
Another 10% to 15% premium increase next year. Fuck yeah!!! America Rocks!!!"
"The Senate bill stipulates that two unmarried people, 52 years of age, with private insurance and a combined income of $60,000, $30,000 each, will pay a combined cost of $2,483 for medical insurance," Quist wrote. "Should they marry, however, they will pay a combined cost of $11,666 for insurance — a penalty of $9,183 for getting married."
http://www.citizenlink.org/CLtopstories/A000011651.cfm
Some facts you're ignoring or ignorant, you figure it out.
Here's your socialist care at work;
About one in 10 hospitals already deny some surgery to obese patients and smokers, with restrictions most common in hospitals battling debt.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1576704/Dont-treat-the-old-and-unhealthy-say-doctors.html
Here's the deal, your utopia govt. funded health care won't work in the USA. Why? Because we're FAT! We have most obese cultural on the planet. You cannot compare France to the USA, we need to change our habits of slothfulness.
Please explain why the health care industry has been granted the anti-trust exemption? See this whole mess was created by same assholes who now think they can fix it and you're falling for it.
Once again, it takes awhile to wade through all of Guttersnipe's bilge, so....
PART ONE -
TROGLAMAN - The Official Hate-Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe of the DUmmie FUnnies Blog Site - power-slammed his head up his ass repeatedly like a jackhammer and emitted several noxious piles of worthless mental excrement:
"Not one of you stupid stupid dumbshits explains why it (single payer) works everywhere else but here. Not one. Know why? You can't. This discussion is a prime example of your heroic imbecility. It's breathtaking." - Guttersnipe (aka TROGLAMAN)
For the second time, Guttersnipe - if you call rationed care, letting the elderly die, offering people with life-threatening diseases suicide pills because treating them isn't cost-effective, a total lack of medical innovation and a nightmarish increase in the death rates for certain diseases a system that works to keep people healthy, you're right Guttersnipe, it works. NO ONE IN THIS COUNTRY WANTS THAT SYSTEM YOU SICK PERVERT. NO ONE. The only imbecile is you, Guttersnipe, because you refuse to accept reality. You want the old to die in agony, you want people to get rationed care, and you want the American health care system destroyed.
"And you're mentally and morally OK with 45000 deaths a year because of a lack of insurance, jerome? You and Jesus? Once again, fuck you. Your meager (and wordy) attempt at possessing the moral high ground is pathetic. Embarrassing." - Guttersnipe
Like most sick twisted perverted Moonbats, Gutternipe you just pull a number out of thin air and claim all these people are dropping dead because they have no insurance. First off, if that were true, this problem would have been dealt with a long time ago because no one would stand for it. Second off, health care is not a right. Thinking people plan in some way to deal with this sort of thing. If not, it's their choice and suffer the consequences. And once again you replace logic with vile invectives and call it intelligent. That is what is truly embarassing and why you're incapable of carrying on, let alone prevail, in any debate.
"Why does it work everywhere else but here, motherfuckers? The only way you can defend a completely upside-down, morally bankrupt, blindingly corrupt system...is just how you all did it. Nobody hates America like you dumbshits. That's become abundantly clear. It's a game for you. Hooray for our side." - Guttersnipe
It only works here, Guttersnipe, you pervert, you're the one who's blind. It needs corrections but it works only here and no where else. Power-slam your head up your ass all you want, but you're not entitled to your own facts. The USA has the best system. Destroying it as you are demanding is not a solution.
"$6000 per year, per family member. Fuck yeah!!
Another 10% to 15% premium increase next year. Fuck yeah!!! America Rocks!!!"
- Guttersnipe
Only if you and your ilk get your way in Congress, Guttersnipe.
"My brother in law lost his job and had to sell his house because his daughter has cystic fibrosis. Fuck Yeah!!!" - Guttersnipe
Kinda sad to see you're happy to see that happen to your brother, Guttersnipe. But blame The Obamassiah, he's the one who's destroying the private sector and who is going to insure that the private health care coverage your brother had will never be available again. The Obamassiah's plan will likely also insure your niece's death, and the fact you are supporting that is what makes you sick and perverted.
PART TWO -
"Nationalized health care is cheaper. Everybody else does it. It works. And you astonishingly stupid people don't want to do it." - Guttersnipe
It's only cheaper when you stop covering items or ration them. It works by denying or delaying action until the requester dies. Anyone who thinks that is a system that works is sick and perverted. And anyone who wants that system imposed on this country is astonishingly stupid.
"Care to take issue with just one of the above statements?" - Guttersnipe
Actually, I take issue with all of them.
"And try to keep it under 200 words or so for (EXPLETIVE DELETED) sake (lookin at you, jerome)." - Guttersnipe
Thanks for confirming you have pathetic reading comprehension skills and that you have the attention span of a fruit fly.
