DUmmie FUnnies 12-30-05 (Pied PIper Pitt's Fictional Response To DUmmie FUnnies)

Talk about Reality Challenged DUmmies! First William Rivers (Pied Piper) Pitt posts this Reality Challenged THREAD titled, "Going Too Far (or, my conversation with the Bush supporter at the bar)" in which he was MIRACULOUSLY able to reproduce in word-for-word detail a long conversation he had with Ty, whom Pitt described as a Bush supporter who, under the guidance of the All-Wise and erudite Pitt, was able to see the error of his ways. Maybe I am far inferior to the incredible Pitt intellect but, sans tape recorder, I would be hard pressed to reproduce in quotes a long conversation I had even a few minutes earlier, much less from a least a day before as Pitt indicated. Even some DUmmies cast aspersions on Pitt's claim of being able to reproduce his conversation in all its fine detail. Then late last night, Pitt posted a reality challenged (fictional) account of what transpired between us in this DUmmie THREAD titled, in Pittian style, "In the shadow of staggering assholes." Pied Piper Pitt's fictional fantasies are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, about to correct the fictional record, is in the [brackets]:

In the shadow of staggering assholes

[Still talking about your failed September rally, eh Pitt?]

FOR THE RECORD: I say "Some DUer" in the post below because he introduced himself on the phone with a DU screen name. I will not repeat it; I don't know if this person is a banned former member or what, but regardless, I am not going to make Captain Ass any more famous. Don't ask who it was, either in this thread or via PM. I will not say. Sufficed to say, the following did happen, and the person was a present or former DUer.

[Congratulations for getting to the fiction RIGHT AWAY. FOR THE RECORD: I am not now nor have I ever been a DUmmie. And "DUmmie FUnnies" which is how I introduced myself, is a DUmmie screen name?]

Y'all maybe saw the essay I put up here yesterday, about my conversation with the bouncer at my bar:

["Y'all." Isn't that the type of terminology you ascribe to unenlightened Bush supporters in stark contrast to your own erudite commentary?]

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/122905A.shtml

["Truthout." Accurate description]]


Well, some folks in the thread I put up on this doubted that it was true. That's fine. I laid a challenge on the table: Ten thousand dollars says anyone can come to Boston, meet this guy, and hear from him that what I wrote was true. If I lied, I pay. If I spoke true, they pay. Strangely, no one took me up on it. Go figure.

[Why go to the trouble of hopping a flight to Boston? Making a phone call is a bit easier.]

Well.

[Will.]

Today, apparently, some DUer who doesn't much like me decided to go a different route. I didn't name the bar I go to in the piece, but this DUer knew which one it was. That means, probably, that he came to Boston for the DNC and I took him into the bosom of my hospitality, brought him to my bar, bought him beers, etc.

[LOL! The fictional assumptions in that paragraph are astounding. First of all, I have never even been to Boston ever plus, I assure you I am not now nor have I ever been in the DNC. As to the "bosom of your hospitality..." Sorry, I don't swing that way.]

This DUer called Ty AT WORK to pester him about the substance of the essay. Demanded to read the essay to him on the phone, so he could ask if the quotes were accurate. Demanded and demanded and demanded, as if he had a right to fuck with this guy at work.




[Actually, inspired by YOUR challenge, I called a couple of Boston establishments asking if a Ty or someone from New Orleans worked there. Two to be exact. Both told me no Ty worked there. End of conversation. Oh, and I checked my cell phone log and the total elapsed time of the call to the bar where Ty did work act was exactly 36 seconds. Hardly time to Demand and demand and demand. An account of those phone calls was posted on this Free Republic THREAD at Reply #72 right after they happened.]


Ever have a random stranger call you at work?

[Yes. And I always enjoy the break from the routine it affords me. Of course, I never actually talked to Ty when I made those first two calls.]

Add to that the rules of this place of work: Personal calls are for emergency use only. So my boy winds up getting talked to by his two bosses because this DUer called and pushed, and pushed, and pushed, to talk to Ty.

[I asked if Ty or someone from New Orleans worked there. When told no, I hung up. Total elapsed phone time according to my cell phone log was 36 seconds. "Pushed, and pushed, and pushed, and pushed?" Perhaps in your fictional alternate reality, Pitt.]

Why?

[Why write such astounding fiction? Continue...]

Because this DUer fancies himself a writer in his own right. But rather than carve out a place for himself the hard way like I did through hard work, dilligence, truth-telling and the development of sources over ten years, this DUer wanted to take a shortcut. He called Ty to try to get him to say I lied in my story.

[Actually Ty called ME back later as I recounted immediately afterward in my Reply #111 in this Free Republic THREAD. He had NOT heard about your piece about him and was curious for me to read it to him. He even waited until I booted up my computer. Since the connection was bad, Ty told me he would call back later on a landline so he could hear the rest of the piece. Oh, and that part about "truth telling" by Pitt gave me a chuckle.]

In other words, this DUer tried to crawl up over my back, tried to get immediately famous by "exposing" me. That way, he could write about it and make a splash.

[You've already been exposed MANY times in your own words here on the DUmmie FUnnies, Pitt. My fave was the bit about a fascistic "Third American Empire" and how rampant fanatical nationalism was born the day the USA won the 1980 Olympic Hockey Game against the Soviet Union.]

Too bad for him, though, that the story was true. Ty had his number from the earlier call, and I called this asshat back, and handed the phone to Ty. Ty said, "Every word Will wrote was truth. He quoted me exactly. I don't need motherfuckers calling me at work. Fuck off."

[WRONG AGAIN, Baked Bean Breath! You called me back and told me Ty was standing next to you when I asked if he was there. Then you REFUSED to let me read to Ty word for word your own piece. Get your fictional narrative straight, Pitt. Oh, and here is the account at Reply #129 at this FR THREAD immediately after you called me. Five minutes later (according to phone log) I called you back and Ty in that timeframe had somehow miraculously read that piece at the bar which sparked my skeptical antenna. An account of this posted immediately afterwards in my Reply #143 on this FR THREAD.]

Now here's the funny part.

[DUmmie threads are ALWAYS FUnnie.]

I got back on the phone with this poor excuse for a poop, and he tries to grill me on ANSWER, tries to grill me on impeachment, tries to pry a story out of his failed attempt to fuck with my friend. After I finished yelling at him, he said, "Well, I have a lot of good material now." It was pathetic.

[Not as pathetic as your claim that even though you admitted that PDA worked with A.N.S.W.E.R. to organize the September Rally, you yourself NEVER EVER had any dealings with ANYBODY from A.N.S.W.E.R.. Yes, you were hermetically sealed and remained virgin pure. Oh, and you claimed that you never read the leftist Daily Kos piece declaring the September rally to have been an embarrassing flop. More fiction, Pitt?]

But not as pathetic as when he said, "So, will you do a podcast for me?"

[That was in FIVE MINUTES later (according to cell phone log) when I called you back. Yes, I am planning a DUFU Podcast and to make it interesting I want guests who are either not into politics are have loony leftwing views like you, Pitt. Invitation still open. I'll even allow you to read your fiction on the Podcast.]

I told him to f*ck himself. Loudly, colorfully, offering both directions and a map.

[No directions and map did you give but you did curse colorfully. I'll give you that, Pitt.]

Morals:

1. I don't lie in my essays;

[I BEEEEELEEEEVEEEE!!! I BEEEEELEEEEEVE that Pied Piper Pitt has the astounding ability to accurately quote long detailed conversations WORD FOR WORD days after they take place without the use of a tape recorder. I BEEEEEELEEEEEEVE!!!]

2. If you have questions, I am not hard to find;

[Why go to you for a source? Just from this post you are proving yourself to be a fiction spinner.]

3. Don't f*ck with my friends;

[Maybe you shouldn't PUBLICLY post private "conversations" with friends and then offer a money bounty on its veracity.]

4. Don't try to crawl over my back to make yourself famous. Put the work in;

[DUmmie FUnnies already has the BIGGEST Ping List on the FR. However, I do give you credit for the wealth of comedic material you have provided the DUFUs in the past, Pitt.]

5. Ty wants to eat this guy's liver; he genuienly wants to do violence to this person, so f*cking with Ty is a bad idea;

[Maybe Ty will eat YOUR liver when he actually gets around to reading how you portrayed him plus that public bounty offer you made, Pitt.]

6. Don't beg for a podcast after making an asshole out of yourself.

[I think it was more "ask" than "beg." Strange thing is that Publicity Hound Pitt, after initially rejecting the idea, then started to seem open to it. Offer still stands, Pitt.]

Final moral: We are all in this together, but some think this is all a big paycheck. This guy wanted to do damage to me in order to better his own pathetic state of affairs, and had no hesitation to f*ck with a friend of mine he had never met in order to do so.

[I'm not so sure he will be a friend of yours after he reads what you wrote about him. That plus your public bounty offer.]

In other words, some pigs think they are more equal than others.

[Try actually reading "Animal Farm," Pitt. It's anti-communist theme might even seep thru your thick skull.]

Anyway, this was my night. Fun, eh?

[Fiction, eh?]

Anyone who thinks being well-known (for me, even minorly well-known) is a good thing needs a beating. I can't write a personal essay without the people involved getting messed with.

[Maybe you shouldn't publicly offer bounties to defend your dubious veracity, Pitt. In any event, if your account of your original conversation with Ty is as accurate as the fiction you spun here, no wonder folks are casting doubt on it. However, thanx mucho for that chuckle about me being in the DNC!]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-29-05 ("The post impeachment administration: Powell-Gore?")

The only thing more bizarre than the DUmmie THREAD featured in the DUmmie FUnnies this morning where the DUmmies fantasized about a reality-challenged scenario where Bush gets chimpeached is this DUmmie THREAD titled, "The post impeachment administration: Powell-Gore?" As you might have surmised from the title, the DUmmies are already assuming the fantasy of a chimpeachment and are now planning on the makeup of the post-chimpeachment administration. Colin Powell isn't even in government any more but that small fact doesn't seem to interfere with the DUmmie fantasy as you shall see. Even more bizarre is that Powell would somehow choose Al Gore to be his vice-president. But wait, DUmmies! Why stop there? I mean since we are in your Alternate Reality, wouldn't Powell say to himself that Gore was really elected in 2000 and then meekly step aside and let Gore take over the presidency? As usual, the DUmmie Fantasies being channeled from the Alternate Universe are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, envisioning my own Alternate Reality of Petra Verkaik and Salma Hayek battling it out in a hotel room over who gets first dibs at my body, is in the [brackets]:

The post impeachment administration: Powell-Gore?

[Or Tooth Fairy-Kucinich?]

I believe that if the Democrats take the House after the mid term congressional elections, there will be an impeachment. Moreover, the Democratic majority will give cover to disgruntled Republicans to join the impeachment effort.

[How kind of you to give cover to the disgruntled Republicans of the Alternate Universe.]

However, we have to keep in mind that it is almost a certainty that impeachment will not change Republican party control of the executive branch. This is because the outgoing president will control the appointment of a vice president.

[Damn that Constitution!]

As during the Nixon administration, once Congress decides that impeachment is a real possibility, they will first have to force out a corrupt vice president -- then Agnew, today Cheney. It is inconceivable that Congress would impeach Bush, but allow the author and instigator of most of his crimes, Cheney, to assume the presidency.

[And don't forget Denny Hastert. We must get rid of him too! Plus everybody down to about the 145th level of succession.]

This raises an important question for Democrats: Who will be the post impeachment president and vice president?

[Why ask the Democrats? They have NO input as to the post chimpeachment president and vice president.]

Almost all the Republicans in the administration and the Senate are simply too tainted either by the crimes of the administration or corruption in Congress. Both parties' leaders will be trying to clean house, signal a move by the Republicans from the extreme fringe right policy positions and send a message to the international community that the US is ready to return to the "reality based" international community -- all in the same appointment.

[Your use of the term "reality based" already has me doubling up in laughter.]

Frankly, the only viable Republicans are John McCain and Colin Powell, and given the international crisis that Bush has created, Powell is the far more likely candidate.

[Thanx for just killing McCain's primary election chances in '08. Any "Republican" considered "viable" by the DUmmies needs to be prevented from getting the presidential nomination by REAL Republicans.]

At this point, however, because of the unprecedented fiscal, military and international challenges the federal government will face, Democrats need to insist on some kind of "government of national unity" -- in other words, the appointment of a Democratic vice president. The only Democrat with the stature to be vice president under those circumstances is Al Gore, both because of his experience as vice president and because he actually won the popular vote in 2000.

[This fantasy scenario will only happen with the proper astological alignment. Namely Uranus must be aligned in front of your face.]

You may disagree with this analysis and proposed administration, but I hope you'll agree that it's time for progressive Democrats to look ahead and begin planning for the post-Bush administration.

[How about the more modest goal of planning for your institutionalization, DUmmie HamdenRice ? And now on to the other DUmmie comments...]

powell is an asshole solidly in the bush pocket and the world knows he is a liar who likes to advance his own interests ... existing patriotic feelings in powell? NONE! so, why get rid of an asshole to put in place another asshole? sorry for the foul language. i have no other way to express my utter contempt for powell.

[Nice to see you get all worked up over a fantasy that WON'T be happening in this Reality.]

I don't disagree at all ... but the point is, that the Republicans will control the successor to Bush-Cheney. Powell lied about the war, but he has bee furiously apologizing and leaking his embarrassment ever since he left office. Surely you can see he is positioning himself for the succession?

[Yeah. Powell has nothing better to do with his time than planning for a DUmmie Fantasy scenario that WON'T be happening.]

republicans would never vote for GORE and on principle GORE should not stand with any republican in a ticket nor take second place to it. he would be another asshole if he, for a second time, would willingly accommodate the assholes.

[How noble of Gore to turn down a position that WON'T be offered to him.]

After all this national trauma, would you prefer ....
Powell-McCain? Or Powell-Santorum? If we are going to control a post-Bush administration, I think we need someone in at a very high level.

[Powell-Energizer Bunny?]

i am not dreamin' republicans are not going to let go of power and control and without the bush machine to act as their backbone...neither sanctoroom nor mackane have the charisma to do what bush has done...unless they are using diebold machines, i have the feeling that even with those two running the country, much of democracy would return to these shores. although, i may be totally wrong.

[Or totally deluded for extending even the least bit of credibility to this thread.]

The succession to the presidency is defined...I don't think your scenario accounts for the fact that the Constitution was amended to provide a clearly defined succession of the Presidency. How is your scenario going to get around the 25 amendment?

[By leaning back, closing his eyes, and clicking his heels together three times while wishing real hard.]

I guess the OP thinks it would go like this: Dubya is impeached and removed from office. Cheney becomes President and appoints a VP, say, Powell Cheney is then impeached and removed from office. Powell becomes President and appoints a new VP.

[Tinkerbell?]

However, Bush will not be removed by the impeachment process. That is just a pipe dream.

[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]

So who will be the post-Bush prez if not Powell?


[ET]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-29-05 ("Do you think bush will be impeached?")

Yeah, yeah. I know. Yet ANOTHER DUmmie thread about chimpeachment is being featured here. One really good reason for this concentration on chimpeachment themed threads is simply the total OBSESSION the DUmmies now have on this topic. Check out DUmmieland. There is now thread after thread about chimpeachment. The DUmmies are so obsessed by chimpeachment that they are now flooding the Democrats in Congress demanding this action take place PRONTO! Of course, Democrat demands for chimpeachment will prove to be poison at the polls as an issue for the Democrats which is why I enjoy reading all the DUmmie threads on this subject. Oh, and as to my use of the term, "chimpeachment," I have appropriated that name from the DUmmies. They have used "chimpeachment" as a way to mock Bush (aka Chimpus Khan) but I like the term because it mocks the whole notion of impeachment which the DUmmies also want to extend to the entire Bush administration and members of Congress down to the point where Kerry can be inaugurated as President. So let us now watch the DUmmies ponder the possibilities of chimpeachment in this THREAD titled, "Do you think bush will be impeached?" As usual the desperate DUmmie chimpeachment hopes are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, highly entertained by the antics of the DUmmie constitutional scholars, is in the [brackets]:

Do you think bush will be impeached?

[Please use proper DUmmie terminology: "chimpeached."]


Yeah we all know that he SHOULD but do you think he WILL?

[Yes. The chances of chimpeachment are excellent...somewhere between nil and none.]

not really.

[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]

Yeppers... Karma, baby!
We've reached a critical mass... we control them. Don't doubt it and they won't either.

[A critical ass reaches critical mass.]

Right on! That's we need more of around here, some positive attitude and FAITH!

[HALLELUJAH!!! I BEEEEEEEELEEEEEEVE!!!]

The revolution is within... without war, there is no peace... yin and yang. We each need to find peace within ourselves, so that we can project it to the world. Enough of us have done this, we've already won the battle and we did it all ourselves. Now we just have to keep possesion of the reality (see Suskind's "we're an empire now and we create our own reality")... meaning the next staged attack, all of us should be screaming at the top of our lungs who did it!

[YUP! That's just the ticket. Create your own reality and you can BEEEEEELEEEEVE that John Kerry was inuagurated on Jan. 20....or that chimpeachment will take place.]

Well said, again. I think that place of peace within is so important. I agree that the real fight at this point seems to be to define reality. Our nightmares will exist as long as we cannot visualize a place beyond them clearly enough to see the blueprints from here to there. Once our minds are permeated with the blueprints, the truth, then our words and actions will also be, and the world can have a way out of the insanity.

[Find that place of peace within so you can define reality to the point where the blueprints of your minds can visualize the alternate reality where chimpeachment will take place before insanity takes over.]

Not until we have changed Congress. I don't think the repukes would ever prosecute one of their own, no matter how offensive the charge.
We can only keep the issue alive until the Democrats have regained power.

[Which, ironically, is LESS likely to happen due to keeping the chimpeachment issue alive.]

I think Republicans are going to see that, by Impeaching Bush themselves at the start of the campaign season, they can snatch the headlines away from all their own scandals, and focus all of the Blame on Bush. They can posture as reluctant but dutiful conveyers of the Peoples Will, sacrificing their political partisan ship for the needs of the nation, yada, yada.

[I think the Republicans are so stupid as to demand chimpeachment even though it is complete political suicide. Yes, somehow the Republicans will insanely follow the DUmmie game plan and make their fantasy a reality...in the Alternate Universe.]

I think Bush will be impeached by Spring. I think the move will save the Republicans from losing control of one if not both Houses. I think Cheney will step down prior to the impeachment "for health reasons" (actually, to get himself and his own legal problems out of the headlines) and Bush will be ordered to nominate a more moderate Republican as VP, who will then step up as President when Bush is dragged kicking and screaming from the Oval Office.

[I think the draft will be re-instated by Spring. OOPS! That was a recycled DUmmie prediction for LAST Spring. And the DUmmies were convinced that it was a slam-dunk correct prediction just like this one about chimpeachment.]

The repubs are not even close to panicking. And no, no, no, they will not impeach their own. And no, no, no, no, no, Bush will not be impeached, because it is unlikely that there will be a super majority.

[Somewhere deep in the DUmmieland Jungle a dim lightbulb clicks on above a thick DUmmie skull.]

Besides, Bush hit a low in the polls too soon. Americans are fickle, and won't be upset come next November, not to the degree they are now. Besides, I don't think there are even enough seats in the Senate up in that election to cause the shift needed. I could be wrong.

[But you are not, my soon-to-be-tombstoned DUmmie friend.]

From day one of this administration I've thought Bush was a figurehead, and that if things went bad he'd be set up to take the blame. Several times over the last few years I thought their jig was up. But they didn't yank away Bush's supports. In my mind, the Bush/NSA leak was the sound of those supports being pulled out. I'll stand with my statement, and we'll know by May if I'm wrong, or maybe sooner if I'm right.

[Why wait until May? We ALREADY know you are wrong.]

Bush's power is now extra-legal. Things like control of media venues, intelligence groups acting outside of judicial supervision, para-miliatary right ringers and thugs. His dirty tendrils have reached deep and it will take a lot to dislodge his power structure.

[Behold the power of your Emperor, the Mighty Chimpus Khan!]

He'll leave office on January 20th, 2009. Even with a Democratic Congress, he still won't be impeached.

[And you will be TOMBSTONED before January 20th, 2006.]

YES!!! 2006 is the key and here's how we do it:

1. force EVERY sitting congress-critter up for reelection to publicly identify how they would vote on articles of impeachment. We must pay VERY SPECIAL attention to those rethuglicans that were a part of the Clinton impeachment farce. We must have their words and commentary in front of the media as much as possible. Every little sanctimonious crack they made about lying, about breaking the law or about presidents stepping outside of their lawful boundaries should be force fed to the media at every juncture. In particular, the hypocritical ramblings of bugman delay should be shoved down America's throat. Everyone in America needs to be forced to realize that one of the main proponents of bringing down a president for lying about a consensual sexual act would willfully shred the Constitution to keep his greedy cronies wallowing at the public trough. And we need to make mainstream America understand that this is far worse than just a few rotten apples.

2. force EVERY potential congress-critter to publicly proclaim how they would stand on voting for articles of impeachment. If we have a potential congress critter that won't identify or identifies as bush* is OK, we target all resources possible to prevent their election.

3. we saturate the media with evidence of the media's past complicity in the Clinton sham and highlight their current collaboration with bushco*. The illegal boy-king would have never made it this far without the aid of the MSM. They must be made to feel the pain. We must expose them for what they are: tools and collaborators. Eventually something will make it through the white noise.

[4. Watch the Democrats suffer a landslide defeat in the 2006 elections due to following your "wonderful" advice.]

Maybe. We should try if we get Congress back. Who knows, maybe he'll really screw the pooch and it'll bring down Cheney with him. Then, with our Dem Congress, Nancy Pelosi will become our first woman president! I like to dream!

[Do DUmmies dream when they are in a deep coma?]

Yes. The moderate GOPers in Congress are starting to wake up...and see Herr Busch and the NeoCons for what they really are. They will join with the Democrats to impeach Herr Busch.

[Yup! That will happen...right after the draft is re-instituted as you DUmmies so accurately predicted.]

Many of us are realists. Wishful thinking is not analysis. Please count the numbers of Repub in both Houses, learn how the impeachment process works, and the tell me how it can happen without MAJOR help from the Repubs. Now do you honestly think - that is THINK, not wish - that we will get such help from the Repubs against their own POTUS?

