Monday, June 15, 2009

"Biden says 'everyone guessed wrong' on jobs number"


Such a reaction would be adequate if you locked yourself out of your car. It happens to most of us at one time or another. However, it is woefully inadequate as a response when you blow nearly $800 billion of taxpayers money on a government program that failed completely. Such was the response of VP Joe Biden on Meet The Press yesterday when he said that "everyone guessed wrong" on the economic stimulus package.


And now the DUmmies are upset that Biden said this out in the open where it is sure to hurt their Beloved Barack bigtime as you can see in this THREAD, "Biden says 'everyone guessed wrong' on jobs number."


And what's with this "everone" bit, Kemosabe? In all of congress only 3 turncoat RINOs of the Republicans (and now one Democrat) voted for the "stimulus package." And of course NONE of those voting for that bill had a chance to even read it. They were urged to vote for it blindly and immediately or else the country would collapse. Of course now Six-Pack Joe is trying to claim that "everyone" guessed wrong. Face it, Joe. You guys GOOFED and now you are trying to spread the blame around.


So let us now watch the DUmmies get upset by Joe's open admission of error in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, watching the Democrats (and 3 RINOs) flush close to a trillion dollars down the toilet, is in the [barackets]:

Biden says 'everyone guessed wrong' on jobs number

[Oops! Spread the blame!]

WASHINGTON (AP) — Vice President Joe Biden said Sunday that "everyone guessed wrong" on the impact of the economic stimulus, but he defended the administration's spending designed to combat rising joblessness.

[We are right, even though we are wrong.]

Biden said inaccuracies in unemployment predictions shouldn't undercut the White House's support of the $787 billion economic revival plan that has not met the expectations of President Obama's team. Instead, the vice president urged skeptics to look at teachers who kept their classroom assignments and police officers who kept their beats because of financial assistance from Washington.

[Translation: Please believe us in the future when we propose to waste another trillion or two when we propose our next massive program.]

"The bottom line is that jobs are being created that would not have been there before," Biden said.

[Many more unemployment case workers that weren't there before.]

But they are not coming at the pace first estimated.

[The pace is picking up...for those entering the ranks of the unemployed. And now on to the DUmmie Peanut Gallery...]

guessed? WTF are these guys doing guessing. Are you kidding me. Don't they have numbers and studies and such. Why the hell would anyone in charge be guessing. GIVE ME A BREAK. These are just more lies to justify the previous lies. Let me take a guess,,,, lets see,,, joblessness will remain the same or increase. It might even go down a little; thats a guess

[Oops! Who let this LOUSY FREEPER TROLL into this DUmmie thread?]

Biden is not just anyone in charge. He is THE guy in charge of tracking the stimulus.

[Don't you feel so much better knowing that our economic future is in the hands of Six-Pack Joe?]

They spent a trillion dollars on a guess?


I am just guessing, but I think the public is not going to like Biden's statement.

[Gee, ya think?]

Biden can go f*ck himself. There were lots of educated people who weren't guessing who called bullshit on these numbers. Those people were told, as usual, to shut the hell up.

[I believe those people are called "conservatives."]

9.4% unemployment isn't that bad. Bush's numbers were worse.

[Hmmm... Worst unemployment rate in 26 years. Simple math would tell me that skips the Bush years.]

U-6, which accounts for discouraged workers, no longer looking is at 16.4%. And it's gonna get a lot worse by September, Joe.

[Say it ain't so, Joe!]

A LOT worse. Aftereffects from GM and Chrysler cuts will begin by
then. Heck, all the primary layoffs are not done from just those two, yet.

[You mean the Lightworker can't just wave his magic wand and spread Pixie Dust on the economy?]

Over 10% is depression type numbers and plenty of states are there.

[There is certainly going to be a mass depression in DUmmieland when economic reality sinks in.]

Hyperinflation is the optimistic scenario.

[A DUmmie spreading happiness and cheer.]

Just read today about the year 1923 and what it meant to be in Germany then. The same half a ham that cost 4 Marks in 1914 soared in price to an amazing 4 Billion marks in 1923. It was almost impossible for cashiers to handle sales - on some days prices went up so much in just three minute increments that by the time you got through the small line at the grocery, what you were buying was significantly more expensive.

[I would love to sell a ham named Joe at any price.]

If proper accountability and reporting had been built into the stimulus, and proper tracking occurred after the stimulus, so much guesswork would not be necessary. Similarly, if proper conditions, accountability and reporting had been built into the TARP, lending TARP money would have begun immediately, TARP money would not have been used for obscene bonuses and $3000 wastebaskets, etc.

[If...If...IF!!! IF only the Congress and Senate were allowed to READ TARP before they voted for it. But noooooo! The Obamatons insisted it had to be voted on RIGHT WAY without any analysis. IF!!!]

