A FUnnie look at the loony residents of the Democratic Underground aka DUmmies in particular and the Leftwing Blogosphere in general.
Sunday, June 19, 2016
Brock-Paid Hillary Trolls Gloating Over Bernie Ban Day
Tomorrow is SUPPOSEDLY Bernie Ban Day in DUmmieland. I say "supposedly" because Skinner chickened out at the last moment and delayed Bernie Ban Day last Thursday with the new target day being tomorrow. In any event, the Brock-paid Hillary trolls are already gloating over this shut down of any criticism of Hillary or any other elected Democrat politician. In effect, this bans Bernie supporters since their rights of free speech will be ABOLISHED in DUmmieland. The problem for Skinner is that he will be left with mostly Brock-paid Hillary trolls who are currently posting in DUmmieland strictly for the money. How do I know? Because David Brock himself boasted about paying such trolls to post in social media. At the start of the year, you could almost count the number of AUTHENTIC Hillary supporters in DUmmieland on your fingers. At least 90% of the DUmmies were strongly pro-Bernie. So what happened? My guess is that Skinner whined about the situation to his paymaster and Brock was called into action to checkbook Hillary support into DUmmieland. A few months after almost NO Hillary supporters on that site and suddenly it was SWARMING with Hillary supporters. The only answer is $$$$. There are plenty willing to sit on their butt all day and post for Brock Bucks from their keyboards. Of course, once those paychecks stop, the Hillary trolls will disappear leaving DUmmieland empty which is why delay from Skinner since he CHICKENED OUT from committing website suicide last week. Assuming he follows thru on orders from his Clinton Cash paymaster, Skinner will shut down criticism of Her Thighness tomorrow which has caused this gloat thread from a Brock-Paid Hillary troll, One more day! Ya better get it all in today because tomorrow--bye bye. So let us now watch the Brock-paid Hillary trolls gloat in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting again that Bernie is heading to the Democrat Convention, is in the [brackets]:
One more day! Ya better get it all in today because tomorrow--bye bye.
[Unless Skinner CHICKENS OUT again.]
I am so happy for you! You can alert on every perceived slight and ultimately have DU all to yourselves. Then you can only talk about perfect Hillary. The Hillary with no flaws, the Hillary of your dreams! That will make for an awesome "political discussion" site! Enjoy your gloating!
[Hillary Clinton is the kindest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.]
Pat each other on the back and Hillary lovefest. It will be one big boring Hillary group. I think I will take a vacation as they do not want any constructive criticism or discussion.
[On the upside, Skinner's Clinton Cash payments via his wife, Shelly Moskwa, will continue.]
Bye bye Bernie. History will not be kind.
[I think David Brock should pay that Hillary troll a bonus for that.]
They seriously think they can go it alone without Bernie supporters? Good luck with that!
[Skinner will still have the Brock-paid Hillary trolls...until the checks stop.]
The true BernItDowners? Eh.... not convinced we need them for much of anything.
[You give good gloat.]
One thing is for sure, Bernie has pulled back the veil of who the real progressives on this site are and who are not.
[And exposed just how corrupt Skinner is. All those years when he pretended to sympathize with the far left when all the while he was in Hillary's pocket.]
Bernie is not a progressive. He's an angry old white man from a lily white state with mostly white supporters. Progressives have minority support.
[That was DUmmie rjsquirrel and contrary to ugly rumors that is not my DUmmie troll screen name earning EASY Brock cash by pretending to be a Hillary troll. Got that? I am NOT DUmmie rjsquirrel. PLEASE BELIEVE ME!!!]
So tell us, what did Hillary accomplish as SOS? Hmmm? What, taking dirty money for weapon deals from Saudi Arabia? Condoning our troops to go off in some far away land to kill other people kids? Sorry I'm not supporting that and millions won't. She will lose the GE because she is flawed and this is on her and only her.
[Tick-tock! That's what we, uh, I mean the Hillary trolls often say when approaching a Skinner Bernie Ban deadline that he probably delays.]
This is not "Progressive Underground." This is Democratic Underground.
[Bought and paid for.]
[$8 per hour isn't great pay but you don't have to leave your home and you get bonuses. Oh, and instant PayPal payments which is convenient. Thanx David!]
Well, today is Bernie Ban Day and guess what? At the last moment, Skinner has CHICKENED OUT. Yes, when staring straight into the face of site suicide, Skinner just couldn't pull the trigger. Instead he is "delaying" Bernie Ban Day until June 20...or so he says. Here is Skinner's incredibly lame excuse about why he couldn't kill off DUmmieland today as you can see in his thread, DU's General Election Season postponed until Monday June 20. The Brexit vote will happen in exactly a week but the Berexit (Bernie Exit) on DUmmieland has been delayed because of Skinner's lack of spine although in reality most of the Sandernistas have already left in disgust. Oh, and we shall see the Jackal reaction to Skinner's Berexit delay in this Jackal thread, Sadly, DU will be delaying "General Election" mode for a few days.... So let us now watch Skinner CHICKEN OUT on Berexit in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that almost all of the ex-DUmmies in Jackal Land are now fully aware of their former leader's utter corruption, is in the [brackets]:
DU's General Election Season postponed until Monday June 20
[And will Skinner delay it again on June 20 out of respect for the memory of Bugsy Siegel who was murdered on that day in 1947?]
Well, this is embarrassing.
[Yes, the destruction of DUmmieland to cover your corruption tracks is sure embarrassing.]
As most of you know, last week we began the seven-day transition period from Primary Season to General Election Season and announced that DU's General Election Season would officially begin on Thursday June 16.
[Until you CHICKENED OUT at the last moment.]
From the perspective of the Admins, this transition has been nowhere near as straightfoward as previous ones. For the past six months we have been planning and building out a new system to replace/upgrade/improve the current Jury system. Elad has been working his butt off to get it finished, and over the last seven days we have been testing the new software with the help of MIRT members.
[For the past few months you have been whipping DUmmieland into a GroupThink site suitable to your Clinton Cash paymaster.]
The new software is ready to go, but we have an unexpected problem -- Elad is not going to be fully available this weekend to monitor the site and make sure everything is running smoothly.
[Yeah, he still needs another 24 business hours to drain the swamp of Sandernistas.]
Therefore we have been faced with a choice: either go ahead and put up all the changes tomorrow -- but run the risk that something might go awry over the weekend and make DU unusable for hours at a time -- or wait until Monday when we can be sure that any (inevitable) bugs are identified and fixed quickly.
[Therefore we have been faced with a choice: admit we have been taking Clinton Cash via Shelly Moskwa or forgo those payments and allow limited free speech.]
I know some people like to buy into the fantasy that DU is taking million-dollar handouts from the DNC, but the truth is that this site is now and has always made money solely from member donations and advertising. If we could afford a whole team of programmers, that would be great. But as it is the entire burden of maintaining the database, and programming all of the ideas that EarlG and I come up with, falls to one person: Elad. If he's not available, then we don't have any way to bring the site back if something goes wrong.
[Way to deflect, Skinner. You know full well that most DUmmies are now aware that you have been getting Clinton Cash payments so you deny getting the money from the DNC rather than direct from Hillary.]
This was not an easy decision to make, but we have decided that the safest option is to wait until Monday. I know this will probably come as a disappointment to some of you, but we decided that being forced to wait a few more days before officially ending Primary Season was a better outcome than the possibility that a bug in the new software may shut the site down for the entire weekend.
[Perhaps Elad will put that bug in the software when he finds out how you have been stiffing him on those Clinton Cash payments. Since it totals hundreds of thousands of dollars, I figure Elad is owed at least a hundred thousand, not the chump change you have been paying him.]
Our apologies, and thank you for continuing to support and enjoy Democratic Underground. We'll post another announcement on Monday.
[We look forward to Monday's excuse for delaying Berexit. And now on to a few responses to the excuse.]
good time for Elad to ask for a raise, methinks
[Yup. He is due at least $100,000 of the Clinton Cash that Skinner has been holding out on him.]
Is Brian Pagliano available?
[He actually did score some Clinton Cash unlike Elad who has been stiffed by Skinner.]
I am just looking forward to a more civil DU ....
[Where GroupThink is strictly enforced after the Berexit.]
Elad is a hero in my book. He's the engine behind the clean, elegant and functional design of this cyberspace so many of us have called home for so long. He is worth the wait.
[Then why is he not being paid the YUUUUUUGE Clinton Cash that Skinner is greedily pocketing?]