[If you were a realist, you would have already been tombstoned from DUmmieland.]

not only won't he be impeached, he won't even leave office . . .
in 2008 . . . "national emergency," don'tcha know . . .

[You are correct. Bush won't leave office in 2008. He will wait until Jan. 20, 2009, my undereducated DUmmie friend.]

Perhaps not. But we should keep discussing it....Just to get "the I word" out there.

[And to provide lots of great comedy material for the DUmmie FUnnies.]

Yes, he will. DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT LISTEN TO THE NAYSAYERS!


[Yes, he will. DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO REALITY!]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-28-05 ("Can we get beyond 9/11?")

The DUmmies are absolutely OUTRAGED over 9/11. Are they outraged at the actual terrorists who carried out the deeds? Of course not. This is DUmmieland we are talking about, remember? They are OUTRAGED that the NORMAL people are not outraged at the EVIL Bush Regime for making 9/11 happen and then "exploiting" the events for their own nefarious purposes. To read this DUmmie THREAD titled "Can we get beyond 9/11?" you would think that the REAL terrorists were peacefully sleeping in Talibanland while those 9/11 planes were hijacked by Neocons hypnotized by Karl Rove. And yet, NUttie as the DUmmies are, aren't they only voicing in public what many professional Democrat politicians think in private? Keep that in mind while reading DUmmie outrage directed at the Bush Regime in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that many major networks are also reluctant to show the Twin Towers being destroyed because they too want to "get beyond" 9/11, is in the [brackets]:

Can we get beyond 9/11?

[Yeah. Why don't we all just forget about it and concentrate on the crimes of the EVIL Bush Regime?]

The day that thousands of families, mostly American families, lost loved ones in the attacks in New York and Washington and the plane crash in Pennsylvania was a sad one, made more difficult by the panic over the vulnerability of our air traffic system. Now after more than 4 years, although these deaths still bring pain to many, they are statistically and numerically diminished when compared to automobile deaths, for example, or those from heart disease or even American bombing of civilians in Iraq.

[The deaths due to 9/11 were trivial...according to DUmmie logic.]

However, the damage from 9/11 is becoming incalculable in its invocation as a rationale for the damage to our nation by its current administration. How many more times can Bush stand up and talk about this day without someone shouting at him "Enough! You can't use that anymore! It didn't change a damn thing in this country except your willingness to appropriate it as a 'brand name' to further your Fascist agenda."

[The TRUE tragedy of 9/11 wasn't the deaths and injuries that happened. No. It was the fact that Bush was able to appropriate 9/11 as a brand name to further his Fascist agenda.]

The crashing of the towers was so much like a Hollywood disaster movie that I do believe our country has appropriated the images of that day as a colorful collage of national holocaust. Would it really dishonor the memories of the victims to just "get over it" and move on toward a real future? How about some thoughts from those who lost loved ones that day? Isn't it time to get beyond it?

[9/11 was just another Irwin Allen production so let's all just "get over it" and concentrate on important things like the Chimpeachment of Bush.]

I agree with you we allowed the tragedy to be exploited by fear mongers.

[Damn Bush for exploiting 9/11 by attacking its terrorist perpetrators!]

We need to get to the truth of 9/11. I believe that our own government was complicit in this event, which they have used to justify many worse acts, such as invading another nation. Our healing is in bringing out the truth of what happened on 9/11 - only then will people understand how completely we have been manipulated.

[I guess this puts you in the MIHOP camp (Bush Made It Happen On Purpose.]

No way. not until as many people as possible know who was really responsible for 9/11

MIHOP

[And we KNOW who that is---MIHOP.]

There's so much evidence out there that this government intentionally killed thousands of Americans and then utilized it for illegal wars and taking away our civil liberties. To move on without getting to the truth is a death sentence for the future of our country.

[FUnnie how with all that evidence out there about this government intentionally killing thousands of Americans on 9/11 we never actually get to see a shred of this evidence.]

We should be well past it by now however, bush and his administration have the millions of religiously insane drones and various and asundry racist groups that he needs to keep pumping the day for all its worth. I give bush a pass in this mess; its out neighbors who wave flags for a reason they do not know why and put magnets on their cars for no apparent reason and have no concept of how to support troops. The ignorant masses who clog the septic tank which is our current political system. And if any of you lurkers would like to set me straight please share your philosophy on the subject. Share with us why you are such dumbasses. Please tell us how 9-11 changed everything.

[Thank you for that touching expression of hate towards the majority of American citizens.]

never !! never !! never!! as a flight attendant for one of the 2 airlines involved..ny based..2001 flight attend of the year for my airline..i am now retired ( took early retirement because i no longer trust this government!!)

[WHEW! Thank God you have retired but please give us some more information about yourself so we can identify you and ensure that you never work with normal people in the air again, DUmmie flyarm.]

i grew up in Middletown Nj the town that lost the most victims...

[So you're a Jersey Girl, DUmmie flyarm? Continue to give us more clues about yourself...]

i will never get over the bullshit lies of this admin and the lies they have perpetrated on the american people!

[You have no idea how RELIEVED I am knowing you won't be my flight attendant in the future, DUmmie flyarm. Continue...]

never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[I've heard about passengers going nuts in the air. Little did I know this affliction has also hit some flight attendants. Continue...]

i will fight for the truth for my co-workers that were lost that day..and for the people i grew up with or their children lost that day..if it take till my dying breath!!

[You want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH THAT IT WAS ISLAMOFASCIST TERRORISTS THAT HIJACKED THOSE PLANES!!! Continue DUmmie flyarm...]

they deserve no less..and actually they deserve much much more than every damn american who is too lazy to fight for the truth.. and is willing to do in their memory..and for the pitiful americans who are too coward to know the truth!!

[Yeah. Pity those poor Americans who are too cowardly to face the fact that EVIL Bush Regime Neocons hijacked those planes. Please present us with more madness, DUmmie flyarm...]

you were lied to americans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Are you hearing any echos in your Rubber Room, DUmmie flyarm? Continue with your meltdown...]

big time!

[Have you ever considered running for Congress? You would fit in well with your fellow Democrats. Continue DUmmie flyarm...]

fly..who fights for the angels of my airline lost on 9/11 ..i will never forget them..and i will fight to death for their truth!

[Not only should you NEVER work as a flight attendant again, I hope you NEVER fly again DUmmie flyarm. How could any passenger feel safe knowing this NUTCASE is aboard?]

So there are two brands of "9/11" ... One is the 9/11 that Bush uses, the one that "changed everything" and woke us up to the fact that thousands of enemies want to destroy the U.S. and they are training night and day to do this, and that's why we have to put some limits on our Constitutional freedoms.

[Methinks you prefer the other "brand" of 9/11, DUmmie Ron_Green. Please enlighten us...]

The other brand of "9/11" is that our government either planned and executed, or stood by while knowing others were planning, the attacks on that day, in order to accomplish the big step toward Fascism this administration has taken.

[Yes, this is definitely the "brand" of 9/11 that is a big seller in DUmmieland. It wasn't the Islamofascist terrorists who carried out the 9/11 attacks. It was all the fault of the EVIL Bush Regime in their headlong step towards Fascism.]

ya know..i never had fear ...not in the air ..and not in my country...

[Thus spaketh DUmmie flyarm again while swinging the butterfly net at her FUnnie Farm. Continue screeching mercifully retired flight attendant...]

i never had fear...read my lips ..i have no frigging fear...

[Alright already! I'm reading your loony lips. You have "no frigging fear." Continue with the therapy session...]

i started flying when i was 19 yrs old..and i am 54 now...i have no fear..or i would never have gone into a tube in the air for the largest part of my life!

[Actually I think your mind went down the tube years ago, DUmmie flyarm. Continue howling into the wind...]

i have a whole hell of alot of anger...and i only got that when my government failed and failed miserably on 9/11

[Make that you have a whole hell alot of MISPLACED anger. Continue the rant, DUmmie flyarm...]

i got damn angry when i stood at my co-workers memorials and was lied to by my government...

[Would it be too much to ask for just ONE lie? Don't stop now. You're on a roll, DUmmie flyarm...]

i got even angrier when my nations media lied up their assholes about the murder of my neighbors and co-workers who were murderedd on 9/11

[Still waiting for that elusive LIE, DUmmie flyarm. Continue...]

but i got pissant mad when i was invited to a round table 15 participants to question one of the 9/11 commissioners..at a major university...in front of the faculty of the university...and i asked 3 questions and my husband two ( hubby was tutored by me to ask specific..pertinent questions..) and the sob didn't answer one of my questions..and he looked like he would faint when i pulled out a picture of my graduation to my airline and my wing ceremony and the man who started my airline was at my graduation...and i stated he was rolling in his grave today at all the lies and bullshit this administration and this commission& media were selling a very falsely frightened country..

[The man who started your airline is rolling in his grave because you are pretending that he would buy into your LOOONY tinfoil hat theories, DUmmie flyarm. Continue spewing...]

i said the original owner and president of my airline..cared about 2 things more tha anything else..the safety of his passengers..and the safety of his crew members..i told this commissioner he has failed on both accounts! i asked him how he looks in the mirror and lives with himself...

[Did the original owner and president of your airline care for the mental stability of his flight attendants? Continue...]

this 9/11 commissioner started sweating and turned paste white with my opening statement and my questions..he didn't even attempt to answer me...but when my husband asked his questions..i thought the guy would faint..as my husband held him up and demanded answers and humiliated this 9/11 commissioner and all but called him a fraud...

[The 9/11 commissioner was sweating because he realized that you weren't frisked before entering the room, DUmmie flyarm. Please continue. The doctor is taking notes...]

there are somethings in life we must all hold people responsible for, and accountable for...and in the case of 9/11 AND this adminstration..no one has been held accountable for both failures or complicity..nor has any real investigation ever been done ..and that is the first time in US aviation history!!

[Complicity? I guess that makes you a MIHOP, DUmmie flyarm. Please continue as I count my blessings that you are no longer working in the air...]

all warnings were ignored ..was it deliberate??

[Of course it was deliberate. After all, we are talking about the EVIL Bush Regime here. Please continue with your RUbber Room rant, DUmmie flyarm...]

how will we ever know??

[By reading tinfoil hat conspiracy theories in DUmmieland. Continue...]

why was i as a flight crew not been given that warning as required by law??

[Um... Could it be because NO ONE had any warnings my self-centered ex-flight attendant? Continue the paranoia, DUmmie flyarm...]

why was norman minetta not given the warning..he was head of transportation..and he was not warned!

[See reply above about warnings. Give us more lunacy DUmmie flyarm...]

ya know bullshit only goes so far..i am done with anyones bullshit...

[You need to learn proper DUmmie terminology. It's "bushit." Continue...]

done...

[whew...]

and noooo i will never forget my co-workers...and i will never forget my neighbors from my home town...no sireee..and i will fight for the truth for them ..as long as i breathe!

[Hey! I thought you said you were done, DUmmie flyarm. But I guess that only applied to your reasoning process. So give us another shot of wackiness...]

and i am sick of cowards who would give up their constitution with no damn fight ...for lies..or bullshit!

[It's "bushit." Remember. "Bushit." Now on to the other DUmmie rantings...]

you know, I can believe one airplane could be hijacked
with a slackened security, but four? Come on, something does not smell right. Every one of those terrorists passed security? I will not believe that all Americans are that inept. Also, how many minutes did it take to attack the pentagon after the second building was hit? I will never forget, and if there is another attack on American soil, I am going to put the blame where it originally belonged--this administration who wouldn't know the truth if it hit them over the head.

[And yet the DUmmies are now crybabying because the administration is monitoring the phone calls of the terrorists in an attempt to PREVENT another attack.]

go out and get a dem congress!!! no excuses...not now not next year.. just do it..get out and knock on doors..sign up with dem groups..and do something..go work with the people fighting these voting machines...just do something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!there is no time left for excuses..its your country ..now fight for her! bust your ass for her!! just don't make excuses..that won't fly anymore!!put 100% of yourself into getting a balanced government!! with everything in your heart...just do it!!

[Thank you for that partisan input DUmmie flyarm. Hey, have you ever thought of copyrighting "just do it!!" I bet a shoe company would buy it.]

The atrocities against innocents in Iraq dwarf 9/11.

[Can we book you as a speaker at the next Democrat convention? Please be sure to include that "astute" observation in your speech.]

I don't buy the IHOP's, but 9/11 was and remains a criminal case. And that implies some possibility of resolution in identifying, tracking and apprehending the perps. It hasn't happened.

[You don't buy IHOPs? You prefer Waffle Hut?]

not until we find the truth about who did it . . . (hint: it was BushCo)

[REALLY! What a surprise...NOT! After all this is being posted from the Alternate Reality known as DUmmieland.]

we MUST find the truth about 9/11 -- nothing will bring BushCo down faster, harder, and more completely . . .


[Can we also Chimpeach your mind?]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-28-05 ("CBS Producer has New Documents related to Bush AWOL")

Have you noticed how quickly CBS ex-producer, Mary Mapes, has faded from public view? Her book bombed bigtime because NO ONE except for a few diehard loonies bought her completely unbelievable story. Mapes still contends that the obviously forged Texas Air National Guard documents that purported to prove that Bush was AWOL were authentic and that even if they were fake, the story is still somehow valid. Even many Liberals were embarrassed by Mary Mapes and hoped she would just go away. About the only TRUE BELIEVERS I have been able to find were, of course, in DUmmieland as you can see in this THREAD titled, "CBS Producer has New Documents related to Bush AWOL." The first post of the thread are several quotes from Mary Mapes which is presented as if it is Holy Writ. As usual, the Fake but Accurate DUmmie documents are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, thanking Mary Mapes for creating the scandal that created the DUmmie FUnnies, is in the [brackets]:

"I actually was completely sure about the documents..." "We had lots and lots of evidence that the content was absolutely accurate, we had coroberation, we vetted it, and we meshed it with the initial documents or the official documents that the Bush people had put out for the past four years or so."

[I BEEEELEEEEEVE!!!]

"The other thing that we had in that report that people don't mention is the first ever interview with former Lt. governor Ben Barnes, who talked about helping Bush get into the guard by making a phone call." "It was the documents that proved vulnerable to attack."

[I BEEEEELEEEEEVE THAT FONT OF INTEGRITY, BEN BARNES!!!]

"I did through a researcher get a number of new documents that absolutly blow out of the water the kinds of charges that Howard and others used to attack these documents in the first place." "I now have a document here, from 1969 from the TX Air National Guard in Austin that has porportional spacing, I also have lots of documentary evidence that this existed..."

[I BEEEEEEELEEEEVE THAT MARY MAPES WILL BE INAUGURATED ON JAN. 20!!!]

So Dan Rather got badly treated, speaker of truth kill by dark force. America bushit culture rear its ugly head.

[Yes, the Dark Forces of American Bushit culture destroyed the integrity of Dan Rather and Mary Mapes. The forged documents they used to support their report had nothing to do with it.]

Ahhhh ... I wondered why now? Then saw that she wrote a book. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ...

[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]

Not one single issue will pressure a congress, at this point to do the right thing. We have to do it from every angle. The more info exposing boy George as corrupt, the better.

[You have to do it from every angle, including using fake documents.]

I agree but also believed they Plamed her and is worthy of this...

[Another DUmmie word for the dictionary: "Plamed." It means to expose a liberal fraud.]

Greg Palast had a great article on this
He stated the reason why they went after CBS is because they would be the only one's who would cover the story and the Bush camp couldn't control CBS like the others.

[Yeah, and the fake documents were a mere side issue.]

I say we take every bit of ground we got
And this is a rather large chunk. First, he lied about his military service. Then Dan Rather was swift boated and this woman lost her job. Because CBS tried to tell the truth.

[Yes. I say grab that ground since it will cave in beneath you due to all those fake documents.]

Being AWOL, he wasn't eligible to run for president.
Add to the pile of felonies.

[Base the case for Chimpeachment on fake documents.]

as soon as the Dems take a house of Congress
they are going to bury this administration.

[You are giving away the Democrat game plan. They have no programs to offer. All they offer is their plan for Chimpeachment. A sure loser.]

It's Not So Much About Bush
As the mechanism that was used - the RW blogosphere - to discredit the report.

[Damn the RW blogosphere for exposing those fake documents!]

She lost her f*cking job. I hope she makes a mint off of this book.

[Unfortunately the Mapes book has BOMBED bigtime and her publisher will never even be able to earn enough off it to pay for her overinflated advance.]

I've read the book, no wonder they Plamed her.

[Ah! That word again. "Plamed." Not to be confused with "Wilsoned" which means lying and then pretending you didn't really mean what you lied about.]

what's in the book?
ok ok ok i'll borrow it from the library sometime, (can't buy it right now) but can ya drop a few juicy bits?

[Okay, here is a juicy bit. Even though the Mapes CBS report on TANG was based on forged documents the story itself is still accurate.]

I'm not saying she doesn't have credibility, I just know enough ... To stop drinking from a poisoned well.

[Be my guest. Please continue slurping from the Mary Mapes Poisoned Well.]

So I guess that means people like Al Franken, Joseph Wilson, Richard Clarke, John Dean, Bill Clinton and John Kerry have no credibility either?

[YUP!]

Sorry, but I'm not buying your your line. The story was true before...and with the additional documents, it is even more true now. It has to do with "character issues", which will add to the overall case against Herr Busch when his impeachment rolls into high gear.

[Mary Mapes and her forged documents will be used as evidence against Bush during his Chimpeachment trial.]

Let's see the docs. I fear another colossal embarrassment.

[You demand proof? LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]

Good for her and good for you for posting this.
It's not going away, none of it and when this crime element topples, there will be a vetting that will send chills down the spine of all Americans. We need to see the truth, unvarnished.

[The unvarnished truth is to be found in those proportionally spaced, superscripted early 70s documents.]

He was a deserter, CBS fired a reporter telling truths because KKKarl and the rest of the dark side set it up that way. Freedom is over folks, get use to it.

[You do have a point. Have you ever noticed that no one has ever seen Karl Rove and Lucy Ramirez in the same room?]

And if you notice. The Bush White House has never said the story was false. Just the whole ordeal with the documents. Hmm, I wonder why that is.... Could it be because the story in of itself is true?

[The old adage is that if you see your enemy putting a noose around his own neck, don't stop him.]

This how Kerry got beat last election. Trying to make Bushes guard service an issue is what got Kerry beat the last election. It is a dead horse and the sooner we get off of it the better. With the quality candidate we had in Kerry and the issues that he was so qualified to deal with, we wasted it trying to talk about Viet Nam and Bushes guard service instead of the issues that really mattered. I think Rove and the Republicans suckered us in on this matter knowing that it was a dead end street. We did just what they wanted us to do and it worked for them.

IT FLAT PISSES ME OFF JUST TO THINK OF IT.

[Allow me a moment to SAVOR your anger.]

I tell you what, if I'd been framed and fried like this woman was, I'd do everything in my power to restore my reputation, and politics and timing be damned.

[Or better yet, pad a book with a bunch of incredibly lame excuses made up solely to scam a 6-figure advance which her publisher can NEVER recoup.]

I agree 100%...hope she makes a mint!

[Where can we hold funeral services for your hope? Mapes' book bombed bigtime and didn't even earn back a fraction of her overpaid advance.]

That flat out pisses me off just to think of it....that people pass judgement on false and incorrect information.

[Thank you for that accurate description of the CBS TANG documents.]

I believe Rove was behind the fake document.
And I also believe it was based upon a real document. This was Rove's way of undermining and getting rid of the real story, while making CBS look bad.

[Of course! I mean, isn't Rove behind EVERYTHING?]

There's The BINGO! This Is Classic Rove

[I'm confused. First you say you believe Mary Mapes' contention that the TANG documents were authentic but now you are saying they were forgeries planted by Karl Rove. Please get your kooky conspiracy theories together.]

Rove has been doing this stuff for three decades, and he's never been honest one day of that time.

[Welcome to the Perfect Rovian Storm.]

I want to know the TRUTH.

[A statement like that could get you Tombstoned from DUmmieland.]

The Rove Smearboat Got Her. And despite the fact that she and CBS had the goods, the whole damned thing will no doubt sink into oblivion, as it was a pre-election issue. She is trying to save her name, and reputation, which is shot due to Rove. I would expect that some will see her as legit, but the Corporate Media will not give her the time of day.

[Let me see if I get this right. Mary Mapes had authentic documents but somehow Rove used those same documents to sink her credibility?]

Just because someone manipulated the facts doesn't mean there are no facts or that we have heard all of them.

[Another Classic Quote from DUmmieland.]

The most disappointing aspect of this story
and the most telling, was how the rest of the mainstream media competely turned their back on CBS and Dan Rather. Worse than that, they participated in the mocking of what was obviously a true story and, if the documents really were forged, which I haven't seen any conclusive proof of, likely a set-up.

[Oh, I see! The documents were authentic but if they were forged it was because they were planted by Karl Rove in a plot to discredit CBS.]

She was fired...her career destroyed--so Bush could keep his lie intact.

This is about the arrogance of power, the destruction of this woman's reputation, livelihood, career. For what? So Bush could continue his lie.

She was sacrificed by the administration--an example for all journalists to see: don't tell the truth about the administration or we will destroy you.

Her corporate bosses, her co-workers the powerful journalists, sat in fear and silence as she was destroyed, and along with her the free press.

Why is this important? Mapes is the epitome of the media today. She was one of the last attempts at journalism before the media morphed to the propaganda machine it is today.

Her story should be shouted from the rooftops and the blogs. Cause it will be minimized on MSM.

[Poor Mary Mapes. She was an innocent flower crushed under by the EVIL Bush Regime.]

Buckhead, the Freeper, was a Rove plant

[True. He was merely a mind-numbed robot being cruelly manipulated by his hypnotic Master, Karl Rove.]

I was in the Air Force at the same time as Bush
and worked in Purchasing, and Finance, and every damned section on every air force base I was attached to and I saw a LOT of Typewriters and LOT of documents, and I can flat out tell you that ALL of these documents WERE available in those typefaces with the characteristics shown by CBS.

Anything else is a LIE. I was there, I have ORDERS made out to ME that used those same typesets and typed fonts and faces. I used Typewriters all over every base I was at or was sent documents by everyone ordering parts and supplies.

