DUmmie FUnnies 02-02-05 (DUmmies Defend 9-11 Nutty Professor)
The DUmmies like to portray themselves as “progressive Democrats.” That is their public mask. To see just how FAR GONE they REALLY are, one needs only to read this edition of the DUFUs in which the DUmmies actually defend the University of Colorado professor who compared the 9-11 victims to “little Eichmans” as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD titled, “Controversial CU prof resigns as department chair (over 9-11 essay).” This thread starts out with an article excerpt about the Nutty Professor followed by the equally NUTTY DUmmies defending him. The Nutty DUmmie comments are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent is in the [brackets]:
University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill, under fire for comparing victims of the Sept. 11 World Trade Center attack to Nazis, resigned today as chairman of CU's ethnic studies department but will continue on as a teacher…
"I have never characterized all the Sept. 11 victims as Nazis. What I said was that the 'technocrats of empire' working in the World Trade Center were the equivalent of 'little Eichmanns.' Thus it was obviously not directed to the children, janitors, food service workers, firemen and random passers-by killed in the 9-1-1 attack," Churchill said.
Churchill said he isn't a "defender" of the Sept. 11 attacks, but meant to point out that if U.S. foreign policy results in massive death and destruction abroad, "we cannot feign innocence when some of the destruction is returned."
In Churchill's essay, he said the Pentagon was a military target, "pure and simple."
"As to those in the World Trade Center ... Well, really. Let's get a grip here, shall we? True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break. They formed a technocratic corps at the very heart of America's global financial empire - the 'mighty engine of profit' to which the military dimension of U.S. policy has always been enslaved."
[Talk about an absolutely indefensible position! However, FEAR NOT, the DUmmies WILL defend the Nutty Professor as you can see in the following responses.]
Sad pathetic man gives RWer's tons of material. Wish you could have retroactively stepped down and never published this insipid nonsense…Thanks for marginalizing all on the Left who disagree with Bush's policies.
[So the Nutty Professor’s real sin wasn’t what he said but the fact that he gave ammunition to the “righwingers.”]
I think this prof put it a little clumsilly but to say the wealthy investment bankers/stock traders etc working in the WTC were CLEARLY benefitting from the foreign policies actions (bombing/torturing/theiving etc) of the US, he's not wrong, I wouldn't have gone there but the point is actually valid. You can't just expect that ONLY the rulers of a nation be accountable for the actions of that country - EVERYONE in it has some culpability, how many Americans were protesting their taxes helping to pay for military hardware that kills innocent childern in Palestine? How many people stopped buying gas? how many people gave a shit about Abu Ghraib? Cetainly the Pentagon was a FAR FAR more legit target than pretty much ANYTHING the US bombed in Iraq.
[So you completely agree with the Nutty Professor except you think he expressed himself “clumsilly.” Thanx for expressing your absolute hatred of America in a less “clumsilly” manner.]
What people don't want to look at is the totality....of violence,ecological devastation,torture etc. that are the predominant features of the misnamed America. Churchill is right and if he states it point blank it makes the knees quiver of those who hang on to vestiges of this fuzzy psycopathic American Fairy Tale.
[Thus spaketh a fussy psycopathic DUmmie mind.]
Bin Laden may be from a very priviledged background - but do you think all his supporters are? do you think he'd HAVE that many supporters were it not for issues like the US presencce in and support for a repressive monarchy in Saudi, the occupation of Palestine etc etc.
[The DUmmie branch of Al Qaeda has spoken.]
Your agreement of Ward's despot-like "collective guilt" of the Americans is far more in common with Nazi exterminators and the frontier soldiers who looked at Jews and Native Americans as a group that was collectively guilty. He displays the same attitude regardig the American people who dared go to work on Tuesday, 9/11/2001 to get a paycheck-blame of the victim.
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
Not many people are going to support ward churchill but that doesn't mean he isn't right. read his stuff then source his material-he's right. his research is meticulous. many on the left also remain in wilfull denial of the numerous american holocausts and how fluid and constant these processes are. we're on the same side brother peace to you and for the children of Iraq.
[DUmmie supporting the Nutty Professor as the “underdog.”]
He's right about most everything and if he comes across as caustic too bad. The lily-livered left needs a cold slap in the face to awaken to what's grabbing their throat and cooking their children. Stop living the lie that is America.
[And the rest of us need a cold slap in the face as to the REAL views of the DUmmies. Thanx for providing it.]
Anyone who defends him anywhere is simply beyond the pale of decency, as is he.
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
I think that when making a point that may be true but incredibly unpopular, one would do themself a favor to tone it down a bit, but I think his basic point is completely correct.
- The Pentagon WAS an appropriate military target.
- America is definitely responsible for quite a bit of suffering in the world, so we can't cry foul when someone strikes back.
[-DUmmie livinginphotographs IS an appropriate target for our scorn for posting this idiocy.]
in the americans calculus 9-11 takes on a meaning distorted exponentially. nothing changed after 9-11-the West continues it's assault on the rest of the brown-skinned world to steal their goods. same old song.
[DUmmie Poe weighing in with his 9-11 non-thoughts.]
WTC was a legitimate war target. Hit the economic engine and the military engine. Realistically, you can't defeat an enemy if you haven't accurately defined the enemy and the enemy's strategies. As long as we act as if terrorists are just hitting targets randomly, we waste defense money. So even putting aside the truth of backlash due to corporatism, the professor is right to put the attacks into proper perspective. I'd rather that then this continued flopping around like fish defending some bizarre notion that they hate us because we're free to drive to the beach or some such stupidity.
[DUmmie sandnsea, a graduate of the Che Guevara Day Care Center, foams at the mouth with this “insight.”]
I'm not saying those people deserved to die. Most people go to work and don't think about the consequences of the work they do. It's a paycheck, a means to an end. But the people who hijacked those planes live in places that are on the opposite end of our nation's prosperity--or at least see their own chances for prosperity diminish with every Western company that extracts sweat and natural resources from their country. Desperate people do desperate things. As a whole, Americans like to think we live good lives if we don't go home and slap our spouse around. And that's true. But we ignore the consequences of our actions, our employment, in the larger world and then are surprised when that comes back to us. Churchill is saying that we need to wake up to the way in which we act in the world, not just in our own day-to-day circles. 9-11 was a tragedy, to be sure, but on reflection, it should have been expected and we should own up to our complicity in it.
[DUmmie intheflow declaring the 9-11 victims to be collateral damage caused by American corporate greed.]
In pure military target terms. Disrupting a country's economy is a military strategy. That's why the WTC is a legitimate military target.
[Another mouth foamer from Dummie sandnsea.]
I wonder how this professor would feel if one of his family members or friends was in one of those buildings.
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]