Elad already works his butt off making this site such an awesome place.
[And yet Elad is being exploited by Skinner is is keeping that Clinton Cash all to himself.]
Where the hell is Elad going?
[To a lawyer to file a claim for his share of Clinton Cash.]
It's all good. Better a slight delay than DUmageddon.
[LOL! Gotta remember that. DUmageddon.]
As a Sanders Supporter, I am Leaving as of Monday. Just saying goodbye. I will miss commenting on this site. I cannot get behind Hillary, too much war blood is already spilled for my taste. Also I like honest, straightforward and transparent elections. I'm taking my ideals elsewhere. It will feel so good to not be insulted anymore.
[Another of the vast majority of the DUmmies splitting for Jackal Land. And on that note, Jackal Land is where we shall now go...]
Sadly, DU will be delaying "General Election" mode for a few days....
until the 20th. Seems their tech guy is unable to be available this weekend to respond to performance issues.
[As we shall see, the Jackals aren't buying this excuse.]
I think he's afraid of the drop in site traffic if too many Bernie supporters leave.
[He is already too late since Berexit has already happened for the most part.]
He has succeeded in exactly one thing: blasting his own feet off. Tuff noogies, Skinner.
[Site suicide is never pretty.]
That's a very convenient excuse. Maybe they are beginning to see the light when it comes to supporting a horrible candidate.
[Berexit will proceed because that is what Clinton Cash is buying.]
after the Berners leave and the Brockolis are no longer paid, what are they going to have left? A bunch of people with nothing to do but enforce speech codes against each other until they're all in perfect, hive-mind conformity?
[A reminder that most of the remaining Hillary trolls are paid by David Brock and once their paychecks stop, they will also be leaving. Hey! Brexit. Brock Exit.]
The Skinner family has received more than a half-million bucks from Clinton campaigns and PACs, and that's just what's documented on the Internet. I'm not sure he really cares about site donations. In fact, given the way that site's been administered the last year or so, it's extremely difficult to imagine that he cares about site donations.
[Don't you think Skinner should be a good progressive and share some of that Clinton Cash with Elad?]
Tomorrow is Bernie Ban Day. This is not what Skinner wanted. He was hoping that Bernie would come together with Hillary and pledge his support for her as all get together, Socialists and Corrupt Crony Capitalists, for a giant kumbaya. Although Skinner was most likely praying fervently yesterday to Goddess Gaia for this outcome, the news has come out that Bernie is TAKING IT TO THE CONVENTION!!! This means Bernie Ban Day tomorrow will drive out most of the Sandernistas who comprise about 90% of the DUmmies, leaving only a few Brock-paid Hillary trolls. Should you doubt the Great Schism is about to take place tomorrow, then I urge you to read this thread posted by a Sandernista exiting DUmmieland's door, How to become a star-member without paying Skinner a single dime! So let us now watch soon to be ex-DUmmie Bubzer bid farewell to Skinner's Scam in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting Skinner is sticking to the suicidal plan dictated by his Paymaster, is in the [brackets]:
How to become a star-member without paying Skinner a single dime!
[No pay to play? Isn't that contrary to the Hillary wing of the Democrat party?]
Leave. Go to another website that isn't going to enforce pay-to-play rules on you.
[Leave. And take 90% of DUmmieland with you.]
Let's be clear about something: Skinner is not, and will never be, who makes this community what it is. Not him nor any other admin. This site continues to exists solely because of the sheer volume of content brought here and created and consumed by it's members.
[You think Skinner cares when he is counting his Clinton Cash?]
Whether you knew it or not, all of you are content creators... and now, you're going to be charged for the "privilege" of having a say in the community YOU established.
[Money Talks, BS Walks.]
Anyone can throw a website together (it costs very little... I have several of my own)... and anyone can arbitrarily determine whatever rules they want in their own personal little fiefdom... and set whatever charges and fees they want... but without YOU, this site is nothing.
[Without you, DUmmieland will be comprised of Brock-paid Hillary trolls starting tomorrow.]
Over the last 15 years, this site was THE Democratic Underground. With the transition to pay-to-play on key community-determining mechanics of the site, it is truly embracing the most corrosive aspects of what is wrong with politics... it is reduced to a fee-based service.
[Pay to Play is the basic philosophy of the Clinton Democrats. Skinner was PAID and is now PLAYing Hillary's game.]
On that note, this will be my last OP on this site. I may respond to replies... though, after today, I'm done with DU.
[Gone by Bernie Ban Day.]
If you're looking to find me, I'll be at http://jackpineradicals.org/content.php
[Ah! The Jackals. And now on to the other soon to be ex-DUmmies...]
I never minded chipping in a few dollars. The servers do cost money. I will be leaving because I cannot, in all good conscience, support Hillary.
[Did you mind chipping in your personal info which was rented out on Shelly Moskwa's email lists?]
You can rent server space very cheaply these days.
[How much to rent server space stored next to Hillary's server in the bathroom?]
You'll have to donate in order to be able to participate in the jury process. Oh, and you'll need to have been here at least a year... but you're good on the time front.
[Brock Bucks will pay for Bernie Ban jury duty.]
I liked DU because of the sane democratic people here discussing important issues. Now
with Clinton and her Third Way/republican/oligarch positions and her supporters here, how can
one had a sane intelligent conversation?
[Um... I don't think DUmmieland ever reached that "sane intelligent conversation" level.]
Not just websites: the Democratic party itself is 100% pay-to-play now. If you can't afford to pay, then you are just a vote to exploit and pander to. Nothing more.
[Pay to Play. That's how the Clinton Foundation raked in all those bucks. ...Well, tomorrow will mark the END of an era thanks to Skinner's insatiable greed for Clinton Cash which has caused him to commit Site Suicide. It will be FUN to watch the self-destruction!]
Today is D Minus 5 and counting until Bernie Ban Day on June 16. So guess who else is doing the SAME countdown? Brock-paid Hillary trolls in DUmmieland who are counting down the days until NO CRITICISM of Her Thighness will be permitted, effectively banning all the Bernie folks. You can see their countdown in this thread, New Hillary Scandal Checks All the Boxes on the Clinton Controversy Bingo Card. Such "heresy" as indicated by the title will no longer be permitted in DUmmieland starting June 16 as you can see in the joyous but ominous countdown following the original post. As for the Bernie folks who have now mostly exited from DUmmieland, you can see they are fully aware of the extent of Skinner's corruption in this Jackal thread, Clinton expenditures point to Mrs. Skinner. Let us first start off with the Brock-paid Hillary trolls in DUmmieland counting down to Bernie Ban Day in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, wondering if Skinner collects a head tax from David Brock for every Hillary troll sent to his domain, is in the [brackets]:
New Hillary Scandal Checks All the Boxes on the Clinton Controversy Bingo Card
[HERESY! And not permitted starting June 16. Skinner has been paid plenty of Clinton Cash to put a stop to this.]
"Hillary Clinton had an undeniably great day on Thursday, but Friday brought a stark reminder that as the presumptive Democratic nominee looks ahead to the general election, there will be plenty of people justifiably looking into her past.
Thanks to a newly released batch of State Department emails, ABC News was able to revisit the story of Rajiv Fernando, a wealthy securities trader who gave heavily to both Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign and the Clinton Foundation—and who just so happened to land himself a plum spot on a sensitive government intelligence advisory panel after Hillary became secretary of state.
[Okay, DUmmie NWCorona continues with a loooong quote from Slate, hardly a "rightwing" site. So here is the first response...]
6 days. Thursday.
[Bernie Ban Day.]
They're going to use every day to keep pounding at the scandal beat.
[A scandal a day is the Clinton way.]
We're in this together... 6 days and counting...
[Chanted the Brock-paid Hillary trolls.]
After that, we'll never know what will hit us.
[Enforced GroupThink is what will hit you.]
5, and counting...
[Your countdown is up to date. D Minus 5 and counting to Bernie Ban Day.]
June 16th...enjoy while you can.
[Threatened the Brock-paid Hillary troll.]
She's a disaster. I cannot support this. We can wait another four years for our first woman prez.
[June 16. POOF! You're gone!]
The Hillarians can posture all they want. The Reich will be using all of this crap, and more. PReventing democrats here from commenting on the corrupt shit won't even slow it down. It wil simply allow some to stick their heads in the sand, pretend it isn't happening, and point and shout 'tin foil hats' over there.