What CBS offered was TRUTH, pure and simple.. I KNOW because I was THERE at the same time. I specifically went and dug out some of my old documents to check and I was very nearly going to post them at the time except I didn't want Freepers and the like to be spreading my info (again) and threatening me or my family - basically I don't want to go to jail for killing one of these assholes if they are stupid enough to bother me too much

[DAMN! You could have proved Mary Mapes to have been right and caused Bush to lose the 2004 election. Only your fear of Freepers prevented you from doing so.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-27-05 ("If Dubya gets impeached, should he be brought up on war crimes?")

As we have seen, the DUmmies are absolutely OBSESSED over the impeachment of George Bush. They are even so delusional as to think congress could jump the gun before the November elections because the Republicans would want him out also. Now the DUmmies have gone even beyond impeachment. They also want Bush sent to the Hague to be tried for war crimes as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD titled, "If Dubya gets impeached, should he be brought up on war crimes?" Therefore just imagine (think of the song "Imagine") the incredible FRUSTRATION level when Bush, far from being impeached or indicted, is HAILED for his efforts in the War On Terror. This will happen and one can only picture all of DUmmieland turning into a Heaven's Gate Cult at that point. As usual, the DUmmie demands as they await the arrival of their Mother Ship are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, watching the DUmmies sink ever lower into the depths of madness, is in the [brackets]:

If Dubya gets impeached, should he be brought up on war crimes?

[Yes. Right after you plead insanity.]

I don't see why not. We've already established a precedent by putting other heads of state on trial (Noriega, Milosovic, Hussein). He's committed some very serious, heinous crimes already. It would have to be a UN tribunal, otherwise whoever is the next president might just decide to issue a pardon. How sweet would that be, having Bush, Cheney, Condi, Rummy, Ashcroft, etc rotting in some European prison (although Abu Gharib would be more fitting).

[Don't forget to support Ramsey Clark in his effort to free Saddam Hussein.]

Yes! The whole cabal should be tried and incarcerated.

[This will happen...in the Alternate Reality.]

While we have a good case for impeachment, I think there's an open and shut case for war crimes!!! Plus, there's so much evidence out there that they can't destroy and they wouldn't have control over the players, as they would here with all the Republican puppets on strings.

[An open and shut case. So why even bother with a trial?]

until we do this, we're no better than any other #1 nation
only if we do this do we finally prove our rhetoric, that we are a nation whose greatness does not lie purely in its military and economic dominance of the planet; that we hold ourselves to a higher standard; and that no one -- NO ONE -- is above the law.

[So why didn't Ted Kennedy serve jail time?]

HELL YEAH!!! If we ever want to gain back the respect of the world, we MUST show the world that we have every intention of holding these thugs accountable. If we ever want justice for ourselves, we must deliver it for others. It's a two way street, and these pigs are not above the law, U.S. or international.

[Which do you prefer today? Lithium treatment or electroshock therapy?]

IMPEACH and IMPRISON

[Imprison where? In the dark corner of your parents' basement where you are posting with drool covered fingers?]

Impeachment is a pipe dream. Ain't gonna happen.

[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]

Unless we get a whole new batch of Democrats in the house it won't happen. The ones we have in the house now just don't have what it takes to impeach, even if they get the majority. The only way the present Democratic representatives would vote for impeachment is if the Republicans started it.

[And the chances of that happening is somewhere between nil and never.]

dont care who starts it...they've trashed our country, our constitution..human rights...robbed america blind..have turned a basically good people albeit easily maniputlated into the rogues of the world..have proven incompetence ..arrogance...and any elected representative who doesnt step forward is guilty of the same damned thing....impeachment..and the hague..and then jail...for the whole bunch of them

[Followed by your institutionalization.]

send them all to Gitmo then flush their bibles. Waterboard the sons of bitches, forever. Even then it's not enough to repay the once great America for what they have done. Ugly bags of water, all of them.

[At what point did your bubbling bile turn to boiling venom?]

Regardless of impeachment bush should be tried for crimes against humanity. After the slaughter in Fallujah can there really be any question?

[Damn him for flushing out the terrorists!]

If there's anything we don't need in this country, it's someone who expects to be immune from prosecution for their acts while in elected office! I'm for dragging that bastard to the Hague by the heels. For those who think it'd be a "act of war" ... let it be Americans that do it, then. I'll even volunteer.

[And soil your tutu? I think not.]

There are no stupid questions, but this is close.

[Actually DUmmieland is FULL of stupid questions and this is TYPICAL.]

Nothing will change in America unless he is brought up on war crime charges - all of the Bush Regime must stand war crime charges (and they must be convicted - otherwise we know the trial is a farce as Bush IS guilty beyond all doubt)...otherwise America will once again sweep crimes under the rug ...and as long as America maintains that sick need to hide her crimes, she will NEVER be the America she could be.





[You want a trial but ONLY if Bush is convicted? I want you institutionalized but ONLY if you are NEVER released.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-27-05 ("Kerry Won!!! Tool for Everyone to Prove It")

Have you ever been in the proximity of a member of the Flat Earth Society? If so, then you might have had the tedious experience of being subjected to endless "scientific" data to "prove" beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Earth is indeed flat. Likewise, the DUmmies are putting forth tons of statistical analysis to "prove" that Kerry actually did win the election in 2004. And speaking about 2004, this DUmmie THREAD hilariously titled, "Kerry Won!!! Tool for Everyone to Prove It-'Scoop'" was posted in DUmmieland YESTERDAY, not in the immediate aftermath of election 2004. Yes, the DUmmies still can't get over it. And like the pathetic members of the Flat Earth Society, they will overwhelm you with "facts" to "prove" that Kerry WON the election. As usual, the tool-toting DUmmie rants are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, who has absolute statistical proof that Mondale beat Reagan, is in the [brackets]:

TruthIsAll Interview--Kerry Won!!! Tool for Everyone to Prove It-"Scoop"

[The Earth Is Flat!!! Tool for Everyone to Prove It---"Scoop"]

What more could you ask for on Christmas and the start of Hanukah. Well, it’s all here: the paper, the links, and the free Excel simulations. Happy Holidays!!!

[Happy Kwanzaa!!!]

Special for “Scoop” Independent Media
from Washington DC
Michael Collins
Dec. 21, 2005

[Methinks Michael Collins has consumed too many Tom Collins.]

USEFUL RELATED LINKS:

The Law of Large Numbers & Central Limit Theorem: A Polling Simulation

http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/TruthIsAllPollingSimulation.mht

Excel Polling Simulation Model

2004 Election Model Projection; Exit Poll Collection; Excel Interactive Election Simulation; Other links.

[My eyes glazeth over.]

The Kerry concession speech on November 3, 2004 marked the beginning, not the end of the controversy over the 2004 election. Just hours before the speech, Vice Presidential Candidate John Edwards emerged and said that, “John Kerry and I made a promise to the American people that in this election every vote would count and every vote will be counted."

[Including the votes the Democrats stole in the Washington state gubernatorial election?]

Democrats were in a state of shock. 2004 was a banner year for new registrations, party financial support, and activism. Reported new registrations favored Democrats all over the country. Democrats were well ahead of Republicans in new registrations in Ohio. South Florida, the “scene of the crime” in 2000, saw major Democratic efforts and a lackluster Republican response.

[Watching Susan Estrich's drunken face slobbering all over herself on Election Night, I would say the Democrats were well beyond mere shock.]

Democrats matched and exceeded Republicans in funds raised. For the first time, the internet proved to be a highly potent form of fund raising. The Democrats collected $10 million a month for the Kerry Campaign on the Internet alone. Other groups supporting the Democrats raised substantial funds. MoveOn.Org and New Democratic Network ran parallel campaign commercials and provided other support with the $25 million they raised during the election cycle.

Activism was at an all time high. People who had never worked in elections volunteered in large numbers and local Democratic parties throughout the country saw a surge in citizen participation.
While Kerry may have conceded the election at 2:14 p.m., Nov. 3, a large portion of the population failed to accept the final results. They knew something was wrong. As one Virginia activist said, “This is simply not possible, the national results or here in Virginia.”

[As one DUmmie said, "I BEEEELEEEEEVE!!!]

INTERVIEW WITH TruthIsAll

[Interview conducted in the Rubber Room.]

Why all this energy devoted to the 2004 election?

[To provide LOTS of comedy material for the DUmmie FUnnies.]

I was appalled when the election was stolen from Gore in 2000. I had posted daily projections of my Election Model on DU in the four months leading up to the election. The projections were based on state and national polls. The final national model had Kerry 51.6 % of the two-party vote; the state model 51.8 %. The state model included a Monte Carlo simulation with a Kerry expected total of 337 electoral votes.

[All the Monte Carlo simulation proved was that Kerry won 51.8% of the time at the roulette wheel.]

The initial exit polls and the Iowa Election Markets showed that Kerry was a 3% winner. When Bush came from nowhere after 9 p.m. to win, I had this feeling of Déjà vu. So I decided to confirm the doubts using mathematical probability analysis, based on the
preliminary exit poll data downloaded by Jonathan Simon.

[The Iowa Cattle Futures Markets show that Hillary will be nominated in '08.]

Anything you’d like to say in closing?

[They're coming to take me away, ha-ha!]

I’ll keep posting as long as I have something to say. If my work has in some small measure helped to raise awareness, then it’s all been worth it.

[If my work has in some small measure helped to keep DUmmies frustrated, then it's all been worth it.]

The miracle of timing that made the full set of national exit polls available to the world and the election fraud movement.

[This miracle rates right up there with Our Lady of Fatima.]

11/02/04

11:00 p.m. EM Server goes down. Exit Polls available on the Internet.

[Is that all? I was hoping the EM Server would go down and make the Petra Verkaik photos from her paid website available free on the Internet.]

11/04/04

12:25 a.m. Final National Exit Poll captured by Jonathan Simon.
3047 Respondents: Kerry 51% - Bush 48%

[That poll had insufficient data. It didn't include the write-in votes for Mary Carey.]

1:33 a.m. Edison Mitofsky Servers come back online effectively ending Internet access to the National Exit Polls.

[It was all a PLOT to keep the world from knowing that Kerry actually won in the Exit Polls.]

2:30* a.m. Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards addresses the crowd and nation promising to “fight for every vote.” (time approximate)

[2:40 a.m. Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards wastes a half hour fussing with his hair and staring at himself in his beauty compact.]

1:25 p.m. National Exit Poll revised by EM to take final election results into account 13,660 respondents: Kerry 48% - Bush 51%

[AHA! So Bush actually did win the exit polls. Well, that makes it official then. Whoever wins the exit polls wins the presidency. The actual voting results are just a mere technicality. It is the exit polls which really count.]

2:14 p.m. Kerry concedes the election to Bush.

[2:20 p.m. Kerry buys himself an extra-large jockstrap and a huntin' license.]

This remarkable sequence of events was not the beginning of the end but rather the end of the beginning. The remarkable intensity of research, analysis, and debate that energizes the modern day election fraud movement was born crying “foul!”

[Yes, yes. Quite remarkable...YAWN!]

FROM:

The Law of Large Numbers & Central Limit Theorem: A Polling Simulation

by TruthIsAll

http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/TruthIsAllPollingSimulation.mht

It's for those who say: "Math was my worst subject in high school".

If you've ever placed a bet at the casino or race track, or played the lottery, you already know the basics.

It's about probability.

It's about common sense.

It's not all that complicated.

[It's about hogwash.]

It's for individuals who have taken algebra, probability and statistics and want to see how they apply to election polling.

It's for graduates with degrees in mathematics, political science, an MBA, etc. who may or may not be familiar with simulation concepts. Simulation is a powerful tool for analyzing uncertainty- be it coin flipping or election polling.

It's for Excel spreadsheet users who enjoy creating math models.

It's for writers, blogs and politicians who seek the truth:

Robert Koehler, Brad from BradBlog, John Conyers, Barbara Boxer, Mark Miller, Fitrakis, Wasserman, USCV, Dopp, Freeman, Baiman, Simon, Alistair Thompson, Krugman, Keith Olberman, Mike Malloy, Randi Rhodes,Stephanie Miller, etc.

It's for Netizens who frequent Discussion Forums.

It's for those in the Media who are still waiting for editor approval to discuss documented incidents of vote spoilage, vote switching and vote suppression in recent elections and which are confirmed by impossible pre-election and exit poll deviations from the recorded vote.

It's for naysayers who promote faith-based hypotheticals in their unrelenting attempts to debunk the accuracy of the pre-election and exit polls.

[It's for obsessive DUmmies who refuse to accept the REALITY of the election results.]

I thought I was going nuts the evening of the election. Thank God I found DU...

[...which is Chock Full O' Nuts.]

Welcome! Lot's of good stuff to use there.
With "the obvious becoming OBVIOUS" to the wider public, the theft of 2004 (and 2002 GA & 2000) becomes highly relevant. After all, we're talking about LEGITIMACY!!!
Why should the people wait for the lazy CM to report this? They can just download the Excel program and prove it to themselves.

[I guess the attendants won't have to beat you with rubber mallets any more. They merely need to allow you to download that Excel program to keep you calm and secure in the knowledge that the program proves that Kerry really won.]

* Supporters need to "get out of it", the WH that is.

[You merely need to show them that Monte Carlo simulation to convince the EVIL Bushies to exit the White House.]

Election fraud: See it, hear it, speak it...Everyday, all day, 24/7.


[Election fraud obsession: See it, hear it, speak it...Everyday, all day, 24/7.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-26-05 ("Throw Bush Out Now! Call for a National Recall Election in 2006!")

I LOVE looking inside my DUmmie Ant Farm. Those critters in there NEVER fail to entertain me. Earlier today, they were wishing for the impeachment of Bush by the REPUBLICAN Congress before the Congressional elections next November. And if you thought that was an idea completely divorced from reality, then check out this DUmmie THREAD titled, "Throw Bush Out Now! Call for a National Recall Election in 2006!" Of course, it doesn't seem to occur to the DUmmies that there is NO provision in the Constitution for a Presidential recall election. And even if they could get the wheels turning for such a constitutional amendment, such a process wouldn't even have time to pass until at least 2012, well past Bush's term in office. Yes, the DESPERATION on the part of the DUmmies to drive Bush from office is absolutely driving the DUmmies deep into the realm of the sanity challenged. Best of all is that the further into Bush's term we go, the more DESPERATE the DUmmies become, resulting in threads chock full of comedy material. Keep on crying, DUmmies. Your desperation translates into lots of incredible bellylaughs. As usual, the DUmmie desperation is in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, posting from a ringside seat at the DUmmie Comedy Club, is in the [brackets]:

Throw Bush Out Now! Call for a National Recall Election in 2006!

[Pray for Space Aliens to deliver us from the Bush Family Evil Empire!]

In another discussion thread posted last night, someone raised the notion of holding a Recall Election for the White House, and the more I think about this idea, the more it makes sense to me.

[Who? Jeffrey Goines from "Twelve Monkeys?"]

Not a week goes by when King George hasn't been caught doing something so outrageous as to call for his impeachment, and the chorus is growing louder and stronger. The list of crimes will not be enumerated here, it's all been thoroughly delineated and hashed out.

Essentially, I think it's safe to say we have tried and prosecuted George W. Bush & Co., and we the jury have deliberated and do find all these evil bastards, Guilty as Charged.

We all thirst for Impeachment, but these proceedings are not likely to occur in this Congress (if at all) until 2007 and by then people will be gearing up for 2008 presidential election. So, it no longer makes sense to place hope that an impeachement proceeding will result in his immediate removal - it just won't.

[Uh-huh. Eighteenth century, no such thing, nada, nothing. No one ever imagined such a thing. No sane person. Along comes this doctor, uh, Semmelweis, Semmelweis. Semmelweis comes along. He's trying to convince people, other doctors mainly, that's there's these teeny tiny invisible bad things called germs that get into your body and make you sick. He's trying to get doctors to wash their hands. What is this guy? Crazy? Teeny, tiny, invisible? What do they call it? Uh-uh, germs? Huh? What? Now, up to the 20th century, last week, as a matter of fact, before I got dragged into this hellhole. I go in to order a burger at this fast food joint, and the guy drops it on the floor. James, he picks it up, he wipes it off, he hands it to me like it's all OK. "What about the germs?" I say. He says, "I don't believe in germs. Germs is a plot made up so they could sell disinfectants and soaps." Now he's crazy, right?]

But i do think that "We the People" might try something totally different.

Think out of the box.

[Think out of the mind.]

Take the matter out of the hands of Congress, and into the hands of "We the People, by demanding Special Recall Elections! Just in the same way we did here in California, which i opposed at the time..

(but i got to vote my opposition!)

I just can't imagine another Three Years with these dangerous thugs and tyrants in the white house.

The world simply cannot wait much longer.

[Your meds simply cannot wait much longer.]

So, what I'm asking for folks to do, is to think about this. To chew on it for a while (but not too long) and then imagine a world without the Bush Crime Family at the helm, sooner rather than later.

[I'm feeling an "Imagine" song parody coming up from Charles Henrickson.]

People said it couldn't be done in California (it had been done over a century ago, but not in modern times) and people scoffed at the very idea, and they said "no way" and enumerated all the reasons why it just couldn't or shouldn't be done. Many people (like me) were opposed to the notion of holding a Special Recall Election.

But it did occur. The People had their say, and despite the fact that the power of the State Government was in the full control of Gray Davis and the Democratic party, the Recall Elections occured, and the Governor was voted out of office.. We got stuck with aahhnuld (but he'll be out of here in the next election).

So don't think about how impossible this would be. Instead, think of the benefit of holding recall elections during mid terms elections, 2006 instead of 2008.

[Yeah, don't think about the fact that there was actually was a recall election provision in the California constitution but NONE in the U.S. Constitution. However, don't let that minor detail keep you from making your absurd proposal, DUmmie radio4progressives. Your comedy act is keeping us in stitches.]

It will lessen the pressure of our people in Congress, due to all these other matters at hand and their own runs for re-election they'll be too occupied with. I'm not arguing against investigation and impeachment hearings, i think those could go forward as they should. But in the meantime, we the people, can do our thing, there's nothing in the law that I'm aware of that says it can't be done.

[Sure you can do it...at the Laugh Factory on the Sunset Strip. My friend Jamie Masada is the owner there and I can talk him into booking your act.]

The other reason why I think we can do this is because I think the nation is finally against Bush, i think the polls a month ago were roughly accurate. And with this domestic Spying issue at hand now, i think it's a really good time to do something sort of revolutionary for this country, i think we should do it.

Let's take this country, our nation, on the road to democracy!

What do you think?

[Here is what I think, DUmmie radio4progressives: Colonics for everyone! All right! You DUmbasses. I'm a mental patient. I'm *supposed* to act out!]

You can't have a recall election for whoever is holding the office of President. The recall election would have been last November.

[And this DUmmie WINS a Kewpie Doll for having a brief moment of mental clarity.]

Let's stand up for the Constitution by demanding an unconstitutional recall presidential election. Only then will democracy be safe.

[Yes. Let's STAND up for the Constitution by demanding that an unconstitutional act take place. Only then will my mind be safe.]

The people cannot hold a recall election, because the Constitution doesn't allow for that.

[KILLJOY!!!]

What if millions took to the streets demanding real change?
What if we just drove them out of office (without waiting for Congress to act).
Kings and dictators and politicians have been driven from office through massive protest before. We can make it happen here.

[What if a leperchaun left a pot of gold on my doorstep?]

What if there were a sustained campaign to demand the end of the Bush regime. What if there were strikes/ work stoppages?

[Not One Damn Dime Day.]

This is a a Call for Direct Action: A Call for a Velvet Revolution, for an Orange Revolution - it's a message we have to take to the streets and all of the other direct action forms - telephone calls, faxes, petitions, marches.
sometimes, time honored, non-violent civil disobedience may be necessary.

Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Mandel, Cindy Sheehan..

[Goofy...]

You can "rewrite the bylaws" by amending the Constitution too... using the process called out in the document. It's a hard process, but it sounds like you have the energy to try it. Or...you can just keep bashing your head against a wall.

[The latter appears to be the most likely outcome.]

I'm calling for a Special Recall Election. That is a difference of significant distinction.

[Oh! A SPECIAL Recall Election. Well, now that's different. I thought you were only talking about an ordinary recall election.]

It is the law and you cannot recall whoever is the President or Vice-President...the only form of recall would be something like Impeachment...and for that we would need to control Congress and also get some more Senate seats, because even if it passed Congress, it would then go up to the Senate and it takes two thirds of the Senate to vote for an Impeachment.

[Please don't discourage DUmmie radio4progressives. He's on a roll!]

Well Damn it to Hell ! Start a Movement to change the laws then! A system of governance that ours have been these past five years is completley untenable, it is essentially a totalitarian regime. These bastards control every single branch of our government, there is not a wit of independence anywhere in sight. And the Corporate Media operates as their mouthpiece. Waiting for congress to move with impeachment is woefully inadequate! It doesn't even guarantee resignation, unless there are congressional prosecutions and convictions! Our system of democracy has completely broken down, either we take the matter into our hands or kiss any sense of a democratic and free nation good bye forever!

[WHEW! I just knew you could work up a great comedy comeback, DUmmie radio4progressives.]

Put some more tinfoil in your hat. Those mind rays are seeping in....

[And those mind cells are seeping out.]

How about this. We hold a special election 1n 06 for Galactic Emperor who would serve as the president's boss.

[Emperor Palpatine is available.]

All calls for *'s ouster need to be supported. This is a good one because it makes sense. The election was a joke. Fraud is evident from all the requisite measures. Whether or not we KNOW it was enough to change the election is the criteria for a recall. Why? Because the administration cannot show us that they were elected. The "magical ballots," the secrecy of the vendors regarding access to their machines, the blatant disenfranchisement of voters of color...all of these call for a recall!

[I call for a recall of your mind.

There is nothing written in the Constitution which PROHIBITS a "Vote of No Confidence", however the Constitutionally prescribed METHOD does present barriers and obstacles in holding a Recall election, and obstacles in a "No Confidence Vote" procedure, since our isn't a parliamentary system, so it isn't designed for such procedures. But then ours isn't designed for a participatory democracy for that matter - which is actually at the core of the problem, i think you're trying to point out, but it isn't the same as being "un-Constitutional"

[There is also nothing written in the Constitution which PROHIBITS the drinking of a Yoo Hoo while standing naked in the middle of a freeway.]

