"Impeachment has to precede investigation"

Yeah, yeah. I know. This is the THIRD DUFU edition in a row on the subject of impeachment. However, I just can't help it. The whole impeachment frenzy on the Left is just such a target rich environment in terms of humor. And every day that goes by makes that impeachment frenzy ever more comedically desperate due to the clock running out on the Bush term. Added to this fact is that the Democrat candidates themselves would not look kindly upon an impeachment proceeding sucking the news coverage air out of their campaigns. The incredible humor derived from the impeachment frenzy can be seen in the very title of this DUmmie THREAD, "Impeachment has to precede investigation." Never mind that it needs to be the other way around since you FIRST have to have charges with which to impeach. But don't tell the DUmmies that since their impeachment misconceptions just increase the comedy value of these DUFU threads. So let us now watch the DUmmies yearn for impeachment so very very badly in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, assuring the DUmmies that the Tooth Fairy will leave an impeachment under their pillows, is in the [brackets]:

Impeachment has to precede investigation

[Trial must precede indictment.]

By Carla Binion

Without impeachment there won't be serious investigation of Bush-Cheney's lawbreaking. Each day these two criminals remain in office, additional victims of their policies suffer and die.

[Impeachment as a mere investigative tool. Continue with the laughs, Carla...]

The administration's war crimes and crimes against humanity -- their ongoing illegal war of aggression and torture policy -- can only be stopped with impeachment and the investigation that would follow.

[FUnnie how you STILL can't come up with any legal charges with which to indict.]

The mainstream press fails to fully inform the American public. Folks who get their information via the Internet and other alternative sources are the only ones aware of the extent of the Bush-Cheney abuses and the need for impeachment.

[Or alternate Dimensions like the DUmmie Zone. You're on a roll, Crazy Carla. Continue...]

The Bush administration's refusal to abide by the Geneva Conventions and comply with the International Criminal Court (ICC) set the stage for its war crimes and human rights violations. As independent journalist Dahr Jamail says in *Impeach the President: The Case Against Bush and Cheney*:


[A quick Google search reveals that this "independent journalist" does reporting for Al-Jazeera.]

"By refusing to join the ICC, the United States finds itself in the company of several other nonmember states with records of horrific human rights abuses such as Libya, Saudi Arabia, China, North Korea, Sudan and Pakistan.

[Shame on us for preferring AMERICAN law over international law dictated by Third World thugs.]

"As many as 192 states are signatories of the Geneva Conventions, including the U.S. -- although the U.S. is blatantly disregarding them with regards to Iraq."

[Okay, we get the point, Crazy Carla. You want to base impeachment on some sort of violation of "international law" because you can't find any AMERICAN law that has been violated. Let's continue the impeachment frenzy laughs now with the DUmmie input...]

I'd like a national count of how many states and cities have already voted to impeach this administration. That would be an interesting piece of national news--if only it would be reported in the CM.

[Let's take a tally. How did Kokomo and Rancho Cucamonga vote on impeachment?]

There is not going to be impeachment without investigation first.

[KILLJOY!!!]

Other than here at DU, the country does not seem to be on fire for impeachment of either Bush or Cheney. If impeachment was of such paramount importance to the majority of this country you would find numerous Democratic representative falling all over each other to bring articles of impeachment because they would naturally be worried about being reelected. There may be widespread support for impeachment, but that support is soft among most Americans. The support for impeachment among most Americans will grow with investigations first, not impeachment.

[A Kewpie doll is in the way to you via snail mail.]

The crimes have been committed impeachment will provide an open forum for the public to hear, thats the problem imo MSM but it will be difficult to hide or twist the facts there and yes it needs a 3/4 majority in the Senate but with the facts in the open for all to see lets see who would deny the truth in public, they'll all be on center stage including the Supreme Court Justice.

[WHAT crimes have been committed? In all these impeachment threads it is assumed that crimes have been committed but nobody every gets around to naming SPECIFIC legal charges that can be a basis for impeachment.]

If you lead with "impeachment", then it appears political.

[GASP! You...you don't mean to imply that all this impeachment frezy is political? Who could have guessed that?]

The one thing I *would* be looking at is prioritizing potential investigations based on which is most likely to achieve tangible "results." Identify the hypothetical BushCo actions that would warrant impeachment, and determine which investigation(s) would provide the strongest case for impeachment and most likely to produce usable evidence.

[A long winded way of saying "Wild Goose Chase."]

If impeachment now is such a no-brainer that is supported by an overwhelming majority of Americans you would find Democratic representatives falling all over each other to bring articles of impeachment. How many cosponsors does Kucinich have to impeach Cheney, which should have far more support. It was investigations that brought Nixon to the point of impeachment (Watergate anyone?) and investigations led to the impeachment of Clinton (the Republicans did not impeach him first, then investigate). So other than wishful thinking, what is the imperative reasoning behind impeachment before investigation?

[BDS explains it ALL.]

The Democrats seem to be using the strategy of building up a collection of investigation and inquiries into the Bushies and GOP until the calls for impeachment reach critical mass. At that time they will cite the public as the impetus for proceedings to remove the turncoats from office.

[And by that time it will be Jan. 21, 2009.]

The clock is ticking and IF there is no movement NOW
to impeach these criminals it will NEVER happen. The deaths and damage to America is happening now - what are we waiting for? To let these criminals skate?

[HURRY! HURRY! HURRY! We must BEAT THE CLOCK!!! Investigations first just burns up the time!]

How Much Investigation Will It Take? The GOP is practically destroyed, as is the Constitution and the economy at home and increasingly abroad. Bush confessed on national TV to crimes against the Constitution!

[The economy is destroyed? Bush confessed to crimes against the constitution on national TV? Did this all take place in the alternate dimension of the DUmmie Zone?]

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