DUmmies Put Liberal Apostate On Trial
It is a set part of Leftwing orthodoxy that the United States is the cause of Muslim terrorism. Therefore, when one of their own liberals questions that core belief, as Sam Harris has done, he sets himself up for a heresy trial as has happened in this DUmmie THREAD titled, "Head-in-the-Sand Liberals by Sam Harris." The evidence against Harris is his recent Los Angeles Times ARTICLE of the same name in which Harris dares to question the LIHOPian and MIHOPian orthodoxies of the left. So let us now analyze the heresy trial of Sam Harris in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, predicting no more fancy Georgetown party invitations for Harris, is in the [brackets]:
Head-in-the-Sand Liberals by Sam Harris
[Heresy Alert! Stand by to read the heretical views about Muslim terrorism written by a liberal.]
Perhaps I should establish my liberal bone fides at the outset. I'd like to see taxes raised on the wealthy, drugs decriminalized and homosexuals free to marry. I also think that the Bush administration deserves most of the criticism it has received in the last six years — especially with respect to its waging of the war in Iraq, its scuttling of science and its fiscal irresponsibility.
[Oh, and don't forget to mention that you won a PEN award for declaring in a previous book that all religions are hokum.]
The truth is that there is every reason to believe that a terrifying number of the world's Muslims now view all political and moral questions in terms of their affiliation with Islam. This leads them to rally to the cause of other Muslims no matter how sociopathic their behavior. This benighted religious solidarity may be the greatest problem facing civilization and yet it is regularly misconstrued, ignored or obfuscated by liberals.
[The truth is that sociopathic DUmmies also support the Muslim terrorists.]
Given the mendacity and shocking incompetence of the Bush administration — especially its mishandling of the war in Iraq — liberals can find much to lament in the conservative approach to fighting the war on terror. Unfortunately, liberals hate the current administration with such fury that they regularly fail to acknowledge just how dangerous and depraved our enemies in the Muslim world are.
[The average DUmmie considers Bush to be more dangerous than Osama Bin Laden.]
While liberals should be the ones pointing the way beyond this Iron Age madness, they are rendering themselves increasingly irrelevant. Being generally reasonable and tolerant of diversity, liberals should be especially sensitive to the dangers of religious literalism. But they aren't.
[You're wrong there, Sam. Liberals are NOT generally reasonable and tolerant of diversity. Perhaps you should become a regular reader of the DUmmie FUnnies in order to dispel that false notion. And now to hear from the DUmmies...]
You're not going to like this, but you should read it. Sam Harris is a liberal, thoughtful guy. This goes hand in hand with the thinking that only liberals can address terrorism. But we better do it.
[You are veering dangerously close to a tombstoning.]
Also, read Looming Tower. This Islamic movement did NOT start as a response to America. It had NOTHING to do with it. Nor was it about Israel. It was about a hatred of rational thought. Think about that for a minute. These people are fuled by their hatred of rational thought. Or, and they want to kill anyone who doesn't hate rational thought. They don't care about the poor. This is not because we have treated the Middle East badly. Like everything else, it might now be how they motivate the troops, but the leaders of this movement see it differently. It is modernity, rational thought, democracy, mixing of the sexes, secularism, and anything that is not direct subjugation to the rule of Islam (the people running it that is).
[And since you have added way too much rational thought to this discussion I have to think that you are a LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
When people in Denmark can legitimately fear for their lives because of cartoons for gawds sake, we've got a problem and we better start to talk about it or we will become irrelevant.
[DUmmies are already irrelevant my soon to be tombstoned DUmmie.]
He's making huge broadbrush smears against 'liberals'
[Yeah, isn't the notion of DUmmies being so fixated on Bush Hate that they fail to condemn, and indeed often praise, the Islamic terrorists such a silly notion?]
Instead of giving a rational argument against LIHOP, he dismisses it as "an astonishing eruption of masochistic unreason" and then makes the leap from that to "the decline of Western civilization".
[Yeah, like Sam Harris is going to waste his time debating the fine points of LIHOP/MIHOP dopiness.]
He conflates belief in 9/11 conspiracy theories with being liberal. But many of the major websites pushing those theories are anything but liberal - people like Alex Jones. Many of them blame "the Jews". Again, that's not liberals doing that. But Harris, without evidence, assigns this to liberalism.