[Look at the picture above. Skinner keeps his Clinton Cash stash hidden in tin foil.]
This kind of stuff is really disturbing and there is so much of it. Her supporters have to know at some level that it isn't all just made up.
[Please! Please! June 16 hurry up and arrive so we no longer have to listen to this heresy!]
This shit stops on the 16th.
[SAY IT, Brock-paid Hillary troll!]
You think you can post attack article but you can't and will soon find out. This is a Democratic website...head over to Jack sprat or whatever it is called.
[It's called "Jackpine Radicals" aka Jackals and they have some verrrrry interesting things to say today about Skinner's wife collecting Clinton Cash as we shall see.]
here's a scary one: emails show approved drone strikes with cell phone:
[You mean that infamous Blackberry connected to a private server and hacked by Guccifer as well as the intelligence agencies of many countries?]
Five days of this shites. Enjoy yourself while you can.
[Oh, this countdown to DUmmieland suicide is quite enjoyable.]
Thursday, June 16th
[Do we celebrate the DUmmieland funeral that day?]
The Clinton's are always in the center of bullshit
Should HRC and her family divest themselves from Clinton Foundation?
pay to play... speaks to leadership. speaks to influence of $$. this all leads into increasing HRC historic unfavorables, if you choose to ignore or dismiss this you're part of the problem, not working to decrease HRC's unfavorables
[June 16. And now over to the Jackals who are fully aware of Skinner's Clinton Cash Corruption...]
Under "Top Vendors/Recipients", #5 is Mrs. Skinner. $33,232 in 2010. No telling how much more since then, which no doubt has increased in an election year.
I apologize if this has been reported here before, but it explains a lot about why a certain site has been the way it has been.
[You just found this out? Welcome to cruel reality.]
I've known about Skinner and his DLC background from the very beginning he opened up. I researched him, found out about it, and just watched. As expected, DU went out of control, and Skinner has no clue on how to stop the bleeding that is going on, and he's already making people "buy" jury access, and literally started his own fiefdom. Well, I'm outta there of that fiefdom, and haven't looked back.
[Although paid a lot of Clinton Cash, Skinner is unable to maintain control over his domain. The Dummies are revolting. They stink on ice.]
Wish I could say yikes but nothing suprises me about someplace so "underground " that is so overtly troll laden .
[Chock full of Brok-paid Hillary trolls.]
This link says 49 payments totaling over $185,000 for '09-'10 election cycle. Since Hillary wasn't officially running for any office then, I'm not sure what Mrs Skinners services were for. Future 'delivery' of DU perhaps?
[Check more recent links because there are many more buckets full of Clinton Cash paid to Skinner funneled via his wife.]
Jesus. That's a lot of money.
[Mere Flash Cash compared to what Mr. & Mrs. Corrupt subsequently received.]
Anyone else think that King Thief Skinner has a place in the Killary Klinton administration should she finish the theft?
[Nice easy easy low work high paid jobs for King Thief & wife. And when they leave their plush jobs they can look forward to even more big bucks as lobbyists.]
She was still SoS then, not running for Pres. I read a couple of mentions that Mrs Skinner is getting neighborhood of $500,000 for this campaign. If we extrapolate the inbetween years, mrs Skinner has received in the ballpark of $1,000,000. That kind of money is to buy something...either silence, or delivery of an online asset and thousands of account info.
[That money is buying June 16.]
Their NYC home was purchased for over $250k.
[Must be a sweetheart deal for that amount in NYC. The Skinners can now turn around and sell it for at least a couple of million. Who set up that sweetheart deal? Someone at a certain headquarters in Brooklyn?]
Today is D Minus 6 and counting to Bernie Ban Day. And today an abbreviated but SIGNIFICANT DUFU editon. Why? Because the Skinner's wife, SHELLY MOSKWA, is IN THE NEWS!!! And of course it involves the Clinton Cash she and her husband have been receiving in order to BETRAY the DUmmies. The news comes from The Intercept and is headlined, Hillary Clinton Used Leadership PAC as “Slush Fund” in 2008-09. Gee! What a surprise...NOT! Is there ever ANY instance of Hillary being around money where she doesn't break the rules in order to skim off an illegal portion? However what is of interest to us is SHELLY MOSKWA's involvement. So let us look at the first few paragraphs of the article and then jump to Skinner's wife: THE BERNIE SANDERS campaign in April accused Hillary Clinton of “looting” her joint fundraising committee to fund her presidential campaign, effectively circumventing rules that cap donations at $5,400 per person. Clinton’s joint committee, called the Hillary Victory Fund, can raise $358,500 per person because it’s supposed to share money with the Democratic National Committee and state parties.
The Sanders campaign pointed to news reports that the fund has been covering expenses for the Clinton campaign instead of spending on down-ballot races. Hillary is a crook. So what else is new, Bernie? But now let us jump down to the SHELLY MOSKWA paragraph: The relaunched Hill PAC spent twice what it gave in contributions to other campaigns on salaries to its own staffers, almost all of whom had worked for Clinton’s campaign or her Senate office. For instance, Clinton campaign treasurer Shelly Moskwa was paid about $11,000 more by Hill PAC in 2009 than the treasurer of Hill PAC itself, Allison Wright. Hill PAC also paid nearly $400,000 in consulting fees to firms founded or closely associated with campaign staffers. The campaign and Hill PAC even shared an Arlington office. The link above near SHELLY MOSKWA's name leads to OpenSecrets.Org where, if you scroll down to her name, reveals she hauled in $33,232 in the period cited. Of course, none of this is ever revealed by Skinner. He prefers that his Clinton Cash Corruption remain a secret. Unfortunately for Skinner, your humble correspondent has reported on his corruption as revealed in many FEC documents to the extent that most DUmmies are already aware of it and many/most of them are in the process of leaving DUmmieland in disgust. The last of them will be gone by Bernie Ban Day on June 16.
It is now exactly one week until Bernie Ban Day in DUmmieland. It is the day that Skinner's greed for Clinton Cash funneled to him via his wife, Shelly Moskwa, has been leading him all these years. Yes, many years of pretending to be "Underground" when in reality he was secretly just a shill for the establishment. Bernie Ban Day will mark the END of DUmmieland as we have known it. Gone will be the Sandernistas leaving Skinner with mostly Brock-paid Hillary shills who will soon be splitting the moment there are no more paychecks for them. Okay, so were you completely bored with yesterday's DUFU EDITION? If you were, CONGRATULATIONS! You are a normal person. I meant for you to be bored to tears because by showing you Skinner's incredibly byzantine set of rules it demonstrates the insanity that has overtaken that site. Of course, the purpose all those rules and regulations is to protect Hillary from criticism and so as to allow the cash flow from her into Skinner's pockets to continue. The Sandernistas are also not fooled by Skinner's rules. They know full well how corrupted he is as we can see in the Jackal THREAD, "Insulting ANY Democratic public figure is no longer allowed at DU." So let us now watch the Jackals laugh at Skinner's insanely detailed rules and regulations in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that the exit from DUmmieland has increased to one Sandernista every three minutes, is in the [brackets]:
Insulting ANY Democratic public figure is no longer allowed at DU
[Money Talks, BS Walks.]
Today Skinner posted the new rules for Democratic Underground and this passage in particular stood out at me...
["Do not ever mention that I am profiting to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars in Clinton Cash funneled to me via my wife, Shelly Moskwa. Our corruption is sacred and must forever remain secret."]
Don't bash Democratic public figures
Do not post disrespectful nicknames, insults, or highly inflammatory attacks against any Democratic public figures. Do not post anything that could be construed as bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for any Democratic general election candidate, and do not compare any Democratic general election candidate unfavorably to their general election opponent(s).
[Okay, that is what Skinner really posted but almost as stupid. Why should ANY Democrat officials be sacrosanct if they are as corrupt as Skinner & wife?]
It should be no surprise that the supporters of the establishment would like this rule as it bans attacks on Democrats who are public figures but does not restrict attacks on grassroots Democrats who are trying to change the party. This is what the new "Underground" looks like, it is an underground bunker for the establishment figures who can do whatever they want while being insulated from any sort of attacks. Sure they say "constructive criticism" is allowed, but anytime anyone engages in criticism they will be subject to a jury that will punish them if they don't consider the criticism to be constructive. If you think DU is overrun by the establishment Democrats now just wait until this rule takes effect on June 16th.