What's wrong with a National Referendum in 11/06, a vote of
No Confidence? If Bush loses, and doesn't step down, he's impeached.

[I would like a National Referendum on your mental sanity.]

2006, the FINAL CONFLICT
between what's left of our vestiges of democracy, checks and balances, and laws and the fledgling dictatorship (neocon backed by multi-national corp's).




[The Final Conflict---Nazarene, you have won... nothing...]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-26-05 ("Why impeachment may happen before the 2006 House races")

As we enter 2006, we will be seeing a certain word, "impeachment," with increasing frequency in the coming year as the DUmmies beat louder on their drums for the removal of Bush for office. They absolutely can't stand Bush and will do anything to get rid of him. The idea of Bush serving out his full term of office is intolerable to them. The allure of impeachment has driven the DUmmies past the bounds of sanity to the point where they actually think they can get a "package deal" impeachment by simultaneously also impeaching Cheney, Hastert, and everyone down the line of succession to the point where Kerry can be inaugurated as President. Therefore I am anticipating 2006 with much glee knowing that the DUmmies will be providing much entertainment in their impeachment mania. They are so desperate for the Bush impeachment (or as they would say, "chimpeachment," that they now even entertain the incredible delusion that Bush could be impeached BEFORE the congressional next year as you can see in this THREAD titled, "Why impeachment may happen before the 2006 House races." As usual the desperate DUmmie demands for chimpeachment are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that John Kerry was for chimpeachment before he was against it, is in the [brackets]:

Why impeachment may happen before the 2006 House races

[Why the leperchaun will lead me to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow before the 2006 House races.]

Yeah I know-- impeachment is a long shot- it ain't gonna happen-- we gotta get the house back.

[You gotta get the house back? Also a long shot.]

So far the Bush regime has maintained a veneer of a real democracy. And as long as that veneer remains-- they are all vulnerable to impeachment and indictments. At this point in time the BUSH regime has not pulled the trigger on martial law, or some similar power grab. It may be that they cant make the ultimate grab for power without losing what base that is left to the neo-cons. Without the Republican Party the Fascists dint have much in the way of support. SO, I'm guessing that for some reason-- they are not ready-- or are unwilling, at this point in time. And as long as that veneer remains-- they are all venerable.

[Vulnerable venerable veneer. Thank you for that inciteful analysis, vacuum mind.]

Republicans in the House have to run for re-election in 2006. It may come to the point where they go after the BUSH Regime-- just to keep their seats in the House, this way republicans maintain power in DC, rather than give it up. If they dint go after BUSH--- the DEM'S may take their House seats and impeach & even Convict.

[Which Crack House are you posting from?]

BUT, ask yourself, to maintain political power under the constraints of maintaining a veneer of a real democracy, does the Republican Party throw BUSH to the wolves? And is it better for the country to have republicans take out the Bush Regime prior to the 2006 Congressional races, possibly mitigating a pendulum swing to the left in the House, in 2006.

[Yeah, Republicans are going to impeach Bush. That brilliant analysis is the result of taking an extra big hit from the crack pipe.]

In my mind, that is the smart thing to do. but I dint see the Republican Party doing this. I dint see the bold personalities of quality leadership and thinking in the Republican Party. And I dint see a consensus forming quick enough to take advantage of throwing BUSH to the wolves. I dint think the republicans dint have what it takes, but the democrats do.

[Back to square one. You must make Chimpeachment a campaign issue next year to ensure the loss of even more Democrat seats. Yeah, the Chimpeachment demand and the video of Harry Reid jubilantly announcing that he killed the Patriot Act will ensure a massive Democrat loss in November. And now on to other DUmmies on the subject of Chimpeachment.]

actual impeachment would be a political disaster for the banana republican party. the only sympathetic way to actually get rid of shrub is for him to have a heart attack or something, god help us all if he actually exits prematurely in a way that promotes sympathy for him.

[DUmmie concern for the health of President Bush is deeply touching.]

SO how do the Neo COns keep the one party control in DC? thru 2006? Unless they have absolute control of the voting machines--------

[ALL your Diebolds belong to us.]

Mere wishful thinking is not a substitute for reasoned analysis.

[Wishful thinking in DUmmieland? "Who ever heard of such a thing," I thought to myself while attending John Kerry's inauguration on Jan. 20.]

The spying without warrants, the scanning of Muslim sites without a warrant, work in their favor. Americans are too stupid to understand the implications of what this administartion is doing. Many if not most Americans agree with these tactics. They see it as bush protecting America not as bush destroying the Constitution.

[They see it as Bush protecting America ALONG with the Constitution. I only hope the Republicans have enough sense in the 2006 campaign season to run OVER AND OVER on TV the Harry Reid video of him and his fellow Democrats publicly gloating over killing the Patriot Act.]

If I was in the Neo con leadership-- I would consider throwing BUSH to the wolves. It facilitates getting re-elected and maintaining power. It would allow me to control the process. And folks could lean back and think-- "see the process works, everything is just fine."

[So how did you enjoy John Kerry's inauguration on Jan. 20?]

Yes, every minute Bush remains in office..... he is doing damage to the Republican party. I'd jettison him now too, but the Repubs don't appear smart enough to make that move.I think pretty soon the Repubs may figure it out, and cut Bush loose. It will be too late to stop the damage, however. The best thing that may come out of the last 5 years is a Left-wing groundswell. Please Santa, that's what I want for Christmas!

[You have my condolences over the fact that the Grinch stole your Christmas.]

I think Bush is trying to create a dictatorship but I think he wants to do it in a more subtle way. He wants to make little changes that gradually take us in that direction. If he declared martial law, not only would most of the population object to it but many Republicans would too!!

[All Hail our Glorious Dictator---Chimpus Khan!]

I Don't Think The GOP IS Smart or Independent Enough To Off Bush. I think they will sit there like frogs in the pot, as the water slowly and steadily comes to a boil. The hallmark of Republicanism is an inability to think for oneself, to accept and deal with Reality in all its facets, and an overwhelming desire to follow anyone who looks stronger or projects a better facade.

[Inability to accept Reality? Did you get a good view of the proceedings during John Kerry's inauguration on Jan. 20?]

Great analogy, lemmings running off the cliff, if you are right we may see a majority in both the House and the Senate come January '07

[Yes. Great analogy. The Democrat/DUmmie Lemmings following Pied Piper Pitt over the cliff as he plays the alluring Chimpeachment tune on his pipe.]

Party/RNC: What is your national strategy to keep the House? The RNC must counter the DEM effort at impaechment and the must counter the DEM push to take the House back.

[Actually the RNC must encourage Democrat calls for Chimpeachment to make it THE issue of the campaign because the voters will REJECT the idea in a landslide. Even the political pros are scared of openly calling for Chimpeachment. Remember, Kerry was FOR Chimpeachment before he was AGAINST Chimpeachment.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-19-05 ("Anyone else here think that mankind is a mistake?")

"HEY WORLD YOU STINK!!!" Thus sang Lorenzo St. DuBois (LSD) is what is considered the FUnniest song ever, "Love Power," in the film, "The Producers." Of course, Dick Shawn as LSD, meant to be comical. However, the DUmmies are SERIOUS in thinking the world STINKS to the point that they want the entire human race to commit mass suicide so as to remove its "curse" from the earth as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD titled, "Anyone else here think that mankind is a mistake?" So sit back and relax while viewing the bizarre DUmmie HATRED for all of humanity. As usual, the homo sapien hating DUmmie rants are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, still a member of the outcast human race, is in the [brackets]:

Anyone else here think that mankind is a mistake?

[Only the DUmmie subspecies was a mistake.]

Just watching a guy on Sucker Carlson who thinks we (homo stupidens) out to opt out of the bio-diversity chain.

[Dingy Harry? He's pretty much of a walking downer.]

Is it true that:

We are a blight on mother earth. We over reproduce and harm everything else on the planet. So how about a breather for a few generations? let the planet heal. If we are meant to be we will re-emerge!

[Be my guest, DUmmies. Take yourselves out of circulation from these mortal coils.]

Kurt Vonnegut thinks we are a parasite on the planet and the earth is rejecting us with disease, famine, and natural disaters. We are not wanted.

[So if disease, famine, and natural disasters are wiping us out, what's the problem?]

We are a total screw up, IMHO, we have this amazing ability and intellect, and then what the hell do we do with it? bio warfare, mass exitinction, nukes, repukes, neocons, famine, deforestation, alienation. (going for some small measure of rhyme here).

[And DUmmiefication (going for some small measure of rhyme here).]

So what does anyone else think our time is up and maybe we should just step down gracefully and let the grizzly bears roam and the eagle soar in clean skies again?

[Sure...you first on the stepping down bit.]

OK, seriously here is the web site:

http://www.vhemt.org
The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

VHEMT (pronounced vehement) is a movement not an organization. It's a movement advanced by people who care about life on planet Earth. We're not just a bunch of misanthropes and anti-social, Malthusian misfits, taking morbid delight whenever disaster strikes humans. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Voluntary human extinction is the humanitarian alternative to human disasters.

[VHEMT aka Heaven's Gate Cult.]

We don't carry on about how the human race has shown itself to be a greedy, amoral parasite on the once-healthy face of this planet. That type of negativity offers no solution to the inexorable horrors which human activity is causing.

[Oh no. You don't engage in negativity. You just want the entire friggin' human race to kill themselves.]

Rather, The Movement presents an encouraging alternative to the callous exploitation and wholesale destruction of the Earth's ecology.

[Nice to know that mass suicide is an encouraging alternative. Keep up that positive mental attitude.]

As VHEMT Volunteers know, the hopeful alternative to the extinction of millions of species of plants and animals is the voluntary extinction of one species: Homo sapiens... us.

[Perhaps the VHEMT Volunteers could ALL show us how this mass suicide is to be done in a trial run.]

Each time another one of us decides to not add another one of us to the burgeoning billions already squatting on this ravaged planet, another ray of hope shines through the gloom.

[Every day in every little way, I'm getting better and better...until I off myself for being a scourge of the planet.]

When every human chooses to stop breeding, Earth's biosphere will be allowed to return to its former glory, and all remaining creatures will be free to live, die, evolve (if they believe in evolution), and will perhaps pass away, as so many of Mother Nature's "experiments" have done throughout the eons. Good health will be restored to the Earth's ecology... to the "life form" known by many as Gaia.

[I now propose that all DUmmies voluntarily remove themselves from the ecosystem of the sake of Gaia. And speaking of DUmmies, let us read the rest of their VHEMT comments...]

Sometimes I can't help but feel that Humans...
are a sexually transmitted disease. yeah, I'm a little cranky tonight.

[Sometimes I can't help but feel that DUmmies are a Herpes sore.]

Indeed, as Bluedawg pointed out...
it surprising how amazingly complex creatures that evolved from simple cell organisms can be so completely fucked up, base, and cruel. Sometimes it seems we would have been better off swimming in the primordial soup.

{Good News! DUmmies have remained the fungi of the primordial soup.]

I believe God has a boss who is a sadist

[Was that the Sunday Sermon at the First Church of the Eternal Gaia?]

Also it is not really true that every other mammal instinctively develops a natural equilibrium.
Deer can overpopulate for example.

[That's why we have hunting seasons.]

I guess an asteroid could wipe out everything but microbes, but then, that would be a fresh start...

[Keep hope alive!!!]

Or the god who made this flawed reality Was an asshole of biblical proportions.

[This week's sermon at the First Unitarian Church of the Universal Whatever.]

This reality is sick.And the reason I know this is true is because part of it(the evil essence) treats me as if my mere existence causes it pain(evil) and gives it a life(as in an evil parasite). I do not blame myself for being kidnapped by the cosmic f*ck up fake reality emanating from an evil ,blind jealous god.

[Actually I DO blame you for being an evil parasite.]

humans aren't a mistake, we're just
the only stage of evolution that decided to stop playing by the rules. Recall that until the agricultural revolution, homo sapien sapiens were peaceful hunter gatherers. Once we started tilling the ground, we were able to provide more food, thus our population grew. It hasn't stopped yet, and all we do is continue to over-consume.

[And while you're yakking away nonsensically, pass me the bag of Cheetos.]

There is a War of Essences, to be resolved on this reality on which the majority of consciousnesses, including those in human bodies, are evil or sickened by evil. The beings NOT of the evil or sociopathic reality who are still viable are to be evacuated,fixed or relocated in a more harmonious dimension suited to the kind of being they are by thier true nature. Those of evil,or the parasitic reality and those beings who's nature is of the sociopathic reality will no longer viable,they will be transmuted or destroyed in a final Corrective process.
I observe when I look at the situation we are in,hoew it really is,and therefore I concluded..there are Two Creations - a True One, and a false one, which has parasitically taken over a portion of the True One.Spiritual reality and reality itselves are sort of like 2 holographic images overlaying each other,they are very similar to one another exept one is false and flawed and sick....When it appears as "one" it's seen kind of like one sees stereo images.It looks like one with depth but in fact it is two. There is A war between the 2 creations - 2 natures - 2 wills - 2 principles.(this is why some people are f*cked,even plato said you cannot teach virtue to people who have no desire for wisdom or emotion of love or shame) There is a reality of temporary,parasitic essence of destructive Evil. Thre is a Final Corrective Process(as in people die off,life endds, Earth changes,or universe destroyed with entropy(or others).(look at what is happening to this planet it is dying and so many beings on it desire death(an end to struggle) in so many ways..)
There will be some kind of liberation of the viable( beings who's nature is not from the parasitic reality /essence/pricipal,overlaying reality). There will be some kind of transmutation of the non-viable consciousnesses in all classes of consciousness: mineral, vegetable, animal, human, spiritual, galactic ,universal ect..

[Are you on acid or merely quoting from a Scientology booklet?]

I myself am an alien consiousness kidnapped here in this body against my will. I look forward to death,so I can get out,go home. The "evil essence has made my life hell to get me to comprimise with my inner wisdom become sick like itself,and lie to myself about what I know and see and feel..but it failed.I'll die before I become a liar and betray myself to my true self.

[Is that you, R. Ron Hubbard?]

The Vishnu Purana, one of the oldest sacred texts of India says about the Kali Yuga, "The leaders who rule over the Earth will be
violent and seize the goods of their subjects... Those with
possessions will abandon agriculture and commerce and will live as servants, that is, following various possessions. The leaders,
with the excuses of fiscal need, will rob and despoil their
subjects and take away private property. Moral values and the rule
of the law will lessen from day to day until the world will be
completely perverted and agnosticism will gain the day among men."

[Hang on there, DUmmie! The Mother Ship will be arriving any minute now.]

I am a VHEMT Volunteer
And I know quite a few others.

[Is that you, Dr. Kevorkian?]

Personally, I think the planet would be better off without us. Even as a kid, I had this concept in my head of being a virus or a cancer in the body of a living organism. I remember in kindergarten learning about the microscopic things that lived inside me and thinking they probably were just going about their business, not realizing that they were potentially injuring their little universe (me). Even benign organisms can endanger the life of the host if they multiply unchecked, and when they do, the body fights to shake them loose. I figure we've got that coming, just through natural selection. The Earth can't sustain us at our present rate of growth for long, and something like AIDS or avian influenza or the super bacteria we're creating with overuse of antibiotics is bound to restore balance if we don't do it ourselves.

[I have this concept in my head of you being a useless parasite infecting the dark dank basement of your parents' home.]

Mesopotamia once had trees, now the land is barren, and salinated and pretty much nothing grows there.

[Please be sure to thank your hero, Saddam Hussein, for draining the marshes and bringing this about.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-16-05 ("Quick! Give me your stereotype of a 'typical Republican.'")

Quick! Give me your stereotype of a "typical DUmmie." How about dogmatic, clueless, and so gullible that he/she/it will readily hand money over to an obvious con artist for merely promising the possibility of overturning a presidential election. While the DUmmies are residing impotently in their Alternate Reality, they love nothing more than to take potshots at conservatives in general and Republicans in particular as you can see in this THREAD titled, "Quick! Give me your stereotype of a 'typical Republican.'" So let us now watch the typical DUmmies rage in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, perparing to don his jodhpurs for a day of polo riding at the Republican Country Club, is in the [brackets]:

Quick! Give me your stereotype of a "typical Republican."

[Quick! Give me your stereotype of a "typical Democrat." All you need to do is envision members of a typical asylum full of angry frustrated inmated raging long into the dark night. Dennis Kucinich comes to mind. Oh, and let us not forget Al Gore.]

A hollow suit . . . or a diehard redneck . . .

[Or a diehard redneck in a hollow suit.]

Pudgy, self satisfied asshole who cares not for the suffering of others. Someone who values things more than people.A clueless dolt with the transmitter stuck on LOUD and ALWAYS ON; and whose receiver is broken. In one word: SELFISH.

[George Soros?]

Me! Me! Me!
yup, that about says it. That is all they ever seem to be about.

[Who? Hollywood liberal celebs?]

thin lipped butfuck. With repressed deviant sexual proclivities.

[Did you post that while waitin on line to see "Bareback Mountain?"]

Gordon Gecko, the uber-capitalist from the flick Wall Street. Can't get more rigid and stereotypical than that.

[How about uber-capitalist David Geffen? Plus he is REAL.]

Fat, smug, homophobic, planet-rapers.

[I just got done ravishing Greenland.]

Most I know are former liberals

[Those are the folks who wised up.]

Typically dressed in brown.
slightly awkward step.

[And you are so pretty in pink with that cute minced step.]

They are afriad of new ideas.

[Like Spell Check?]

Uneducated. Low-class. Lives in a trailer and watches NASCAR.
Never read a book in his life because those are for "librul eletests". Can't find Australia on a map, even when offered a carton of Marlboros to do so. Self-absorbed and full of hate. Superstitious. Intolerant. If lucky, writes and spells like a fourth grader. In short, a knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing Neanderthal who, despite all evidence to the contrary, believes himself to be the pinnacle of human evolution (except he doesn't believe in evolution because his pastor told him it was the work of Satan and he always agrees with everything his pastor says).

[Speaking of spelling like a fourth grader, check out the DUmmie post just above yours.]

For a female Republican, I'd have to say the God Warrior lady comes to mind. Immensely fat, missing teeth, too many screaming children. Flies into foaming-at-the-mouth hysterics over absolutely anything that doesn't exactly match her world view or that Bill O'Reilly thinks she should be hysterical about ("The War on Christmas!!! Dork-sided!!!! Yargh!!!" *head spins around and spews pea soup*). Thinks child discipline is a smack on the back of the head accompanied by "ya'll shut up before I whup ya". Prays for healing from God before she tries the doctor. Wears a giant cross over her Bedazzler (tm) shirt so that everyone she meets will know how godly she is.

[You're on a stereotype roll! Don't stop now. Continue...]

Both of these creatures have no and want no actual facts at their disposal. They become extremely threatened when people present actual facts in the course of political or religious discussion, forcing them to engage in ad hominem attacks like "Why do you hate America?", "My pressedent is going to put all of you librul faggot baby-killer goat fuckers in concentration camps!", and the old favorite, "You love Saddam Hussein".

[Have you spoken to Ramsey Clark lately?]

I like being urban, smug, self-righteous, and over-educated, and I've seen enough rural ignorance to last me the rest of my life, and I could give a flying f*ck what Joe NASCAR or you or anybody else thinks about my attitude on the subject. That's right, I'm an unapologetic elitist in YOUR Democratic Party. And you can't do a damn thing about it. Hope it pisses you off all day. Have a nice afternoon.

[Is that you, Congressman Fortney ("Pete" for the Peons) Stark?]

A fat white bald guy, in an expensive suit, with a Roladex
watch, smoking a cigar, and being driven around in a Lincoln Town Car.

[Thank you for that accurate description of Ed Rendell.]

When I think "typical Republican", the image I get is
of a middle aged white guy making only slight more than minimum wage. Racist, homophobic, VERY angry about their shitty life so they use liberals as a scapegoat, driving a full sized truck with about 10 of those "support the troops" ribbons that were made in China on the back, totally lacking a sense of humor and proudly displays that fact by continuing to tell Clinton-blow job jokes (and thinking they are "clever" or "original" with those jokes), believes that liberals' are trying to take their guns and Santa Clause away from them, repeats the phrases "commie" and "socialist" but can't actually define those words, gets all their "news" from Fox "News".

[Um...speaking of being VERY angry with their your shitty life...]

Rich. Went to the best schools. Summers in New England,
winters in Palm Beach (And uses the words summer and winter as verbs.) Wears $3000 suits and handmade shoes. Belongs to the best clubs, where he and his friends conspire to rip off the public.

[Michael Eisner?]

Somebody with a large bank account
and an expensive car, house and 2.5 kids

[Jail that capitalist criminal!]

two subspecies. the dumb gun-toting redneck flag waving bible thumper and the wealthy, greedy, suit wearing, sexually repressed, christian business man

[So much for all that blather right after the 2004 election about reaching out to the Red State folks.]

Republicans are people who honestly believe that they are God's gift to the world and therefore they deserve only the best, no matter how they get it. They honestly believe that others who they perceive to be beneath them, deserve as little as possible. They want to own and control it all, whether it be a small enterprise or a worldwide corporation. They have no sense of how a community functions. They are highly manipulative and typically live in a fantasy world dictated only by their personal wants and needs. They are not (almost never) what you'd call generous. They need deprogramming.

[They need deprogramming? So are you LIHOP or MIHOP? Give us some astrological forecasts about the political future. Have you chanted any faux Hopi Indian prayers this morning? which Alternate Reality do you believe i? Oh, and did you attend the Inauguration of John Kerry on Jan. 20? I BEEEEELEEEEEEVE!!!]

Micheal Dell. And I will NEVER buy a dell computer and give him
one dime of my money.

[NOW you tell me! Too bad I just bought another computer recently or I would have bought a Dell.]

Snacks on paint-chips, has a protruding forehead, with two or three teeth in their mouth..




[You forgot to mention the horns in that protruding forehead.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-15-05 ("Where have all the hippies gone?")