[Alex Jones is a tinfoil hat nutcase, just like the vast majority of DUmmieland. Also the DUmmies blame the Jews by merely using the convenient "neocon" codeword for them.]
Why I'd like to strangle that guy.... but as a peace loving LIBERAL, I won't. What a bunch of BS this op is foisting on us, eh? Claiming we should gear up to fight the Muslims. Hell, if we just quit going into their countries with our militaries, we'd all get along just fine. But we don't, do we?
No, we are constantly sending troops to their lands, along with missiles, bombs, and bullets. No wonder they are pissed! Hell, we'd be pissed too if they did that to us!
This fellow, Harris, ain't no LIBERAL, he's nothing but a warmongering, bs artist.
[Welcome to the world of DUmmie delusions about terrorism.]
Having spent a lot of time in the September 11 Forum here, I think I may know some of the head-in-the-sand liberals Harris is talking about. They don't know the first thing about fundamentalist theology and even go so far as to deny that terrorism does not exist. They believe most every high profile terrorist act on record was actually a false-flag government operation. On one hand, they think believing our government masterminded 9/11 is the sign of being a "true" liberal, and on the other they believe "a ragtag bunch of Arabs in a cave" aren't smart enough to have pulled off 9/11 - a pov with very racist undertones, conscious or not.
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
Islamic progressives are the biggest casualties in Bush's war. He has managed to stir up such hatred for America in the Islamic world that the progressives there, and even the moderates, no longer have a voice that is listened to. They have become seen as collaborators with the west. Just as Bush uses the "you are with us or against us rhetoric" to back up his use of violence, the same is true for the Jihadists. He has effectively removed the middle ground so there is now no room for compromise or even discourse. His idiotic talk of "IslamoFascists" and the "Axis of Evil" has fed into the propaganda of the likes of Al-Queda.
[So when we are attacked by the Islamic terrorists we should just ignore it because of the harm it could do to Ismlamic "progressives?" Yeah, like the Taliban tolerated those who deviated from their rules before we overthrew them.]
Fundies of every stripe are very dangerous and only education will bring us together in the realization that 'god' is a metaphor and all religions are bogus.
[Translation: I am giving the Muslim terrorists a pass to concentrate on the non-existent fundie threat in this country.]
BB (Before Bush), these radicals were a very small minority. 9/11 marginalized them even more (though, I doubt it would have happened on Al Gore's watch...)
[Yeah, the Islamic terrorists would have been terrified of a President Al Gore.]
Seems that the Muslim Fundamentalists and the Christian Fundamentalists are very damned similar...and I DO mean damned. I maintain that Busheviks and al Qaeda supporters are two sides of the same coin, and all the world's people are caught in the middle while they have their little crusade/jihad/WWIII. The only real loser is the Enlightenment, which is dying.
[Also dying are your brain cells.]
Attacking and destroying other countries boosts fundamentalism --and it works the same way here. After we were attacked, look at Bush approval ratings and the popularity of macho, fundie jingoist bullshit. Why in hell does anybody think that Muslims are any different in that respect?
[The DUmmie moral equivalence argument.]
My experience with Muslims in Britain is that their religion is what they are: it defines them and, as you say, it feeds their political culture. Muslim politics are inseparable from their religion. Just like the good 'ol homegrown Christian extremists in the States.
[When was the last time a "Christian extremist" decapitated anybody?]
The Islamic people are not my enemy and never will be. Not in my mind. War is not the answer.
[Only Bush and the EVIL Republicans will remain your enemy.]
I'll bet that by mid-week, right-wing blogs will gleefully link to Harris.
[Or gleefully linking to DUmmie threads slamming Harris.]
If this country goes down the path that Harris hints at, there will be no avoiding religious and racial profiling, more illegal imprisonment and torture, and ultimately, concentration camps.
[So how many times did you sit through "V For Vendetta" while drooling uncontrollably?]
Forgive me if I don't worry incessantly about what bin Laden's up to. For 5 solid years we've been subjected to hatred of rational thought from our own government. Seeing as this is my home, it gets most of my attention.
[A DUmmie who totally ignores real terrorism while worrying about which Wal-Mart detention camp he will be sent to.]
This is just crap. They hate us for our rational thought. Yeah right.
[Sayeth a DUmmie who hates rational thought.]
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