[June 16 aka Bernie Ban Day when the North Korean type rules go into effect.]
It'll be a ghost town in a bit!
[Yup! Subtract the Sandernistas and all you will have left there are Brock-paid Hillary trolls and they will also be gone the moment their paychecks stop.]
Damn! DU's going full DNC stooge now? I thought this wasn't possible but it's looking like it's even trumping DK. (sigh) I'm now so glad I've left that site. Get ready for the flood JPR, 'cause it's coming-especially after 2.0 arrives.
[I believe 2.0 refers to the Jackal site redesign. Yeah they will need it because right now their site is hard to navigate plus they will be overwhelmed by the Great Stampede OUT of DUmmieland.]
That is disgusting. That is insane. That is bunker mentality. Indeed a good fit for the incredibly shrinking Democratic Party coming soon. Fits with what the DNC has been doing.
[Without Bernie the options this year are Green or Smoking Green in the form of the dope smoking Libertarians.]
Why is he always posting 'new rules'? What does he have over there now, a bunch of pre-schoolers? There's an old saying, 'Too many laws are the sign of a Failed State'.
[In Skinner's case, a Failed Mental State.]
The reason is he deceived FDR Dems for years into thinking his site was for Democrats, took their money and their content, since without them no one would have gone near the place. Then he tried to control them, allowed all the right wing trolls to wander around attacking people who were only trying to use the site for what it advertised itself to be.
[Skinner was a Hillary shill all those years but kept quiet about it in order to keep collecting money both from DUmmies and Her Thighness.]
So, he has to keep adding rules because when you run something as deceptive as that, when you try to control people who responded to your false ad, who paid you money, provided free content, they are not going to accept it. Best thing now is for FDR Dems to leave him with his mess. He will have to keep making more rules, and the place is now so nasty and uninteresting, why waste any more precious time there?
[Something is wrong when a forum supposed devoted to an open discussion has to have layers upon layers of byzantine rules in order to prevent those very discussions.]
I agree. I'm also and FDR dem and he took advantage of us.
[All documented online by those many FEC reports showing payments from Hillary campaign to one Shelly Moskwa.]
Well, he's finally shown his true colors - he's a dimestore Goebbels.
[I always thought of him as a retail Quisling.]
Under the "old rules" there was an embarrassing (to him) lack of Clinton support on the site.
[Almost none until David Brock handed out paychecks to trolls to shill for Hillary over there.]
Now that the jury system is only available to donors, it is EXACTLY like the Democratic party now: if you don't have money, your opinion means nothing.
[Greenbacks mean a lot to Skinner.]
I look forward to watching DU sink into oblivion.
[June 16. Bernie Ban Day. Be there. Aloha!]
Honestly, we should soon consider DU solely for the comic value they provide.
[A source of comedy gold mined by the DUmmie FUnnies for a dozen years.]
Yeah. Bernie winning multiple preference polls last summer with numbers like 85-15 and 90-10 could not be allowed to stand.
[And all that time Skinner, greased by Clinton Cash green, was plotting to overturn that preference to favor Hillary.]
All Hail Kim Jong Hill!!
[LOL! Kim Jong Hill. Gotta remember that!]
How democratic of you Skinner you turd maggot punk scumbag candy assed sell out shallow materialistic twit .
[Don't hold back. Tell us what you REALLY think.]
Basically the same rule is in effect for North Korea with their leaders.
[Even the HINT of criticism is not allowed.]
They are like members of a cult who blindly obey a leader and have lost all capacity for critical thinking. If Hillary asked them to physically drink the kool-aid, they'd do it in a heartbeat. They must be in the throes of ecstacy that Skinner is cracking down on dissent like some third world strongman. Now they can wax poetic about Hillary without fear of some mean Bernie supporter ruining their fun. "Isn't she great? A true leader. It's her turn. I'm so proud of her. My hero." Projectile vomit. Wait until November rolls around and they're gobsmacked to find out that millions of others don't share their enthusiasm. That's what happens when you live in an echo chamber. You only hear one perspective that everybody agrees with, and you start to believe your own shit. It will be a thing of beauty to lurk and watch the after the fact whining and cry baby blame deflection by the remaining few DUers.
[Skinner will next demand that all DUmmies will be required to change their underwear every half-hour. Underwear will be worn on the outside so he can check.]
I AM WOMAN! HEAR ME ROAR!!! That was the Presumptive Indictee proclaiming victory last night and declaring that because her Bill done her wrong and she had to endure years of humiliation by ruining the lives of the women he boffed, it was at last HER TURN. Tears must have come to the eyes of Skinner and his Clinton Cash wife, Shelly Moskwa, while watching that claim of nomination despite the actual nomination being weeks and a big indictment away. Yes, at last DUmmieland would all join hands in a show of unity while singing kumbayla and all past differences would be forgetten. Only one problem with this very hopeful scheme. Bernie Sanders. When it came time to speak last night, instead of obediently falling in line behind Hillary he declared he would go ON TO THE CONVENTION to continue his fight. Smart move, because it ruins the plans of Obama to insert Joe Biden into the nominee slot if/when/when/when Hillary is indicted. And because of this, it is causing YUUUUUUUGE problems for Skinner as the countdown proceeds to Bernie Ban Ban Day on June 16. In fact, today Skinner had to reiterate his Bernie Ban Day rules as you can see in his thread, DU General Election Season Begins on June 16: What You Need To Know. I was also going to DUFU a Bernie Sanders Group thread about yet more Sandernistas leaving but I was in for a shock. Most of them have already left and only a few recent threads remain so instead I shall DUFU this Jackal thread, When online forums have a mass exodus, the event is always given a moniker... So let us now watch the DUmmies commit ever more rapid suicide in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that the Jackals really do need a major site redesign to handle the flood of former DUmmies, is in the [brackets]:
DU General Election Season Begins on June 16: What You Need To Know
[I need to know how much you and your wife, Shelly Moskwa, received in total Clinton Cash payments. I know it is in the range of hundreds of thousands of dollars that you never bothered to tell your fellow DUmmies about but I want an exact total. Oh, and please include the DUmmie info mailing list fees you received in rentals.]
Last week I wrote an announcement providing some broad information about General Election season here on Democratic Underground. Now that the primary voting is almost done and it has become clear that Hillary Clinton is the presumptive Democratic nominee for president, we are sticking with our plan to transition to General Election season on Thursday, June 16.
[As the Presumptive Nominee transitions to the Presumptive Indictee you are stubbornly sticking to your plan to commit blog suicide on Bernie Ban Day, June 16.]
This formal transition to General Election season is not a new thing for our website. For every presidential election since this website was founded in 2001, we have expected our members to support the Democratic nominee. It has been written into our Terms of Service for nearly as long as the site has existed, and all of you agreed to it.
But this year's transition is a little different because during the switch-over we will also be instituting some big changes to the way we run the site -- including software changes. We have two main goals with these changes:
[Keep your Clinton Cash payoffs secret and allow free reign to the Brock-paid Hillary trolls.]
DU will have rules again
[Folks, I'm not going to copy and paste the rules. This is something that you really need to SEE to be believed. It is in the gray section of Skinner's post and is more byzantine and legally self analytical than most intensive part of the Talmud. I know many of you hate to take a look at DUmmieland but you really need to see it for yourselves.]
We will expect all DU members to follow these rules when posting, and enforce them when serving on a Jury (Note: All alerts sent on rules in the "Legal/Administrative" section will be handled directly by Admin. Alerts sent on the rule "Don't start threads in the wrong forum or group" will be sent to Hosts).
[Note: The alert of the first part in the Legal/Lobotomy section will be referred to the Administrator of alerts before committing suicide in the thread of the forum of the third part. Oh, was there a second part?]
Serving on Juries should be as straightforward as it was before -- in fact, we've streamlined the process to make it even simpler. You do not need to know all of the technical details below in order to serve on Juries -- they are provided merely for people who are interested in exactly what changes are taking place. Please note that we're tried to make the list below as comprehensive as possible, but it's possible that there may be further changes or additions as we go forward.
[Yeah as streamlined as a maze in a cave. This is another bit you have to SEE to be believed. Okay I will give you just ONE sample of this "streamlining."]
There are still certain triggers that will flag your account for review, and we are adding some new ones to put the brakes on people who repeatedly break our rules. When flagged for review you will not be able to post or use other site functions. (This is a stop-gap measure: We have a number of changes planned in this area that we aren't ready to implement yet; we'll have more to say about this at a later date.)