"And try to keep it under 200 words or so"-troglaman
After the monologues you've written here in the comments section, I hope you didn't write this with a straight face.
"Not one of you stupid stupid dumbshits explains why it (single payer) works everywhere else but here" -troglaman
Jerome (et al.) It doesn't matter how many times you explain something to troglaman. Those pesky trees keep getting in the way of the forest he says he wants to see.
Anonymous said...
"Not one of you stupid stupid dumbshits explains why it (single payer) works everywhere else but here" -troglaman
Jerome (et al.) It doesn't matter how many times you explain something to troglaman. Those pesky trees keep getting in the way of the forest he says he wants to see."
Good point...for some reason tho, I've just gotten tired of his deliberate stupidity, and I don't abide fools, so I'm just going to beat him over the head with the truth like it's a two by four until he catches on or shuts up.
"Here's your socialist care at work..." stignob
Really? Is it already at work? Because I could swear the liberal socialistic communists have only been in power for about a year. And their fighting like crazy to just change health care a little itty bitty bit.
But stignob's saying the change has already magically taken place. The communists have, tragically, already taken over and passed socialist health care legislation. He probably also thinks Iran has already set off a nuke in Philadelphia.
Anyone else see the problem here? Probably not.
"But blame The Obamassiah, he's the one who's destroying the private sector and who is going to insure that the private health care coverage your brother had will never be available again." jerome
Thanks for remembering my brother. I mean it. It's cool that you thought about it.
But he didn't have private health care insurance. He didn't have shit. His for-profit hospital discharged him at 2 in the morning knowing he was dying of liver failure.
The Catholic hospital down the street took super good care of him. Hospice and everything. Private health care had nothing to do with this equation. Charity, that dirty socialistic, Jesus-like concept, was a much bigger factor.
Once again, the perception that the "Obamafactor" has destroyed "the private sector" is so fucking crazy as to be funny.
The current senate health care bill will give the insurance companies between 30 and 40 million more customers. And that's an attack on the private sector? No. It's not.
I appreciate your nice thoughts about my brother. But you seem to have framed this issue upside down.
"It doesn't matter how many times you explain something to troglaman. Those pesky trees keep getting in the way of the forest he says he wants to see." anon
Finally. Someone who's boiled it down.
Call me stupid, but could any of you tell us all why the rest of the world has this figured out and we haven't?
I only ask because every other developed country in the world has socialized medicine. And it works. It's wildly popular in the countries that do it.
Except anon doesn't think so. Explain anon. Can't wait. You tell me how socialized medicine in France, Canada, Germany, Norway, the Netherlands, Italy, Cuba, Denmark, Australia, Viet Nam, China, Brazil, Italy, Russia, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, England, New Zealand, etc, is soooo fucking stupid. Spell it out.
You can't. Know why? Because it's working there. Not one of the citizens from these countries would listen to you, anon, and think you're anything more than a barely functioning baboon.
As usual, you're peddling bullshit, you psychotic bitch. All the way around. Maybe your next topic could be how man and dinosaurs coexhisted.
When you can't debate dance, juke and jive around the issues like there never were any pointed out. Then you take one quote out of context shows your childish nature of what kind of agenda you want. Debating with you is like talking to a plant. Sorry, you've lost this one.
I'm gonna shoot in the dark here, you're one of the F A T ones, correct? And those God for bid evil for profit companies made me do it! Pathetic.
<< Charity, that dirty socialistic, Jesus-like concept, was a much bigger factor. >>
Charity and socialism have about as much in common as Paris Hilton and the Holy Mother. Charity comes about via voluntary, individual choice. Socialism is neither voluntary nor individualistic in nature.
Refresh my memory: when/where did Jesus instruct us to yield our individual liberty to the whims of the tyranical State?
"Then you take one quote out of context shows your childish nature." stignob (I'm going to name my band after you, dude)
Maybe you haven't been listening, dumbshit. I, troglman, try NOT to fuck up around here. So if you could tell me all about the quote I "took out of context" and became "childish" about, I'd really appreciate it.
It's usually a good idea to provide the quote but there are allowable exceptions for not doing so -
1) You're a pretty flower
2) You're a sparkle pony
3) You're a bothersome homo
4) You're a douche bag
I think you're covered, stignob. No worries.
"Charity comes about via voluntary, individual choice. Socialism is neither voluntary nor individualistic in nature." kirk
You are so fucking full of shit.
Your Police Department? Your Fire Department? These are charity?
And I'm going to take this opportunity to point out (once again) that every one of your senators and congresspeople have socialized health care. And yet they don't want you to have the same thing...charity.
According to stignob, it's all about wholesome charitable contributions vs socialism. That's how he explains your army. Your police. Your fire department. Your road builders. Your building inspectors. Your bridge inspectors. These aspects of civilized life are provided, per stignob, by honest and wholesome charitable contributions.