They are pissing away money like it's nothing while food banks are emptying out. I am not willing to let them off the hook for so doing incompetently.

[So does this mean you will be attending an upcoming Tea Party?]

When you have been given the information that contradicts your projections and shows them to be false, that is no longer a guess or a mistake, it becomes a deliberate lie.

[GASP! How dare you cast aspersions upon the veracity of The One & Co?]

No, Joe, EVERYONE did NOT guess WRONG. I'm gonna have a stroke here sooner or later dealin' with all the monumental stupidity comin' outta the Obaminable Administration. Hey, JOE, check out the daily Stock Market Watch thread on DU and find out that there have been a whole f*ckin' lot of us who DIDN'T guess wrong. WE KNEW what the hell was goin' on when you were still tryin' to keep your VP chances secret. Hell, Joe, we knew way back when Hillary still had a chance, maybe even before Kerry was nominated. MAYBE EVEN BEFORE THAT SNOT-NOSED AWOL FLYBOY STOLE THE ELECTION IN 2000. Am I makin' myself clear, Joe?

[You almost qualified for a Kewpie Doll...until the next to last sentence.]

You and Barack and Jill and Michelle, you don't need us no mo'. You don't give a flyin' f*ck what we think, what we do, how we bleed and suffer and beg and die. You're a flippin' phoney, Joe. A flippin' lyin' sack-o-shit phoney. Spare me your shock.

[A DUmmie swears off her gods.]

C'mon back to the real world, Joe. Oh, and bring that nice friend of yours, Barack, with you.

[Posted Tansy_Gold from the alternate universe known as DUmmieland.]

This administration lobbied for the second $350 Billion. Obama himself lobbied hard for the first half, making personal phone calls to members of the CBC who had initially been staunchly opposed to TARP. This administration put one of the central players in crafting TARP and the AIG bailout, Geithner, in charge of the Treasury Dept. Of course they deserve some of the blame for the lack of accountability.

[Geithner? Is he even accountable for his own taxes?]

What happens in the next 12 months will really show Obama's true intents. And what I've seen so far, I am hopeful. We DO have to move forward at some point.

[Is that you, Polyanna?]

Problem is, the Obama/Biden/Summers/Geithner/Rubin team IS NOT GOING FORWARD. They're doing all the things that will keep things right where they are. Stagnant. Status quo. Frozen. Paralyzed.

[If a Republican says that on Hardball, Chris Matthews floods the MSNBC studio with outraged drool.]

it's already saved hundreds of thousands of jobs. while the stimulus could have been better, it's certainly slowed the economy's plunge towards the next Great Depression.

[Is that you, Baghdad Bob?]

There's no way whatsoever to calculate whether a job is "saved" or not. They came up with this crap when they realized the stimulus wasn't working, but still wanted to paint a rosy picture despite the country losing hundreds of thousands of jobs a month.

[Your Kewpie Doll is in the mail!]

weapons of mass unemployment.


I like Biden and I support our President, but I hope that employment numbers weren't really just a guess.

[Would it make you feel better if I told you it wasn't a guess but a guesstimate?]

Worse than Dan Quayle....Never thought I'd type those words.

[Never thought I'd send you a Kewpie Doll.]


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amazing. It almost resembles clarity and logic. This must be the most sober moment in their otherwise scatterbrained lives.


9:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

800 billion spent for an estimated (guestimated) 600,000 new jobs. wow! that's only 1.3 million per job. Are the jobs anything like this one?

10:27 AM  
Anonymous Smitty said...

Comes the dawn. Many DUmmies are still in denial, but some have come to realize that the stimulus package is all about pork, it is not about creating new jobs or repairing the "crumbling infrastructure" of America. It is about re-electing Democrat politicians and spreading Chicago style politics to the entire nation.

Sadly, most DUmmies still believe that the Stimulus Plan can be tinkered with to somehow make it work. Pathetic and delusional, they're going over the cliff with Old Joe.

4:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OMG, you got this from the DUmp?

I tell my liberal pals who still like to rant about Bush, "at least I had a job for all 8 years Bush was in office." (My husband and I were laid off in May.) That pretty much ends the conversation.

5:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Problem is, the Obama/Biden/Summers/Geithner/Rubin team IS NOT GOING FORWARD. They're doing all the things that will keep things right where they are. Stagnant. Status quo. Frozen. Paralyzed. " -DUmmie

Let me finish this DUmmie's thought: "But I can't wait to vote for them again!"

Fish in a barrell.

11:06 PM  
Anonymous troglaman said...

"It is about re-electing Democrat politicians and spreading Chicago style politics to the entire nation." itty bitty Smitty

Obama's always said it will take years for the stimulus to take effect. But fuck that.