[Why not just get it over with and simply PIN the DUmmies to a board so they are motionless? Okay, another sample of the "streamlining."]
Previously Jurors had two options: "Hide it" or "Leave it alone." Now Jurors have four options: "It clearly breaks the rule"; "Close call, but it breaks the rule"; "It doesn't quite break the rule"; and "It clearly doesn't break the rule."
[Four options: "Breaks the rule"; "Rule the breaks"; "Not quite rule the breaks"; and "Who's on First?" Okay, one more insanity for the road before we go on to the other DUmmies...]
If you can't bring yourself to enforce a particular rule when serving on a Jury, you can object to that rule and you'll never be asked to serve on a Jury for that rule again. The Admins will keep a tally of objections which will give us useful feedback about the rules.
[I can't bring myself to believe I am actually reading the micro-management sludge. Now to the DUmmies...]
Also, want to thank you for adding in sexism. means a lot to me and I am sure many women here.
[Affirmative Action Byzantine rules.]
And I am happy that trolls will now need to pay if they want certain site privileges.
[So far the only trolls are Brock-paid Hillary trolls.]
How about reading the rules
[To cure insomnia?]
Excellent. A lot of effort and thought went into this.
[About as much effort as put into the wall scribblings at an insane asylum.]
Will there be monitoring for abuse of this? For example, if someone alerts on a post for a rule and gets shot down, then goes through every other rule trying to get a hide. If there is nothing built in to the system, may I suggest that if someone alerts on a post for a specific rule violation and the jury rejects the alert, that particular user should not be allowed to alert on that post again; another user would have to alert.
[For alerts on posts that don't quite meet the party line, how about a Gestapo wagon alarm sound that gets louder and louder?]
I'm also seeing your new rules as being stacked against a certain segment of 'dissenters' that don't properly fall in the Establishment lines, thereby driving even more good, long time, thoughtful DU'ers away. Making this place more echo chambery as a result.
But it is your site and if that is what you want... But thinking like that is why other political sites are popping up, drawing people away from this site.
[Even the slightest deviation from the myriad of byzantine rules MUST be punished! And now a question to Skinner...]
May I ask, why will we not receive a notification after jury service is complete? I like to know how it went. Obviously, it's not that important, but I genuinely do like to know how others voted and whether my views are out of step with the majority.
[To which Skinner answers...]
Because we have come to view it as a catalyst for forum drama. Someone serves on a jury. Makes their choice. Finishes the process. Forgets about it. Fifteen minutes later they get a notification about the jury decision. Then they immediately post it in the thread, and the thread goes off the rails. What the notifications do is interrupt somebody who has already forgotten about jury service, and then hands them a nugget of info that they can post in order to disrupt the site. The admins believe this place needs less forum drama. A lot less.
[Forum drama needs to be avoided at all costs! Rules are needed to maintain a steady humdrum ennui so all be too bored to think about all that Clinton Cash I have been getting for betraying all of you.]
Skinner, if the posting of Jury Results was alert-able violation - we'd quickly learn not to do it. Seeing the results of our Jury Results strengthens the community. I think that removing the privilege will lessen involvement.
[And Skinner's Clinton Cash Corruption and absurd rules pretty much DESTROYS whatever involvement is left.]
So "BernieBros" and "BoB" meets a welcome demise on the 16th.
[Along with the DUmmie DEmise on June 16.]
A lot are leaving and going to be leaving too after the treatment they've gotten here by...supposedly fellow Democrats.
When online forums have a mass exodus, the event is always given a moniker...
[How about The Great Stampede?]
I've been active on a lot of online forums over the last two decades, and it always happens. It will probably take a while but it always comes, people will quickly tire of saying "back in 2016 when everybody left after the primaries". A name will emerge, and for years the old timers will reference and refer to whatever event led to the defection, and even newcomers who were not around at the time will pick it up and use it as well.
I've seen generic labels like "The Purge", "Meltdown 2005", "Modgate", as well as more specific ones that don't make any sense to outsiders like "Inkygate" and "RWRPL".
[The Great Navel Gaze Byzantine Rule Book.]
Any ideas on what name the people who stick around DU will refer to this years defection as? It probably won't be flattering to us, but it definitely won't disparage themselves. I thought "Berniegate" may have some potential, maybe "The JPR Revolt".
[Day of the Jackals!]
I'm liking D words, Debacle, Deluge, that kind of thing. But let's see.
CALL IT SKINNER! CALL IT!!! Such are the cries today, nine days before the official Bernie Ban Day set for June 16. So why the urgent demand from the Brock-paid Hillary trolls? Because last night the Associated Press declared Hillary the "presumptive nominee" despite the fact that the Superdelegates don't vote until after the convention opens in late July. The Hillary celebrations by her Brock-paid trolls reminds me of a football player on the 10 yard line spiking the football and doing a touchdown victory dance yards short of the goal line. Meanwhile the Great Migration, soon to be the Great Stampede, out of DUmmieland has accelerated to one DUmmie leaving for the Jackals every 5 minutes or about 300 per day. Yes, Skinner selling his soul for Clinton Cash is leading to DUmmiedämmerung, the Twilight of the DUmmies. All that DUmmieland will have left after June 16 will be Brock-paid Hillary trolls and they will split once their paychecks from David Brock dries up. First let us watch the Brock-paid Hillary trolls demand that Skinner "CALL IT!!!" followed by disgusted Sandernista reaction to the Presumptive Indictee (check Twitter for hashtag #PresumptiveIndictee). First we will see the Brock-paid Hillary trolls gloating in CALL IT, SKINNER!!!!!! in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, wondering if greedy green would be the most appropriate color for their Brock-purchased gloats, in in the [brackets]:
CALL IT, SKINNER!!!!!!
[Yes, CALL IT, SKINNER!!!!!!! We purchased your loyalty fair and square so start your Bernie Ban 9 days ahead of time.]
Seriously, step up to the bar and call your poison...
[Skinner will feel like swallowing that poison in a few weeks when he sees what a ghost town DUmmieland has become.]
I welcome all to fight for the Democratic nominee.
[Soon to be Democrat indictee.]
Time to unite against tRump. And leave those who cannot accept defeat gracefully to wallow in their self pity.
[While the Brock-paid Hillary trolls wallow in their Clinton Cash.]
Yes, pleeaase call it! Sanders supporters need to move to a new phase.
[Actually they are moving to a new blog, jackpineradicals.org aka Jackals.]
As a Hillary supporter I can wait until after tomorrow
[Is that when Hillary is indicted or is it when your David Brock paycheck for trolling services is deposited?]
We've got an entire week...after all, isn't the Indictment coming down?
[Perhaps. Check #PresumptiveIndictee.]
Just 24 more business hours!
[LOL! Hillary Clinton will be nominated in just 24 more business hours.]
Skinner is many things. Stupid is not among them.
[Really? Then what do you call getting into a situation where online FEC documents easily trace the Clinton Cash payments to him? The applicable word is most definitely STUPID.]
I think Skinner is aware of how many posters and how much money he'll lose when he "calls it".
[I'm estimating 90% of the DUmmies who are not Brock-paid Hillary trolls. And now another Sandernista FAREWELL to DUmmieland in a flood of such exits...]
Official "Goodbye DU" post
[Yet another Sandernista who can't abide Skinner's Clinton Cash Corruption along with the Brock-paid Hillary trolls flooding DUmmieland.]
Official "Goodbye DU" post. I was going to wait till the 15th, but it is clear that the wolves are howling at the door and the DU I knew will be pretty much toast after tomorrow, regardless of the results in CA. Better to just start settling into a new home now (that would be JPR of course).
[Goodby DUmmies, Hello Jackals.]
I wonder if Skinner is prepared for the declining revenue stream happening soon.
[He is hoping the Clinton Cash will tide him over until his wife can get a high-paid, low-work position in a Hillary administration.]
thanks for letting the most abusive stalkers loose on all of us
[Are those Brock-paid abusive stalkers earning $15 per hour minimum wage?]
As far as the money stream, I don't think Skinner needs it. If he did, all he would have to do is get the hundreds of new recently joining Clinton supporters to pay up. Although, I have a hunch they will be gone also.
[You actually expect the Brock-paid Hillary trolls to kick in a few bucks?]
I too will make my exit, without a final word. Knowing that I will see you and many others at JPR is a positive thought. Moving can be difficult but sometimes you find you like your new place over what you left behind.