In light of the fact that I saw the "Die Hippie, Die!" episode on South Park last night, it is really karmatic that today I found this DUmmie THREAD titled, "Where have all the hippies gone: a poll for hippies past and present." I can answer that question. Most of the aging hippies are in a state of semi-hibernation deep in their parents' basements from where they make nostalgic posts in DUmmieland about how wonderful the '60s were. Yes, time has passed them by. Although the vast majority of Hippies have disappeared from public view, there are still a few of them wandering around in the wild like an endangered species. As a matter of fact, I pride myself on being a Big Game Hippie Hunter and was actually able once to bag a nearly extinct Hippie in the Santa Cruz mountains as you can read in my personal adventure story: HIPPIE HUNTING. So let us now enter the extinct Age of Aquarius and watch the DUmmie Hippies wax nostalgic in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, wearing an ancient set of love beads, is in the [brackets]:

Where have all the hippies gone: a poll for hippies past and present

[Where have all the hippies gone? If ever there was a DUmmie thread title crying out for song parody, this is it. (Hint: To the tune of "Where Have All The Flowers Gone?")]

Growing up in the '60s and early '70s one could hardly avoid knowledge of the Hippie movement.

[Just follow the odor trail of the burning sweet green leaf.]

Profound and silly, angry and loving, passionate and thoughtful, for many the Hippie movement left deep impressions. For others, it was a fad.

[And the "others" went on to lead NORMAL lives.]

There can be no doubt that those who grew up then are of age to be in charge now. But looking around it isn't hard to see that this is -not- Hippie Heaven.

[Paradise Lost or should it be Aquarius Lost?]

There is lots of room for discussion about what the Hippie movement was, what happened to it, what long-term influences (if any) society in general has inherited? I hope we can do that here.

[The best thing about the Hippie movement is that it provide great satirical material such as last night's "Die Hippie, Die!" South Park episode.]

What I'd like to ask the -Hippies- (past and present) is: what happened?

[Answer: Most Hippies finally sobered up and the rest of them are still in a severe state of OD and posting nostalgically in DUmmieland about a Golden Age that never was.]

So why do you think the Hippies didn't make a bigger dent in the Establishment? With the RW controlling House, Senate and WH, what happened?

[When the drug haze finally lifted, sanity returned.]

I was amazed at Reagan’s ability to deceive with a smile and warm words. People I trusted and who I was certain knew better were buying into “Morning In America”. I was mystified. As the 80’s matured, I began to realize my first impressions were right. They did know better. They just wanted a piece of the action, and Reagan was a very comfy chair to settle into for that rightward, all expense paid cruise.

[Thanx for giving us yet another reason to admire Ronald Reagan. He was the one who finally got rid of the Hippie Movement.]

Progressives had a long dark night during Reagan. The party was essentially invisible. Alone and in the dark, it’s not hard to see why people were convinced to get in line. Well funded think tanks pumped out quality propaganda that yielded immediate results. “Do your own thing” became corrupted to “I got mine” and proved to be a toxic mix with RW radio. More poison for the body politic. Now the patient was going septic

[NEWSFLASH! Dawn never returned for "progressives" nor hippies.]

Before my eyes, students went from reading Ginsburg to Rand.
Why? It’s easy to understand now. Dead bodies stink, you see. And the Democratic Party was starting to get quite ripe. Easy pickings for the vultures on the DLC as the decade came to an end. For all his shortcomings, Clinton was quite a reprieve and given the circumstances was more than could have been hoped for. He and the barn-door eared Ross Perot threw the right wing into such a rage they never really recovered, and the newer more virulent form of republicanism stepped into the void. That pretty much brings us to where we are today; at the cliff's edge, looking into the abyss.

[Jump! JUMP!!!]

And didn't it hurt that so many hippies were leaving university/college for jobs? The solidarity with a cause that one could feel in student protests didn't exist when applying for a job. Long hair didn't feed a family. Flower power didn't get a job. One by one we got picked off as we entered the work-force.

[Damn REALITY for destoying our beautiful Hippie Dream!]

The counterculture saved this country, and it has never stopped paying the price for that. The left forgot about the culture war, but the right made it a crusade. What we are experiencing today is a direct result of forgetting who our friends are so we could sit in the bosses Mercedes whenever we wanted.

[Thanx for that laugh line: "The counterculture saved this country."]

Not much has changed since the '60s. Yes, we've obtained more civil rights for some groups of peoples, but the basic need to persecute continues with new targets: the GLBT community, Arabs, the French... that persecution continues along ideological grounds as well as morphological indicates a worsening of the damage done to our society.

[Poor persecuted French. Let us chant a mantra for them.]

Different drugs came into fashion....
Marijuana & the occasional psychedelic were replaced by cocaine. Not for everyone--but there was a significant change. Marijuana was cheap & so were most psychedelics. (Mushrooms are free.) And they fostered a laid-back, peaceful lifestyle. Again, not for everyone. Too many psychedelics can turn the brains to mush--temporarily for some, permanently for a few.

[The big sea change happened when the drug of choice for future DUmmies went from pot to crack.]

There was a very laid back feeling about the drug culture. So why would people get themselves hooked onto something like Coke?

[Because it was there.]

Was Disco a cause or symptom?
Old style hippies didn't spend a lot of money in the dominant economy. We got a lot of our threads at used shops, didn't buy new cars, threw a lot of our cash into the underground economy which was very small time. Head shops and hip clothing stores got by at best but were cool places to hang out. I watched this change as glitter rock/disco hit the scene, people who were just hippie stylin' jumped to the next thing and next thing you know everything just seemed to get cheezy. I know it's irrational but I've always blamed the decline of the hip culture of the 60's(which ended in 72) on disco, which put more money in the pockets of the dominant culture, not to mention coke dealers.

[Time now to wax nostalgic over Disco Era 100% polyester body suits.]

Let's not forget how key the CIA was to the cocaine traffic of that time, and perhaps even today. It was the gift that kept on giving to the RW.
They love snorting it, they love selling it, they love what it does to people, they love what it does to Central and South American governments, they love what it did to the counterculture and they love the laws they were able to pass because of it. It's GOP white gold, and they have a poster boy for the snort set sitting on the golden throne now. It's like manna from their twisted version of heaven.

[The latest DUmmie Tinfoil Hat Theory: Coke was introduced into this country as a way to destroy the counterculture.]

Many Americans wouldn't recognize the US of the 1950's. Far from finding it a golden age, they would be half choked by the repression and cultural vapidity surrounding them. The images of that time we see today are almost all derived from television.

[Let's see. Rock 'n' Roll came into being in the 1950s and it is still considered the Golden Age of Television. Plus Broadway musicals were being produced on a huge basis. Is this is the "cultural vapidity" you are talking about?]

No Hippies no clean food -- only corporate chemical mutant food product. Hippies made it plain: give us clean food, and take your corporate GE, Chem0-Soaked Food Product and stick it down your own gullet.

[Thanx for reminding us about how clean the lice-infested Hippies were.]

Alot of people who looked and acted like freaks....
Weren't really freaks, but going along with a popular movement. I think alot of people are doing that today with the rightwing movement. In other words, they're "moderates" who want to be on the winning side. When being a Liberal becomes "cool" again, alot of these people will swing our way.

[Trust me. The liberal fad has faded long ago.]

You can still find Hippies . . .
here in New England. Vermont has its share, as does MA, and even back-water towns along the NY border can usually rustle up a few tie-dyed potters and woodworkers.

[Hippies in Vermont? Why does this NOT surprise me?]

Hippies were the Fools of our time...walking off cliffs, oblivious to danger, seeking their dreams.



[Not after walking off cliffs.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-14-05 ("Bev Harris of BBV coming on Artbell show!")

Bev Harris is BACK! And she is only $10 away from overturning the 2004 election results! For those of you unfamiliar with Bev Harris, she was the one-time heroine of DUmmieland upon whom the DUmmies placed their hopes and considerable bucks in a effort to prove vote fraud. In this effort, Randi Rhodes of Err America was her chief shillmeister which gave Bev even more credibility among the DUmmies. Despite NUMEROUS advance warnings here on the DUmmie FUnnies, both the DUmmies and Randi continued to promote Bev vigorously. The end result was that both the DUmmies and Randi realized they were SCAMMMED when it was too late. Maybe they should have paid attention to the MANY clues provided in the DUFUs such as the fact that Bev avoided the Ohio battleground state like the plague and preferred to use her DUmmie donations to investigate "vote fraud" in Florida from the confines of 5-star hotel suites. And yet, despite the fact that the DUmmies (and Randi) finally woke up after having been EASILY conned by BBV Bev, she is BACK in the hearts of the DUmmies as you can see in this THREAD titled, "Bev Harris of BBV coming on Artbell show....on next!" So let us watch the DUmmies work themselves into a frenzy as a prelude to opening their wallets for Bev Harris again in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, hearing the faint theme tune of "The Sting" in the distance, is in the [brackets]:

Bev Harris of BBV coming on Artbell show....on next!

[Bev Harris on the Art Bell show? How very VERY appropriate.]

If you do not know your local radio affiliate who carries the Art Bell show free, aka coasttocoastam....go to their site...artbell.com and look under affiliates. To get online stream, it costs money.

[You are just $10 away from hearing Bev Harris online.]

She is talking right now about Diebold...

[Get ready to wet your panks and yank your wallet.]

Good for her , go get em Bev !

[Thus posted an obvious mark.]

She is not exactly either credible or a DU favorite.
After what she did on DU and to many DUers why would anyone want to listen to her?????

[Oh. Finally WOKE UP did we? And how many bucks did you go thru before Reality dawned upon you?]

As she is not welcome at DU it would appear it is more than just to "some" Her viciousness to Andy before he died was enough to render her persona non grata with most posters who didn't already despise her. I am sorry but it sickens me when anyone tries to promote this woman in anyway esp on DU.JMHO.

[Her crime was not giving Andy his fair share of the scam.]

I was one who donated for Andy's operation even tho I was unemployed. I don't know of the battles you speak of.
Don't denigrate me for trying to do anything to get rid of these damned machines.
Put squabbles aside and look at the big picture.

[Look at the big picture. It is worth getting scammed again if it can give us more false hope.]

I don't denigrate you. It is Ms. Harris I have no respect for.
You are wonderful to pay attention to this issue, but she is not a good source.

[Why not? Bev is just as good a source as any of the DUmmies constantly promoting election whacko election conspiracy theories in DUmmieland. Bev's genius was in actually using those whacko election conspiracy theories as a marketing tool to scam you folks out of your bucks.]

I think people are getting tired of the anti Bev stuff, it's getting VERY VERY OLD. And quite possible a little silly.

[Bev stuff always makes for great DUFU material!]

I just don't think such viciousness and deceit ought to be forgotten. And Life and Death, is not something to be made light of. And many newer members are unaware of who Bev REALLY is.

[Bev Harris always has a fond place in the hearts of the DUFU fans for providing us with such great hilarious material by so EASILY scamming the DUmmies.]

If someone lies and cons you like that in the past
how can you ever trust them again? I've been lied to time and time again so I know how that feels. How can you ever trust that person again? Even if you do you still have that deep thought in your mind that they might be lying to you again.

[You've been lied to time and time again. And time and time again you just keep handing over your $$$. How can you expect a con artist to refrain from scamming a mark like you?]

I won't forget. Ever.

[Until the NEXT TIME you hand over $10.]

And don't forget what happened at Free Republic

[Yeah. They laughed their asses off over how easily Bev Harris scammed you in DUmmieland.]

Don't forget conning people
and just plain lying.

[Bev Harris is just $10 away from never conning people or lying again. Send money now.]

Bev has done a tremendous amount for the fraud
of evoting. She was instrumental in awakening America. Of course Andy was a tremendous partner and help, as others, including myself were, in that regard.
I am sick and tired of the chip on what you all draw like a badge. It hurts America and our power as voters. I respect tremendously what Andy, Bev, and others have done. In case you havent noticed, WE HAVE WORK TO DO!!!

[Yes. There is much work to do in the cause of proving vote fraud. So lets start off by putting our energies into, um, fundraising.]

Bev havs ben working with the opposition by her own admission. She posted about her GOP ties on her site. But whatever.And Bev did very little except take credit for others work. She is NOT entitled to respect. Sorry.

[I respect the way Bev so easily conned you DUmmies despite the NUMEROUS warnings you received.]

Anyone can look up her past and see what all she has done and once they find out do you think they're going to believe her about voting fraud? I don't think so. She's a con artist herself. From someone who has only had liars as so-called friends excuse me while I don't jump on the band wagon. There are other people working on the fraud case who you can trust such as BradBlog and John Conyers. Their trackrecord is much better than hers.

[BradBlog and John Conyers are only $10 away from proving vote fraud.]

I don't think we can trust her - at all.

[The wake up call finally reached you...too late.]

I know you feel burned...but think about it
There are people who are not computer literate, who do not know what is going on, who are hearing of this for the first time.
Look at the larger picture. We need more people who are aware of the pitfalls of these electronic voting machines. This is only about that.

[Look at the larger picture. There are people who are not literate who don't know what is going on who are now getting burned for the first time.]

Yes, we need to educate ourselves and others about election fraud. But if this woman (I can't even type her name) is leading the charge, count me (and tens of thousands of other DUers) OUT. We will proceed in this work without this bitch.

[Getting scammed in an OBVIOUS con is a real bitch.]

She is still part of the election reform movement
We just have to deal with the fact that some people on our side are going to be assholes some of the time. This is true for any issue movement, and the work still has to come first. We don't need to give her money or support her in any other way, but it's pointless to stop her ongoing participation. The movement is way, way bigger than she is at this point.

[You just have to deal with the fact that MOST people on your side are going to be suckers most of the time so you DO need to give her money.]

You don't seriously think DUers will call to talk to Bev after her actions after the things she has done? It wouldn't be pretty if they did.

[Perhaps the DUmmies won't call to talk to Bev but they will definitely send $$$ to her.]

She has tainted evrything she has been involved with.
Remember the opinion Keith Olberman and Randi Rhodes had of her. I respect both Randi and KO and they completly disrespect her. Randi makes no bones about the fact she feels Bev stole money from her listeners. And that is the tip of the iceberg. No one credible supports this woman. She is destroying the vote herself for her own ends.

[Randi has also tossed Bev Harris down her memory hole. Even her interview archives about Bev are gone. However, my memory is still intact---Randi Rhodes was the chief media shill for the BBV Bev scam.]

I've seen enough paranoid dellusions out of the woman to
question her perception of "truth".

[Thank you for that accurate description of virtually all DUmmies.]

Perhaps you need to take Bev down from that cross
She doesn't look comfortable.

[The Passion of the Bev.]

And from her conning people she has tainted anything she would ever say in the future.

[Yes. We remember how EASILY she conned the people of DUmmieland despite tons of warnings in advance.]

And then Keith, who'd been sympathetic, had to back away from her and say that maybe we'd all been conned.

[Including Keith Olbermann.]

As I said before anyone could look up her history all the way from conning and lying to what happened with Andy.

[You COULD have looked up her history PRIOR to being conned but YOU didn't. Therefore you DESERVED to be conned. Congratulations on emptying out your wallet!]

What I do know and I was THERE in the very beginning, even before Bev**, and I will tell you that Bev got things moving to a level that few if any others did.

[Bev was certainly successful in raising the level of her bank account.]

But what did SHE do?

[Bev successfully raised vast funds in order to investigate vote fraud from 5-star hotel suites in Florida.]

Bev made things MOVE. Bev helped bring attention to the crisis and put it on the map. She may not have done it perfectly. Fine. But SHE GOT PRESS. Others did not. I believe Andy would concur, whatever the disagreement was. I hope I am right.

[Bev Harris is just $10 away from making things MOVE again.]

What I am saying is that Andy DID CARE who the messanger was and he would not have personally supported BEV. It does make a difference WHO it is. But it will never be Bev so we don't have to worry as she has never accomplished anything yet. Seems she always needs "more money"!

[Just $10 MORE to be exact.]

She took quite a bit of money and there are quite a few folks around these parts who feel like that money was wasted.

[The technical term for those folks is "suckers."]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-13-05 ("It Just Keeps Getting Worse -- from Jim Hightower")

Does anybody out there remember Jim Hightower? Don't feel bad if you don't since he has become a complete has-been. However, before blessedly fading away from public view about 10 years ago, Hightower was once hailed as the liberal answer to Rush Limbaugh. Yes, he was the ORIGINAL Al Franken. Years before Err America flopped on the airwaves, Jim Hightower bombed completely in the opinion of radio listeners. If you had ever had the "pleasure" of hearing Hightower's radio antics you would quickly understand why his radio ratings quickly plummeted to Al Franken levels. Although Hightower started out as a typical hard core Texas leftist, he came to believe that he would be more "acceptable" if he donned a Bareback Mountain cowboy hat and put on a completely phony sounding cornball personality shtick. Unfortunately for Hightower, his makeover never caught on with the radio listeners. Listening to Hightower made your mind feel about as empty as his BLOG.
Mercifully, Hightower's simplistic act on national radio lasted only a brief period since in the end, he was about as dull as his liberal radio cohort, Mario Cuomo. However, just because there was a mercy killing of Hightower's radio career, this doesn't mean he doesn't make a bizarre leftist squawk every now and then as evidenced in this DUmmie THREAD titled, "It Just Keeps Getting Worse -- from Jim Hightower." Yeah, according to Jim Hightower, the Mengele scientists in the EVIL Bush administration are using pesticides to carry out experiments on infants, orphans, and the mentally handicapped. The desperate bid for attention by Jim Hightower and his DUmmie acolytes is in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, about to take a bite on an alar coated apple from the Meryl Streep Orchards, is in the [brackets]:

It Just Keeps Getting Worse -- from Jim Hightower

[Absolutely true. Jim Hightower's commentary just keeps getting worse.]

Today's Commentary
http://www.jimhightower.com

Monday, December 12, 2005

"PESTICIDE TESTING ON KIDS"

[You forgot to add "...BY EVIL BUSH REPUBLICANS."]

I'm whopperjawed. I'm stunned. I'm sick. I'm disgusted. I'm fuming.

[You're also WRONG but that never stopped you before. Do continue, Jim.]

If you thought that you could no longer be shocked by anything the Bushites do, you've obviously not heard of the latest, inhuman, totally depraved, appalling bit of evil coming out of Bush's EPA. These so-called environmental and health protectors have proposed a new rule regarding the testing of toxic pesticides on humans – a deplorable practice that the chemical makers have long favored. Because EPA had been caught supporting tests in which children were intentionally dosed with pesticides, congress mandated in August that the agency issue a rule permanently banning such pesticide tests, without exception.

[If you thought that you could no longer be shocked by anything Jim Hightower does, you've obviously not heard his latest, inhuman, totally depraved, appalling commentary.]

In September, EPA issued its proposed rule, hailing it as "a landmark regulation on human studies," and flatly declaring that "certain kinds of human research can never be acceptable." Beyond its flowery declaration of ethical principles, however, EPA's proposal is 30 pages of fine print that viciously guts those very principles by giving the pesticide corporations clear-cut exceptions to the supposed ban on human testing.

[Yes, this story was carried in the Far Left WNY MEDIA NETWORK so it MUST be true!!!]

Get ready to puke, for these are some of the exceptions:

- Neglected or abused infants can be subjected to pesticide tests, without the consent of parents or guardians.

- Mentally handicapped and orphaned infants may be used for tests for the sake of research.

- EPA will accept industry pesticide tests done on children outside the U.S., including in countries with minimal or no ethical standards.

[-DUmmies who waste away their lives in front of computer screens deep in their parents' dark basements.]

Not only do these repulsive exceptions violate even the lowest level of human decency and morality, but they also are in direct violation of congress's mandate to allow no exceptions to the ban on such test – zero. The agency has cynically chosen industry profits over children's welfare.

[Yes, this story has been carried on a variety of obscure Leftist websites so it must be as real as the PAUL MIRECKI BEATING. And now that Has-Been Hightower has uttered his phony outrage, let us hear from his DUmmies in spirit...]

Dr Mengele must be beaming up from hell

[Dr. Mengele is currently splitting his time between residing in hell and running an abortion clinic in your neighborhood.

I want to go back to my real reality please *whimper whimper*

[Calm down. I am issuing you a free pass to enter your own Alternate Reality where phony leftist news stories passes for real.]

Shades of Nazi Germany, I swear. And oh, the irony! Stem
cell research is unacceptable, but this is?

[You mean abortion or the phony leftist news story?]

I'm a bit confused. I'm Jim Hightower's biggest fan. I worked in Child Protective Services for seven years (retired to go back to law school).
When a child is 'orphaned,' 'abused' or 'neglected,' they are taken into protective custody by the State, and subject to the jurisdiction of the Court - Dependency Court. We had to have a court order for anything beyond the most general checkup. NO judge is going to authorize this kind of experimentation ... none that I know of ... and I have worked with them for thirteen years, including the CPS work, volunteer and law clerk work. Same deal with the mentally-handicapped; a guardian ad litum is appointed, and they are subject to the jurisdiction of the Court. No judge would authorize this kind of experimentation. So, I am wondering what is meant here.

[You just made too much sense (except for the part about being Jim Hightower's biggest fan) so prepare for your tombstoning ceremony.]

There is not one truly redeemable characteristic in any member of this administration or I guess corporate America.

[Thank you for giving a heads up on the 2008 Democratic platform.]

I am not for the death penalty, but, damn, these bastards make it hard!

[Methinks you would have no problem administering the death penalty for Republicans as long as it didn't involve the messy trial process.]

Jim Hightower is working from false information

[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]

In earlier threads on this, I worked my fingers to nubs (yes, I now use the two-nub system to type) debunking this shit sausage. For now I'll say,IT JUST AIN'T SO!

[HURRY! HURRY! TOMBSTONE THIS LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]

Here are two threads. The others seem to have dropped into the archives.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=173637

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x178959

[Make MrMonk STOP!!! He is using FACTS to debunk the phony Jim Hightower story!!!]

Here's another: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5366080

[I'm MEEELLLLTINNNNGGGGGG!!!]

Others, such as saying that the rules allow testing on orphans and the mentally handicapped, are flat-out not true. Considering the supposed expertise of the parties making such claims, I think that it would be fair to call them malicious liars.



[Please Skinner! I BEG you to TOMBSTONE MrMonk for making too much sense!!!]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-12-05 ("Is anyone esle annoyed with the proselytizing of the Narnia movie?")