Just in case you hadn't figured it out yet, stignob's a complete and total dumbshass. But he might look good in a tuxedo. And that makes him dangerous.
TROGLAMAN - The Official Hate-Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe of the DUmmie FUnnies Blog Site - power-slammed his head up his ass and emitted the following:
"Maybe you haven't been listening, dumbshit. I, troglman, try NOT to fuck up around here."
Thanks for defining what TOTAL MISSION FAILURE is like Guttersnipe, because you've utterly completely and miserably failed one time after another when it comes to what you claim you try not to do.
TROGLAMAN - The Official Hate-Mongering Anti-American Guttersnipe of the DUmmie FUnnies Blog Site - power-slammed his head up his ass repeatedly like a jackhammer and emitted the following pile of worthless mental excrement:
"You are so fucking full of shit.
Your Police Department? Your Fire Department? These are charity?
And I'm going to take this opportunity to point out (once again) that every one of your senators and congresspeople have socialized health care. And yet they don't want you to have the same thing...charity.
According to stignob, it's all about wholesome charitable contributions vs socialism. That's how he explains your army. Your police. Your fire department. Your road builders. Your building inspectors. Your bridge inspectors. These aspects of civilized life are provided, per stignob, by honest and wholesome charitable contributions.
Just in case you hadn't figured it out yet, stignob's a complete and total dumbshass. But he might look good in a tuxedo. And that makes him dangerous."
The only person defining those that way is you, Guttersnipe, because you are dumber than a fencepost.
Those are items funded by public tax dollars. Not Socialism, not "charity" (you idiot) but by the public for all to get use from, including sadly someone of your ilk.
Members of Congress do not have "Socialized" health care, they have private health care with limited access.
Stignob has an intelligence level vastly superior to you, Guttersnipe, as your repeated efforts show your utter lack of intellectual depth have only underscored.
"I, troglaman, try NOT to fuck up around here" -troglaman
We'll let you know if you ever succeed.
Trogy, you are one pathetic fool. I feel very sorry for you. Have you tried to get help with your problem? You had better hurry before 0bamaCare goes into effect.
Paul
"Why don't you hear all those stories from the MSM how well the Canadians/Brit's love there system, because they don't..." stignob
Prove it.
I already know you can't. But go ahead, try.
For those of you interested, stignob's about to begin a journey down the long and painful road to the town of "Humiliation" (pop. 1 - stignob) And we can all watch. Isn't that fun? It's like a PJ "Survivor".
"We'll let you know if you ever succeed (in not fucking up)". anon
It'd be more interesting if you could tell me when I've EVER fucked up.
Bet you can't.
But you'll just keep spewing bullshit anyway, anon. I'm certainly not able to stop you and I don't expect to. However, spewing bullshit eventually becomes identified as "spewing bullshit". And I, troglaman, am delighted to be able to report...
"Why don't you hear all those stories from the MSM how well the Canadians/Brit's love there system, because they don't..."
Is complete bullshit. How fucking surprising is that? But you should be used to totally fucking everything up by now. I, troglaman, can understand how you've all become numb to launching yourselves into the stupidity stratosphere...you're stupidity's astronauts.
I say keep on keepin on and everything will turn out fine.
"Those are items funded by public tax dollars." jerome
Jeez.
Why don't you explain the difference between "public tax dollars" and socialism?
We could start there, jerome. You're in for a big hurt.
Prove it.
I already know you can't. But go ahead, try.
For those of you interested, stignob's about to begin a journey down the long and painful road to the town of "Humiliation" (pop. 1 - stignob) And we can all watch. Isn't that fun? It's like a PJ "Survivor".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EPd2i4Jshs
Anything else you'd like me to prove? "Humiliation"? Yea, right.
"It'd be more interesting if you could tell me when I've EVER fucked up."-troglaman
Not enough bandwidth on God's green Earth for that.
"Not enough bandwidth on God's green Earth for that." anon
No, you stupid shit, just provide one (troglamatical error). It won't require any bandwidth at all because All that's needed is just ONE fuck up. One tiny, itty-bitty one.
Ready? Set? GO!!!
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I hate to break it to this blast from the past when y’all were arguing normal stuff, but I am in from 2021. It gets worse!!!! The difference: Demonrats stole an election using Dominion voting machines and have a mentally-failing, faux president as well have a fence with razor wire around The Capitol. There is a pandemic and Demwits cannot launch an effective vaccine program. We play Hunger Gamez to try and get the jab and Depshites let foreign, undocumented aliens with Covid19 into the country to spread to people, to collect benefits and steal jobs. They have run trillions of dollars of debt up the flagpole and America is gone. Just gone completely.
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