[After the June 16 Bernie Ban day, DUmmieland will be almost entirely composed of Brock-paid Hillary trolls. And those will soon be gone once their paychecks stop.]
Yeah, I'm just about done with this cesspit.
[If you haven't already done it, don't forget to leave Skinner with your personal info on the way out so he can sell that with his mailing lists.]
I've decided I'm going to go out with a bang. I may do it tomorrow. I won't say how, except it will be worth watching.
[Will you be posting links to FEC documents listing the many Clinton Cash payments to Shelly Moskwa?]
It is D Minus 10 and counting. Yes, just 10 more days until Bernie Ban Day in DUmmieland on June 16. That is the day that Skinner has decreed that no more criticism of Hillary shall be allowed which effectively bans the Sandernistas. The problem for Skinner is that the Sandernistas, who at one time composed at least 90% of DUmmieland, are leaving. Right now it is estimated they are leaving DUmmieland at the rate of one every 7 minutes or just over 200 per day. However, the closer we get to Bernie Ban Day, that rate is expected to increase exponentially with a Great Stampede out on June 16. All that will be left in DUmmieland will be mostly PAID Hillary trolls as described in this Los Angeles Times ARTICLE. And once those Hillary trolls cease receiving their Brock paychecks, they will exit DUmmieland leaving it to be a shell of its former sell. The only comfort Skinner can get will be that he betrayed his fellow DUmmies for substantially more than the 30 pieces of silver that his spiritual ancestor received. A check of FEC documents reveals that Skinner, via his wife Shelly Moskwa, was paid off to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. One victim of the Skinner betrayal is DUmmie TM99, host of the DUmmie Bernie Sanders Group, who yesterday ANNOUNCED he was leaving. So let us now watch the Great Schism in DUmmieland in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that Skinner greed has led to blog suicide, is in the [brackets]:
[It's been nice posting here as long as I believed Skinner was honest but now I must split for obvious reasons.]
It has been a real pleasure and honor serving as a host of this group. As of this afternoon though I am stepping down from this role.
[Sniff! Another victim of the Bernie Ban purchased by Hillary.]
Skinner's continued attempts at amnesty and unity are only making things worse here. Perhaps he knows this and doesn't care? Perhaps he does care? I don't know. I am not a mind reader.
[Or perhaps Skinner is just a flat out IDIOT that didn't realize his wife left a Clinton Cash paper trail pointing directly at his corruption.]
But this I do know. When an OP that calls Sanders supporters insane and in need of psychiatric care is allowed by both hosts and a jury to stand, and my post telling one of those in that thread that agree with this sentiment that they are low information voters is hidden then I know now once and for all nothing is going to change.
[Perhaps a DUmmie Rubber Room Group could be set up for those many insane in need of psychiatric care.]
Nothing magical is going to happen on Tuesday. Nothing magical is going to happen on the 16th either. Sanders and we the people are going to fight this all the way to the convention. The left is too divided this primary season. The establishment Democrats are too scared or unaware or both to know this. We don't have two candidates that are basically the same corporatist neoliberals like we had in 2008 with Clinton and Obama. We have instead two candidates that could not be more opposite in their policies, history, or positions. FDR progressives versus neoliberal New Dems.
[You have one candidate willing to shell out big bucks to buy the loyalty of Skinner. Money Talks, BS Walks.]
What is insane is doing the same thing over and over and over again expecting a different result. The future of the left is with Sanders and his supporters. The youth that support him in such high numbers are our best chance in the immediate future to wrestle back the Democratic Party and the left from the finalized encroachment of conservatism in the form of neoliberal and DINO's. Sanders is an outgrowth of the Occupy Movement. So many thought we were gone. We are not. We have only just begun.
[For some strange reason, I seem to be hearing a Carpenters tune in the background.]
DU used to be a place, whether it intended to be or not, where the progressive underground discussed, debated, and fought against conservatism whether it was in or out of the Democratic Party. With Clinton sycophants here, this is no longer the case. Entitlements are now 'free stuff'. No more new taxes and hooray for insurance mandates are the mantrams now.
[Those Clinton sycophants are only there for the money. Once Brock quits paying them, they will be Gone With The Wind.]
DU was once a place where the majority of the members were against neocon illegal invasions, the surrendering of liberty for security, and the privacy of our citizenry. With the Clinton sycophants here, this is no longer the case. A blustering neocon foreign policy speech about terrorism and the Russian threat while surrounded by more flags than I could count is the new normal here and this is cheered on as somehow 'strong' and 'presidential'.
[Of course the DUmmies have no problems with REAL illegal invasions like across our actual borders.]
DU was once a place where social justice was actually discusses, debated, and fought for. Now identity politics are used by Brock puppets to smear the progressive left as sexist, racist, 'Bernie Bros', while a candidate with an actual history of civil rights activism and support is ratfucked. The same voices calling for a president because she has the right body parts are the same ones that told the gay community to not be all uppity with Obama in 2009. The same white Clinton supporters crowing about the black votes she has try to justify 'bring us to heel' and putting down BLM. These people and this candidate are not our friends. They will give us lip service to wrangle our vote. They will give us false promises to insure our support. And like most Americans, we willingly accept their lies and give them what they want.
[Skinner isn't a Brock puppet because he gets paid directly from Hillary.]
DU was once a place where we did care about the law and transparency of our government. We cared about the shenanigans of Bush Co, their illegal wars, the outing of CIA operatives, etc. Now, we are told we are insane for caring about a SoS who ran a dark homebrew server off the books in her f***ing home. We are told we are praying to the 'indictment fairy' because this behavior was illegal, inappropriate, and unprofessional and if not punished, at least don't allow the person who did this to have MORE f***ing power.
[Hey! Are you calling James Comey a fairy? Be careful because at 6'7" he is probably a lot bigger than you.]
*spoiler alert for House of Cards*I watched the episode of House of Cards today where Francis and Claire were both chosen at the convention to be the presidential and vice presidential candidates. I watched the nastiness behind the scenes and the manufactured consent on the stage. This metaphor is reality in this election primary if you have the balls and will to see it.
[Kind of like how David and Shelly were chosen to receive oodles of Clinton Cash.]
Sanders' revolution is the future. JPR will become the new home of the progressive left. DU and the Clintons are the past.
[JPR meaning jackpineradicals.org or Jackals where the DUmmie Sandernistas are now flocking in the leadup to Bernie Ban Day. And now on to the other DUmmies disgusted with Skinner's corruption...]
I guess it is time to bail out out of here.
[How about if we schedule your exit for this 7 minute allotment?]
I am sick of the bullshit. Even with the hell that is life sometimes and the real political battles that we face, I like to smile and be a peace. That is impossible here any more.
[Said the soon to be Jackal.]
very shortly i am out of here.and i hope all bernie supporters aband DU.leave it to clinton supporters who are enemy of everything progressives stand for..
[Go to the back of the very long line of Bernie refugees exiting DUmmieland.]
I am so proud of him and us for fighting all the way to the convention and beyond. The Democratic Party will change or it will die.
[I like that die part.]
history shows us that if change does not occur and we continue down the road we are, we may unfortunately see an actual violent revolution in our near future.
[Don't forget to nationalize that Clinton Cash Stash in Skinner's bank account.]
This is coming for a lot of us. I won't be sad and I won't say goodbye, I'll see you at home where we belong.
[Verily I say unto thee, today shalt thou be with Bernie in Jackal paradise.]
Sometimes we just need a new home. And we have found one. Hell, we are making one!
[Your new home shall be just over the mountains by the Great Salt Lake.]
Yeah we are making a home. Just so you know, your passionate anger is my joy.
Now go home and get ready, we got more family coming over. Soon.
[Now go and sin some more.]
Heading to the test site as we speak!
[Ironically Dummies flocking to the test site. St. George, Utah?]
I'll be over in the morning
[Shall we gather at the river?]
Hi Autumn, I'm over on our new home also but haven't seen the...
...new test site.
[You'll love it. A tropical island setting at Bikini Atoll.]
We are an amazing group of progressives. We have been maligned, insulted, kicked, bullied, lied about, and frankly abused. No more!
[Home? I have no home. Hunted... despised... living like an animal. The jungle is my home! But I will show the world that I can be its master. I shall perfect my own race of people... a race of atomic supermen that will conquer the world!]
There is nothing "underground" about supporting Hillary Clinton. You can't get more establishment than that.