The DUmmies are upset over the fact that there might be a (GASP! SHOCK!) message in the recently released Narnia movie as you can see in this THREAD titled, "Is anyone esle annoyed with the proselytizing of the Narnia movie?" Yeah, this is soooooo unique in a movie. As if "Bareback Mountain," "Syriana," or "Good Night and Good Luck" have no messages. The truth is that almost ALL movies have some sort of message. Often people might not even agree with the message to enjoy the movie. An example is "Doctor Strangelove" and its message that the U.S. military are a bunch of lunatics. No, I don't believe this but guess what? I consider "Dr. Strangelove" one of the best comedies ever made and NEVER miss a chance to watch it when it plays on the tube. "Bareback Mountain," is saying its ok to be gay and if DUmmies want to see it, that's ok with me although I'll be taking a pass on it. So let us watch the extreme DUmmie concern with "Narnia" in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, who as a result of this DUmmie thread is planning to watch this flick this week, is in the [brackets]:



Is anyone esle annoyed with the proselytizing of the Narnia movie?

[Is anbody "esle" annoyed with the proselytizing of "Bareback Mountain?"]

When I was little I loved "The Lion, the witch, and the wardrobe" from the Narnia series,it is still one of my favorite books to read today, and when I first saw the previews months ago for the movie version, I wanted to see it. When I was little I could care less about the symbolism, and I still don't. But the proselytizing of the movie by fundies, like Robertson and others is making me sick and has turned me off from even seeing movie. Does anyone else feel this way??

[You mean there are Proselytizing Booths just outside the movie theater exits for quickie conversions?]

Clearly people...
...without much knowledge of CS Lewis and his life...

[Yes, despite what Lewis actually said about his own book, he intended NO message in his writings.]

Yes. The Funddies and evangelicals are making it more than Lewis intended
These people are driving me nuts.

[According to the DUmmies, Lewis wished to spread the message of Secular Humanism mixed in with astrology and Hopi Indian Prayers.]

No. Most movies get hyped, and this is a movie. Doesn't bother me.

[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]

The two greatest forces in the world, good and evil, can be symbolized in almost anything. I think these nut cases are taking the joy out of everything and God is not pleased...but that is just what my spirit tells me.

[A DUmmie speaks with the authority of God Almighty.]

Wait till you see the full-on big budget multi-part Lord-of-the-Rings-inspired version of the entire freaking bible (including the war in heaven, the fall of Lucifer, and of course, the book of Revelations). Brought to us by our very own febrile christo-fascist wack-job Pat Robertson. Now in pre-production. This brain-melting assault of dominionist christianity on our country is just getting under way.

[Have no fear. The Cloud Ten "Left Behind" flicks were box office bombs. Why? Because the scripts were laughable. Fact is, no matter the message you have to have GOOD scripts (and acting).]

I'm tired of everything having to be turned into something else. There is an obvious Christian allegory in the books, but it's ridiculous to insist that this be some sort of movie 'for them and them only.' There are plenty of people who hail from other religions, or are not religious, and to co-opt it as some kind of litmus test is an insult to the idea of simply enjoying a film as a story. People are allowed to not believe in something if they want.

[And this DUmmie wins a Kewpie Doll for having a brief moment of mental clarity.]

I didn't even like the book,
I quit reading it not far into it. I found it rather disturbing for some reason - though I don't recall what that reason was now.

[Probably the use of too many words over one syllable messed it up for you.]

How can fundies suddenly become "more" annoying?
I always thought they set the bar for what annoying was. I'm not going to let the fact that they like something prevent me from enjoying it. I'm sure some of them like pizza. I'm a fan of that as well.

[Go ahead. Please refrain from watching the movie just because the "fundies" like it. And while you're at it, quit eating pizza as well.]

I intend to see the movie and enjoy it as fantasy, just like the Harry Potter and LOTR flicks.
But if a proselytizer comes around and pushes a pamphlet in my face, I'll tell them to take it back or I'll make them eat it.

[You would prefer it if a proselytizer pushes something else in your face at a screening of "Bareback Mountain."]

I didn't know that this was supposed to be a Christian anology-I always saw it as a Alice in Wonderland knock off-but at this point don't be surprised to hear the RW radio nuts to equate the "White Witch" with Hillary.

[Actually I equate Hillary with the Wicked Witch of the East.]

I didn't know about the Christian symbolism til last week
Now I'm less interested in seeing it. That kind of spoiled it.

[Yeah. That pretty much ruined it for you. You probably would have enjoyed it until someone mentioned that there might be a disturbing message in it.]

Please don't let the fundies ruin these wonderful books for you, and please don't make them cause you to miss out on this movie.


[Oh go ahead and let them ruin it for you.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12--09-05 ("I'm beginning to think Al Gore is best person to unite the Democrats...")

The FUnnie thing about this DUmmie THREAD titled "I'm beginning to think Al Gore is best person to unite the Democrats..." is that it is CORRECT. Yes, Al Gore is the ONE Democrat that could unite the Democrats (while uniting the NORMAL people against him). However, one little problem. Although Al Gore could EASILY get the nomination, even over Hillary, he is NOT going to run. Why? Because Al Gore feels he is ENTITLED to the Presidency and doesn't want to go through the annoying campaign process. Gore wants the presidency just handed up to him on a silver platter. And since this won't happen, Gore doesn't want to subject himself again in real life to what is a continuing nightmare in his imagination. Despite his denials, Gore has NOT gotten over the 2000 election. He relives it almost every minute of the day. Even his current home in Tennessee looks like a White House. His bizarre behavior (polite way of saying "acting like a nutcase") is all a result of his 2000 election loss. So sorry, DUmmies. While Al Gore is the ONLY one who can beat Hillary, he WON'T be running. Therefore you DUmmies must sit back impotently and watch as mere bystanders as Hillary grabs the nomination before losing the general election in a landslide. As usual, the DUmmie yearnings for Al Gore are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, a bit despondent over being deprived of Al Gore entertainment in 2008, is in the [brackets]:


I'm beginning to think Al Gore is best person to unite the Democrats...

[True. Nowadays the Democrats will ONLY unite under a fellow Moonbat.]

I think Al Gore has a bad taste in his mouth from the 2000 election. He was real sour on politics after that ordeal. He gave everything he had, contrary to those that wanted more. He was physically burnt out from that campaign, in my opinion.

[I think Al Gore obsesses over the 2000 election even while lying in bed next to a snoring Tipper. He is thinking to himself: "537 votes. 537 LOUSY VOTES! And my own home state of Tennessee turned against me. Why didn't Bill help me out more? HE BETRAYED US!!!"]

However, he won as a populist, even as the DLCers were saying he was making a mistake. He came from far behind to win that race and was devastated when it was stolen. He made the mistake of listening to the experts who told him the best thing to do would be to not fight the Supreme Court. That was the end of the road.

[Shame on Al Gore for ultimately bowing to reality (before relapsing again). He should have set up a government in exile.]

But no one has spoken more eloquently or passionately since that time, whether or not we liked or disliked Al Gore. But I'm not sure he still has the fire in the gut. If he did, I think I could support him one more time. After all, he beat Bush.

[Al Gore will accept the presidency...but only if he can get it without having to work that ugly campaign thing again.]

I could support him if he would speak out against the war, budget cuts that hurt the poor, and tax cuts for the top .2% of Americans. He may have already, I just haven't heard him yet.

[You couldn't hear the SCREECHING Al Gore? What planet are you from?]

The reason he picked Lieberman was purely political...
All the prognosticators thought the election might come down to the state of Florida and Lieberman, being Jewish, would help carry that state for Gore, and perhaps the election. That was the only reason he was chosen, in my opinion.

[Hmm...Under the Alternate Universe scenario Al Gore would be elected President. But then he soon cracks under the pressure (as we have seen him crack over losing). Then since he would be mentally disabled, VP Lieberman is sworn in as President. The end result is the the war in Iraq is still pursued.]

He's high on my list of possible candidates provided he has learned to act like a human being.

[That pretty much disqualifies Gore right there.]

Today's news re Gore.
Al Gore's crusade comes to Stanford
DELIVERS LECTURE ON GLOBAL WARMING

[Really bad timing considering there is a record cold wave up North.]

I think Gore could win, and there are several strong VP possibilities.

[Such as Daffy Duck.]

Gore over anyone else being currently pushed for the job? ABSOLUTELY. In fact, right now it would be hard for me to think of someone who could do better. Except Howard Dean, of course. But he supposedly took himself out of the running.

[As did Al Gore.]

So, can Dean get elected? what's the answer? The Party is f*cked. Surrender.

[Turn over you white flags and swords to General Rove.]

Beyond that the series of speeches he has given in association with Move On over the last 2 years have been breathtaking. Truly inspirational.

[Breathtakingly comical. Those Gore speeches could be run over and over again in campaign commercials...for the Republican candidate.]

If he dumps the DLC and starts making the impassioned
speeches, southern preacher style, that I have seen him do when he is covered since then, I agree with you.

[LOL! That phony preacher routine is one of my favorite bits in Gore's comedy repertoire.]

I think he will actually not have to be drafted; he will pop up on the scene just when we think all is lost.

[Sort of like when Frodo Baggins threw the Ring into the fires of Mt. Doom when it looked like all was lost.]

Do we think it would be Gore vs. Clinton in the primaries?
That would be uncomfortable.

[But FUnnie. Very FUnnie.]

Yeah, he won't run. He said he won't run.
so leave him alone.. Of course he would be great, but SNL killed him. His manner is stilted, isn't that a stupid reason for not supporting someone. Welcome to Abercrombe and Fitch TRL Sound Byte American.

[Yeah. It was all the fault of his SNL skit that killed his political future. Nothing at all to do with ranting like a lunatic in public.]

Have you seen any of his speeches the last couple of years?
He comes off as very intelligent, of course--that hasn't changed. But he's also become something close to a firebrand. He shed all of his advisors and it's apparent that he went off somewhere by himself and thought about things long and hard. I think the fire in his oratory might surprise you.

[He's become something close to a lunatic. Actually I amend that. He has become a lunatic.]

His Bush-era speeches have been some of the best in Am. history
Impassioned, clear oratory for the ages.


[Oratory for the asylum.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-08-05 ("The Butterfly Effect of a Blow-Job")

I admit that I BURST out laughing when I read the title of this DUmmie THREAD, "The Butterfly Effect of a Blow-Job." Yes, in one concise and HILARIOUS sentence the DUmmies have summed up what they believe to be the cause of all their current woes. If only, IF ONLY Clinton hadn't accepted a Lewinsky from Monica then today we would be living in a liberal paradise under President Gore. But nooooooooo! Clinton, accepted Monica's generous offer, and as a result, we are now condemned to living under the EVIL Bush Regime. I first came across the explanation of the Butterfly Effect in the excellent hurricane book, "Isaac's Storm." According to the Butterfly Effect theory just a slight change in the air, such as a butterfly fluttering its wings in Africa can set up a chain of causes that could lead to a hurricane. See, the few molecules stirred up by the butterfly's wings stirs up a few more molecules which sets in motion a chain of events eventually leading to a hurricane that wouldn't have happened if the butterfly had not fluttered its wings at a certain moment. In this case, the Butterfly Effect in question was Monica's fluttering lips in the Oval Office that set the stage for the series of events leading to Liberal Paradise Lost. As usual, the fluttering DUmmie frustrations are in Butterfly Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that the a certain fluttering butterfly is a contituent of Hillary's, is in the [brackets]:

The Butterfly Effect of a Blow-Job.

[LOL! Thanx for the belly laugh, DUmmie. No need to explain further since I already know where you are coming from. However, for the less enlightened, please clarify what you mean by "The Butterfly Effect of a Blow-Job."]

It's time for a serious Come-To-Jesus Meeting here at the DemocraticUnderground.Com. It's high time that a lot of us (me included) face the cold hard fact that President Bill Clinton's shabby behavior with an intern while he was President of the United States resulted in the Democrats losing control of the U.S. Senate and in losing even a greater number of seats in the House of Representatives. Most of all, Clinton's misconduct cost Al Gore an even clearer-cut victory against then Texas Governor George W. Bush in 2000.

[Liberal Paradise Lost caused by a soon-to-be Jenny Craig spokesperson.]

The fact that our nation's right wing went into melt-down mode, into total hysteria in their utterly hypocritical and malicious campaign to wrongfully drive him from office through the impeachment process still does not change the simple stark truth that Bill Clinton, and Bill Clinton alone, allowed himself and the rest of us within the Democratic Party to be sidetracked from what we should have been doing into defending him.

[Speaking of going into melt-down mode and total hysteria...Have you been oberving DUmmieland since its inception?]

Bill Clinton should have put the good of the nation and the best interests of his Party first and should have had the grace to have resigned his office and thereby permitted his Vice President, Albert Gore, to step immediately into the Executive role in the White House. A President Gore, with Tipper at his side, would have had all the trappings of the Executive Branch at his disposal and would have carried the 2000 election in a landslide. Indeed, had Gore become President, I doubt that Governor Bush would have run in 2000 because Karl Rove would have known better than to challenge a popular sitting President.

[Just as laughable as your Butterfly Effect analogy is the idea that Bill Clinton would have put ANYTHING first ahead of his bloated ego.]

Al and Tipper Gore could have never been assailed for Clinton's tawdry conduct. It would have never stuck. Everyone knew that the Gores had a strong marriage, an enviable union, if there ever was one. And with out the Lewinsky stench hanging over the White House, Gore could have carried the day, perhaps in 50 states, with the nation prosperous and at peace in the world.

[You must have a butterfly fluttering around inside your head to think Al Gore would have carried all 50 states. As it was in REALITY, he couldn't even carry his home state of Tennessee.]

Instead, we had a stretched out, blood wrenching two year tug-of-war that exhausted all the political capital of the Democratic Party to defend Bill Clinton's right to be President. We never stopped to ask ourselves that old, but helpful question: Was that the hill that we all really wanted to die on? Well, we won the battle alright, but we sure as hell lost the war, didn't we?

[Yup! You sure did lose the war.]

We've lost, at minimum, two precious opportunities to nominate to the Supreme Court. We've lost millions of jobs to outsourcing. We've lost a $3 trillion Social Security surplus to a projected $10 trillion deficit. We've gone from being the champion of human rights in the world's collective eye to becoming military occupiers and the torturers of Abu Graib. We have fallen from the hope and promise of science and medicine to the backward darkness of back-wooded superstition and demagoguery. We have squandered the greatest economy in our nation's history and all the good that we could have done with it. We can't turn back time. It is what it is.

[Look at the bright side: Monica's contributions to the economy via her tacky handbags she pitches.]

But, fellow Democrats, don’t be down heartened. Don’t despair. We can still all crow alongside Bill Clinton that we did stop the impeachment and removal of a President from office. We did win that one, didn't we? But what a price we have all paid.

[Complete and permanent loss of power. But hey, Bill sure did have a good ol' time in the Oval Office.]

The butterfly effect of a blow-job.

[LOL! Congrats on the FUnniest DUmmie thread title I've seen yet! And now on to the flutterings of the other DUmmie Butterflies...]

Clinton should've resigned, and let Gore become President. It would've trumped the GOP's machinations, and we'd have a sane person in the Oval Office now.

[Al "HE BETRAYED US" Gore is a well-known font of sanity.]

LMAO! GREAT JOB! HANDS DOWN WINNER OF THE FUNNIEST THREAD OF THE DAY!!

[Of the day? Try FUnniest Thread title of the YEAR!!!]

I guess its just that I am so sensitive on the subject of that blowjob.. funny to say it that way huh? But I don't know, I appreciate humor just as well as the best of them, but it's so much harder these days...

[The Blowjob that Changed History aka Gone With The Wind.]

George Bush is the Clinton Legacy. That ought to get things
humming

[We already know what got Monica humming.]

Yep, it was the blow job, mea culpa we got what we deserved

[Karl Rove Mind Control.]

The amount of PR effort and energy put into defending Clinton for impeachment, should have easily been able to get us national healthcare if we hadn't found it necessary to defend him

[Um...Hate to enlighten you on the FACTS but the Hillary Healthcare Plan bombed several years before the Butterfly Effect even started.]

Clinton handed the fundies and the repugs the moral stick they have been using for years to beat us up with. He knew he was being investigated, he knew his every movement was under the microscope, he and Hillary both knew of the "vast right wing conspiracy" out to destroy him and prove he was amoral. And, as he admitted in his book and at just about every public appearance he has made since writing the book, he got a blow job in the oval office "because he could". WTF? Clinton is reponsible for what we have been dealing with for the last 5 years, he gave the fundies, neo-cons the weapon, he made the party impotent.

[I see the irony here. Made impotent by a BJ.]

In theory that is a wonderful concept, but as we all know from practical experience and from recent history, that doesn't work. The man lied. Not only that, the man knew all along that he was under scrutiny and that they had been focusing on his indiscretions for years. Did you read his book? He said he became involved with that intern and got the blow job in the oval office because he could. That was his damned explanation. "Because I could." Christ, he knew he was being watched, he knew the vast right wing was out to smear him and he got a blow job because he could? How fucking stupid is that. He walked into the ambush. Thank God he really wasn't one of our military leaders, can you imagine the condition his forces would be in if they followed him into the enemy's ambush (that he knew about)? But wait, his troops (democratic candidates) did follow him and did lose offices and elections left and right, they were slaghtered. If that was not the most moronic, thick headed, egotistical blunder of his life, I don't know what is. And because of that act of gratification, (his not hers) the repugs were able to win elections after elections and seize the power they now wield over us, to the detriment of our nation.

[But...but according to dozens of liberal legal "experts," perjury is NOT an impeachable offense (unless committed by a Republican).]

Bill Clinton just had to give in to those luscious cherry lips.

[Sounds like a great pitch for a porno flick.]

Amazing, sad, but true. No BJ; no Junior.
Possibly no 9/11.

[So according to your theory, no Monica BJ, then no world terrorism. WOW! Talk about a Butterfly Effect!]

Rape victims are the true culprits !

[Juanita Broaddrick?]

Clinton commit a selfless act for the good of the country? No way.

[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]

It wasn't the blow job but the pathetic attempt to cover it up.


["I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-07-05 ("Beware: The Cult of Hillary")

I LOVE to watch the DUmmies obsessively worrying about Hillary's IMPENDING and INEVITABLE presidential nomination in 2008. Why? Because there is NOTHING they can do to stop her nomination. If you think the DUmmies were frustrated in the past over the way fate has dealt them some really bad hands, it is nothing compared to how BERSERK they will go in 2008 because they know she is also a SURE LOSER in the general election. So complain all you want about Hillary, DUmmies. With a little help from Karl, she WILL be nominated which is great since it will be incredibly FUN to watch your reactions. We can already get a sneak preview of how the DUmmies will react by viewing this THREAD titled, "Beware: The Cult of Hillary." So let us watch how desperately FUnnie the DUmmies are as they try to deny the inevitable in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, looking forward to Hillary's presidential nomination, is in the [brackets]:

Beware: The Cult of Hillary

[I worship the One True Hillary.]

No Republican bashing today. Why? Because it's not required. The Republican revolution has is finally petering out, dying a death of a thousand self-inflicted cuts. I said several years ago that the best way to get rid of neo-conservatives is to give them everything they said they wanted. They got pretty much all of what they said they wanted – tax cuts for the rich, welfare cuts for the poor, less environmental restrictions on businesses, free trade, conservative courts, faith-based politics, faith-based education. It began in 1994 with Newt and will come to a grinding stop in November 2006.

[You forgot to mention placing arsenic in the drinking water and starving the cheeeeeeldrun. We got that too.]

That's the good news.

[Yeah. I always thought that destroying the environment was a kewl thing.]

The bad news comes two years later, in November 2008. While Democrats will regain some of their lost power in '06, (with the growing possibility they will even regain at lease one house of Congress,) the party is risking the big prize, the White House in '08.

[The bad news always seems to come to DUmmies in November.]

That risk can be summed up in two words: Hillary Clinton. If Democrats give Hillary the nod in '08 they will lose the White House again -- and this time not by the narrowest of margins, but in a landslide. Why?

[Because that is what Karl Rove is planning.]

Because Hillary is "one of them." There come along from time to time unique personalities that, flawed as they are, attract followers like flies to dung. The likes of Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Rev. Moon, Tom DeLay, George W. Bush. People like them, follow them down the strangest of paths and trust them with their most precious possessions.

[As a mind numbed robot Dittohead, I trust Rush with my precious set of Dollar Store tacky candles.]

This leaves the rest of us watching in disbelief, scratching our heads wondering if maybe we're missing something. How can otherwise functioning, rational, law-abiding folk be attracted to such obvious liars, phonies and connivers? But they are. Always have been and it will always be so. It's truly one of life's great mysteries.

[Did you trust BBV Bev with your funds like the REST of the DUmmies? That left the rest of us watching in disbelief, scratching our heads wondering if there was something missing in DUmmie skulls that let them get scammed by such an obvious con artist.]

Hillary Clinton is precisely such a person. There's something about the woman that dazzles some people.

[Maybe it is her shapely legs that dazzles them.]

I first saw it three years ago while attending meetings with Democrat strategists in Washington. A cell phone would ring. "Mumble, mumble... okay." Click. "I have to go," the recipient would say, adding importantly, "I have to meet with Hillary." A knowing hush would fall over the room. Glances exchanged. Heads nodded. A call had come from on high. Power had touched all in the room. It was as if the image of the Virgin Mary had appeared on that fellow's toasted cheese sandwich.

[I'm thinking of selling on eBay my image of Hillary on a toasted cheese sandwich. The rest of your "Cult of Hillary article can be found outside of DUmmieland HERE. And now on to the other DUmmie comments on the subject of the Dear Beloved Hillary.]

I will NOT vote for her under ANY circumstances
I hope they don't do it, I'll go with someone else, not her.

[I'm swithing to Democrat (temporarily) just so I can vote for Hillary in the primaries. It is the least I could do for Our Beloved Leader Hillary.]

Perhaps I could leave the country for four years.

[Dear Beloved Leader of North Korea is awaiting you.]

I agree that she is pretty phoney - but hey, she's a politician. What can you expect? Bill was pretty phoney too, but he knew how to pull it off.

[And this DUmmie wins a Kewpie Doll for having a brief moment of mental clarity!]

