DUmmies Discombobulated by Jonathan Gruber Video
Even the DUmmies are quite discombobulated by the shocking Jonathan Gruber VIDEO in which he boasts about how the public had to be deceived about Obamacare for it to pass and that the voters were basically stupid. The video was first posted on YouTube on Friday and NewsBusters was the FIRST major website to FEATURE it the following day. It has gone viral on the web but almost predictably ignored by most of the MSM. As to the Web, it is circulating sequite widely but some sites such as KOmmieland still refuses to discuss it. However, the DUmmies have looked at the Gruber video in two threads, Obamacare Architect Jon Gruber Says DECEIVING AMERICANS Necessary to Pass Bill and Obamacare Architect: ‘Lack of Transparency’ Helped Us Pass the Law. As you will see, the Gruber video has opened the floodgates of DUmmie animosity toward ObamaCare. What many now forget is that ORIGINALLY back in 2009 and early 2010 the DUmmies HATED the Senate version of the ObamaCare bill. However, when that version was forced into adoption due to the election of Scott Brown the DUmmies soon changed their tune into one of grudging acceptance. Publicly the pretended to be enthusiastic about ObamaCare but that was only because Conservatives continued to oppose it. However, now with the Gruber revelations, the DUmmies have relapsed back to their original animosity to ObamaCare. So let us now watch the DUmmies blast Gruber and ObamaCare in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, wondering if I mentioned that NewsBusters was the FIRST major website to feature the Gruber video, is in the [brackets]:
Obamacare Architect Jon Gruber Says DECEIVING AMERICANS Necessary to Pass Bill
[Gruber now claims he regrets saying exactly what he thought while being recorded.] Nothing like the American policy elite showing its true colors.
[Newsflash! Conservatives NEVER believe the Obamacare BS.]
This recently-posted video (hat tip Daily Signal) shows Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber matter-of-factly stating that an honestly and simply described Obamacare would not have passed Congress. Preying on “the stupidity of the American voter” was necessary to get the bill passed. Of course, Gruber deems that to be a good thing. And similar well-intentioned policy wonks brought us bank deregulation, which ultimately produced the financial crisis, “free trade,” which is actually managed trade designed around the interests of American multinationals, and our Middle Eastern adventurism, among other things.
Gruber is yet another case study in the Upton Sinclair saying, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on his not understanding it.” In Gruber’s case, a “transparent” Obamacare bill would have made the enrichment of Big Pharma and the health insurers more visible. The idea of universal healthcare, which also involves the healthy paying for the sick, is popular all over the world. Most people understand that even if they are healthy now, they can in short order be among those needing big ticket health care if they have a too-close encounter with a rapidly moving vehicle. So Gruber’s excuse ins’t just patronizing, it’s dishonest.
[Those quotes were from the leftwing NakedCapitalism website. Now to the DUmmie Peanut Gallery...]
He's also the one who said federal subsidies were deliberately left out to incentivize states to create their own exchanges. If the USSC strikes down the federal subsidies blame this guy, not the court.
[Attention John Roberts! No need to worry. Even the DUmmies will blame Gruber for the decision.]
Same sort of crap is going on with TPP most transparent my ass
[TPP stands for Trans-Pacific Partnership. I at first thought it might mean Toilet Paper Products and have something to do with the lack of it in SOCIALIST Venezuela.]
Yup. And it worked. Most people still have no idea what ACA is about.
[You have to pass the bill to find out what's in it.]
Progressives, what are we to make of this? What do you guys think of this admission by Gruber? Does it taint ACA or do we plow on despite this admission. I don't have to tell you, the right-wingers are all over this as "evidence" of ACA's illegitimacy.
[I'm calling LOUSY FREEPER TROLL on that post. Too many "tells" give it away starting with a low post count. I point this out in the spirit of helping out wannabee trolls. A true professional as your humble correspondent has NEVER been caught. BTW, I am not now nor have I ever been DUmmie IndianaGreen.]
When ACA was first introduced, I was amazed that people did not see it for the gift to insurance companies that it was.
[I was amazed that the DUmmies at first angrily opposed it but once it was passed into law pretended to embrace Obamacare only because conservatives opposed it.]
Unfortunately, unelected wiseguys like Gruber are the actual leaders of the party. It's time to repeat this again...The leaders of the party are not the politicians. The leaders of the party are, in practical fact, the unelected people who the politicians look to for advice. The fight for the soul of the party is between those advisors and the base. The only way to get rid of those "genuses" is to make them look dumb. Which requires that client politicians who follow their advice actually lose.
[So will that mean you will vote against ALL the Democrats who supported ObamaCare in the next election?]
Surely this gruber punk can be tried for fraud. At least in the US that once existed before it became ok to tell lies to congress.
[To be consistent, wouldn't Obama also have to be tried for fraud? I quote WILLIAM RIVERS PITT: "F*** you, Mr. President, you piece of sh*t used-car salesman."]
The only reason that DU was applauding this piece of crap is because "Obama". Had a Repub tried to introduce the same exact law DU would have been vilifying it all over the place.
[DUmmie TorchTheWitch WINS a Kewpie Doll for having a brief moment of mental clarity!]
I despise people like this, but they are running our party. Now, how do we get rid of them?
[By voting conservative Republican but for you that would be an unthinkable option. ]
his is a huge, possible game changer for me. If we can't propose and sell good progressive legislation on its merits without succumbing to deception and contempt of the people, then I just don't know what. I am as dispirited now than I can remember ever being, more so than in 2000, 2004 or 2010. I am NOT, decidedly NOT, have NEVER been a subscriber to the philosophy that "the ends justify the means." I hate them all, because it's clear that they hate me and people like me. Face it, we're not citizens anymore, we're subjects.
[More accurately, you're DUmmies. Now on to the other DUmmie thread.....]
Obamacare Architect: ‘Lack of Transparency’ Helped Us Pass the Law
[BTW, what is Jonathan Gruber's DUmmie screen name?]
Searching for Gruber's name in DU, I found plenty of big threads about him. Do you consider these statements problematic?
[Problematic for ALL those Democrats who voted for ObamaCare]
They statements in the video are certainly not helpful and are a little embarrassing.
["Little?" Nice understatement.]
2000 page bill, poorly written, and deliberate lack of transparency by the government we pay for. Yeah, stupid voters.
[Stupid DUmmies but that's redundant.]
He didn't lie.
[Correct. Gruber told the truth about deceiving the public so that ObamaCare could pass.]
People shouldn't get all hung up over little white lies. The important thing is that if you like your plan you can keep it. And that your healthcare costs will go down by $2500.
[Ah, DUmmie sarcasm at work. But is that a REAL DUmmie?]
I'm sure some people benefited from ACA. I don't begrudge them. I'm happy they got the insurance they need. I just don't know any of those people. Every one I know will be penalized on their taxes and still have to depend on the county hospital. Which by the way, raised my tax bill this year. I have to pick one day a week to fast as it is. Hey, maybe that keeps me healthy. Yay.
[Soon you will have to pick one day a week to eat.]
If the Democrats do it, it's a good thing. But if Republicans do it, it's a bad thing. No wonder punk pieces of filth like this gruber character treat people like 4 year olds.
[I thought he treated people like DUmmies.]
Yet complain about Obamacare here and you get pilloried.
[WILLIAM RIVERS PITT is still licking his wounds.]