[All those years when Skinner scammed you into thinking you were part of a cutting edge underground when in reality it was just a hidden agenda setup to support his paymanster, Hillary.]
It's painful to think about leaving, but leave I will in the next few weeks
[Will the last Sandernista leaving DUmmieland please turn off the lights?]
I will be along very shortly. I'm taking my $ me. Not a lot but everything helps.
I'm sure the good ppl at JPR can put it to better use. The thought of corporate boot lickers receiving my hard earned money is distressing
[Almost as distressing as finding out that your personal information is probably being rented out on a mailing list used by Hillary.]
I haven't completely decided whether I'm going to flame out or just stop coming around, but it's getting really tiring dealing with the asstrolls who resemble teabaggers and they've turned it up to 11 ever since Skinner decided democracy isn't really that important.
[Skinner decided democracy was for sale.]
Love you man...see you in paradise!
[I SWEAR I did not see that paradise line when I wrote earlier about being with Bernie in Jackal Paradise!!!]
DU and DailyKos are not long for this new age where decentralized social media like Facebook and Twitter allow instant communication instead of the slowness of forums. And when we want to be on forums, damn it, we want to be someplace where we are respected, feel safe to communicate, and can engage with like minds.
[I might have some explosive material to write up about KOmmieland soon. Ever wonder why KOmmie KOs like Skinner has been hyping Hillary in a big way? Well, follow the money. Hee! Hee!]
The Democratic party and DU are supporting a candidate under criminal investigation by the FBI! I can't even imagine how that insanity has come to pass.
[How? Just look at your fellow Democrat enablers starting with Skinner.]
I think the masks have fallen off. The truth has been revealed.
[The truth has been revealed in a myriad of online FEC reports documenting the Clinton Cash flow to Skinner's wife, Shelly Moskwa.]
I will be joining you at JPR on the 17th. Until then, I intend to stay here and try to counter some of the bullshit.
[The 16th. That is the day the Bernie Ban begins. Until then...D minus 10 and counting.]
The DUmmies have AWAKENED to Skinner's Clinton Cash Corruption. There is NO DENYING the ugly truth since it is documented in a myriad of FEC reports showing that Skinner's wife, Shelly Moskwa, has been pocketing hundreds of thousands of dollars of Clinton Cash. And this isn't even counting the money they have earned from renting out mailing lists. One wonders if Skinner's corruption has extended to the point where he has used personal information provided to him by the DUmmies in compiling those mailing lists. In any event, many of the Sandernistas in DUmmieland have become aware of Skinner's BETRAYAL and have set up a rival website, Jackpine Radicals. Therefore, these former DUmmies who have awakened to the abuses of Skinner shall henceforth be known as Jackals. And as Jackals, they shall all receive a group Kewpie Doll for having more than a moment of mental clarity for finally realizing how Skinner has been betraying them over the years by playing them for suckers by pretending to support their agenda while secretly working on behalf of the Mistress of Wall Street, Hillary Clinton. To see just how aware the Jackals are of Skinner's betrayal, let us look at the first of hopefully many Jackal threads, Skinner jumps shark-calls Bernie supporters "stupid, self-serving partisan jerks". So let us now watch the Jackals rip Skinner apart in bloodly Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, wondering if the conservative version of the Jackpine Radicals should be called Joepyne Radicals, is in the [brackets]:
Way to recruit Democrats, Skinflint, whose wife, Shelly Moskowa is a Hillary Campaign treasurer and earns at least 500,000 for her work.
[Skinner sold out...but only for money.]
I'm delighted to see Skinner lose it like this - indicates Hillary's internal polling shows her tanking worse and worse in California and suffering negative impacts from the myriad of legal developments involving her SOS/Clinton Family Foundation pay to play chicanery, AND that DU posters have really gotten under his skin by pointing out how far up Hillary's ass his nose has been firmly planted. If anyone has proven to be self serving it is the Imperial Skinner.
[His Highness is totally OWNED by Her Thighness.]
Skinner is having a hissyfit...poor, poor Skinner...he does have a very peculiar memory given all the abuse he's visited on so many good people. Tough titty Skinner!!!
[The ultimate abuse could be the use of personal DUmmie information that was rented out in mailing lists.]
You allow Monsanto shills, NRA lobbyists, Bush Crime Family disinformation agents, Wall Street flunkies, and most recently, paid slander trolls from the Brock sewer to operate openly on your board, and then refer to those who still hold actual Democratic values and principles as "(having) lost their freaking minds and their humanity". Seriously dude?? What kind of a paycheck is Mrs. Allen getting from Camp Weathervane anyway? For your children's sake, I hope it's enough, because you damn sure ain't going to be making much money from DU after this purge.
[Will they be forced to sell the Chevy Chase mansion?]
So Did Skinner & wife sell DU Addys in mailing lists? I just googled her name along with hillary & treasurer, and came up with this post from a year ago from Free Republic. I haven't looked at that website in many years, but find this info about Skinner & wife relevant.
[Check that FR post for yourselves because you will see a source with whom your humble correspondent is verrrry familiar. Someone who first laid out the extent of Skinner's corruption in exact dollars and sense as documented in online FEC reports. I would name that source but I am much too (blush) humble.]
Skinner sounds a bit confused about descriptions that have probably already been used to describe himself and in his frustration of losing money and friends he's using the same words to go after us! DOESN'T WORK bud to recruit more to your site bud. Maybe you should get out of that business. Perhaps the Hillary campaign will pay you enough to retire and sell of your site to someone that is more interested in doing a REAL "underground" site to restore its progressive values that once made it a great country almost a century ago from now. But I'm guessing they are holding back on making that offer until after they've found a way to corrupt the country in to putting their "chosen one" in to office to screw the rest of us to benefit themselves.
[Hmmmm... The big question is will Clinton Cash payments continue after the FBI recommends Hillary be indicted?]
Boy, isn't he going to have egg on his face when Clinton ends up not being the nominee.
[Perhaps Skinner could still somehow earn bucks from the Joe Biden Insertion?]
He treats decade+ members who made his site what it is like crap and plays victim because someone's said something about him? Yet he allows bullying, bigotry and, who he must know - are paid trolls to treat others worse than dirt, day after day, as long as they're on the right side.
[Correct. DUmmieland was about 90% pro-Bernie but after David Brock announced they were paying Hillary trolls to post in social media such as DUmmieland, the number of Hillary $upporters mysteriously jumped to about 30%.]
Hard to interview for gainful employment with egg on your face! He and his wife will both be on the job market at once! They'll be competing with a lot of Clinton Family Foundation folks. Once the threat of Hillary being in a position to exact revenge from all the folks on her revenge list, and once her threats become empty, resume entries referring to working for her in any of her various capacities would be like the kiss of death. Well, unless one wanted to hire someone with zero ethics who will do anything for cash. Then the Skinners are top of the list.
[Perhaps they could go to work for the Saudis like the Clintons.]
Just thought of all the Big Wall Street types who will withdraw the millions they invested in Chelsea's husband's hedge fund. LOL!
[Wasn't much of that money already involuntarily withdrawn when hedge fund of Chelsea's hubby stupidly invested in Greek bonds? About as wise and investing in Venezuelan bonds.]
If he's freaking out this badly, the wheels on the Clinton bus must be coming off. He's seeing all those lovely dollar signs and possible positions in the administration pulling away like a black hole sucking in the universe.
[Or like that giant sucking sound caused by NAFTA which Hillary supported.]
Ah, poor Skinner and his lil fee fees. Frack you. YOU are the partisan JERK. You tried to set it up for your wife's employer and your additional income from the Hillitary Industrial Complex. It's was only about money for you and your kind, and now that things don't look so good for Queen SuckyWallStTitty you are getting nervous because you drove away such a large percentage of your audience by being... wait, an asshole! A partisan one. And maybe a much much poorer one now because of your amazing business acumen and your amazing ability to read the writings on the wall.
Who is this guy kidding?
[Only the few remaining DUmmie suckers. The ones who finally saw the light and left and became Jackals.]
When you deceive people for years, ignore people who have helped build your site, showing so much disrespect to longtime members, while the trolls and operatives roam free, it's ironic to see this outburst. He's got his trolls and operatives left, his new system won't be seen by most former members. The Third Way is dying and so is their Noise Machine. And Thanks To Bernie, they are finally all being exposed. Not that many of us ever had much doubt after watching the unfairness of how that site was run.