Coming up on 6 months of the new administration and you pussies are all ready infected by the mixed race guy with no birth certificate, an evil middle name, and a student of "Chigaco style politics" carrying out his evil agenda. So scary. Plus, he's married to an angry black woman. Double scary. It's no wonder you're all shaking in your boots.

Pills Limbaugh, just a day or two ago, equated our current health-care with current veterinary health care. Yes he did. He says vet-care, a pay as you go system, works just fine. Bark while leaving the doctor's office. No shit.

You know how it goes at the vet. If you can't afford the dog's treatment you put it down. Saves money. Just like an abortion. Hmmm.

None of you have said what you think about what's going on in Iran. I, troglaman, am very interested in your take on things going on there.

"And now the DUmmies are upset that Biden said this out in the open where it is sure to hurt their Beloved Barack bigtime." P Jinc

No, we're not. If you'd been paying attention, we're hurting His Holiness with DOMA and DADT right now. And if you'd done your homework, you'd all know Obama quoted Roosevelt and dared the gay community to "make him do it."

Obama's a lawyer. He's been sworn to uphold the constitution and current law. I doubt very much that this president will violate the law and put his ass in a sling. Bush thought differently. That's a fact. Bush/Cheney got their ass in a sling over torture and lying themselves into a war. It's only going to get worse on this front because these type things are big-time illegal. Internationally illegal.

If any of you had any brains at all, you'd be secretly thanking this president for not allowing the rest of the world to graphically 'see' just how fucked up we got...under your watch. I, troglaman, think it's just that bad. The pictures. I think they're THAT BAD.

Don't get me wrong. I think they should come out. Then again, I haven't seen them.

Isn't it conceivable that these pictures are too inflammatory and too cruel? What the hell would you do?

1:22 AM  
Anonymous Ray said...

"Don't get me wrong."

We don't have to get you wrong, Troggy. You do that all on your own.

8:57 AM  
Anonymous Smitty said...


I love the way you build strawmen and then demolish them. It's a real talent.

12:38 PM  
Anonymous Smitty said...

None if you have said what you think about what's going on in Iran. I, troglman, am very interested in you take on things going on there.

Bullshit, you already know what we think. It's just another excuse to rag on everyone who may disagree with your august opinions. Fuck off.

1:52 PM  
Anonymous Krazy Kat said...

"Obama's a lawyer. He's sworn to uphold the constitution and current law."

Richard Nixon was a lawyer too, he took the same oath. What's your point?

But, first of all, Obama is a Chicago politician and no politcian gets out of Chicago an honest politician.

2:22 PM  
Anonymous troglaman said...

"Bullshit, you already know what we think." Smittly

I do? News to me. Seems to me 6 months ago most of you wanted to bomb the fuck out of Iran. I remember. Could it be that you, despite your greatest fears, are experiencing *gasp* EMPATHY with Iranian insurgents?

Welcome to your inner homo, Smittly.

1:57 AM  
Anonymous troglaman said...

"Richard Nixon was a lawyer too, he took the same oath. What's your point?" Kat

That Obama is smart enough to not make the same mistakes...maybe...sort of the same mistakes but maybe not...or something...

It's a really good question, Kat. Smart.

Then again, Richard Nixon was a RepubliDUm. A dumbass. And I can prove it. You can't prove shit about Obama yet because it's all too early. Just is. Sorry.

2:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You can't prove shit about Obama yet because it's all too early."
And even when shit is proven about Obama, it won't make a bit of difference.
It was proved that Comrade Bubba committed perjury in front of a Federal Grand Jury, committed perjury in a civil trial where he was named defendant, obstructed justice by suborning perjury, and committed perjury before Congress.
If you compare the articles of impeachment against Richard Nixon and Willam Jefferson Clinton, Clinton's proven crimes were much worse than Nixon's. Yet, the Republican Congressional and Senate leadership forced Nixon to resign. Clinton skated. What do you think will happen to Black Jesus?

10:36 AM  
Anonymous Elrond Hubbard said...

Could it be you...are experiencing *gasp* EMPATHY with Iranian insurgents

Of course people are feeling empathy for the Iranian protestors, why shouldn't we? Maybe it's our inner, wise, Latina.

3:41 PM  
Anonymous troglaman said...

"Of course people are feeling empathy for the Iranian protestors, why shouldn't we?" Elrond

Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran.

3:16 AM  
Anonymous elrond hubbard said...

Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran.

You inner homo is showing again.

1:00 PM  
Anonymous troglaman said...

You suggesting I'm attracted to McCain?

Nope. That'd be you.

1:32 AM  
Anonymous Elrond Hubbard said...

You suggesting I'm attracted to McCain?

I didn't say that, though it's revealing you raised the question.

It's your inner midshipman trying to get out.

7:21 PM  
Anonymous troglaman said...

You're right, elrond. I haven't yet acquainted myself "midshipman". However, I find the prospect intriguing.

3:32 AM  

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