I ABSOLUTELY can't stand her!!! I liked her husband, but I'm too afraid she wouldn't just let him run everything.

[I wouldn't say that. I'm sure Hill will let Bill run the doghouse.]

I'm glad I have a couple more years to tear myself apart worrying about this.

[Much to our entertainment pleasure.]

it won't matter, she won't win
it's a mathematical impossibility... and not like the one that "won" * the presidency.

[It's a mathematical impossibility that Hillary can win the general election. But winning the nomination is a PROBABILITY.]

Yes, it would be nice to have a female or a non-Christian white candidate, but we may have to look at someone who is just as articulate and qualified; who doesn't polarize. No matter how much Gingrich and Lott and their ilk like her, she is despised by the their inarticulate and lemming voters. She is a polarizer and they are probably setting her up just as they set up a rush of approval for Kerry out of their fear of Dean. They know who they can knock down. They know what arsenal of attack they have in their vault. She may deserve the highest office based on intelligence, knowledge, dedication, and hard work, but we will always have the 90's to live and relive over and over again with the Hannity's , Limbaughs, Robertsons, Falwells, and their listeners. And she doesn't have all the Dems with her as of today because of the mystery of her conversions.

[Ah! The mystery of her conversions. I think you can find out about this in the Sacred Book of Hillary in Triangulations 3:11.]

She Is An Iraq War Sympathizer And Will Not Get My Vote
Under any circumstances.

[What if Hillary promises to allow you to grovel in Her presence?]

I think the truth is that,....most EVERYONE is still scared of,...having a female CIC. We have yet to mature sufficiently to realize just how effective and powerful a woman would be as the POTUS.

[We already have one. Geena Davis.]

GAWD. I. AM. SO. SICK. of the political dysfunction in this country. If I had the power to change anything in this world, it would be the game of politics. Anyone who failed to fulfill the highest commitment to honesty and integrity and service would be discharged, AT WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

[Anyone who fails to follow the strict Hard Left Line would be discharged.]

I don't want to be a member of a global fascist-like, corporacrat influence on this world filled with people,...with people JUST LIKE ME.
and,...with that,...I am emotional,...and tired,...and need to sleep away the images of horrors that have been committed in my name,...

[and,...with that,...I am emotional...and tired,...and need to sleep off those heavy duty meds,...]

I think when she was talking with someone like Al Franken on a talk show recently she said she probably wouldn't run as there might be someone who might be more "mainstream" that should run instead or something to that effect, but it sounds like she aims to be an instrumental part of who gets elected in 2008. I don't think she's probably enough to head the ticket, but if you get someone like Clark heading up the ticket, she might be someone good to counterbalance it in the VP slot.

[BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! And you actually BELIEVE Hillary when she says that she probably won't run for president? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!]

And if we can win back the House especially next year and impeach and prison the whole Bush gang and have a president Pelosi!!!



[And...and IF the Tooth Fairy floats down from the clouds and rules the World for all Eternity!!!]

She's not even running for President

[Keep repeating that mantra over and over again and you might even come to believe it someday.]

It is the Cult of the Clintons and it's time a lot of us get into some serious deprogramming.


[DUmmies certainly do need some serious deprogramming.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-06-05 ("I'm now officially MIHOP on 9/11")

Try as Skinner might, there is no way he can shield the overall LOONINESS of DUmmieland from the outside world. Yes, he tries by forbidding 9-11 threads from being posted in the DUmmie GREATEST section but that sure doesn't prevent us from seeing the asylum that is DUmmieland. And the topic about which the DUmmies are nuttiest about are bizarre 9-11 theories. Of course, in the world of DUmmieland the terrorists are NEVER at fault. No. It is the EVIL Bush Regime that Made It Happen On Purpose (MIHOP). A "moderate" in DUmmieland would be those few who think that Bush merely Let It Happen On Purpose (LIHOP). Of course, the MIHOPs vastly outnumber the LIHOPs over there. Therefore it is with much interest to watch the loons posting away on this DUmmie THREAD titled, "I'm now officially MIHOP on 9/11." So let us now sit back and watch the DUmmies proudly proclaim their MIHOPedness in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, viewing the proceedings from the local IHOP is in the [brackets]:

I'm now officially MIHOP on 9/11

[Whew! You had me worried there for a moment, DUmmie berni_mccoy. I thought you were going to declare yourself just a lousy LIHOP.]

I've watched the new movie, Loose Change. While I don't subscribe to all the 'theories' the movie presents, there is more than enough evidence to suggest a complete cover up by the government.

[Methinks you watched the movie "Screw Loose."]

The video evidence alone is enough to raise questions that have never been answered.

[If it's on video, then it MUST be true. Just ask Michael Moore.]

One thing that I find shocking are the many scientists, eye-witness accounts and video evidence refuting that the collapse of the buildings was caused by fire, but that their points were never included or considered in the government's investigation.

[If you want to count one nutcase professor and Alternate Reality DUmmies as "many" then be my guest.]

And don't give me any B.S. about planes crashing into the building at 500 MPH... if that's what took the buildings down, then explain how WTC 7 imploded.

[And don't give me any B.S. about the planes crashing into the buildings on video. Mere CGI effects.]

I suggest everyone here see the movie. You can download the entire movie for free.

It's amateurish, and some theories I just don't by, but as I said, there is too much evidence and too many unanswered questions for me to be satisfied with the 'official' explanation.

[Yes. Better an amateurish flick than the eyewitness accounts of THOUSANDS of people plus hours of actual video footage. Now let us fly over Never Never Land and see the other wacko DUmmie postings.]

It's a small step from the lack of Katrina response to the attacking of one of our own cities to allow them to carry out their plans of domination of the Middle East.

[Nice theory but it is blown out of the water by the "minor" fact that Katrina happened four years AFTER 9-11.]

Welcome to my reality Berni! I have probably seen every documentary on 9/11, including Loose Change, and each makes their valid points. I didn't need to see the videos as I have done quite a lot of reading on this, but these videos affirm what I do believe.

[Welcome to my Alternate Reality, Berni!]

I love the smell of tin foil in the afternoon....

[In DUmmieland you get a regular OD of tin foil odors.]

the ability of planes to intiate a series of events that weakened the structural integrity of the twin towers and caused them to collapse of their own weight is well established.

[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]

It is insulting to expect you can 'persuade' people through peer pressure (i.e., "if you don't believe us, you love Bush") and 'cliff notes"-style argument. If you want to persuade people with a sincere desire for civil discussion in mind, you would anticipate constructive criticism. I have NOT seen any sign that the 'controlled demolition' people are willing to do that.

[And this DUmmie wins a Kewpie Doll for having a very brief moment of mental clarity!]

If you haven't watched the video, you have no place to argue it's evidence

[The earth is flat. If you haven't watched the video then you have no place to argue it's evidence.]

No one really believes the stupid official myth of 9/11

[With the exception of the severely sane.]

They just can't face the practical implications of the truth.
That elements of our own government,military and private sector would cold-bloodedly murder American citizens on our own soil, perpetrate a massive media hoax using their controlled broadcast networks and supine print media; manufacture a false-flag "terrorist attack" as pretext to launch aggressive wars aborad, stip us of our basic rights and civil liberties, and impose a domestic police state on us ... in order to "protect" us.

[Thus spaketh another Rubber Room DUmmie.]

A camera on a tripod many blocks from the WTC shook 9-seconds before the South Tower started to collapse

[Why didn't you say so before? That pretty much convinces me now that the official theory is wrong and the DUmmie conspiracy theories are right. A camera on a tripod shaking is rock solid proof that the planes did not bring down the WTC Towers.]

I only caught the first few minutes of the video (slow connection), but it shows the first crash, and it's clear that if the plane was real, its impact was fully absorbed by the steel structure, just as it was designed to be.

[That's a big IF there since we all know the planes weren't real.]

Regarding the top sections, which fell down through the cores instead of rotating off, I believe that the scientific principle in question here is not conservation of momentum, but its cousin, conservation of angular momentum, which (simplifying) says that once a rigid body begins rotating around an axis under the influence of a constant force, like gravity, it will maintain that rotation unless some additional force (like dynamite) interferes with it.

[Is that you, Professor Irwin Corey?]

The demolition stuff sounded like late-night radio paranoia.
Then I realized that not only had the Trade Center been demolished, but in a completely obvious and shameless way, and that we'd been lied to by FEMA, NOVA, MIT, the NIST, the FDNY, National Geographic, Rudy Giuliani, Leslie Robertson, and on and on.



[You were right in the first place. It does sound like late-night radio paranoia. Please forward this material to Phil Hendrie.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-06-05 (DUmmies Nervous Over COLLAPSING DeLay Case)

Pity the poor DUmmies. They constantly get their hopes UP only to have them CONSISTENTLY dashed on the cold rocks of reality. Remember the DUmmie jubilation of the DUmmies when it appeared that John Kerry won a LANDSLIDE VICTORY in the exit polls? Gone. Or their antication of Kerry being inaugurated on Jan. 20 due to the overturning of the Ohio election results? Gone. And how the Jeff Gannon case was going to bring the downfall of the entire Bush Regime? Gone. The list goes on and on. The Day When Everything Finally Changed? Forgotten. The NEXT Day When Everything Finally Changed on Sept. 24? Fortunately for Pied Piper Pitt that embarrassing failure was never even noticed in the first place since it was completely buried under Hurricane Rita coverage. But ah! Fitzmas was coming early at the end of October when Karl Rove would surely be indicted in Plamegate, a crime that didn't even exist in the first place. So Fitzmas came and went with nary a stir...and Rove nowhere near a stir. But wait! The DUmmies still held out hope for the trumped up charges against Tom DeLay. Well, we already have a clear idea where the trumped up money laundering charge is going to go by observing what happened to the trumped up conspiracy charge. Tossed out by the judge yesterday. And if this case ever goes to trial it will quickly be dismissed because it is equally as trumped up as the phony case against Kay Bailey Hutchinson that was tossed out of court the moment it entered those chambers. The DUmmies should have had a heads up on where the phony DeLay case was going by noting the miserable track record of partisan Democrat prosecutor Ronnie Earle who bombed bigtime in trying get rid of Hutchinson and is now desperatelytrying to remove DeLay. Yes, this whole case had ONE purpose only. Bring indictments against Tom DeLay for the SOLE PURPOSE of removing him from the Majority Leader post in Congress. And now that Earle's phony case is collapsing before us, the DUmmies are nervous, very nervous as you can see in this THREAD titled, "Judge dismisses one felony indictment but upholds another (Delay)" as well as this THREAD titled, "FRESH OFF THE WIRE: One charge against Delay dropped..." Yes the DUmmie Coyote is ONCE AGAIN beginning to breath in the acidic Road Runner dust while another ACME Co. package in the form of the phony Ronnie Earle indictments explodes in his face. BEEP! BEEP! As usual, the dashed DUmmies hopes are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that the Road Runner bears a vague appearance to Tom DeLay, is in the [brackets]:

FRESH OFF THE WIRE: One charge against Delay dropped...

[Uh-Oh! It looks like Lucy is pulling the football away AGAIN from an anxious DUmmie foot.]

Judge tosses conspiracy charges against ex-House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, but allows money-laundering charges, according to AP.

[And with the DUmmmie (and Ronnie Earle) track record, we all know where the rest of the case is heading.]

Still good enough for me! ....

[Were you at John Kerry's inauguration on Jan. 20?]

So... he laundered the money but there wasn't a conspiracy?

[Questions like that will get you tombstoned my little DUmmie.]

do you think all charges should now be dropped?

[If the past is any guide, what do you think?]

I say we throw completely unrelated charges on
...just for fun because we know he derserves them.

[Is that you, Ronnie Earle?]

the pig deserves a lot worse than anything we can throw at him

[So lets just make up charges!]

Isn't that kind of hard to do?
Don't you need, like, accomplices at the bank or at least someone to help feed quarters into the machines?

[Yes. You are correct. It is kind of hard to launder money without a conspiracy. And your Kewpie Doll insight will earn you a quick tombstoning.]

All of us would have loved to keep that charge in there, and sure we're happy they didn't drop everything, but I for one, hoped that NOTHING would have been dropped.

[Don't worry. The remainder of Earle's case is as solid as the one he had against Kay Bailey Hutchinson. Hee! Hee! And now on to the other DUmmie thread...]

Judge dismisses one felony indictment but upholds another (Delay)

[Give him time...]

Is the case falling apart?

[And this DUmmie wins a Kewpie Doll for having a very brief moment of mental clarity!]

As long as every week there is a new indictment of a republican until 2008, the R's will spend more time defending themselves that wrecking the country. That's over 156 indictments I am still waiting on.

[Just toss phony charges against the wall and HOPE something sticks.]

The conspiracy charge would have implicated the national republican party looks to me like they are sacrificing Delay to save the party now.

[Or maybe, just maybe, there was NO conspiracy.]

Seems like a conspiracy to me. He couldn't launder the money by himself.

[BINGO! And since the conspiracy charges have been tossed, so goes the money laundering charges.]

The CONSPIRACY CHARGE WAS SUPERFLUOUS!!!

[As is the rest of the case.]

The money-laundering charge also contains elements of the.... ...earlier conspiracy charge.

[Which was dismissed.]

The conspiracy charge was unnecessary
after the money laundering charge was made, since it's an even more serious crime. So now they're dropping it because they are going with the "upgraded" (so to speak) charge.

[The beads of sweat drenching your body are duly noted.]

DeLay's lawyer gets his mantra in also!

[Tom DeLay is allowed to have a lawyer? OUTRAGEOUS!!!]

I got a rope!

[To place around your neck when ALL the charges are dumped.]

Bye Bye Majority Leader!!! and hello jail time!!!
Delay is going to jail!!!

[Do not go to court. Go straight to jail!!!]

This really is the funniest FR thread I have ever had the bad misfortune of reading. Pardon me while I go take a long steaming hot shower.

[To wash the nervous beads of sweat off your body.]

And Lucy yanks the football away from Charlie Brown!!!



[You must be a regular reader of the DUmmie FUnnies to know about that constant theme and imagery of frustrated DUmmies!]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-05-05 ("I cried my way into work today")

Charles Henrickson has his work cut out for him with this edition of the DUmmie FUnnies. For you folks who are reading this DUmmie FUnnies edition only on the BlogSpot site, Charles Henrickson, a regular DUFU poster over at the Free Republic, is a multi-lingual (living and dead languages) Biblical scholar who, in slightly different circumstances could easily have been a Broadway song lyricist with his knack for tunesmithing. Many of his Free Republic comments on the DUFUs contain great song parodies. With this edition of the DUmmie FUnnies, his work (as well as Doug From Upland, another song parodyist) is cut out for him as we shall see in this sob story THREAD titled, "I cried my way into work today." The sob sister author is one DUmmie BigBearJohn sobbing over the Liberal Could Have Been in the form of a Donovan tune. But wait, there's MORE! < /Ron Popeil> Other DUmmies have also chimed in with their favorite wistful songs thus giving the EVIL Republican song parodyists plenty of great material to work with. As usual the songs of the DUmmies sung into the wind are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, Singing in the Rain, is in the [brackets]:

I cried my way into work today.

[SNIFF! Would you like to borrow a hankie, DUmmie BigBearJohn?]

I have been so swallowed up by the sins of this evil administration for the last 5 years, little did I realize that everything that was ever important to me was dying... I was drowning in a sea of bitterness, sarcasm, and cynicism surrounding me. Consumed with anger by everything happening in this nation, I had completely lost contact with who I am spiritually and find myself becoming jaded.

[Paradise Lost...November 2000. Never to return. BWAAAAAAAA!!!]

Last week I ordered an import CD of the music of "Donovan" and today I played it in my car for the first time in 30 years on way to work. It warmed my heart to hear his soothing voice but then, as he began the first refrain of "Catch the Wind" -- I completely lost it. His words reminded me of time of purity in my life. I started blubbering like an old fool... all the way from the bottom of my stomach... the tears kept coming and I couldn't stop them. It was as if God had just touched my shoulder to remind me of who I am and how far I had strayed from my original dreams.

[It was as if God had just touched your shoulder to remind you of what a Hippie you still are and how far you strayed from sanity.]

“In the chilly hours and minutes,
Of uncertainty, I want to be,
In the warm hold of your loving mind.

To feel you all around me,
And to take your hand, along the sand,
Ah, but I may as well try and catch the wind.

When sundown pales the sky,
I wanna hide a while, behind your smile,
And everywhere I'd look, your eyes I'd find.

For me to love you now,
Would be the sweetest thing, 'twould make me sing,
Ah, but I may as well, try and catch the wind.

When rain has hung the leaves with tears,
I want you near, to kill my fears
To help me to leave all my blues behind.

For standin' in your heart,
Is where I want to be, and I long to be,
Ah, but I may as well, try and catch the wind.”

[Mr. Henrickson (and Doug From Upland): Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to write a parody song based on DUmmie BigBearJohn's obsession with his faded dream of the Age of Aquarius long gone. Should you or any of your Mission Impossible Team be caught or captured, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your Birkenstock sandals.]

In the movie "Brother Sun, Sister Moon" -- The film culminates, visually and thematically, with St. Francis's audience with Pope Innocent III in Rome. Barefooted and dressed in rags, St. Francis enter a scene of impossible majesty and splendor, the papal court arrayed on either side of the massive hall in sumptuous colored garments, the mile-high ceiling sparkling with jewels set in gold. In the film's most stunning moment we see lavishly tiled steps, the perspective flattened to create the effect of an intricately tiled wall, down which the pope descends, clad in white, as if from heaven. "Is it not possible, Holy Father, to live according to the teachings of our Lord? Or have we sinned through presumption? If that be the case, then we would like your Holiness to tell us of our errors." The pope replies: "My dearest son, errors will be forgiven. In our obsession with original sin we too often forget original innocence. Don't let that happen to you. … We are encrusted with riches and power. You in your poverty put us to shame." With tears in his eyes, the Pope kneels down and kisses the feet of St. Francis.

[DUmmies get all teary eyed over religion...until they bash it.]

I will NEVER allow this world to bring me back to that state of darkness. Love IS the answer.

[DUmmie BigBearJohn: A St. Francis of Assisi wannabee.]

Lyrics from "Brother Sun, Sister Moon"
by Donovan

[Good. More parody material.]

If you want your dream to be
Build it slow and surely.
Small beginnings, greater ends.
Heartfelt work grows purely.

"If you want to live life free,
Take your time, go slowly.
Do few things, but do them well.
Simple joys are holy.

Day by day, stone by stone,
Build your secret slowly.
Day by day, you'll grow, too,
You'll know heaven's glory."

Focus on the light; the only power evil has is
that which it steals from Goodness.

[Wouldn't that be "Focus on the right? And now more tunes from other DUmmie Hippies.]

I sometimes play Riki Tiki Tavi when I feel depressed and helpless.

[Me? I just play chopsticks on the piano when I'm blue.]

It is very difficult for people of our country to love other people on this earth. Even though it is the Christian thing to do. Even though the great majority of their ancestors came from somewhere else on this earth.

[That's because people here are uniquely EVIL.]

That happened to me right after the 'election' of 2004
I was just driving along, minding my own business, when all of a sudden the realization of what this meant came shattering down on me. The first time in my life I've truly felt completely without hope. Without a future for my kids. Without the future of the human race. I'm back in denial mode now, so I feel much better....

[And being in the denial mode makes you feel much better knowing that Al Gore is President in the Alternate Universe.]

When you learn about Saint Francis, you come to realize what a beautiful human being he was. A truely spiritual person.....a hero of his time, and it would be so good if he were a hero of our present time as well.

[And if St. Francis were to come back, most DUmmies would denounce him as a religious zealot.]

I know exactly how you feel and I have been so full of despair these past 5 years. If you can get back to joy, that is wonderful. I have not found a way to do that, and our future seems so hopeless to me.

[Meds would help.]

Thanks for sharing. It comes at a time
when I think many of us are going through what you are feeling and need a little help getting back into who we really are, away from all the evil swirling around us. It becomes too much, sometimes and can eat away at one's soul.

[Thanx for sharing your Hippie Obsession with the LOST Age of Aquarius.]

In the 70's we all imagined the 21st century to be a bright, shining, hopeful place. It seemed like humanistic values, higher ideals, and a general tide towards goodness would emerge.

[A bright, shining, hopeful place PURGED of all conservatives.]

Somethings happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear...

[Something is happening here...Unfavorable election results.]

Corruption around us is wearying. It exhausts the soul. But it can't break our soul... if we don't let it. You are reaching out for the things that comfort you and give you peace. Whether it's your faith, your spirituality, your family, friends, music, nature, the good things are around you.

[Evil corrupt Republicans. Unlike the moral purity of the Democrats.]

We all need a break from this nightmare.

[Enter the Alternate Reality Zone where John Kerry was inaugurated on Jan. 20.]

The holidays/ holy-days are here, why not reach out to someone or something less fortunate? Adopt a kitten or pup. Bring food for an elderly person. Help feed a family in need? Volunteer your time and energy?

[I adopted a cockroach. Named it Ralph. We have already bonded. Waaaaah!]

Giving to others is a great way to reaffirm our dreams and ideals. It strikes a blow against materialism and corruption.
It nourishes the soul.

[And wards off EVIL Republicans.]

Peace brother-

[Groovy man!]

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

[I sort of prefer the "Billy Jack" theme song.]

Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the flowers gone?
Girls have picked them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all the young girls gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the young girls gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the young girls gone?
Taken husbands every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all the young men gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the young men gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the young men gone?
Gone for soldiers every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all the soldiers gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the soldiers gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the soldiers gone?
Gone to graveyards every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all the graveyards gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the graveyards gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the graveyards gone?
Covered with flowers every one
When will we ever learn?
When will we ever learn?

[Love power. I'm talking about love power.
The power of a sweet flower is gonna rule the earth.
And there'll be a great rebirth.

Love is a flower that is fine.
When I'm walkin' with my darlin' and we're holding hands,
and life is fine, 'cause she understands.
'A walking down the sunny street
givin' pretty flowers to the people that we meet.

And I give a flower to the big fat cop,
he takes his club and he beats me up.
I give a flower to the garbage man,
he stuffs my girl in the garbage can.
And I give it to the landlord, when the rent comes 'round.
He throws it in the toilet and he flush it down.
It goes into the sewer with the yuck running through her,
And it runs into the river that we drink.
Hey world, you stink!