[I could mention who originally shined the light in terms of facts and figures on Skinner's corruption but humility forbids me from doing so.]
Skinner is clearly being paid by the Hillary Clinton campaign to serve up Democratic Underground to the Third Way.
[Yup! It's all laid out in dollars and cents in FEC documents. Just scroll down to the name of Shelly Moskwa.]
I just changed my email address over to a bogus, throw away one. No way do I want him to make money by selling my real email to the Turd Wayers.
[Shhh! Don't complain so loudly about Skinner selling/renting private DUmmie info for email lists. That could get him in some legal hot water.]
DU was the center of progressive voices online this last decade, even if it never intended to be so given the pedigree and owners financial connections to the New Dems. They will not tolerate that to occur any longer no matter how this election turns out. JPR 2.0 is on the horizon. We need JPR to become the home of progressivism, and we are off to a great start!
[It seems almost inevitable that the Jackals will supplant the DUmmies. I mean just how DUmb do you have to be to tolerate betrayal by the DUmmie Master who sold out for Clinton Cash?]
The people who built his website, who attracted readers and clicks, will be here and on other modern sites, the Third Way is dying and all those who bought into that brutal system, will be left to their own devises, as Whisp said like the site Skinner created for the Hillary people, no one was interested. That is the future of DU. We have moved on, once the real goal of these Third Way sites became clear.
[Skinner designed a Hillary website last year, hillarymojo.com, which died at birth.]
They have a shitload of credit card data too. Not that Skinnerd would Ever do anything untoward with that... I mean, he's a Clintonian, after all.
[Yeeesh! You turned over your credit card info to Skinner? Bad move!]
When he first put up HillaryMojo, I said to him (as one of my many socks) that it won't even rise to rat's piss, and I was proven correct. Tumbleweeds, indeed (I did check a few months after the fanfare, and it was deader than a doornail). I hope Hillary Campaign paid for that joke, and see it written off as a bad idea, among many.
[As long as Skinner was PAID for setting up that website, that is all that matters.]
When the Sanders supporters leave, Skinner will find himself with FAR less revenue in the next few months, and will find ways to get us to come back. Nope, damage's done.
[Come Back, Little Sheepa.]
Every day for the last month or so I see the names of more DU e-friends posting here. There will be a tsunami once JPR 2.0 comes on line in the next 2-3 weeks, as Manny has indicated it will.
Clinton Cash Payee Skinner: Bernie Ban Starts 6/16
Clinton Cash payee Skinner has just issued a directive. Starting on June 16, criticism of Her Thighness will no longer be permitted. This will effectively ban the Bernie supporters in DUmmieland. This will be especially fun if the FBI issues a scathing report of Hillary with a recommendation to indict. Therefore if Guccifer is telling the truth, that means Hillary's email server was hacked thus proving that her selfish desire to keep her email secret from everybody ironically means it was read by this nation's enemies. It is hard to see Skinner preventing criticism of Hillary at DUmmieland after that. A continued ban will mean an exodus of about 90% of the DUmmies. So why is Skinner issuing such a self-destructive ultimatum? $$$$. As we have shown here, Skinner is HIGHLY PAID by the Clinton campaign via his wife, Shelly Moskwa. In March alone they hauled in $14,000 of Clinton Cash. There is no denying that Skinner is completely corrupt and is BETRAYING his fellow DUmmies as anybody out there can see on the following FEC documents and scanning for the name of Shelly Moskwa as you can see HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE. Since many DUmmies are aware of Skinner's corruption, how does he deal with it? Up until today he just ignored it. However, today he tried to slither out of it by JOKING about it: Actually, June 16 is the date handed down to me by my Establishment paymasters. And I can assure you they have deep ties at the FBI as well. Everyone is on board with Operation 616. Ha! Ha! Very FUnnie! And the fact is, proven by FEC documents that you do have an Establishment paymaster in the form of Hillary Clinton. And this is why you must obey orders and clamp down on the Sandernistas way before the convention as we can see in this thread, Skinner: DU switches to general election mode on June 16, 2016. So let us now read about the June 16 DUmmieland Purge in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, noting that Skinner is certainly earning his Clinton Cash Stash, is in the [brackets]:
Skinner: DU switches to general election mode on June 16, 2016
[Establishment Paymaster Bucks speak loudly.]
DU will not be waiting until the convention. Post accordingly....
[And here is Skinner's Bernie Ban directive...inspired by Clinton Cash.]
...we will announce that the primaries are nearing an end, and members will have one more week to "get it out of their systems".
The final Democratic presidential primary is Tuesday, June 14 in Washington DC. People will have one last glorious day of primary season on June 15, and then Democratic Underground general election season begins on Thursday, June 16.
[Now that we see what Clinton Cash buys in terms of loyalty, let us read the DUmmie response...]
For a certain sector, June 16 marks the day they either STFU or GTFO.
[Money talks, BS walks.]
DU will become an echo chamber unparalleled this election cycle. HRC is so feckless of a candidate that she's running even against TRUMP... any other candidate should be so far ahead of TRUMP at this moment it's stunning that HRC isn't able to beat the monstrosity that's TRUMP and GOP party. DU will be a become a joke trying to keep HRC on life support through this election cycle with the depth of her unfavorables that she can't clear or get past, that's on her, nobody else can take the blame for that... and every HRC supporter here knows that... But with the transition from primary to GE fully expect HRC supporters here to push banning and censor to the fullest extent
[Blog suicide due to Skinner's need for Clinton Cash.]
so much for this being a democratic site. I can't wait for the exodus. HEY SKINNER! BE READY TO REFUND THE SUCKERS WHO PAID TO RUN THIS PLACE! The democratic party as it always was dies on June 16.
[Methinks we will get a July 4 fireworks preview on June 16.]
I don't think he needs the money.
[Of course not when you are receiving monthly 5 figure Clinton Cash payments. Check the FEC documents!]
Skinner makes it all go away in 16 days. If it's not allowed on DU, then it's just not happening in real life.
[Skinner will take a June 16 trip to Fantasyland...especially if the FBI recommends Hillary's indictment and the DUmmies are forbidden from even mentioning it.]
I wish Skinner would hurry up and make the FBI and the media stop talking about all that email stuff!
I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the show. The level of denial regarding the severity of the email issue is going to make for some incredibly entertaining breakdowns.
[Break out the pizza and beer!]
he site all the Bernie holdouts are running to doesn't like dissent either.
[This DUmmie must refer to KOmmieland where little Markos is also cheerleading for Hillary. I haven't investigated him but years ago Markos was boasting how easy it is to bribe him when referring to Mark Warner treating the KOmmies to booze and sushi at the Stratosphere in Vegas.]
In an anti-establishment year, the democracts have run the MOST establishment candidate they could find. And in all this time, from 2008 until 2016, no one could come up with a message? No one could come up with an inspiring platform? She couldn't find her "moon" or "Manhattan Project" to inspire people for? She couldn't find a leadership direction to take point on and lead? The message in most people's minds are the following: "it's her turn", "I'm female", and "I'm not Trump"... This will absolutely NOT inspire those elusive "swing voters" who identify as independent to even bother voting! And with the e-mail scandal blowing up in her face, the democrats are going to lose the White House. president obama's legacy will be ruined.
[Thanx for that powerful incentive to vote TRUMP.]
Worse will be if HRC is indicted and cannot maintain "her crown."
In that case then, there will only be HRC cheerleaders left here to praise and promote the sad carcass of a failed campaign. What an horrific, avoidable mess that will be. How can the DNC, and DU for that matter, think that voters will go along under these circumstances... hypothetically speaking, of course?
[How long will that sad carcass continue to pay Skinner?]
Skinner, it ain't over till it's over.
[It ain't over until Skinner's Clinton Cash is over.]
If Bernie people all leave and then HRC collapses under the scrutiny of this investigation, what then?
[DUFU Comedy Gold!!!]
So if there is news about Hillary's email problem after 6/15, we're not allowed to discuss it???
I am a 30,000 year old reincarnated being who materializes once every 5000 years in a Las Vegas hotel suite. My greatest goal in my eternal life is to spend 6 months on a small tropical island with Mary Matalin doing nothing but pitching a DUmmie FUnnies book (with CD-ROM insert) deal with her. If you happen to be Mary Matalin, please contact me at:
firstname.lastname@example.org. If you are anybody else, you can contact me there too. Remember, if you are a book publisher, please feel free to embarrass me with an extravagant book advance.