Ah, man it's later than you think
Girl you got just one more chance.
Come on baby, while I dance.

Love, love power.
I'm talking 'bout love power
The power of a little flower.
You don't think 'bout no little flowers,
Oh no, all you think about is guns.
If everybody in the world today had a flower instead of a gun,
there would be no wars. There would be one big smell-in.
Just the flowers. Hey, man, a flower.
A flower. What you do to my flower, man?
You hurt it, like everything else.
Everything else. Flowers.]

I am with you!
We are all here together. We all share the same disconnect between what is and what could have been. But it is not too late. As long as you can breathe you can dream and as along as you can dream you have the potential to make your dreams real.

- another child of the '60s

[Another child, period.]

Never give up. My boss would like me to get a haircut. All my heroes were/are radicals, all with long hair. I've ALWAYS had long hair growing up and let it get back there on occasion. Kids are growing their hair longer these days, it seems. There's hope.

[You're basing your hope on THAT? Cueball crewcuts were in until recently and now if some kid grows a half inch of hair you believe it will lead to Hippie Paradise Restored? Welcome to the Alternate Reality!][

I'm a kindred spirit.... I know how you feel. I've had these moments of pain and release myself over the past 5 years. How I long for tears of joy instead of sorrow and pain over what's happened to us. We're all in this together, and together we'll once again feel joy and bliss. When the yoke of this present govenment finally is lifted from our necks, I'll remember those whom I met, and felt like I do, the good folks at DU.




[Once the yoke of oppression by the EVIL Bush Regime is lifted, you can crawl out of your dark basement and back into the LIGHT again. It will be the DAWNING OF THE AGE OF AQUARIUS!!!]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-05-05 ("Open Letter to Howard Dean, Re: 'Election Fraud'")

One of the most entertaining aspects about owning a DUmmie Ant Farm is watching how visibly upset the little critters get whenever they get all worked up over "election fraud." They just can't over it. The topic just drives them absolutely NUTS every time they think about it. And now the entertainment value of their frustration has been upped a few notches by this hilarious THREAD titled, "Open Letter to Howard Dean, Re: 'Election Fraud.'" Yes, the nuts are faxing the loony screamer on the topic of "election fraud" and the results are LOTS of laughs. One of the entertaining aspects of this thread is the author, DUmmie reprehensor actually identifies her real name (before denying it), thus allowing me to Google her and get additional laughs from the results which clearly show she is an OBSESSED nut job. So sit back and enjoy the continuing comedy show of DUmmie obsession over "election fraud" in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, lighting a candle for Landslide Lyndon who actually DID commit such fraud, is in the [brackets]:

Open Letter to Howard Dean, Re: "Election Fraud"

[Stand by for LAUGHS!!!]

FAXED TO DNC HQ: (202) 863-8174

Dear Chairman Dean and the DNC,

Got your newsletter: "Democrats will take back the House and the Senate in 2006. Send money."

[The Democrats are just $10 away from taking back the House and the Senate in 2006.]

I'd love to help out, but I can't bear to witness more pure hearts breaking because of election fraud. Apparently the DNC refuses to take it seriously, so here's what I'm going to do - because for me, it's dead serious.

[ALL your Diebolds belong to us.]

1.VOTING RIGHTS HERO #1

I'm going to $upport Bob Fitrakis for Ohio Governor, because Bob's going to talk about election fraud every chance he gets.
He is the incredible attorney/journalist/activist who led the citizen investigation of the Ohio Vote Fraud. Author of
"How George W. Bush Stole the 2004 Election." and editor of the Columbus FreePress.
BTW, (no surprise to anybody) Fitrakis is a Green. http://www.bobforohio.com /

[I too am going to support Bob Fitrakis for Ohio Governor since this obsessed Green nutjob is sure to drain votes away for the Democrat candidate in the general election.]

2.VOTING RIGHTS HERO #2

I'm going to send $ to John Bonifaz, who's running for SOS in Massachusetts. I really believe he should be President - ASAP.

http://www.johnbonifaz.com / This is the guy who created AfterDowningStreet.org and the National Voting Rights Institute, who wrote "Warrior-King: The Case for Impeaching George W Bush" and will institute the Voter Bill of Rights,

[I also support John Bonifax for SOS...of the Rubber Room.]

3.POTENTIAL HEROES - we ALL win!

I'm going to ask all my vote-loving pals to sign the petition supporting the Rush-Holt bill, immediately.
http://www.rushholt.com/petition.html Now there's legislation that should have passed YESTERDAY.

[Any relation to the Norwood-Dingell bill?]

4. OBAMA STEPS UP!

Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) has introduced a bill, S. 1975, The Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act of 2005. I'm calling Senator Boxer to stand with him. This could put lots of Repug thugs on notice for the 2006 election.
www.congress.org

[OBAMA STEPS UP...and strikes out.]

Chairman Dean, how are YOU going to lead?

[With a loud "YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH" and a skip-a-dee-doo-dah in my dance step.]

I don't want to read any DNC decrees. There's a war being waged by the Republican touchscreen companies to eat up our Democracy. THIS IS AN EMERGENCY. I know you're aware of this.

[Please, Mr Dean! ENABLE MY OBSESSION!!!]

I saw you Dr. Dean, you sat there with Bev Harris, and she showed you how easy it was to hack the vote. "Whoa!" you said. I know you have Mark Crispin Miller's excellent "Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election & Why They'll Steal the Next One Too." AND I know Rev. Jesse Jackson put you with Bob Fitrakis to hear about the Ohio Fraud.

[I saw you Dr. Drean, you sat there with Bev Harris, and she showed you how easy it was to pick your pocket.]

Where'd you go, Howard??
You know we've already lost Ohio to Diebold Republicans?
Doesn't Ohio figure in your master plan to take back the White House?
What about Florida? No? Don't need that state either?
I'm sure you know that North Carolina just caved and certified Diebold, didn't you?
OOPS!

[What about pregnant chads, Howard???
What about Nachos? No? Don't have the munchies either?
I sure you know that I just spilled the spaghetti sauce, don't you?
OOPS!
Do you believe in life after birth? Is Up the opposite of Down? Can I just walk out into the street and scream in frustration? That okay with you, too?]

Not a penny, not one phone call, not one online electron will I give to the Democratic Party until you seriously address the fraudulent election process that caused us to lose the last election.

[Not One Damn Dime Day. Been there. Done that. Flopped.]

Get the DNC on board, get some guts and get it done.

[Obey MEEEEEEEEEE!]

Onward, as sincere as they come,

[Sincere, yes, but definitely FUnnie. Yes, very FUnnie!!!]

Sheri Leigh Myers
Election Reform Activist
Los Angeles

[Since this DUmmie actually gave out her real name (before bizarrely denying it later in this thread), I was able to Google her and gets lots of additional laughs from reading the results of her obsession.]

p.s. And just to show how sincere I am, I'm asking 1000 of my vote-loving web friends to substitute their names and fax this letter to you at the DNC, (202) 863-8174, give $$ to Fitrakis and Bonifaz and ask all their friends to do the same.

[Don't worry, Sheri (or whoever you later claim to be or not be). It won't be hard to get a whole herd of your fellow DUmmies to share in your obsession. Hey, when you have MIHOP and LIHOP nutcases digging around energetically in the DUmmie Ant Farm, finding "election fraud" yo-yos is a piece of cake. And now Club DUmmie will provide more comedy entertainment from Sheri's fellow whackjobs...]

if we ALL signed YOUR letter...as a petition...and YOU forard it. I currently have a non-working printer. And no personal fax machine. I would be glad however to sign on to your letter...as a petititon... directly. In one or two days on DU, we could have a large list of sign-ups for your letter.

[You do ALL the work, Sheri. Plus I'm to cheap to send a FAX.]

I can't thank you enough for posting this
I have been giving to the DNC with voter fraud on the forefront of my mind. I have no confidence in the system. I would gladly sign a petition....

[...if YOU pay for the FAX.]

the re pub's are laughing at us, they know how timid the Dem's are over controversy.

[We ARE laughing at you but it is because we know how FUnnie you are over this "election fraud" obsession.]

FITRAKIS IS RUNNING AS A *GREEN* , according to his website. ...and he is bashing the Democratic Party.

[Sounds good to me.]

Better America=When dems are in power,Worse America=When reps are in power

[Is that you, Katy Couric?]

There is ONE cosponsor on Obama's bill: John Kerry
However, Ms. Myers does not see fit to give any credit there.

[Okay, I'll give John Kerry credit for being as deluded as Obama.]

You got it, Sheri. Well done! When you're done, mail him the thread.

[And don't forget to send him the DUmmie FUnnies edition of this thread.]

That's right! Scream your head off about this!
Keep doing it until they listen!

[Keep doing it until the laughter subsides.]

Excellent, we must keep the election fraud issue alive!

[The obsession must NEVER DIE!!!]

Paper ballots NOW! Hand counts NOW!!!

[Pregnant chads NOW!!!]

Howard Dean was present for the BBV Demo of how a monkey was
trained in 10 minutes to hack the tabulator count.




[Howard Dean was present for the DNC Demo of how a monkey was trained in 10 minutes to vote for the Democrats twice.]

A couple things...

1. I'm not Sheri.

[ 2. You're not sane. Even DUmmie reprehensor is too embarrassed to admit she is Sheri Leigh Myers.]

Dean is the #1 Dem leader, therefore it is HIS responsibility to be fighting election fraud every single day. He needs to address it every time he speaks in public.

[Dean needs to show he is as obsessed as we are.]

Bev Harris robbed CA (where I live) of its right to sue Diebold ever again.

[Bev Harris also robbed thousands of DUmmies of what little money they have.]

Bev Harris doesn't own the topic of election fraud. She has only used it to enrich herself.

[Thanx to the many, many DUmmie suckers. Oh, and also thanx to Randi Rhodes. Let's give her some credit as well for enabling the Bev BBV scam.]

I just read at Kos that the next step in the 50 state strategy is building at the precinct level. I did not realize that.

"The DNC's next stage of the 50 State strategy, the precinct organizing piece, will be huge. They are committed to building up the local parties, not just providing the new organizing staff paid for by the DNC, but offering training to state party staff, to turn around and offer training to local parties too. Dean visiting all the states to help state parties fundraise is also much appreciated. Stay turned to find out how it will be rolled out thru the states and how you can sign up."

[The DNC's next stage is to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.]

I felt like I was watching a bad episode of the twilight zone in where one wakes up and finds themselves in another state of existance..

[It's a place beyond the dimensions of time and space. Look out for that signpost up ahead! You are now entering...the DUmmie Zone.]

This is such a sad thread. You don't even know Dean's goal...
Why do you think he is asking us to build the party on small donations? So he can wean it off corporate money.




[Or maybe he knows that cheap donations are all he can get.]

I spoke about election fraud with Dean in the Albany, NY airport 2 or 3 years ago as we walked through the airport (we were on the same plane). That is, I talked. He listened. I guess he's still listening. Time to start TALKING, Dr. Dean!


[Be thankful you got that much time. When nutcases try to talk to me at the airport, I only give them about 2 seconds of my time before walking on.]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-02-05 ("the truth about 9/11 is the ultimate time bomb . . .")

Have you ever noticed how the DUmmies NEVER express the least bit of outrage against the terrorists? In the world of DUmmieland the Bush administration (or "regime" in their lexicon) is so EVIL that it overrides any outrages that the terrorists have committed. Well, here is the latest (or at least the latest publicly admitted). The terrorists were innocent of taking down the World Trade Twin Towers on 9-11. The real culprit in their view is located in Washington, D.C. as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD titled, "the truth about 9/11 is the ultimate time bomb . . ." So join me in diving into the depths of DUmmie paranoia expressed so touchingly in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, holding leather mouth strap at the ready, is in the [brackets]:

the truth about 9/11 is the ultimate time bomb . . . waiting to explode . . . despite compelling evidence to the contrary, most Americans want to believe the "official" story of what happened . . . more than that, they NEED to believe it . . . because to not believe it lays open the issue of their own government either passively or actively facilitating the attacks . . . and for most Americans, that's the ultimate in cognitive dissonance -- something they just can't wrap their minds around, and will resist doing as long as humanly possible . . .

[The truth about your mental health is the ultimate time bomb...]

but in the end, truth will out . . .

[The truth will out...you are definitely a LUNATIC.]

the evidence is there, plain as day . . . and when the masses finally start questioning, and finally start doing some investigating, they'll quickly find out that the official story is bs, and that on 9/11/01 something was thoroughly rotten in DC . . . and that's when all hell will break loose . . .

[You could have saved yourself time by merely typing "MIHOP" like several score fellow DUmmies. Now on to the remarks of your fellow loons...]

9/11 has become like "Area 51" It starts with whispered exchanges, gets denounced as "conspiracy lunacy," then finally starts hitting the mainstream. If you showed Americans evidence of aliens on earth tomorrow they'd say "oh yeah, I kinda figured that."

[And what planet are YOU from?]

The truth must come out and we cannot wait 40 years like with the Kennedy assassination. In 40 years the players will be dead and no one will care enough to take real action. I have been organizing on this issue for a year, but we only make small steps progressing toward the MSM publishing the truth as we activists have discovered it.

[You are hot on the trail! Lee Harvey Oswald flew those planes.]

DU sure likes to bury these stories, by moving ANYTHING with a hint of 911 in it out of general discussion. And I noticed you can't recommend it for the greatest page either! What the f*ck is up with all that? This is EXACTLY the reason I chose not to donate to DU. They are DLC run, let the DLC fund DU.

[Perhaps Skinner is a LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]

it's so much easier staying in our "child" role -- i've been reading too much Transactional Analysis tonite -- but it's very apropos. as long as "the state" takes the role of "parent" instead of "adult," the citizens will stay in the role of "child." we'll collude and do everything we can to maintain the predictability of roles. as soon as we step out and become "adult" and empower ourselves to expect real answers to the many intelligent questions our there -- the "parent" role of the state et al will collapse. there will be a big mass of ADULTS not playing the game. at that point there can only be 2 outcomes -- total parent control or adults take back the country. it will eventually be the latter. this is too big. too impossible to pull off forever.

[If they can ever manage to unscramble your brain, could you translate your incoherent ranting into something even slightly understandable?]

I post PNAC 101 in GD as a perspective piece to current events and as long as I ask posters to refrain from LIHOP/MIHOP debates, it doesn't get moved. In case you don't already know, PNAC 101 is a timeline of events that circumstantially points to WH/Pentagon complicity in 911.

[According to PNAC 101, evil neocons flew those planes.]

I thought so on the evening of 9/11/01. "Could they -- WOULD they -- actually do this??? Are they THAT evil?"


By 9/12/01, I was reasonably sure that they had done it.

[By 9/13/01 you were spending quality time in the Rubber Room.]

So, what IS the "truth about 9/11" in your opinion...
...is it LIHOP, or MIHOP?

[IHOP.]

Thankfully, we get Phase Two of the Senate Intelligence Committee Report soon, and Jay Rockefeller is “in the know” regarding the PNAC‘s complicity in 911.

[Why don't you get Jay Rockefeller to publicly state what he "knows" about PNAC? I would love to see the Democrats lose the WV Senate seat.]

Common sense tells you building 7 did not collapse accidentally

[Common sense tells me that your mental health did not collapse accidentally. An OD must have been involved.]

The pentagon lawn in pristine perfection.. and so little damage considering a plane was to have burst into flames and all. The whole thing STINKS.

[Time to watch another rerun of "Capricorn One."]

The American people are beginning to allow themselves to know
that the BFEE lied about the Iraq war, social security, the Plame outing, torturing prisoners and secret renditions, and on and on, BUT they are still a long way from allowing themselves to believe the administration would lie about 9-11...it all hinges on 9-11.

[We bombed on the Downing Street Memo, the September Washington March, Plamegate, etc... Please God! At least give us 9-11.]

If you were complicit in letting 9/11 happen, 3000 innocent Americans died because you failed to heed the warning...what would you do to avoid justice? That person is still commander-in-chief and he still has the power to get nuclear war underway.

[Let your finger do the walking...on the nucular button...]

DUmmie FUnnies 12-01-05 (DUmmies Demonize MAVERICK Joe Lieberman)

Have you ever noticed that whenever a "moderate" Republican disagrees with conservative positions, he/she is hailed by the media as being a "maverick?" However, whenever a Democrat offers a contrary view to the prevailing liberal line you will NEVER hear of the media applying the "maverick" label to this person. Usually such apostates are treated as kooks such as the case with Zell Miller or are just flat out ignored as what happened this week with Joe Lieberman. If a Republican senator had expressed opposition to the Bush Iraq policy, that senator would have been HAILED in the media and would be invited to appear on all sorts of interview shows. In Lieberman's case, he is being treated as a non-person by the media. Although ignored by the mainstream media, the DUmmies are looking upon Lieberman as a treacherous Emmanuel Goldstein. Yes, they are lined up in front of their computer screens screaming HATE in the direction of Lieberman as you can see in this THREAD titled, "'We Do Have a Plan' (Iraq - Lieberman)" as well as this THREAD titled, "Lieberman in Iraq - American forces will remain until mission complete." So let us now watch the DUmmies begin the Hate Week proceedings in Bolshevik Red while screaming at the screen image of Lieberman while the commentary of your humble correspondent, picturing Pied Piper Pitt as Inner Party Member O'Brien, is in the [brackets]:

Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, just back from Iraq, wants President Bush to give the American people details about the progress being made in that country - from military triumphs to the proliferation of cellphones and satellite dishes. But Lieberman, D-Conn., who spent Wednesday and Thursday in Iraq, saw strong evidence that a workable American plan is in place. "We do have a strategy," he said. "We do have a plan. I saw a strategy that's being implemented."

[According to that Hartford Courant article, Lieberman is NOT in lockstep with the liberal Democrats. He MUST be tombstoned from the Senate!!!]

The plan is to kill off enough militants and dissidants so that the US armed and trained neo-colonial regime can more or less control the country. Although I'm sure in Lieberman's fevered brain this somehow means peace and stability.

[Shame on Lieberman for not defining the terrorists as "dissidents."]

Hey Lieberman, go F* yourself!
change party already. Whining stinking bastard!

[You are hereby appointed as the Group Think Leader of the Hate Week Festivities.]

How do we go about kicking him out of the party?

[All who do not engage in GroupThink MUST be PURGED!]

he is really getting Dems in CT upset with his BushCo apologist rhetoric and a lot of us want him GONE

[Lieberman's failure to completely follow the Party Line is making you soil your diapers.]

How can he allow himself to be nothing but a tool for the Bush war machine?

[Rovian Mind Control?]

I always wondered what the pukes found while cleaning up the anthrax. what a great way to get access to all those offices and computers. By the way have we caught the anthrax mailer yet. No reason, he did his job well for the rePukes.

[I wonder if Karl Rove filed a 1099 form for the anthrax mailer's services?]

This is all about Israel wanting a huge U.S. military
presence in the ME, and nothing more for Liebershitz. I can't blame Israel for wanting a big bully presence at their back door, so draft-dodger Liebershitz should just be honest about his intentions for BSing us about Iraq.

[You should be more subtle about your hate by calling Lieberman a "neocon."]

Anyone else see the need to purge
the democratic party of undemocratic people? Sheesh, what's the use. I just need to move to a country with a somewhat honest government and an impartial informative press.

[You'll love the party purge policy of the People's Republic of North Korea.]

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS MAN?????????? He is blatantly propagandizing for this administration--and I want to know why. He came back from Dante's Inferno--and put a flowery glow on it. He lied. I want to know why.

[I repeat: Rovian Mind Control.]

No one I know, left or right, cares in the slightest what he has to say.

[Sorry to inform you but even though the Left is shunning Lieberman, the Right is enjoying the spectacle of him sticking his finger in the Liberal eye.]

Joementum is a tool for the RNC and right wing radio and sites such as free republic - no more, no less.

[And the DUmmie FUnnies! Don't forget the DUmmie FUnnies.]

What was Gore thinking when he went with him as VP?

[What was Gore thinking when he stuck his tongue down Tipper's throat on a convention stage?]

Lieberman is the root of all evil, imho. If Gore hadn't chosen such an asshat as his V. P., then the election wouldn't have been close enough to steal. Good God, he's an idiot....

[Yeah. Lieberman FORCED Gore to act like a shmuck at the 2000 debates after painting Gore's face orange.]

Worst. VP Choice. Ever.

[How about Jack Kemp?]

Joe, shut the f*ck up already, we are all tired of your wanna-be repube... bullshit. that man is a failure and a disgrace to the Democratic party.

[A disgrace to the Democrat party? Sounds like an endorsement for Joe to me.]

Not a popular truth but AIPAC just shovels
the money at their whores in both parties.

[Psst! The proper term is "neocons."]

He's just Zell Miller without the spittle and the bulging forehead veins.

[But Zell has better hair.]

Joe is an infiltrate and Uncle Tom for the Republicans. Notice how they trot him out in those most desperate of times to do his best performance of a Democrat. Im sure the 'establishment' shoved spoiler Lieberman on the 2000 ticket.
Joe Lieberman is a murderer and a war profiteer. The blood is now on his hands as well.

[Fortunately, spoiler Kerry was shoved onto the 2004 ticket.]

Out of all the people that get sliced & diced here at the DU, Holy Joe gets it the worst. The threads are a mile long, and they are funny. I've never laughed as much as when I've read them.

[Me too. Drooling DUmmie hate-filled spittle is always good for laughs.]

Look how Zarcowi (sic)apologized for hurting jordanians at a wedding.

[Even "Zarcowi" is more beloved in DUmmieland than Lieberman.]

The mission for Joe is the protection of Israel. Will it ever be completed. Israel will not behave towards it's neighbors thus the only solution seems to be the destruction of it's neighbors which Israel's leaders have called for since it's 20th century inception. Look at the quotes made by all of the Israeli leaders since it was created by Britain....they have threatened the death of their neighbors for decades...how will the mission EVER be completed?

[Psst! Say "neocons." Much more polite.]

Dear Joe, please go to Iraq and personally oversee the mission...because you are f*cking useless as a Democratic Senator over here and the cost to our party of your constant right-wing enabling is simply catostrophic...

[Simply "catostrophic" for Liberal GroupThink.]